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otswimJames147: thanks it's upgrading00:07
otswimi need to go bye00:07
kkerwinHi. How do I combine multiple RAR files (.r00, .r01, .r02 ... etc) into a single ISO image?00:33
James147kkerwin: extract the .rar file... it should know what to do with it :)00:33
kkerwinJames147: Using ark?00:34
James147kkerwin: yup00:34
kkerwinJames147: Thanks.00:34
kkerwinJames147: All I have is the .r## files, not the .rar index.00:35
James147kkerwin: then try the .r00 file00:36
kkerwinJames147: Cool.00:36
kkerwinJames147: Ok. That **is** slick.00:37
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silentz0rhello, I have a problem with compositing on Kubuntu 10.1001:20
silentz0rI am using nvidia geforce GT 320M01:21
silentz0rDriver version 260.19.06 (for some reason I see a splash screen that says Nvidia Beta Drivers when i restart my laptop)01:22
silentz0rI cannot enable/disable desktop effects, and when i mouseover the window manipulation buttons they start "flickering" between the actual button and my desktop01:22
sh1ft3dhmmm01:52
Guest77529hi all02:12
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Kubuntu-KDEi have a problem with kubuntu 10.1002:13
Kubuntu-KDEno one can help me?02:14
Kubuntu-KDEsounds good!02:14
moetunesKubuntu-KDE:  you need to say what your problem is02:16
decusgeekHas anyone been able to get Ubuntu One working on 10.10?02:18
moetunesdecusgeek:  I found there was a beta for the ubuntuone kde client available from a ppa if your interested in that - I don't know any other way02:20
decusgeekIf you wouldn't mind. ubuntuone loads from the repository, but can't be configured.02:21
Kubuntu-KDE i`ve installed two languages, when i was in ubuntu, i add notification area widget and press Ctrl+Shift to change my typing language; but in kubuntu, i can`t change my typing language, how ever i change shortcut to Ctrl+L, but again i can`t type with my another language!02:23
Kubuntu-KDEno one can help me in this issue?02:25
moetunesdecusgeek:  http://linux-software-news-tutorials.blogspot.com/2010/08/ubuntu-one-in-kubuntu-1010.html02:25
moetunesKubuntu-KDE:  I only use the one language here - if noone else knows now ask again in a bit :]02:26
decusgeekmoetunes: Looks like a good starting point. Many thanks.02:27
moetunesnp :]02:27
nbndsis kubuntu/KDE snappier on an older laptop than ubuntu, whats your experience? if i would strip down all animations and stuff?02:28
moetunesnbnds:  kde is a bit more hungry for resources then other desktops - maybe look at flubox or lxde02:29
moetunes!lubuntu02:29
ubottulubuntu is a project to create a derivative of Ubuntu using the LXDE desktop environment. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu02:29
nbndsand using fluxbox i can use the same software as i can i kubuntu?02:31
moetunesyep sure02:35
ussher_Im sure i remeber in Konqueror being able to right-click, select properties of an MP3 file and being able to see its ID3 tags.  However its not there anymore.  Do i need a plugin for konqueror to see the ID3 tags now?02:59
ussher_on 10.0402:59
moetunesussher_:  you could try in konsole   apt-cache search konqueror | grep plugin   to see what's available03:02
ussher_moetunes: cheers.  so you think konqueror now does require a plugin to see the id3 tag then.03:03
moetunesussher_:  I would have no idea - I haven't used it for ages03:04
ussher_yeah, me neither.  Im wondering if the functionality got lost going from KDE3 to KDE4.  or maybe i installed a plugin that i cant remmber now.03:05
ussher_Thanks for your help.03:05
ussher_there is a plugin "Music Man" but it was made in 2003 so im going to keep looking around03:05
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sidhuhi, i have a problem with setting resolution each time kubuntu restarts05:56
sidhuwhat should i do?05:56
e_t_What is your video card model?05:59
sidhuit is Intel  82945G/GZ06:02
e_t_OK. There are two options. You can use KRandR, which will reset your resolution after you log in, or you can create an xorg.conf file and specify the resolution there.06:06
sidhuokay let me see what happens. thnka for response e_t_06:07
amibachahello06:22
amibachacan anybody here help me eith smtp06:22
Ubuntu-LinuXhello guys.....i nid your help here....06:29
Ubuntu-LinuXi badly need your help guys especially those ubuntu experts06:29
valorieUbuntu-LinuX: ask your question06:29
Ubuntu-LinuXok06:32
Ubuntu-LinuXcan you teach me the step on how to dual boot ubuntu and xp?06:32
Ubuntu-LinuXi have windows xp on my main hard disk and i want to install ubuntu on the other separate disk06:33
valorieUbuntu-LinuX: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot06:40
valoriehowever, you are more likely to find the help you want in #ubuntu06:41
valoriethis channel is specifically for Kubuntu, which is KDE on ubuntu06:41
matt__haaaaaaaalp06:46
matt__ive followed forum posts on ubuntu and cannot get it to work06:46
matt__im trying to install kubuntu 6.06 on my imac g306:47
valorie6.06?06:48
frogonwheelsmatt__: any reason why you're not using 10.10 ?06:48
valoriecurrent is 10.10!06:48
matt__i figured it wouldnt run on such an old computer06:48
valoriethat's not even supported anymore, is it?06:48
valoriedoes it run from the liveCD?06:49
valoriethat's the way to check it06:49
frogonwheelsmatt__: run the 10.10 liveCD and see if it works...06:49
matt__http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=40593406:49
matt__okay, ill download one06:50
matt__that thread lead me to where i am06:50
matt__it showed a process of editting the xorg.conf file... it seemed to work for others in the thread06:50
matt__just not for me06:50
valoriematt, there is a version of 10.10 for Macs, I think06:51
matt__http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/ports/releases/10.10/release/  this is the list of ports06:52
valorieMac (PowerPC) and IBM-PPC (POWER5) alternate install CD06:52
valorie    For Apple Macintosh G3, G4, and G5 computers, including iBooks and PowerBooks as well as IBM OpenPower machines.06:52
matt__any idea if i should do desktop or the alternate install06:52
matt__the desktop install also mentions that its for G3, etc06:53
valorieare you trying to save anything on that hard drive?06:53
valorieif not, the liveCD is pretty simple06:53
matt__nope06:53
valorieit's a bigger download06:53
valoriebut there isn't much load on the servers now06:54
valorieit's been out over a week06:54
matt__so if i try the live cd and it does not work (crashes), that means it wont work on my system and i should try an older/different distro?06:55
valorieit probably wouldn't crash06:56
valoriejust wouldn't run06:56
valoriethere is a #kde-mac channel on freenode06:57
matt__the way the computer handles is now is just giving me a blank screen, the i pull up the command prompt and follow the instructions given in the forum thread, all goes to plan until i get to a loading screen that never loads06:57
valoriewhich might be able to guide you better if the liveCD doesn't run06:57
valorie:(06:58
valorie6.06 is older than I've ever run, I think06:58
matt__ill see if they can help, thank you for your time06:59
valoriebest of luck06:59
valoriehttp://desktoplinuxreviews.com/2010/10/13/kubuntu-10-10/ <=== good review07:20
valoriemy apologies, 6.06 still is support07:23
valoriesupported07:23
leighanybody know a supported program to put mp3's onto ipod07:25
bazhangwhich ipod07:25
leighi use gtkpod but it has some difficulties07:25
leighipod nano07:25
bazhangrhythmbox seems not to work, at least here07:26
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leighyeah i also couldnt get rythmbox to work07:26
leighshould one just try to install itunes with wine ??07:26
valorieamarok works for a lot of people, but not everyone07:26
bazhanggtkpod does somewhat work then?07:27
valorieipodguide = How to get your ipod (or other media device) work with amarok 2: http://wp.me/pKriD-907:27
leighyeah it seems to dislke certain mp3s07:27
bazhangvirtual machine with windows07:27
leighasks for mp4va library or something07:27
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Felix[tm]Someone using Kubuntu 10.10 on a Thinkpad x61?07:37
Felix[tm]I have some problems with the desktoeffects07:37
Felix[tm]If I move my mouse to the upper left I get the windowpreviews, but only for a second, then they disappear07:39
Felix[tm]I only see the windowtitles and icons then07:39
Felix[tm]also it doesn't display the window preview if I move my mouse over the taskbar07:40
nayatealso have some problems with interface too07:45
Felix[tm]this all worked like a breeze qith 10.0407:47
Felix[tm]I wonder what's to blame. INTEl drivers oder KDE...07:48
nayatewich icq client is better for kde?07:50
Felix[tm]I use iRSSI ;)07:50
Felix[tm]Hm, how do I configure my Dualhead permamently?07:51
Felix[tm]seems it forgets it after I log off07:51
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Guest82375hello08:02
pucko-Hello. Just upgraded to 10.10, but sound stopped working. Anyone know why?08:21
valoriecan you open up Kmix and see if anything is muted?08:22
volodyaalso, open system settings->multimedia, and see which device is the preferred one.08:24
valorieright, that was going to be my next suggestion08:25
valoriealso to ask exactly what you mean -- no system sounds? no sound in an app? no sound in flash?08:26
valorieetc.08:26
pucko-valorie, oh, that fixed it :-)08:30
valoriewhat did?08:31
valorieKmix?08:31
pucko-sound works now. but kmix only shows one volume control.08:31
pucko-yes, kmix08:31
valoriehmmm08:31
pucko-but it doesn't matter that much right now. just strange.08:31
valorieyou might need to install pavucontrol08:31
valorieand go through all your devices08:32
pucko-no kde tool for that?08:32
valoriewell, if you do it once08:33
valorieyou shouldn't have to do it again08:33
valoriekmix should show everything08:33
pucko-oh ok.08:33
valorieI think for most it does08:33
valoriedidn't for me either, though08:34
valorienow they are all there08:34
valorieI think we are lacking a bit of PA that hasn't been updated and released yet08:34
mvkhow do we get into Ubuntu/Kubuntu development, we would like to add geolocation to the timezone screen for the installation09:27
mvkso we need to modify the 'setup', were do we start?09:27
mvkthis here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization says that its 'The process of customizing or "remastering" Ubuntu installation CDs is not especially complex, but it is a little tedious and finicky.'09:28
mvkbut we need to create a production stable image after modification, NEED HELP09:29
Mamarokmvk: please ask in #kubuntu-devel, and be patient09:30
Mamarokno need to shout09:30
mvkthx, i am patient09:30
valoriethat does look both tedious and finicky!09:32
LoadusCan someone tell me what does it mean when sudo lshw says that my audiocard is UNCLAIMED? My card is currently mutedeadmurderdeathkill when last night everything was fine and dandy ...09:48
valorieloadus, I don't know, but -- have you installed updates recently?09:49
valoriewhat version of Kub. are you running?09:49
LoadusI had a huge battle with pulseaudio couple of days ago, which ended with removing it and using ALSA instead - it worked 100%. I had to do this because of some WINE programs.09:50
LoadusI'm using 10.10 atm09:50
LoadusI think this is a driver/module issue09:50
valoriehmmm09:50
Loadusnot sure though, but ALSA can't find the card anymore - just came back from win7 and the card works ok.09:50
valorie10.10 is designed to work with PA09:51
LoadusI know, but I can't use pulseaudio09:51
valorieyou've tried alsamixer from the cli?09:51
LoadusI loose all the mixer options and audiocontrol09:51
Loadusyes, alsamixer says no cards09:51
valoriewoah09:51
Loadusand this worked last night lol09:51
valoriedid you by any chance change backends?09:52
valorieand does your test phonon button give you sound?09:52
Loadusno, I don't think that anything was installed between restarts09:52
Loadusthe test button gives a nag from ALSA saying that it doesn't work09:52
valorieyou can check in systemsettings09:52
valorieugh09:52
valorieyou might try installing gstreamer rather than xine09:53
Loadusthis would be easier if I understood the driver framework of linux09:53
valorieand see how that works for you09:53
Loadusgstreamer?09:53
Loadusok, I'll try that09:53
valoriethere are two right now: phonon-xine, and phonon-gstreamer09:53
valoriegstreamer was very buggy for awhile, but has recently been cleaned up lots09:54
LoadusI'm more worried about that label UNCLAIMED in the hardware list09:54
valoriethere is work on phonon-vlc also, but it hasn't been released yet09:54
Loadusto me, it says "no driver installed"09:54
valoriecould very well be09:54
valoriesound in linux....09:55
valoriebleah09:55
Loadusif I'm not completely wrong, some module has gone fubar09:55
Loadusaye09:55
volodyawhy exactly is phonon having anything to do with xine, as opposed to poking at alsa directly?09:55
valoriegoogling has always brought me through09:55
LoadusI'd rather be poking my card .. to see if there's some module conflict/error09:56
valorievolodya: everything is in layers and layers these days09:56
Loadusbut I don't know how09:56
volodyaand, in fact, does not phonon talk to pulseaudio now? It would be very strange if there's 'xine' level in between09:57
valorievolodya: there is09:58
valoriehowever, Loadus has uninstalled PA09:59
valoriewhich is yet another wrinkle09:59
valoriephonon uses xine, gst or vlc as a backend09:59
valorieeven mplayer09:59
LoadusI fixed it.10:00
Loadussudo modprobe snd-ice172410:00
valorie\o/10:00
valoriecool, that turned it back on?10:00
Loadussoundcard's relay just clicked and phonon reported that switching to the card10:01
valorieNICE10:01
Loadusmodprobe command turned it back on10:01
* Felix[tm] still tries to figure out what aprtly breaks the desktop effects...10:01
LoadusI just blindly used that, since I know the module name10:01
Loadusdesperate measures10:01
Loadusheh10:01
LoadusI remembered that command from tweaking the firewire port10:02
Loadusstill not sure what it does10:02
Loaduslol10:02
Felix[tm]it loads the driver for your soundcard?10:02
valorietickles the innards10:02
valorie:-)10:02
Felix[tm]add the modules to load it at startup10:03
Felix[tm]somewhere unter /etc/modprobe or so, don't remeber the exact location10:03
LoadusI'd like to know what killed the module in the first place10:03
Felix[tm]0~1~3~no idea...10:04
Loadusyea10:04
Loaduslinux needs a unified sound architecture .. no more layers and new backends10:05
Loadus: /10:05
Felix[tm]yep... another nail in the coffin...10:05
Loaduswell anyhoo, thanks for your time, got to remember that modprobe thingy10:07
valorieisn't PA supposed to be that unified sound arch.?10:07
Felix[tm]like others where suppoosed before...10:07
valorieright10:08
LoadusI had the feeling that pulseaudio is just an alternative for ALSA10:08
valorieunfortunately, there is about a bazillion cards and etc to work with10:08
Felix[tm]yep10:08
Loaduswhen looking at the schematic at wikipedia I get chills .. it's complicationmaximusmayhem10:08
valorieexactly10:09
valorieand all previous attempts have gotten as far as they did10:09
valorieand then exhaustion and perhaps madness for the developers10:09
valoriepoor things!10:09
Felix[tm]awany of you guys uses a INTEL onboard Graphic card?10:10
Felix[tm]I can't figure out where my problem is10:10
Felix[tm]euther Plasma's gone AWOL or the INTEL driver10:10
LoadusI used intel integrated on a previous rendernode I had10:11
Loadusbut that was hmmm .. 9.0410:11
Felix[tm]I had no problems with 9.x and 10.04....10:11
Felix[tm]it's really strange, all effects are there, but on some of them the window previews are  missing10:12
Felix[tm]they work fpr alt+tab10:12
LoadusI've had some window render issues here too10:13
Felix[tm]but not for hovering the mouse over the taskbar (gre rectangles) or moving the mouse tu the upper left corner (peviews appear for a second and disappear)10:13
Loadusespecially with the new kpackagekit thingy10:13
Felix[tm]the windows on the Desktop render fine10:13
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Loaduswell it could be videomemory issue10:14
Felix[tm]had some small issues with firefoy an longa pages where srolling only partially refreshed the Window10:14
Loadusthe card is just not providing the preview information10:14
Felix[tm]but I believe activating vsync fixed it10:14
Felix[tm]Loadus: Hm, any idea how to fix? ;)10:14
Loadusno idea10:15
valoriekpackagekit -- what does that have to do with rendering?10:15
bigbrovaris anyone else having issues with bluedevil on 10.10?10:15
Loadusthe text on the description doesn't render on my installation10:16
bigbrovarI cant get it to pair with my N900 and also sending files to the device fails10:16
bigbrovarI tried to use another device but all it shows is the mac address and not the name of the bluetooth device10:16
bigbrovarfunny thing is it worked fine when I was on lucid.10:17
Felix[tm]seems many things worked fine on Lucid... I can feel your pain...10:17
Felix[tm]didn't try BT yet10:18
bigbrovaris anyone else having this issue? I want to know if to file a bug or whether to  file a bug on the issue10:18
Loadusfile a bug and see what the devs say10:19
bigbrovarLoadus: thanks .. can anyone tell me that tool which assist in filing bugs on UBuntu.. ubuntu-bug?10:24
valorie!bug10:28
ubottuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs - Bugs in/wishes for the IRC bots (not Ubuntu) can be filed at http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots10:28
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akisdoes the 10.10 .iso downloadable file work as liv cd too?11:19
akisdoes the 10.10 .iso downloadable file work as live cd too?11:21
deuI am running MW 1.15. I have added these two lines to my LocalSettings.php:  $wgRCMaxAge = 30 * 24 * 3600;11:26
deu$wgRCLinkLimits = array( 50, 100, 250, 500, 1000, 3000, 6000, 10000 );11:26
deuI have run the maintenance script to re-populate the Recent Changes table. When I request more than 500 changes, I still can only see the most recent 500 changes. What other parameter is limiting how many changes I can see?11:26
FloodBotK1deu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.11:26
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Felix[tm]Loadus: Found a solution for my Desktopefects11:32
Loaduswhat did you do11:33
Felix[tm]Loadus: Under the Style for Aplications11:33
Felix[tm]set to low resolution slow CPU11:33
Felix[tm]don't kno how it's called in the english version, I have a german KDE11:34
Felix[tm]however, my CPU isn't THAT slow....11:34
Felix[tm]but as long as it works...11:34
Felix[tm]after all this is a three year old subnotebook11:34
Loadussounds like it really is because of the shared memory architecture that the intel integrated video uses11:34
Felix[tm]Yeah, maybe I going to gig around if I can increase shared mememory11:35
Loadusit's probably in the BIOS settings11:35
Loadus32, 64, 128MB11:35
Loadusglad you got it working11:36
Felix[tm]I wonder what's the name for the kernel module for the card11:36
Felix[tm]last think bugging me seems to be a real bug11:36
Felix[tm]http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=9043011:36
Felix[tm]seem sit's fixed in svn for 4.611:37
* OzoNe a las buenas11:45
fayazhi, is there any way to get kmail working past the akonadi crash?11:51
Guillem__Oxygen style does not handle correctly styled-panel frames with 0 margin-borders when qgl-widget is inside the frame.11:57
nayateguys, need converter avi to dvd, what can i use?12:10
bazhangnayate, devede12:12
nayatethx a lot12:13
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otswimhi, i've upgraded to 10.10 and now i have a problem on boot: "modprobe: could not load /lib/modules/2.6.35.22-generic/modules.dep no such file or directory" but the system still boots normally after a few seconds12:30
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Kalidarnis gtk-oxygen-engine installed by default on kubuntu?12:34
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Marchitosi have a big problem with kubuntu 10.1012:41
Marchitossometimes ksnapshot start itself12:41
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Kalidarnwhat do you mean starts itself?12:42
Marchitosi open the desktop12:42
Marchitosand puf12:42
Marchitosksnapshi appears12:42
Kalidarnyou  mean when you login?12:42
Marchitosand it start with an infinite loop12:43
Marchitosyes12:43
Kalidarnis it set as a program to start up with KDE?12:43
Marchitosmaybe..12:43
Marchitosbut strange!12:43
Marchitosanother question..12:43
Marchitoswhen my battery is low12:43
Kalidarni can't remember but doesn't kde auto start applications that are open when you shut down?12:43
Marchitosi go checking :)12:43
Marchitospowerdevil tell me: can't switch to profile " "12:43
Marchitosit seems that there is a missing profile..12:44
Marchitosany ideas?12:50
BluesKajHiyas12:53
johnny77I recently installed kubuntu and wondering if there was a way to add or remove programs from the main desktop.13:26
Peace-johnny77: ?13:30
Peace-kpackagekit13:30
Peace-or konsole13:30
Peace-sudo apt-get remove --purge name1 name2 name313:31
johnny77I don't want to remove the program completely, just the icon, or add a launcher for another program.13:31
Peace-mm edit your menu13:32
Peace-right clicl on the kde icon bar13:32
Peace-click13:32
johnny77there is kmail, system settings, and dolphin across the top. Can I add launcher here for other programs.13:32
Peace-menu editor13:32
johnny77I'm in the netbook version if that makes a difference.13:33
Peace-mmm netbook mm13:33
Peace-give me a screenshot13:33
Peace-i have the normal stuff13:33
johnny77sorry, didn't notice the time, have to go.. be back later.13:37
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johnny77On the search and launch screen, at the top there are four icons: rekong, kmail, system settings & dolphin. Is there a way to add other launchers to this area?14:14
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neo_hi guys... some help please...14:39
neo_anyone...14:40
neo_?14:40
BluesKaj!ask | neo_14:40
ubottuneo_: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)14:40
neo_Ok14:40
neo_i just upgraded to Lucid Lynx14:40
neo_and everything is just screwed up14:40
neo_my ATI card is not detected14:41
neo_+14:41
neo_I don't get any sound... :-(14:41
neo_I have an ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4570 and Realtek High Def Sound Card14:42
neo_please help...14:42
neo_anybody who can help me ?14:44
BluesKajneo_:  what have you tried so far to fix the problem14:44
neo_I tried to install the driver again by using Jockey14:44
neo_but it says that The driver is already activated14:45
neo_however, the Catalyst control center throws up an error saying ATI card not found while starting up14:45
neo_About the sound, I'm yet to start on that14:46
BluesKajneo_,  open a terminal and type alsamixer, make sure the ctrls are turned up by using the arrow keys to navigate , and make sure all the boxes at the bottom don't have M for muted14:46
neo_ya...trying that now...14:46
neo_<BluesKaj> I turned everything up14:47
neo_:-D14:48
neo_BluesKaj... thanks it worked like a charm :-D14:49
BluesKajgood :)14:49
neo_some help on ATI card pls ...14:49
neo_Thanks man !14:49
BluesKajwhich ati ?14:49
neo_HD 4570 Mobility Radeon14:49
BluesKajok, what's the problem?14:50
neo_the problem is that when I start Catalyst, it says that ATI card not found14:53
nobarkingHey everyone...14:54
nobarkingWhat do you guys think of Chakra?14:54
neo_BluesKaj I'm pasting the exact message->14:55
neo_There was a problem initializing Catalyst Control Center Linux edition.  It could be caused by the following.14:55
neo_No ATI graphics driver is installed, or the ATI driver is not functioning properly.14:55
neo_Please install the ATI driver appropriate for you ATI hardware, or configure using aticonfig.14:55
FloodBotK1neo_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.14:55
BluesKajneo_,  open a terminal run aticonfig14:56
neo_doing ...14:56
neo_BluesKaj , lots of command help14:56
BluesKajneo_,  ?14:58
BluesKaj!pastebin | neo_14:58
ubottuneo_: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.14:58
neo_It gives me lots of options on how to use the command14:59
neo_http://imagebin.org/11924015:03
neo_help guys...15:04
tester123121hi15:07
ubuntu__Hello! Anybody free for little help?15:10
chuckfubuntu__: what is it that you need a little help with?15:11
ubuntu__I'm on live session now. I installed Kubuntu 10.10 but I get bad performance with official ATI driver15:12
ubuntu__I have integrated Radeon HD320015:13
chuckfI don't use ATI, but can you define 'bad performance'15:13
Peace-ubuntu__: well... ati has made a bad new driver15:13
Peace-a lots of video card has problem with the new kernel15:13
ubuntu__before that, I was on slackware and KDE 4.4, and kde performance was better15:13
Peace-ubuntu__: kernel and driver that is15:14
Peace-ubuntu__: try kubuntu 10.015:14
Peace-ubuntu__: try kubuntu 10.0415:14
Peace-10.10 is still buggy15:14
ubuntu__I'm now on 10.4 live session15:14
ubuntu__will try this15:14
Peace-remember new kernel= new problems15:15
ubuntu__btw, pulse audio on 10.10 works perfect for me15:15
Peace-xD15:15
Peace-ubuntu__: to me no15:15
ubuntu__:)15:15
Peace-pulse is like someting of evil15:15
ubuntu__what card do You have (mine is Live!)15:15
Peace-an intel integrated15:15
Peace-alc861-vd15:15
ubuntu__for the first time all notification sounds worked as it should15:15
Peace-evil cad15:15
Peace-card15:15
ubuntu__OK, I will now install Kubuntu 10.0415:16
devurandomHi!15:16
ubuntu__Is there any repo that I can add (with fresh software)15:16
devurandomHow do I get kde 4.5.2 onto kubuntu 10.04?15:17
devurandomIs there a PPA providing it? kubuntu-ppa/backports doesnt, figured that out already.15:17
nobarkingdevurandom: ppa:kubuntu-ppa15:27
devurandomWithout /backports?15:27
devurandomnobarking: It does not seem to include any 4.5.2 updates for Lucid. Only one kde-l10n-4.4.5 (from 4.4.2) update.15:29
nobarkingThere are no packages planned for Kubuntu 10.04 LTS, we recommend updating to 10.10 if you want to try the newest software, either upgrade to the release candidate or wait for the final release on Sunday.15:30
nobarking--from kubuntu.org15:30
devurandomYes, s.a., I read that already.15:30
nobarkingso i guess you will have to upgrade or search through the PPAs see if someone will package it15:30
devurandomBut I dont want to move away from Lucid, and kde 4.5.1 is buggy...15:30
nobarkingi'm pretty sure someone will15:30
devurandomHm, is there a search for packages in ppas? I already know packages.ubuntu.com, but it probably doesnt cover ppas.15:31
johnny77I have kubuntu installed with Ubuntu and when I logged into Kubuntu, it said I had an error with the menu applet. How do I restore this to the panel?15:32
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nobarkingdevurandom: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas15:32
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Guest81325What is Android ?15:34
devurandomThere seem to be no repositories containing 4.5.2 :(15:38
devurandomGuest81325: A software platform/operating system built on Linux and Java, created by Google.15:40
psynauticanyone have trouble getting kopete to connect to local xmpp servers?15:43
Guest81325devurandom: Thanks!15:43
jamil_1hi, I have kubuntu 10.10. When I try to update from KpackageKit I get a 403 error. I am behind a proxy but I have set the http_proxy variable and the apt proxy. Update process works in the terminal. any suggestions ?15:51
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fantihello! i like to upgrade from lucid to maverick, but sudo do-release-upgrade says "No new release found". what's wrong?16:01
psynauticyou might have your sources set to only lts releases16:04
surunverihi does anyone know this game called incursion? it seems to require 80x50 screen mode or somethnig liek that and the entire window cant be viewed at once. Any ideas how that could be fixed?:D16:04
surunverilike the window doesnt fit on the screen16:06
surunveriso nothing?:D16:17
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psynauticsorry surunveri, no clue16:29
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lieuwehey, i'm looking for a simple to-do program that allows me to track time spent on each task, prefferably automatically exporting to a format like cvs, any ideas?16:45
Peace-lieuwe: date16:48
Peace-xD16:48
lieuwePeace-: :P16:50
lieuweseriously tho, any ideas?16:50
Peace-lieuwe: i guess you should create a little script16:51
Peace-on bash16:51
Peace-i guess16:51
lieuwePeace-: ugh...16:51
Peace-if you tape date16:52
Peace-that give the time16:52
lieuwei16:52
lieuweid do it in python16:52
Peace-do in python16:52
lieuwebut i'd also preffer something that works :P16:52
Peace-if you know that16:52
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mosheboa tarde16:57
dima_hi16:59
dima_can anyone help?16:59
dima_when i connect hte iphone to kubuntu, i can browse the camera, but i cant open or copy files from there, anyone knows what is the poblem?17:00
dima_can anyone help?17:01
dima_when i connect hte iphone to kubuntu, i can browse the camera, but i cant open or copy files from there, anyone knows what is the poblem?17:03
psynautici've never tried, i have an android ;)17:03
dima_when i connect hte iphone to kubuntu, i can browse the camera, but i cant open or copy files from there, anyone knows what is the poblem?17:04
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dima_when i connect hte iphone to kubuntu, i can browse the camera, but i cant open or copy files from there, anyone knows what is the poblem?17:05
psynauticdima_ please don't spam, nobody here right now knows anything about it17:07
psynauticwhat error do you get when you try to open a file?17:08
psynauticit's probably a permissions issue17:08
psynautici didn't think you could even connect an iphone to kubuntu and get any access17:08
psynauticwithout a lot of work, apple generally doesn't play nice with linux17:09
dima_it works fine with ubuntu17:09
dima_i get a message that says directory does not exist17:09
psynauticgnome has some stuff that kde doesn't have (to my knowledge) for working with ipod products17:12
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elenaCiao a tutti17:37
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neo_guys... I am unable to install ATI driver on Kubuntu Lucid17:42
neo_please help17:42
neo_guys need some help... please respond17:46
neo_regarding ATI Driver installation17:46
psynauticwhich driver?17:47
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neo_fglrx17:56
neo_driver17:56
psynauticare you using apt-get?17:57
neo_When I try to use Jockey to install the same, It throws up an error17:57
neo_Jockey17:57
psynauticwhat is the error?17:57
neo_i'll paste it... gimme 10 secs17:58
neo_SystemError: installArchives() failed17:58
psynautictry 'jockey-text' at the command line17:59
neo_k17:59
neo_no output17:59
psynauticsudo jockey-text17:59
neo_Searching for available drivers...18:00
neo_then returns back to prompt18:00
psynautichmm18:01
psynauticwell you can try to install the driver yourself with apt-get18:01
neo_how ?18:02
psynauticsudo apt-get install fglrx fglrx-amdcccle18:02
neo_the funny thing is , I had Karmic before I upgraded to Lucid, and it used to work like a charm with Karmic...18:02
psynauticyea, it must be a bug18:03
neo_ok.. i'll try it now18:03
neo_its installling...18:03
neo_Threw up an error and quit :-(18:03
neo_Errors encountered while processing fglrx, fglrx-amdcccle, fglrx-dev18:04
psynauticah, so the problem isn't jockey it's fglrx18:05
psynauticwhat's teh error?18:05
neo_E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)18:05
neo_the whole thing is quite long... can I paste it here, or will it be flooding ?18:05
psynauticuse a paste site18:05
psynauticpastebin18:06
neo_i'm quite new... can u gimme the link?18:06
psynautichttp://pastebin.com/18:07
neo_http://pastebin.com/aLsns9Ff18:07
psynauticConsult the make.log in the build directory18:08
psynautic/var/lib/dkms/fglrx/8.771/build/ for more information.18:08
psynauticwant to paste the make log?18:08
neo_yes18:08
neo_sure18:08
neo_http://pastebin.com/s15k4VdR18:09
neo_the log18:09
psynauticdo you have anything to update?18:10
psynauticsudo apt-get update18:10
neo_i already did run that...18:11
psynauticit looks like, there is a problem in that .deb18:11
psynauticim wondering if it was recently updated18:11
neo_yes18:11
neo_I updated to lucid today, if its what you mean18:11
psynauticno, i mean, maybe they updated the fglrx package18:12
psynauticand broke it18:12
psynautici know the version at release worked on my tv computer18:12
neo_why make such buggy updates ?18:13
on3_ghi to all18:13
dt_i replaced my mother board, everything works but my sound card, even tho lspci shows it18:13
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on3_gis there a way to hide a device from the device notifier to make unmountable?18:14
dt_nvick `DT`18:14
dt_...18:14
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neo_i did some searching and I read somewhere that the latest drivers are incompatible with the version of X bundled with lucid18:14
neo_:-(18:15
psynautic:/18:15
neo_does it mean i've to re-install karmic?18:15
psynauticor go to meerkat18:15
neo_meerkat ?18:16
neo_is it a version prior to karmic?18:16
neo_or later?18:16
`DT`so anyone got any ideas here?18:20
on3_ghi, is there a way to hide a device from the device notifier to make unmountable?18:21
`DT`what kind of device on3_g?18:22
on3_g'DT': mi sd card18:23
`DT`should be able to from System Settings > Advanced > Removable Devicec18:24
`DT`Devices*18:24
`DT`if you enable mount management, you can pick and choose what gets mounted and what doesn't18:24
`DT`nowm i need help getting my sound to actyally work instead of just telling me it works, when it doesn't18:26
`DT`!sound18:28
ubottuIf you're having problems with sound see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP318:28
on3_g`DT`: mi sd card act like mi home partition in my AAO, i need that nobody can unmount it18:29
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`DT`on3_g: is it the root partition as well?18:30
on3_g`DT`: the root partition is the ssd disk of the AAO an my sd card is the home partition18:31
`DT`i'm not sure where it is...but there is an area where you can decided who can mount and unmount...it used to be in Partition Manager18:33
`DT`but that was back in 7.10, not sure now18:33
on3_g`DT`: ok, thxs for your interest18:35
`DT`!partition18:36
ubottuFor help with partitioning a new install see: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/switching/installing-partitioning.html - For partitioning programs see !GParted, !QtParted (!Kubuntu 8.10 and lower) or !PartitionManager (!Kubuntu 9.04 and up) - Other partitioning topics include !fstab !home and !swap18:36
`DT`!PartitonManager18:36
`DT`spelling fail18:36
`DT`!PartitionManager18:36
ubottuPartitionManager is a !KDE !GUI partitioning program. Use !KPackageKit, !Adept or !Synaptic to install or type « sudo apt-get install partitionmanager » in a !terminal18:36
`DT`on3_g: that should let you do it right there18:37
`DT`!ALSA18:42
ubottuIf you're having problems with sound see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP318:42
`DT`ok....everything i've done says there is nothing wrong with my sound card, yet i still have NO SOUND18:45
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sdsdwerfgfd18:54
realslix_hi, I use synergy between 2 kubuntu desktop stations - both have german keyboard layout - but when I run synergys the client switch to english layout and server staz on german / how to solve this problem18:58
realslix_thx18:58
gokudoxhi, is anything known about kopete being broken after upgrade to meerkat?19:00
UgaUgaHello ? anybody awake here?19:00
UgaUgaWould need abit help , i would like to make a new kernel to my computer, i had old one that was optimised but after i upgraded it wont work anymore , any ideas how could i look what i have on the old one and getting the same settings to new one without going everything trough one by one?19:02
rossdavorbeste cineva si romaneste ?19:03
dasKreechgokudox: What kind of break19:03
* dasKreech isn't really here19:03
gokudoxdasKreech: well, symblos doesn't appear in systemtray, contact list = gone, after uninstall->reinstall k-menue-entry=gone, star via console only...19:05
gokudoxlast but notleast, connection services list = empty and so are modules19:07
e01hello19:07
e01how can i add usb flash drive as local repository19:08
gokudoxsince reinstall, reconfigure didn't help i don't know what to do now19:09
apoiHi! Is there an administrator of kubuntuforums.net present?19:10
gokudoxa second question, do i need the lucid-backports repository added?? i don't really know what that's good for, so i kept it deactivated after upgrading19:13
soon.19:25
jschallhow do i get firefox integrated with kde properly in 10.10?19:32
jschallit looks wrong, it doesn't know what to do with downloaded files19:32
jschallit's a kludge, but rekonq is obviously not quite there yet.19:33
jschallrekonq constantly crashes19:33
yossarianhi guys20:12
yossariani need some help20:12
yossariancan i ask? :D20:12
James147!ask | yossarian20:12
ubottuyossarian: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)20:12
yossariani'm using 10.10 and i've installed Krusader, everything runs fine BUT i can't disable the sounds in it20:12
yossariani'm using Gnome, by the way20:12
yossarianjust need krusader20:13
yossariananyone? :\20:14
yossarian'tis truly annoying20:14
Torchyossarian: install systemsettings20:15
Torchyossarian: disable audio notifications20:15
yossarianone second Torch, i'll give that a shot :)20:16
yossarianoh i've tried this earlier today20:16
yossarianin systemsettings\application and system notifications20:17
freinhardhi!20:17
yossariani have everything turned off there and it still doesn't turn off the sounds from krusader20:17
yossarianwait, i ran it as root20:18
freinhardi do not see channels in kmix and different audio devices in systemsettings. i got /etc/xdg/autostart/pulseaudio[-kde].desktop. should i delete the pulseaudio.dekstop so pulseaudio starts correctly with kde support?20:18
James147freinhard: you shouldnt delete files in /etc unless you know what your doing20:19
James147freinhard: it is far safer to rename things if you want to test20:20
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killodhi girls.20:20
yossarianTorch, if i run it as root, it saves my settings but doesn't make a difference. if i run it normally it doesn't save them20:21
killodI have one small question....  how to cut (or just get) music from flash????  flash-player play music... but how to get mp3 file????????  IN LINUX GUYS!  IN LINUX!!!20:22
nocturnaDoes anyone have a Soundblaster Audigy SE sound card? I'm thinking of getting one..but am curious if it has out-of-box support with Ubuntu/Kubuntu? I currently have a Soundblaster X-Fi Xtreme and can't get it to work on ANY distro.20:22
James147yossarian: if you run it as root (with kdesudo) then it saves you settings to /root  ... not your home20:22
yossariani figured, yes... but why doesn't it save when i run as me?20:22
James147yossarian: not sure, does it give an error?20:23
yossariannope20:23
yossariani save, i go back in, it's all the same as before20:23
James147yossarian: try running it from a terminal, see if it give you any intresting output20:25
yossarian$ systemsettings(23689)/kdecore (KConfigSkeleton) KCoreConfigSkeleton::writeConfig:20:25
yossarianw00t20:25
yossariani'm checking in .kde in my root folder, it's got three empty folders in it20:28
yossarianhmm20:30
yossarianif i run it as root i get Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-yossarian" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.20:30
jschallhow do i get firefox integrated with kde properly in 10.10? it looks all wrong and doesn't know what to do with downloaded files.20:32
yossarianJames147, Torch, i get the same thing even if i create a launcher for it. meh, i know it's the same thing, tho :\20:33
yossariandoesn't save20:33
yossarianguys!!!!20:38
yossarianhappy news :D20:38
yossarianok. i screwed it up because i ran it as su the first time and it created its folders for root20:39
yossariani deleted all the kde related folders, ran it again and it's fine now20:39
yossarianthank you!!!20:39
killodwhat?21:04
killodsillent hill?21:04
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chelseahi guys21:09
quillo-.21:11
chelseawhat does that mean ?21:12
quillohola21:12
the_rogue_smiler.21:12
the_rogue_smilersex21:12
Picithe_rogue_smiler: Please don't do that.21:13
chelseagrow up21:13
the_rogue_smilerlol21:13
Pici~/ll loop 521:13
Picioops21:13
the_rogue_smilerwhat is this anyway?21:14
the_rogue_smilerWhat is kubuntu?21:14
nerdy_kidkubuntu.com.  knock yourself out :)21:14
nerdy_kidhttp://www.kubuntu.org/21:14
* the_rogue_smiler checks21:14
nerdy_kidthat actually21:14
forkenflubuntu was the best21:15
the_rogue_smilersilent hill21:16
chelseaso lets talk a little bit more21:17
the_rogue_smilerhmm21:17
the_rogue_smilerHow much does kubuntu cost?21:17
chelseaI bought a new computer and I'm try to figure out what's my problem how about you ?21:17
nerdy_kidthe_rogue_smiler should check out http://www.kubuntu.org/ ;)21:18
James147the_rogue_smiler: kubuntu is free21:18
the_rogue_smilerIs it compatible with windows 7?21:19
nerdy_kiddepends on what you mean by "compatible"21:19
chelseahow long is supported a normal version of Ubuntu (not LTS) ???21:19
James147the_rogue_smiler: you can dual boot both kubuntu and win 7....21:19
the_rogue_smileroh21:20
chelseawindows 7 is bullshit21:20
chelseayou should try LInux21:20
the_rogue_smilerlol I was kidding. I use ubuntu21:21
chelseagood on u21:21
the_rogue_smilerWindows is better though.21:21
chelseawhere are you from ?21:21
the_rogue_smilerI don't need to configure windows to be compatible with everything.21:22
chelseaI'm from Switzerland... :D21:22
the_rogue_smilerThough I have a feeling linux is soon going to be better than windows for eveything21:22
chelseanice thinking!21:23
the_rogue_smilerRight now, the only reason I have ubuntu is because I am poor.21:23
forkenI use archlinux21:24
chelseahow do you install for example the gimp in less that 3 minutes with 7 ???21:24
the_rogue_smilerYou download it and install it21:24
the_rogue_smiler:)21:24
chelseahow do you update all your software in one time ?21:25
the_rogue_smilerI dunno.21:25
the_rogue_smilerWindows doesn't need as many updates as frequently.21:25
James147chelsea: you dont, instead you run about 10 different auto update programs in the background ;)21:25
chelseayou need 1 minutes to search one google, 2 minutes to download, 3 to install it.21:26
the_rogue_smilersame for linux21:26
chelseahahahahah the_rogue_smiler...21:26
James147the_rogue_smiler: no, you run "sudo apt-get install gimp" then wait for it to dl and install :)21:26
James147nosent take 1/2 the time as looking on the internet21:26
forkenif you know the package name ;)21:27
chelseaon linux: i do that in 2 minutes and less... (sudo apt-get install gimp (on a console21:27
the_rogue_smilerwait, it downloads it when you do that?21:27
the_rogue_smilernvm then21:27
chelsea(TTY2 it's realy fast (alt+f2...)21:27
forkensudo apt-get freaking_ati_drivers21:27
forkensudo apt-get let_it_be21:28
chelseathe_rogue_smiler: with this command line, you search, you download, you install in less than 2 minutes21:28
chelseatry21:28
chelseayou'll see21:28
chelseafor update, all software +security... sudo apt-get upgrade21:28
chelsea^^21:28
James147chelsea: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade   you mean ;)21:29
chelseaI don't need also agree, and next. next... next... with linux21:29
forkenpacman -Syu21:29
chelsea:-) yes... James14721:29
forkenhaha ubuntu is so inefficient21:30
chelseabut whit ubuntu , sudo apt-get update is runing on the start of cumputer... and every hour (i think)21:30
chelsea:-) better than 721:30
James147freinhard: "echo "alias upgrade='sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade'" >> .bashrc"   :)21:31
rorkchelsea: normal support is 18 months21:31
James147chelsea: every day by default I think it is21:32
chelseaand I don't need to go on all-driver.com... to download drivers...all is doing itself21:32
chelseaJames147: yes... also you dont need realy to do apt-get update...21:32
chelseabut you can it's better21:32
chelsearork: thank's21:32
chelsea:)21:32
James147chelsea: I usually do to make sure I get the latest :)21:33
chelseathe_rogue_smiler: do you think always that windaupe is better than linux?21:33
forkenhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzdykNa2IBU21:33
chelseaJames147: :-) mee too21:34
chelsea*me21:34
forkenopen source makes you lose money21:34
forken(or microsoft)21:34
the_rogue_smilerwindaupe?21:35
hellslingerso, installed a clean version of ubuntu 10.10 and my runlevel is still "unknown"21:38
chelseawho does that viedo again ?? Window of course they are going to say that their project are better than anyone else..!!!!!!!!! don't need to do uni to get that!21:40
chelseathey think that they are better than anyone else in this world!!!!!!!!!!!21:40
Newbee_hello21:40
chelseahi Newbee21:40
Newbee_I don't need bluetooth and wireless all the time. What can I do to not always start it by default but be able to start it, when needed?21:41
Taggnostrhello21:43
MichealH!hi | Taggnostr21:43
MichealHOop... forgot it got removed.21:44
chelseathe_rogue_smiler: windaupe is... windows... but in french you say... une daube.. (a shit)21:44
chelsea....21:44
chelsealol21:44
FloodBotK1chelsea: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.21:44
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Taggnostrin window behavior -> screen hedges I can set action triggered when I move the pointer on the sides/edges of the screen, is there a way to trigger them when I click instead?21:45
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chelseaTaggnostr: ... have you install compiz?21:47
amstanhello, my synaptics touchpad doesn't work on 10.10, i tried lshw, it's not even displayed there21:48
amstanwhat can i do?21:48
Taggnostrchelsea, nope, with compiz I used to use it, but now kubuntu seems to provide the same things by default, expect that I can't select how to trigger them anymore21:48
chelseasorry I don't understand what you said... I speak French... but I managed in English21:50
chelseaI get it21:51
chelsea:)21:51
chelseaTaggnostr:  I know I've the same thing on my computer, I think you can configur that on KDEconf21:52
Taggnostrok. let me google for it21:52
chelseaTaggnostr: you go on : sytem config (kde)21:53
chelseaon screen (i don't know the real translation)21:54
chelseaon windows21:54
chelseaand on a21:54
chelseaspecific param/conf21:54
m_absKopete in Kubuntu 10.10 has a problem on two of my machines, I can't get the contactlist opened again. If I try to run kopete again I get an empty kopete without my accounts and without my contacts. I have this message indicator in my systray, I should be able to click kopete in this and get the contactlist restored, but nothing happens then I click it. Any ides what I can do to fix this?21:54
chelseaTaggnostr: you find?21:54
chelseadid you find it ?21:55
Taggnostrthere's a section for the screen edges21:55
Taggnostrbut I don't see any option to trigger these actions with a "click" rather than just moving the pointer to the edge/corner21:55
chelseaTaggnostr: sorry it's bevior of the windows21:56
chelsea3st bouton21:56
chelsea^^21:56
chelseasorry I can't translate.21:56
chelseaanyway... Hope you're going to make it... Because I'm going to bed it's 23:00 and I'm tired so good day or whatever..21:57
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pegasusbilIm running kubuntu 10.10 on a dell xps lt..i havent been able to find a quickcam app for kde...i know cheese works with ubuntu, is there an app22:44
dasKreechpegasusbil: Try kamoso22:45
pegasusbili dont see kamoso listed in the repository22:48
dasKreech!info kamoso22:49
ubottukamoso (source: kamoso): Tool to take pictures and videos from your webcam. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.0.5-0ubuntu4 (maverick), package size 180 kB, installed size 852 kB22:49
dasKreechpegasusbil: ^^^22:49
e01hello, someone with kubuntu 10.10 and videocard GF8600gt22:58
e01because i had really slow kde, and don`t know is it normal or not?22:58
dasKreeche01: what driver?23:02
e01nvidia-current23:02
nerdy_kidanyone notice in kpackagekit (10.10 version) that the status icons (such and the refreshing packages icon) dont clear themselves thus you can see residue of the last frame?23:08
e01dasKreech: what driver u use?23:08
dasKreechI have AMD 4600 so I suppose it doesn't matter. I was just trying to get you to give some more info in case it helps someone23:09
djtotoholas23:09
dasKreechhi djtoto23:09
pr0xywhy isn't the bottom bar clickable for me?23:11
djtotouna pregunta tengo un iphone con ios 4 con terminal console pero como insstalo e provado con sudo  con apt-get y no van los comandos23:11
nerdy_kidpr0xy by the "bottom bar" you mean the taskbar?23:12
djtotoplease spanihs23:12
pr0xyyeah.23:12
pr0xyespanol?23:12
djtotook23:12
KimJongIl!es23:12
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.23:12
e01dasKreech: i am with 1.6ghz cpu and 1.5gb ram, and gf8600gt23:13
nerdy_kidpr0xy I only speak English sorry.  I can use google transate if you want.  PM me23:13
djtotograce23:13
djtotogracias23:13
e01dasKreech: i installed drivers that are recommended, most of windows move smoothly but when i try to resize some, it is drawn in slices23:13
pr0xynerdy_kid, I speak English too. I was trying to be of some assistance to djtoto23:14
pr0xynerdy_kid, Now I only have a CLI23:14
nerdy_kidpr0xy oh sorry didn't see that23:14
galoisfieldhow kubuntu desktop is different from gnome/23:14
pr0xyit's cool23:14
pr0xygaloisfield !KDE23:14
nerdy_kidpr0xy you have a CLI, do you know if X11 is running?23:15
pr0xynerdy_kid, no idea.23:15
nerdy_kidpr0xy can you see your mouse?23:15
galoisfieldpr0xy: ya i have heard that but never used a kde one before..can u specify in what aspects kde and gnome are different23:16
pr0xyyes, it's on my mousepad, just under my right hand. except when i'm typing.23:16
pr0xyKDE is more prettiful, galoisfield.23:16
nerdy_kidpr0xy your mouse _pointer_.  You said that you have only a command line.  So I have to ask a few questions before I can help you ;)23:18
pr0xynerdy_kid, I was kidding. How do I restart from the command line.23:18
galoisfieldpr0xy: prettiful?? will try it then..23:18
nerdy_kidpr0xy sudo reboot will restart from the commandline23:19
pr0xygaloisfield, Prettiful is a technical term.23:19
pr0xyok. just did that.23:19
dasKreeche01: you can ask in #kwin if you like23:19
nerdy_kidpr0xy ok just one thing:  do you know what graphics card you have?23:19
pr0xyI have a GT240 from EVGA. it's nvidia23:20
dasKreechgaloisfield: KDE has a mind set of tight integration between applications and allowing the user to make knowledgeable choices for how the applications and desktop should work.23:20
galoisfieldpr0xy: sudo shutdown -r will also work.. :)23:21
nerdy_kidgaloisfield eh, sudo reboot is less typing :D23:21
pr0xyI already restarted.23:21
dasKreechgaloisfield: GNOME has a mind set of smaller apps targeted at use cases and very good choices by the development community so that by default the user should not need to make any changes to have a useful workspace23:21
nerdy_kidpr0xy ok good.  Log in (obviously) and tell me any wierd behavior that happens/23:22
pr0xyok. 1 sec23:22
pr0xyokay, the taskbar is flashing at the right side23:23
nerdy_kidalright, so first thing is kill compositing:  press ctrl+alt+F1223:24
pr0xynothing on the desktop is responding.23:24
nerdy_kidalright second though23:24
galoisfielddasKreech: u have described nicely..now i will surely try KDE :)23:24
nerdy_kidpr0xy open up konsole and run "killall plasma-desktop && plasma-desktop"23:24
nerdy_kidpr0xy without quotes23:24
dasKreechgaloisfield: I encourage everone to try both. Part of the good of FOSS is you can have software that works right for you23:25
pr0xyok, now I have a black screen with a gray underscore in the upper left. I don't see how to open konsole.23:25
dasKreechyou may find that you like the applications from KDE for example but the GNOME Desktop so you can now run what's good for you :)23:25
pr0xyWTF? I just restarted.23:25
nerdy_kidpr0xy no you didnt just wait23:26
dasKreechpr0xy: that's not good did you just install Video card drivers23:26
pr0xyI did, just today.23:26
nerdy_kidpr0xy sorry forgot to warn you, the screen will go black for a sec23:26
pr0xyokay, how long?23:26
nerdy_kidpr0xy should be no longer then 20 seconds.  It takes about 7 seconds on my machine23:27
nerdy_kidpr0xy its restarting you desktop23:27
nerdy_kidyou should still be able to see the terminal23:27
pr0xyok, wow. It's still black. I have 1 gig ram.23:29
pr0xywould that matter?23:29
nerdy_kidpr0xy can you see the terminal?23:29
pr0xynope. never started it.23:29
pr0xynothing on the desktop was responding, then i did the ctrl+alt+f1223:30
nerdy_kidpr0xy you didn't?  ok then that is not normal.  I thought you ran the command I gave you.  Did you get the video drivers from NVIDIA's site?23:30
nerdy_kidalso try hitting alt+F223:30
nerdy_kida little box _should_ pop up.23:30
pr0xyno. I got them in the driver thing on an older kernel.23:31
nerdy_kidok, and everything was working until the new kernel?23:31
pr0xywtf? pr0xy-desktop login: and a blinky underscore23:31
nerdy_kidyeah just login23:31
pr0xyuh-huh. stuff worked ok. then the new kernel came with maverick.23:32
nerdy_kidah, did you do an upgrade from lucid?23:32
pr0xyyeah. maverick install disks just screw up the drive. Then nothing boots up at all. don't even get grub.23:33
pr0xywhat do I put in the command line now?23:33
pr0xywhat do I put in the command line now?23:34
pr0xyshould I start KDE23:34
nerdy_kidok well you can try two things:  you can reboot the pc and try to boot from your old kernel and fix the mess that way.  Or we can disable the NVIDIA driver and then try to fix the mess.23:34
nerdy_kidso you pick what you want to do.23:34
nerdy_kidthe old kernel might be easier, but then it might not work either.  Disabling the driver will be a little harder (not much) but we have to do that anyway.23:35
pr0xywell, when I didn't use the driver, it didn't do anything. just rainbow rectangles.23:36
kathyjI did a clean install with maverick and it was fine until I did kernrl update, then super slomo23:36
nerdy_kidso wait, is this an upgraded lucid or a clean installed maverick?23:37
pr0xyupgraded lucid 64 bit.23:37
nerdy_kidok.  So lets try the old kernel then.  do sudo reboot again, and _before_ you see the kubuntu logo press and hold shift.  a menu should pop up.23:38
pr0xyshould I stop at grub?23:38
nerdy_kidyeah23:38
pr0xyok.23:38
nerdy_kidwe need the grub menu23:38
pr0xyok. at GNU GRUB  version 1.98+20100804-5ubuntu323:40
pr0xywhatever that means...23:40
pr0xynow what?23:40
nerdy_kidyeah ignore that.  Ok now assuming your last kernel worked (which you said it did), go to the previous kernel.  NOT the "recovery" one, the one before that23:41
nerdy_kidso you should have to press the down arrow a total of two times :)23:41
nerdy_kidand then hit enter23:41
pr0xyI'm not four.23:41
nerdy_kidsorry I was joking in the last line23:41
pr0xyi'm four and a half.23:42
nerdy_kidlol23:42
pr0xyI kid, I kid.23:42
pr0xycrap. CLI again.23:42
nerdy_kidnot even a flicker?  you sure the system booted all the way?23:42
nerdy_kidshould get at least a flicker23:42
nerdy_kidbut if it gives you the login prompt at the CLI then it is still busted23:43
pr0xynope, login prompt at CLI23:44
pr0xywith the old kernel.23:44
nerdy_kidah crap.  Well login, and lets check some logs23:45
pr0xysorry if it takes a while between saying stuff, I'm eating a sammich in the kitchen.23:45
nerdy_kidenter less -n 50 /var/log/Xorg.0.log23:45
nerdy_kideh, no prob :)23:45
nerdy_kidthat should spit out exactly 50 lines of the ending of a very important log...23:46
pr0xyso what do I type in exactly?23:46
nerdy_kidless -n 50 /var/log/Xorg.0.log23:46
nerdy_kidyou can use tab to auto complete the filenames so you dont have to type the whole thing23:47
pr0xy50:No such file or directory23:48
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pr0xy"50:No such file or directory"23:49
nerdy_kidyou didnt type it right, it is less SPACE -n SPACE 50 SPACE /var/log/Xorg.0.log23:49
pr0xy"/var/log/Xorg.0.log  (press RETURN)"23:49
pr0xyoooh. lots of crap I don't understand.23:50
nerdy_kideh, you are looking for a line like "x server aborted"  should be at the very end23:50
nerdy_kidactually i am probably over complicating stuff.23:51
nerdy_kidrun sudo apt-get remove nvidia-current23:51
nerdy_kidthat will remove the nvidia driver.23:51
nerdy_kidunfortunatly I have to go, i will be back in about 40 mins, really sorry23:51
pr0xydon't see an "x server aborted"23:52
nerdy_kidyeah just run the other command i gave you23:52
pr0xywho can help me?23:52
nerdy_kidi will be back in like 40 mins23:52
nerdy_kidsorryu23:52
pr0xyhow do I leave the CLI thingy with xorg?23:52
nerdy_kidoh sorry press q23:53
pr0xyok.23:53
nerdy_kidbye23:53
pr0xybai23:53
lordganeshI got this error in sudo apt-get install qtparted http://paste.ubuntu.com/516512/23:53
pr0xyis your dpkg old?23:54
pr0xylordganesh?23:56
lordganeshpr0xy: no I m using kubuntu 10.0423:56
pr0xyok. update to 10.04.1?23:57
lordganeshpr0xy: Actually I don't want to update.Is  there no other way to resolve the problem23:58
pr0xyI think it's that dpkg is out of date.23:58

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