[02:05] <phillw> !metapackage
[02:05] <ubot5> A meta-package is a package that simply depends upon other packages and brings them in. It's not a real package, but a very useful package that can drag in other package versions.
[02:05] <phillw> !lubuntu-desktop
[02:06] <phillw> !ubuntu-desktop
[02:06] <ubot5> k/ed/x/l/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading.
[02:06] <phillw> hmmm, not yet sync'ed then
[02:07] <phillw> oooh, it is, I missed it :D
[02:10] <MonthOLDpickle> hey
[02:10] <MonthOLDpickle> the best way to install wine is sudo apt-get install wine
[02:13] <ghuru> hello guys!
[02:14] <ghuru> I was wondering how do you do network discovery on Lubuntu?
[02:35] <phillw> ghuru: there seems to be a little package missing, it's being worked on.
[02:36] <phillw> I'm just a documentor, so am struggling to keep up with the tech talk on this, you can ask on the mailing list.
[02:36] <phillw> bioterror: are you asleep?
[02:37] <czz> does lubuntu get updates at the same time as ubuntu?
[02:37] <czz> or is there a delay process?
[02:38] <phillw> czz: the updates through the cycle from one release to the next run at the same time.
[02:38] <phillw> as they are *buntu family releases
[02:38] <czz> seems like i get less updates for chromium
[02:38] <czz> i was getting 1 every 1-2 days
[02:39] <phillw> maybe chromium is stablising, it depends if you're running stable or daily build.
[02:40] <czz> dev. build
[02:40] <phillw> chromium issues a daily build, but it has to be added.
[02:40]  * phillw waves to hyperair
[02:40] <czz> phillw, which do you use?
[02:41] <ghuru> pyneighborhood
[02:41] <ghuru> i guess im sticking to that one
[02:41] <phillw> I use stable as am 3G atm, when I'm on ethernet I use daily
[02:41] <ghuru> this thing runs so nice on a netbook
[02:42] <phillw> ghuru: It's a nice little system :) , but, then again I'm biased as I love it to bits.
[02:42] <czz> phillw, do you code for lubuntu?
[02:43] <phillw> czz: no, I'm a documentor / wiki person
[02:43] <ghuru> phillw the only thing it is missing is a network discovery tool, or a tool to dicover and share over smb
[02:44] <ghuru> oyneighborhood does part of the job though
[02:44] <phillw> ghuru: there is a patch for that, just that I don't fully understand what the devs were on about enough to write up the notes up yet.
[02:44] <ghuru> well i guess ill wait on that :)
[02:45] <phillw> ghuru: I'll have it up in a couple of days.
[02:47] <phillw> there is one package that you need... let me go check through the emails and see if I can find it.
[02:47] <phillw> me thinks it is gvfs-backend, but I do need to check.
[02:49] <phillw> ghuru: " I was remembering I needed something and it was gvfs-backends. I apt-get'd it and now it works"
[02:49] <phillw> heck, I was close :D
[02:52] <phillw> pcmanfm can then see them.
[02:53] <phillw> it is going to be sorted out; it appears it was an oversight that it was not included on the iso.
[02:56] <ghuru> but is this like a gui?
[03:00] <lubatic> Woohoo, made my first "fix".  Addressess "mailto:" bug in Chromium. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-meta/+bug/662544/comments/2
[03:00] <ubot5> Launchpad bug 662544 in lubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "mailto: link in Lubuntu spawns Chromium window (affected: 1, heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[03:01] <MonthOLDpickle> how do I install java?
[03:02] <rlc> how do i get the login screen enabled again?
[03:03] <MonthOLDpickle> rlc
[03:04] <MonthOLDpickle> Preferences > Users and Groups > On yoru usernam hit advance
[03:04] <rlc> brb
[03:06] <rlc> change advanced settings where?
[03:10] <MonthOLDpickle> should be on right
[03:10] <rlc> I dont see the login here ... onlt delete user
[03:11] <rlc> options: disable account, home dir., shell, main grp, userid
[03:12] <MonthOLDpickle> I need to install java anyone know how
[03:12] <MonthOLDpickle> http://i51.tinypic.com/sxdgmc.png
[03:13] <rlc> have you checked synaptic?
[03:14] <MonthOLDpickle> oh I am in terminal
[03:20] <rlc> ok whats the command?
[03:40]  * hyperair waves at phillw 
[03:41] <phillw> hyperair: you get the email ?
[03:42] <hyperair> what email?
[03:42] <phillw> I just sent one to the mailing group "padawans"
[03:44] <hyperair> O_o
[03:44] <hyperair> i don't think i know any mailing group like that
[03:44] <phillw> no, the subject was padawans, it was sent to the lubuntu maiing list
[04:13] <hungtran> hello, anyone here has tried lubuntu with a 128MB RAM machine?
[04:16] <phillw> hungtran: yeah many have
[04:17] <phillw> installing it off the normal cd will not work on such a machine though.
[04:19] <phillw> hungtran: you will need to use https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp/MinimalInstall
[04:20] <hungtran> phillw: oh thanks I know it, I just want to be sure that we could run Lubuntu on machines like that
[04:21] <phillw> hungtran: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu#Intended%20Audience and the team are resolute that it will remain the case.
[04:24] <hungtran> phillw: in 10.10 update manager uses much memory, is it safe if I remove it?
[04:24] <phillw> yes, quite safe
[04:25] <phillw> you can manually update if you want, but lubuntu does not issue releases every two days like some do :)
[04:27] <phillw> if you use the mini-iso it installs without auto-updates turned on.
[04:28] <hungtran> phillw: yeah, I don't think put update manager in lubuntu is a good idea, my old laptop runs 10.10 a bit slower than 10.04, but I think that because i'm familiar with terminal and linux, some new Linux users could like update manager :)
[04:28] <hungtran> phillw: yes, I use mini-iso but update manager is still running and uses about 10MB RAM :(
[04:29] <phillw> it's always a hard call to make; we want lubuntu to be user friendly, but with that comes an overhead.
[04:30] <phillw> you can remove it, and get that precious 10MB of RAM back.
[04:32] <hungtran> phillw: do you know about translation process? lubuntu team updates new translation or lxde team does? Vietnamese translation is almost done now but I can't see it in 10.10
[04:32] <phillw> Step 9 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp/MinimalInstall says to leave it off? Are you saying it is being turned back on ?
[04:33] <hungtran> phillw: yes I always turn it off, it's like my habit now :), I always update ubuntu and lubuntu in terminal
[04:34] <phillw> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Translations has details on translation projects.
[04:34] <hungtran> phillw: i think it auto update is off but update manager is on, it runs but I think I do nothing
[04:34] <hungtran> <hungtran> phillw: i think it auto update is off but update manager is on, it runs but I think it does nothing
[04:34] <phillw> hungtran: I will file a bug for you.
[04:35] <hungtran> phillw: oh thanks
[04:35] <phillw> lubuntu should not be using up 10MB of your RAM for a useless process.
[04:38] <hungtran> phillw: my old laptop has 256MB RAM but lubuntu runs slowly, slower than windows xp does, so I'm not sure where these problems come from
[04:41] <phillw> hungtran: I've filed a report to the dev team.
[04:42] <phillw> as it is a small team, it may be couple of days before I have a resolution for you. My initial thinking is to use 10.04
[04:44] <phillw> If you do not have a 10.04 disk, then I can give you link to get one.
[04:46] <hungtran> phillw: thank you, I get one :)
[04:47] <phillw> do you need a link to get it?
[04:47] <phillw> I hold copies on my server area.
[04:47] <hungtran> phillw: I'm going to have a talk a FOSSASIA 2010 in Vietnam, I'm going to introduce Lubuntu, so I think I should use the new release
[04:49] <phillw> okay, the dev team are usually quick responding to an email via the mailing list.
[04:49] <phillw> hungtran: you may want to have read through and join https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/GettingInvolved
[04:52] <phillw> hungtran: it's obvious that you want push lubuntu out, so by doing that you will get up to date information of where the project is at.
[04:53] <hungtran> phillw: oh I joined as translator, I'm in launchpad and mailing list too
[04:54] <phillw> you will see the reply to my earlier question about update-mamnager, then :)
[04:55] <phillw> once it is replied to :D
[04:58] <hungtran> phillw: uh oh, I misunderstand, what uses 10 MB RAM is "update-notifier" not "update-manager", update-notifier runs automatically in the background and update-manager is just a gtk application
[04:59] <phillw> ::sigh ::
[04:59] <phillw> okies I'll update the email, you should get a copy of it.
[05:00] <hungtran> oh sorry
[05:00] <hungtran> but the same question, is it safe to remove it, i mean update-notifier
[05:01] <phillw> yeah, trash it. you not need it - as you said, you manually update
[05:02] <zkriesse> wazzzup
[05:02] <zkriesse> ya'll
[05:02] <phillw> g'day zkriesse
[05:03] <hungtran> phillw: you could let me update on mailing list
[05:03] <zkriesse> hey phillw
[05:03] <zkriesse> phillw: who was that guy (your buddy?) that was setting up a forum?
[05:03] <phillw> hungtran: have you had my update through?
[05:04] <hungtran> ah, i got it
[05:04] <phillw> zkriesse: offtopic, please
[05:04] <phillw> reply to all !!!!!
[05:07] <phillw> hungtran: please do not spam the mailing list, not that I need to tell you that. The lubuntu team is real small & we all put in what spare time we have into project (and then some more).
[05:09] <hungtran> phillw: I'm sorry so sorry :(
[05:10] <phillw> hungtran: you never need to apologise, I was not saying that you had, only requesting that you do not :D
[05:28] <bioterror> :D
[05:28] <bioterror> I can help too :-)
[05:28] <bioterror> sorry
[05:28] <bioterror> !lubuntu
[05:28] <ubot5> lubuntu is a project to create a derivative of Ubuntu using the LXDE desktop environment. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu
[05:29] <bioterror> !lubuntu-desktop
[05:29] <ubot5> k/ed/x/l/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading.
[05:29] <bioterror> niiice
[07:50] <audio> Is it possible to instruct the Lubuntu 10.10 installer to install GRUB to the Lubuntu partition rather than the MBR?
[07:51] <audio> I'm looking to boot multiple OS's from the same disk via PLOP boot manager.
[07:52] <bioterror> ofcourse you can remove the grub and use what ever you want?
[07:53] <audio> bioterror: Hi, again.  I do not want to remove GRUB just not install it to the MBR which has happened on the test rig I am using.
[07:53] <audio> I want to recreate the test rig with GRUB in the Lubuntu partition
[07:54] <audio> I am wondering how to tell the 10.10 installer how to do this?
[08:11] <audio> By way of a little explanation - PLOP finds and presents the boot loader of each OS and allows a simple choice of which to start.  It also provides booting from CD/USB for those (older) PCs which don't have the capability.
[08:25] <bioterror> huh
[08:25] <bioterror> I was busy D:
[08:25] <audio> It happens to us all...
[08:28] <audio> I suppose the question boils down to: when using the 10.10 CD installer is there an option to tell it where to install GRUB?
[08:31] <bioterror> seems that the mbr is the correct way for the grub
[08:33] <audio> yes, MBR is frequently used but it is also often installed to an OS partition.
[08:36] <audio> Some additional info ref: PLOP site http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager.html#installhd  Section 6
[08:50] <zebastianortis> how do i regulate the screen brightness in lubuntu
[08:50] <zebastianortis> everytime i disconnect my laptop when i connect it again to the power plug it dims down
[08:50] <zebastianortis> its very annoying
[08:52] <zebastianortis> i need top brightness
[08:57] <bioterror> zebastianortis, hop
[08:57] <zebastianortis> hop?
[08:57] <bioterror> zebastianortis, from the preferences
[08:58] <zebastianortis> exact path?
[08:58] <bioterror> press the battery icon, click prefences and take off those dim display and things
[08:58] <bioterror> "lick the battery icon" ;)
[08:58] <bioterror> lick :D
[08:58] <bioterror> click
[08:59] <zebastianortis> ok i unchecked that
[08:59] <zebastianortis> still dim
[08:59] <bioterror> put it up
[08:59] <zebastianortis> if youre taking about the preferences>screensaver>advanced tab
[08:59] <bioterror> nope
[09:00] <zebastianortis> ok.......
[09:00] <bioterror> you have that battery icon in your task bar
[09:00] <bioterror> systray
[09:00] <zebastianortis> no i dont
[09:00] <bioterror> take off the cord
[09:00] <bioterror> and it will appear
[09:01] <zebastianortis> ok
[09:01] <zebastianortis> now what do i do on it
[09:01] <bioterror> Check the preferences
[09:02] <zebastianortis> what else
[09:03] <zebastianortis> it says brightness is set to a hundred percent
[09:04] <zebastianortis> there
[09:04] <zebastianortis> thank you http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig11/roberts-m1.1.1.html
[10:38] <andriii> Hey :)
[10:39] <bioterror> hi
[10:49] <akis> is it available a live-cd?
[10:52] <head_victim> akis: Yes, it is a livecd and installation CD
[10:53] <akis> ok thaks. you mean i have just to burn it as .iso image?
[10:54] <head_victim> Yes, if you've downloaded the ISO file then you can just burn it to disk and it should boot up into a menu where you can just try Lubuntu
[10:54] <akis> ok. thanks again. bye
[11:57] <beginner0815> helo
[11:58] <beginner0815> does lubuntu have a text mode installer?
[12:15] <JoeMaverickSett> beginner0815: i think this might help you out; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp#Minimal%20Install
[12:18] <JoeMaverickSett> beginner0815: oh, sorry, i didn't look at it clearly, it's this; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp/MinimalInstall
[12:41] <beginner0815> JoeMaverickSett: thanks. i think i need a new ram stick first. :(
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[16:04] <OlMightyGreek> hi
[16:04] <OlMightyGreek> is there a 64bit version of lubuntu?
[16:08] <JoeMaverickSett> OlMightyGreek: i think this might help you, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp/MinimalInstall
[16:08] <JoeMaverickSett> in that section it states how to get the 64bit version of lubuntu.
[16:09] <OlMightyGreek> ok, thanks. i also could build a lubuntu 64bit by using UCK, right?
[16:11] <JoeMaverickSett> OlMightyGreek: tbh, i don't know. it might work, though. :)
[16:37] <Kurdistan> hey guys
[16:38] <bioterror> hi
[16:39] <Kurdistan> bioterror I have problem updating my system
[16:39] <Kurdistan> I think the problem is sun java (jre).
[16:40] <bioterror> okay
[16:40] <bioterror> I suggest you to remove openjdk
[16:40] <bioterror> and install sun-java-jre
[16:40] <Kurdistan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/516317/
[16:42] <bioterror> ahhh
[16:42] <bioterror> it doesnt find the packageS+
[16:42] <Kurdistan> okey how can I fix it?
[16:48] <bioterror> hmmm
[16:48] <bioterror> sudo apt-get update
[16:49] <bioterror> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:49] <bioterror> how it works ;)
[16:49] <bioterror> hope it works even
[16:53] <Kurdistan> okey I will test
[16:53] <Kurdistan> do I need to upgrade to 10.10 for it to work
[16:53] <Kurdistan> stranges
[16:53] <MonthOLDpickle> Jurd
[16:53] <MonthOLDpickle> Kurdistan:
[16:53] <MonthOLDpickle> Do a full install I recommend
[16:53] <MonthOLDpickle> so backup your data
[16:53] <Kurdistan> I fixed it
[16:55] <Kurdistan> no need to dist-upgrade
[16:55] <Kurdistan> MonthOldpickle :) thx but no thx
[19:07] <hyperair> hmm what browsers do people here use?
[19:08] <hyperair> i've been looking for a suitable firefox replacement, now that it has turned into a supreme RAM hog that can eat up 30% of 2G
[19:09] <bioterror> chromium
[19:09] <bioterror> it's default in lubuntu
[19:12] <MonthOLDpickle> I use chromium on both windows and linux
[19:18] <hyperair> hmmm
[19:18] <hyperair> but chromium is just as bad in terms of memory consumption.
[19:18] <hyperair> if not worse.
[19:18] <bioterror> well
[19:18] <bioterror> try midori?
[19:19]  * hyperair is trying that at the moment
[19:19] <hyperair> so far it's hit 7%.
[19:19] <hyperair> which is pretty bad, but not terrible.
[19:19] <hyperair> yet
[19:20] <bioterror> haha
[19:20] <MonthOLDpickle> how many tabs?
[19:20] <MonthOLDpickle> extensions
[19:20] <MonthOLDpickle> etc
[19:20] <MonthOLDpickle> Mine barely uses any
[19:20] <MonthOLDpickle> and I usually have 6 tabs
[19:20] <hyperair> MonthOLDpickle: 3 tabs.
[19:20] <hyperair> MonthOLDpickle: i had more open just now, but the memory usage didn't drop after closing them
[19:21] <hyperair> extensions.. i have almost all the default ones enabled. maybe i should unload some
[19:21] <bioterror> hyperair, sudo apt-get install links2
[19:21] <hyperair> like mouse gestures, since i don't even know how to activate it
[19:21] <bioterror> hyperair, and then alt+f2 and you type "links -g"
[19:21] <hyperair> something graphical please.
[19:21] <MonthOLDpickle> I only have three extensions
[19:21] <MonthOLDpickle> whats links2 do ?
[19:22] <bioterror> every browser requires memory, ofcourse
[19:22] <bioterror> and nowdays internet pages are huge
[19:22] <hyperair> =\
[19:22] <hyperair> i should really switch back to 32-bit.
[19:22] <MonthOLDpickle> I liek chromium cause its actually efficent vs firefox
[19:22] <MonthOLDpickle> >.>
[19:22] <hyperair> my 32-bit p4 desktop doesn't seem to have problems with firefox.
[19:23] <MonthOLDpickle> efficient **
[19:23] <MonthOLDpickle> My duo 2 core intel at 3.2ghz with gb of ram and gtx260 has mem issues with FF
[19:23] <MonthOLDpickle> dunno about my mini 9 single core 1.9 atom
[19:23] <bioterror> I dont have any memory issues :-)
[19:23] <MonthOLDpickle> I just stay away from FF
[19:23] <MonthOLDpickle> it acts like IE
[19:23] <bioterror> I have lots of ram to waste :-)
[19:24] <hyperair> MonthOLDpickle: my p4 with 1G ram has no issues with FF whatsoever. pretty interesting eh.
[19:24] <MonthOLDpickle> no
[19:24] <MonthOLDpickle> P4 are decent cpus
[19:24] <hyperair> on the contrary, my 64-bit with dual core intel and 2G RAM has memory issues with firefox.
[19:25] <MonthOLDpickle> My moms P2 just finally died
[19:25] <MonthOLDpickle> lol
[19:25] <hyperair> MonthOLDpickle: i'm not talking about the CPU, i'm talking about the age and RAM capacity.
[19:25] <MonthOLDpickle> yea hyp thats mine set up 64 but duo 2 core
[19:25] <hyperair> for some reason, 32-bit firefox doesn't chew up the entire system's memory
[19:25] <MonthOLDpickle> He computer was a Pii at like 500mhz
[19:25] <MonthOLDpickle> ide everything
[19:26] <MonthOLDpickle> and amd like 15mb of ram
[19:26] <MonthOLDpickle> two sticks
[19:32] <hyperair> i bet it didn't run firefox.
[19:33] <MonthOLDpickle> end of its life it could barely run windows
[19:33] <MonthOLDpickle> XP
[19:33] <hyperair> i don't believe you can run windows xp on 15M of ram.
[19:33] <MonthOLDpickle> and man I built a pc for her for 276 total but the cd drive was a pain tog etout
[19:33] <MonthOLDpickle> I think thast the case I think one stick was BAD
[19:34] <MonthOLDpickle> prob why it died lol
[19:34] <bagoj> Hello Everyone, can you pls help me? I have a problem with Lubuntu 10.10 livecd, it cannot boot.
[19:34] <bagoj> MD5sum seems to be OK, I get the menu but after selecting "Try Lubuntu without modifying my computer" or similar I get only blinking cursor in the upper left corner
[19:34] <bagoj> What boot options should I use?
[19:34] <MonthOLDpickle> You using a CD or USB?
[19:34] <bagoj> CD
[19:35] <MonthOLDpickle> How did you download lubuntu?
[19:35] <MonthOLDpickle> and whats the file size?
[19:35] <bagoj> Directly from Lubutnu.net. The size is...
[19:35] <bagoj> ...572,014,592 bytes
[19:36] <MonthOLDpickle> thats the correct size
[19:36] <MonthOLDpickle> hummm I can't really help you there
[19:36] <bioterror> cd's should boot without a problem
[19:36] <MonthOLDpickle> I could suggest making a Bootable USB one and trying that
[19:36] <bioterror> if you have burned it properly
[19:37] <bagoj> :-( I'm quite new for this, I thought there are safe boot options that I could use
[19:37] <MonthOLDpickle> I always do USB boots
[19:37] <MonthOLDpickle> There is thats the try without installing
[19:37] <MonthOLDpickle> Do you have a spare USB you can use?
[19:37] <MonthOLDpickle> USB flash drive thingy
[19:37] <MonthOLDpickle> thats 1GB +
[19:38] <bioterror> if you can boot USB media
[19:38] <bioterror> some older pc's cannot
[19:38] <bagoj> OK then, I'm trying with universal usb installer, and got back in a couple of minutes :-)
[19:38] <MonthOLDpickle> okay
[19:38] <bagoj> I have a quite new notebook, it's 1,5 years old and have no problem with USB booting
[19:38] <MonthOLDpickle> which netbook
[19:38] <MonthOLDpickle> err notebook
[19:38] <bioterror> bagoj, awesome
[19:38] <bioterror> hmm
[19:39] <bioterror> bagoj, Unetbootin is kick ass for the installation media
[19:39] <bagoj> It's an ASUS f50s
[19:39] <MonthOLDpickle> pendrive usb universal is what I use in windows and unetbootin in linux
[19:39] <bagoj> So far I have Windows but it might change very soon. ;-)
[19:40] <bagoj> I'll check usb boot and get back, thank you!
[19:41] <MonthOLDpickle> Also USB booting saves resources lol
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[20:03] <czz> firmware-b43-installer
[20:03] <czz> Setting up firmware-b43-installer (4.150.10.5-4) ...
[20:03] <czz> Not supported low-power chip with PCI id 14e4:4315!
[20:03] <czz> Aborting.
[20:03] <czz> dpkg: error processing firmware-b43-installer (--configure):
[20:03] <czz> i get this error everytime i install any updates
[20:05] <szczur> sudo apt-get purge firmware-b43-installer
[20:05] <szczur> before confirming please pastebin the output
[20:06] <szczur> eg. paste the text here > pastebin.com
[20:06] <czz> okay
[20:07] <czz> i also get an error when i try to install my wireless firmware
[20:07] <czz> the driver
[20:07] <bioterror> I noticed
[20:07] <bioterror> I have in my work hp laptops with same chipset
[20:07] <czz> interesting
[20:07] <szczur> so bioterror, no he's in your hands :>
[20:08] <szczur> now*
[20:08] <bioterror> no no
[20:08] <szczur> YES YES!
[20:08] <czz> :(
[20:08] <bioterror> I just booted once with my pendrive
[20:08] <bioterror> I dont have much experience on this one yet
[20:08] <bioterror> been too busy to play around :-)
[20:08] <szczur> and i have none
[20:09] <szczur> czz, and what with that output?
[20:09] <czz> let me pastebin
[20:09] <bioterror> somwehere around next week I might have time to check more those broadcoms
[20:10] <czz> szczur, http://pastebin.com/eJtU3yCG
[20:11] <szczur> ahh, only one package
[20:11] <szczur> so you can do it safely :)
[20:11] <czz> alright, thanks
[21:15] <mmaksimov> Hi, gang! After upgrading Lubuntu 10.04 to 10.10 I'm unable to create panel launcher for pcmanfm, though it starts normally if started from the menu. Any suggestions?
[21:33] <bagoj> Hello Everyone. It's me again, the guy who has problems booting from 10.10 livecd
[21:33] <bagoj>  I tried to boot from USB, and it's the same: after the menu I get blinking cursor at the upper left corner and that's all
[21:33] <bagoj> I deleted the "quiet splash" part from the boot options
[21:34] <bagoj> then I could see where it stops
[21:34] <bagoj> but I could not get further
[21:34] <bagoj> it's at the beginning of kernel init, I guess (I'm far from being an expert)
[21:35] <bagoj> it tells about EISA initialization, then cpu governor, then after "registered taskstats version 1" line it halts
[21:35] <bagoj> I downloaded Ubuntu 10.10, and it's the same
[21:36] <bagoj> so it must be the kernel (?)
[21:36] <MonthOLDpickle> I think there is a safe vga mode
[21:36] <MonthOLDpickle> don't ask me
[21:36] <MonthOLDpickle> lol
[21:36] <bagoj> lol :)
[21:36] <bagoj> No problem, I will google for it
[21:37] <enderwig> did you verify the md5 of the image you downloaded?
[21:37] <MonthOLDpickle> he mentioned before yes
[21:37] <enderwig> ok
[21:37] <bagoj> @enderwig: yes, I started with that
[21:37] <meetingology> bagoj: Error: "enderwig:" is not a valid command.
[21:38] <bagoj> yes, thanks, the ISO should be OK
[21:38] <bagoj> md5 and size match
[21:39] <bagoj> I guess Linux don't like my hardware. I tried 10.04 and 9.10 before, and it could not handle my ethernet card. Now I tried 10.10 and it is getting worse
[21:40] <mmaksimov> what hardware are you running on?
[21:41] <bagoj> It's an Asus F50S, the network card is an Atheros AR9285
[21:42] <bagoj> theoretically it is supported but I had no luck with it
[22:12] <Kurdistan> hey
[22:27] <Kurdistan> guys, I think it will be great if lubuntu lucis iso gets updated.
[22:27] <Kurdistan> like ubuntu lucid iso is ubuntu 10.04.1
[22:27] <Kurdistan> less update, better for the user and beginner.
[22:30] <Kurdistan> its not :) off-topic guys
[22:31] <MonthOLDpickle> I wouldn't know the difference
[22:31] <Kurdistan> its about user experience
[22:45] <MonthOLDpickle> explain
[22:45] <Kurdistan> I haved in the off-topic session
[22:45] <MonthOLDpickle> eh?
[22:45] <MonthOLDpickle> guessing lubuntu-offtopic
[22:47] <Kurdistan> yes
[22:47] <MonthOLDpickle> prob won't see it if I join it
[22:49] <file_not_found> helllo
[22:49] <MonthOLDpickle> hi
[22:50] <file_not_found> lubuntu works in amd 64 bits?
[22:50] <Kurdistan> file_not_found yes
[22:50] <Kurdistan> it works great under amd 64 bits
[22:50] <Kurdistan> :) I have it
[22:51] <phillw> file_not_found: if you want 'true' 64 bit, then you need a different kernal.
[22:51] <file_not_found> how?
[22:52] <Kurdistan> file_not_found you dont need 64 bits
[22:52] <Kurdistan> is it something speciell you want?
[22:52] <Kurdistan> but if you really want to try lxde edition with 64 bits take a look on lxde.org
[22:53] <phillw> It's not on the priority list, but can be done via https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp/MinimalInstall That will give you the 64Bit Kernel and then you can put Lubuntu on top.
[22:53] <Kurdistan> you can download and try it out
[22:53] <Kurdistan> it is debian based
[22:53] <phillw> file_not_found: all the instructions for doing so are on that link.
[22:54] <file_not_found> yes
[22:55] <file_not_found> what is the specific link of 64 bits lxde?
[22:56] <Kurdistan> take look on the link phillw gave you file_not_found
[22:57] <phillw> file_not_found: just follow the instructions to install the 64Bit Kernel, Lubuntu does not mind if it runs on 32 or 64 bit system.
[22:58] <file_not_found> first I should install lubuntu?
[22:58] <phillw> file_not_found: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp/MinimalInstall  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[22:58] <phillw> follow the instructions, they took a lot of making :)
[23:05] <file_not_found> i am not speaking english very well but
[23:06] <file_not_found> what is the file what have to download?
[23:06] <file_not_found> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick/main/installer-amd64/20100211ubuntu29/images/netboot/
[23:06] <phillw> file_not_found: what is your native language?
[23:06] <file_not_found> spanish
[23:06] <file_not_found> latin american
[23:06]  * phillw goes finds a spanish speaker 
[23:07] <phillw> Yes, that is the correct link
[23:07] <file_not_found> what is the file to download?
[23:13] <file_not_found> i found
[23:13] <file_not_found> thanks very much
[23:13] <file_not_found> gracias
[23:14] <file_not_found> totales
[23:14] <file_not_found> #lubuntu
[23:14] <file_not_found> i will try lubuntu soon
[23:15] <phillw> you are welcome, I'm sorry that I only do english; I did ask and there were no spanish speakers around.
[23:16] <Kurdistan> by dear lubuntu users. have nice time.
[23:23] <jumpingclear> In 10.04 pcmanfm showed the folders in my home partition in the bottom of the left hand panel. This doesn't happen in 10.10. Anyone know how to set this up?