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nigelbMorning folks :)03:04
doctormoHey nigelb, I have a new phone03:13
nigelbdoctormo: w00t, what make?03:15
pleia2nigelb asks the boring questions, what *color* is it?03:15
doctormonigelb: Samsung vibrant03:15
nigelbpleia2: HAHAHA03:16
pleia2those galaxy s phones look pretty slick03:16
nigelbNeat, android phone :)03:16
nigelbI realized its time I got one.03:16
nigelbIts nice to ssh from phone  :p03:17
pleia2yeah :)03:17
nigelbNever know when classroom needs help :)03:18
doctormoWell this one is pretty cool, best graphics chip of any on the market.03:26
nigelbI'm contemplating a sony xperia soon03:27
akgranerdoctormo, don't you love it!04:07
akgranerI have the same phone and I love it!!!04:07
akgranerdid I mention I love it04:07
nigelbabout thrice, yes :p04:08
vishi/m finally closing in on the kernel bug! \o/04:08
vishi'm*04:08
nigelbvish: got your / and ' mixeeed up all day?04:08
doctormoakgraner: It's a nice phone, still getting used to it.04:08
* doctormo goes back to watching avatar.04:08
akgraneron your phone?04:08
akgranerright04:09
doctormoyes ;)04:17
vishhmm, does lp not show kind changes?  like from file -> symlink04:19
vishalrighty, last kernel! and i can be sure where my bug is.. and bug JFo bout it ;p04:30
JFo:-/04:53
vishJFo¦ dont worry its not your fault :) , it is most likely this Ubuntu cherry-picked patch from airlie,  http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2630204:57
ubot2Freedesktop bug 26302 in Driver/Radeon "[M7 LW] desktop runs out of video memory on ATI Radeon Mobility 7500" [Major,New]04:57
vishits not accepted yet in mainline..04:57
JFo:-)04:58
paultagJFo, don't know if you caught this -- that bug with my netbook magic-ed away05:24
paultagJFo, thanks for being you :)05:24
paultagJFo, I closed out my report with details05:24
JFoI did see it, you were just away from IRC so my response went unseen :-)05:24
paultagJFo, :)05:24
JFoI'm glad it's fixed paultag :)05:25
paultagJFo, Me too, finally back on Ubuntu :)05:25
JFoheh, yep05:25
paultagI was having flashbacks, it was like I was in highschool all over again05:25
JFooh dear05:25
paultagsomethings never change in Debian :)05:25
paultagAnywho, I've killed off this cup of  tea, time for some sleep05:26
paultag'night :)05:26
JFosame here05:26
JFonight paultag05:26
dholbachGood morning!07:54
kim0Good morning fellas08:00
dholbachheya kim008:05
dholbachhey dpm08:05
kim0howdy dholbach dpm08:05
dpmgood morning dholbach, good morning kim008:06
dpmgood morning everyone!08:06
dpmDaviey, nice article and nice picture :) http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/opinion/ubuntu-10-10-the-release-cycle-in-review%E2%80%A6/09:01
Davieydpm: thanks :)09:44
nigelbmorning all!09:46
* nigelb o.O at Daviey's picture :P09:47
nigelbMorning all :)09:48
Davieynigelb: that picture is about 2 and half years old.09:49
nigelbDaviey: Aha :)09:49
DavieyInfact, it was taken at FOSDEM 2008 with the lovely Becky Hogge, former open rights group honcho.09:50
Davieyhttp://org.daviey.com/09:50
nigelbAh, the color version looks less Godfather-like09:51
czajkowskiGoooooooooooooooooood MORNING10:33
kim0czajkowski: hehe morning :)10:42
dpmgood morning nigelb and czajkowski10:45
nigelbGood morning czajkowski11:06
nigelbczajkowski: looks like its a really good morning :)11:06
nigelbMorning kim0 and dpm, having a good day?11:06
dpmnigelb, not, bad, not bad, and you?11:07
kim0nigelb: hey thanks .. how about you11:07
nigelbdpm: Almost 4 pm, looking forward to a quiet evening :)11:07
dpmnice :-)11:07
duanedesignmorning all12:11
* duanedesign cant decide what to work on today. Think i will write all my Todos on slips of paper and draw out of a hat :P12:14
nigelbduanedesign: good idea12:34
* JFo investigates developing a 'virtual hat' to save us the effort of having to write before we can see out of both eyes13:10
* JFo sips a cuppa13:10
* nigelb hands JFo caffeine IV13:14
JFoheh, thanks nigelb13:14
Pendulummmm... caffeine13:16
* JFo goes for another cup13:16
nigelbPendulum: None for you :)13:19
Pendulumnigelb: s'ok. i don't actually drink much caffeine :)13:21
akgranerPendulum - akgraner is powered caffeine and stubbornness..13:24
JFomore of the latter than former13:24
JFohmmm, thought that was my inside voice ;)13:24
* JFo is powered by anger and hate13:25
JFowell, that isn't true13:25
akgranerJFo, you are not13:25
JFo:)13:25
JFoI know, it sounded funnier in my head13:25
JFo:)13:25
dholbachhey jono13:28
jonohey dholbach13:28
nhandlerpleia2_: I just realized, I never said 'welcome back' to you yet ;) Welcome Back13:57
nigelbJFo is powered by beer, fish and chips, and the cake song14:18
JFoheh14:18
nigelbakgraner: ^^ ;)14:18
JFobeer, pie and that song14:18
nigelbHA!14:18
JFofish-n-chpis I only eat in a lue moon14:18
JFoblue*14:18
akgranerJFo, I have 7 letters of the english alphabet you can rearrange this morning to figure the sentiment I am wishing you :-P14:22
JFo:-/14:23
czajkowskiakgraner: not feeling the love over there are we14:29
akgranerczajkowski, hehe14:31
czajkowskibah no jono14:31
jcastrocjohnston: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/loco-directory/+spec/community-n-loco-directory-plans14:39
jcastrowhat's up with this?14:39
jcastroczajkowski: he's off until thursday14:39
czajkowskiahhh14:41
czajkowskifeck14:41
czajkowskithanks jcastro14:41
czajkowskijcastro: is the channel for the room Curacao 1+2  going to be Curacao 12  ??14:44
jcastro"12" is probably best14:44
czajkowskiok thanks14:44
czajkowskiblog post coming14:45
czajkowskijcastro: one last annoying question I promise today, where is the link to where sessions are streamed?14:45
jcastrono clue14:45
jcastroit'll be in remote participation I thought14:45
czajkowskihmm all I can find is http://summit.ubuntu.com/media/lifestream.html14:47
czajkowskihttp://icecast.ubuntu.com:8000/14:48
czajkowskigot it14:48
Pendulumjcastro: I think cjohnston is still off on his holiday. Maybe ask in -locoteams and Michael Hall might be able to help?14:48
jcastroI think only he can rename his own bp14:49
Pendulumah, right. I couldn't tell if you were asking for it to be renamed or if you were more generally asking what it was14:50
jcastroczajkowski: http://uds.ubuntu.com/participate/remote/14:51
AlanBelldo we know if the icecast server will be up in time for the keynote?14:52
AlanBellit is a critical component of http://ubingo.libertus.co.uk/14:53
czajkowskijcastro: http://www.lczajkowski.com/2010/10/19/how-to-remote-participate-at-uds-n-and-get-the-most-of-the-sessions/14:54
jcastroczajkowski: is anybody still using the track identica accounts?14:55
jcastroI would just tell people to follow #uds14:55
sensegood afternoon14:55
jcastroalso, I think jussi and them usually have the irc roomlist by now14:55
jcastromight want to ask14:55
jussiI havent yet created the rooms, but Im working on it, asked about the ilines today14:56
czajkowskijcastro: aye some do, problem is that tag isn't unique to us  so I tell folks to use both14:57
AlanBellhttp://summit.ubuntu.com/media/lifestream.html perhaps a little branding love and de-karmicisation could happen here14:57
jcastroczajkowski: uds-n perhaps?14:57
czajkowski - dont appear in tags14:59
* czajkowski loves the locoteams tag 15:00
czajkowskiit's ours :D15:00
jcastroDaviey: any idea why my roundtables aren't purple? See monday for example15:01
Davieyjcastro: one moment15:04
Davieyhmm... jcastro i see a purple roundtable15:25
Davieyon Monday15:25
Davieyfor ubuntu the project15:25
jcastrooh dude15:25
jcastroit sorted itself15:26
jcastroI see, I must have scheduled it and then it ran and sorted it15:26
jcastrobrillianty15:26
Daviey\o/15:26
jcastroduanedesign: I owe you much beer15:55
JFodholbach, you want to see a photo? :)16:03
dholbachJFo, yes16:03
JFodholbach, http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1682438420036&set=a.1109332452745.148164.120984016216:03
JFojust came in today16:03
dholbachJFo, YEeeeeeehaw! :)16:03
JFoheh16:03
* dholbach hugs JFo16:03
JFoI'm testing them before I pack them up16:04
* JFo hugs dholbach 16:04
dholbachexcellent :)16:04
JFothis one sounds great16:04
JFoI'm assembling the other one16:04
dholbachgood work16:04
JFowe may run out of real estate on the table though :-/16:04
dholbachwe'll figure something out16:04
JFothese things are rather large16:04
JFoyeah16:04
JFono worries16:04
* dholbach rushes out for a lil bit - brb16:05
nigelbJFo: dammit!16:12
JFo?16:12
* nigelb won't be there :/16:12
JFoah16:13
JFowell, that is ok, maybe next time16:13
JFoI hate that you can't be there, but what is there to do :-/16:13
nigelbI now have to figure out an excuse to be at home for a week16:13
nigelbhrm, I already got chickenpox once16:14
nigelbsmallpox is too rare these days :/16:14
nigelbJFo: oh, it looks lovely btw :)16:15
duanedesignnigelb: :)16:15
JFonigelb, :)16:15
duanedesignJFo: what is the photo of16:17
duanedesignme no see it :(16:17
JFoone sec duanedesign16:17
JFoduanedesign, try this one http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=1865938&l=4c34e37598&id=120984016216:17
nigelbduanedesign: http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs773.snc4/67379_1682438420036_1209840162_1865938_1336276_n.jpg16:18
duanedesignJFo: oh wow!16:18
JFo:)16:18
jussijcastro: why do we have curacao 1 and curacao 1+2?16:18
JFoduanedesign, http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=1865936&l=9a0b8402f6&id=120984016216:19
JFoalso16:19
duanedesignJFo: what is the columbia record, some jazz?16:19
jcastrojussi: yes, just make it "curacao-1-2" or something16:19
jussiok16:20
jussiso its one and the same?16:20
JFoduanedesign, Frank Sinatra16:20
duanedesignJFo: ahhh, right16:20
duanedesigni did it mymymymymymy way :)16:21
JFoheh16:21
JFoyeah16:21
JFoI like listening to Frank every now and again16:21
JFoplus he was handy to test the sound on the new tables16:21
nlawsonhello from cincinnati16:28
nlawsoni was directed here from #ubuntu16:28
nlawsonI was told to talk to you about television pilot ideas that would be in support of the Ubuntu community16:29
JFonlawson, you are in the right place16:29
nlawsonwonderful16:29
nlawsonim as serious as breathing16:29
JFoexcellent16:29
JFoI am sure one of the community team in here would love to talk with you about it16:30
JFo:)16:30
nlawsoni am in charge of facilitating a complete transition from an enmeshment of windows and mac oses to a complete open source solution16:30
nlawsonubuntu has my undivided attention16:30
nlawsonthe fact that you can customize it from within16:30
nlawsonthe fact that it makes it easy to work with vetted software ( i assume it is vetted ) makes it very appealing to me16:31
nlawsonand i got it to run on a random monitor and a $75 dell computer16:31
nlawsonthat impresses the hell out of me16:31
JFothat is great to hear! :)16:31
JFoI'll leave it to the team to chat with you16:32
nlawsonthank you16:32
JFoI need to step away for a bit16:32
nlawsonokay16:32
JFonlawson, no problem16:32
nlawsoni would be very interested to help create an educational video whose purpose would be to educate school systems, non profit organizations, and public government organizations about the beauty that Ubuntu offers16:33
nlawsonhow does the ubuntu community team feel about that?16:34
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duanedesignnlawson: i think that is a great idea16:45
duanedesignnlawson: i think everyone is busy preparing for our Developer Summit which starts next week. But if you can idle around i am sure you can get some input16:46
pleia2a video doesn't currently exist, but I know dinda was working on some educational-aimed pdfs16:46
* duanedesign waves at pleia2 16:46
pleia2g'day duanedesign16:46
AlanBellnlawson: tell us a bit about you and your organisation16:47
nigelbAlanBell: any news of wiki update?16:56
AlanBellnigelb: nope16:59
AlanBell07:15 < AlanBell> newz2000: what is the status of the wiki theme now?16:59
AlanBell14:31 < newz2000> AlanBell: I'm not certain, I've got to find an answer to that myself today16:59
nigelbAlanBell: GAH17:00
nigelbI'm hlding off on a view wiki work jobs I've volunteeered to do just because of that :/17:00
nigelb*few wiki17:00
dholbachok my friends, I'm calling it a day17:01
dholbachsee you all tomorrow!17:01
* dholbach hugs you all17:02
nigelbdholbach: night :)17:02
dholbachbye nigelb17:02
dindanlawson: Hi, I'm interested in this idea, what organisation are you with?17:05
dindanlawson: I work for Canonical, covering Education17:06
nlawsonI work for Media Bridges17:06
nlawsonnicholas@mediabridges.org17:06
nlawsonDinda, what is a vision you have for how Ubuntu can be of benefit to the Education system?17:06
nlawsoni see it as lowering costs and creating a saturation situation17:07
nlawsonwhere if Ubuntu is the baseline operating system for a generation17:07
nlawsondividends will appear with time17:07
dindanlawson: it's not just about the costs but showing that open source methodology matching open learning methodology. . .17:08
dindanlawson: http://dindafoss.wordpress.com/17:08
nlawsonthere was an article today about wikipedia centered ideology for education17:08
nlawsonyou are an author/blogger?17:09
nlawsondinda17:09
dindanlawson: I am :)17:09
nlawsonthat is a wonderful past time to enjoy17:09
nlawsonwww.newsonthehill.com17:09
nigelbdinda: I see you had an interesting trip to Malaysia :)17:09
nlawsonim a young writer at that hyperlocal site17:09
nlawsonDinda is not to be fucked with17:10
nlawsonlol17:10
nlawsonyour blog is exactly what i am looking for at this point in my work17:10
dindanlawson: actually been considering trying to do a documentary about some of schools currently using Ubuntu17:10
nlawsondinda17:10
nlawsondinda: really what would be the focus of the documentary?17:11
dindanlawson: showing how empowering it is when you put this kind of technology into kids hands17:12
nlawsonhow does the administration feel about a OS change?17:12
nlawsondo they see the bigger picture or do they just see the immediate numbers?17:12
dindanlawson: they are the ones driving it :)17:12
dindathe governement policies are very FOSS friendly, have their own R&D agency just to find FOSS solutions17:13
nlawsoni technically work for the government17:14
jussinlawson: in ubuntu namespace channels we appreciate it if you watch the language and keep it family friendly (ie. no swearing please)17:14
dindaMS is now offering to give them XP for free but English-only, with Ubuntu we can let them translate it17:14
nlawsoni do apologize for my poor vocabulary17:14
nlawsoni am terrible at IRC chats .. how difficult is it to enter into a real world situation with an ubuntu visionary that I could gain insight from into the FOSS world?17:16
AlanBellnlawson: are you in touch with your loco team?17:19
nlawsonyes I am waiting to hear back from the ERK17:19
nlawsonhe is a very busy man17:19
AlanBellmaybe email your loco mailing list to find someone in your area17:20
jussijcastro: you about?17:20
nlawsonAlanBell: I will do that17:20
nlawsonI try to move as fast as people get back to me17:20
AlanBellCincinnati is in Ohio?17:21
nlawsonhe is up for a leadership position within ohio ubuntu from what I can tell17:21
nlawsonCincinnati is in Ohio17:21
AlanBell#ubuntu-us-oh might be the irc channel to poke people in17:21
nlawsonthank you17:21
AlanBellhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-us-oh/17:21
AlanBellwould be the mailing list17:22
AlanBellnot a very active list by the looks of things17:22
nigelbw00t, 1000 votes on http://bugs.developers.facebook.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1304017:35
ubot2bugs.developers.facebook.net bug 13040 in [Old] Rest API "Desktop app failing, API_EC_TOO_MANY_CALLS breaks Ubuntu" [Critical,New]17:35
nigelbok, I'm impressed very much that ubot just parsed that17:36
* nigelb hugs jussi and rest of bot devel team17:36
jussi:D17:37
jcastrojussi: yeah17:43
czajkowskiOhio is up for renewal this week17:51
czajkowskitalk to paultag that's his loco17:51
jcastrois it possible to vote against a team based on that it's ohio?17:51
jussihahaha17:51
pleia2hah17:51
czajkowskilol17:52
pleia2so, there is a change on the CC (someone is stepping down and we're replacing them with the next on the list from the vote last year), what mailing list(s) should I post this announcement to?17:52
czajkowskilocoteams17:53
pleia2putting it up on ubuntu-news.org too, of course17:53
czajkowskiand -devel ?17:53
pleia2probably -news-team too17:54
pleia2looks like mark emailed -devel-announce for the initial CC announcement last year17:56
pleia2yeah, so -devel-announce and -news-team17:57
jussiWhy are you not having a new poll? ( by-election) so to speak?17:58
pleia2don't want to risk voter fatigue17:58
pleia2and condorcet is good for this kind of thing17:59
jussihrm, so the replace ment is coming in for just the remainder of term or getting a full term of their own?17:59
pleia2remainder17:59
jussiok :)17:59
czajkowskinhandler: you have a topic on the loco council agenda will you be there this week ?18:01
czajkowskipleia2: aye makes sense tbh re filling in the spot the way ye are tbh18:01
czajkowskiI think it's good not to tire or confuse people with unnecessary elections tbh18:02
AlanBellit makes sense and I can't see a conflict with http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/governance however it might be worth documenting the procedure somewhere in case it gets used again18:03
pleia2AlanBell: agreed18:03
jussiAlanBell: +118:04
AlanBellthe whole nomination/shortlisting process is insufficiently well documented at the moment, possibly as a result of the ubuntu.com changes18:09
pleia2https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncil/Restaffing is where you should be looking for that18:16
pleia2and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncil/Delegation18:16
AlanBellah, missed that one18:16
pleia2(these are both linked from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncil)18:17
pleia2so we should update /Restaffing with a note about people stepping down mid-term and the process for filling the spot when condorcet voting is used18:18
AlanBellyup18:21
doctormoArg, so many regressions in the apps I use! Why did the empathy developers take away /msg from irc?18:23
doctormoIt's like I can't DO anything any more without some developer making it harder.18:23
AlanBellpleia2: PM?18:25
pleia2AlanBell: anytime18:25
* nigelb hands doctormo best hostname award18:28
nigelbwargames!18:28
czajkowskihmmm some naughty teams not replying to re approval emails18:29
czajkowski>:(18:29
* nigelb hugs czajkowski 18:30
czajkowskithen they wonder why they'll get unapproved18:30
czajkowskiand it's not the first mail they;ve received either18:30
czajkowskigrrr18:30
nigelbjcastro: poke?19:09
jcastroyo19:09
nigelbgot a min for a PM?19:09
jcastrono19:09
jcastrojust mail me please19:09
nigelbok :)19:10
* nigelb mailed19:11
jcastronigelb: scheduling things go to jono19:15
nigelbjcastro: arg19:16
nigelbjcastro: will forward19:16
nigelbjcastro: thanks19:17
pleia2yay @ translating CoC20:17
nisshhpleia2, i thought for sure it would have been suggested years ago *scratches head*20:18
pleia2it certainly has been talked about20:18
nisshhyeah20:18
pleia2but no one owned it until now20:19
nisshhi see20:19
paultaghey AlanBell20:24
AlanBellhey paultag20:25
paultagAlanBell, yeah, so what was going on with Ohio?20:25
AlanBellit contains cincinatti20:25
czajkowskipaultag: hey buddy20:25
paultagczajkowski, :)20:25
paultagAlanBell, it sure does20:26
AlanBellwhere nlawson who popped in comes from20:26
paultagAh, yes. He's working down there :)20:27
paultagAlanBell, FYI, our loco has an odd setup with the MLs. We use LP. Vorian set it up funny when he led Ohio20:31
AlanBellah ok20:31
* AlanBell is looking forward to the now inevitable elk carcass photo from vorian20:32
paultagheh :)20:33
czajkowskithe waht now ?20:33
paultagOh nothing :)20:39
czajkowskipaultag: be nice to me I've to vote later on :p20:41
paultaghaha :)20:41
czajkowskinhandler: poke you've an agenda item up for the 2nd month in a row are you about to discuss it ?21:00
czajkowskipleia2: what would be the closest area/state/loco to connecticut ?22:43
pleia2Mass22:45
pleia2new york borders it too22:45
czajkowskiok thanks22:46
czajkowskifeck just noticed it's some sort of dress up on the friday night22:57
czajkowskiat uds22:57
doctormoczajkowski: what kind?23:07
czajkowskihttp://paste.ubuntu.com/516496/23:10
Technovikingno All-Stars?23:37
czajkowskimaybe as well ?23:37
nhandlerI'm seeing a few emails on their ML from the past few days: https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-allstars/23:38
czajkowskiwhile I do like allstars it does seperate people from mingling during the week23:40
czajkowskiI thought it was a lot more fun with just karaoke and more people got involved23:41
Technovikingczajkowski: the karoke in Barcelona was the best23:42
czajkowskiaye it really was23:43
czajkowskiand more people got up there then at an all stars23:43
TechnovikingOrlando has a mega coustume store, people should try to go there for a costume23:44
czajkowskiTechnoviking: although celine dion will forever haunt me23:44
Technovikingczajkowski: lol23:45
Technovikingnear, far, where ever you are:)23:46
czajkowskiwhat was the other one23:47
czajkowskiI got my soul....23:47
czajkowskiI got soul even23:48

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