[03:04] Morning folks :) [03:13] Hey nigelb, I have a new phone [03:15] doctormo: w00t, what make? [03:15] nigelb asks the boring questions, what *color* is it? [03:15] nigelb: Samsung vibrant [03:16] pleia2: HAHAHA [03:16] those galaxy s phones look pretty slick [03:16] Neat, android phone :) [03:16] I realized its time I got one. [03:17] Its nice to ssh from phone :p [03:17] yeah :) [03:18] Never know when classroom needs help :) [03:26] Well this one is pretty cool, best graphics chip of any on the market. [03:27] I'm contemplating a sony xperia soon [04:07] doctormo, don't you love it! [04:07] I have the same phone and I love it!!! [04:07] did I mention I love it [04:08] about thrice, yes :p [04:08] i/m finally closing in on the kernel bug! \o/ [04:08] i'm* [04:08] vish: got your / and ' mixeeed up all day? [04:08] akgraner: It's a nice phone, still getting used to it. [04:08] * doctormo goes back to watching avatar. [04:08] on your phone? [04:09] right [04:17] yes ;) [04:19] hmm, does lp not show kind changes? like from file -> symlink [04:30] alrighty, last kernel! and i can be sure where my bug is.. and bug JFo bout it ;p [04:53] :-/ [04:57] JFo¦ dont worry its not your fault :) , it is most likely this Ubuntu cherry-picked patch from airlie, http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26302 [04:57] Freedesktop bug 26302 in Driver/Radeon "[M7 LW] desktop runs out of video memory on ATI Radeon Mobility 7500" [Major,New] [04:57] its not accepted yet in mainline.. [04:58] :-) [05:24] JFo, don't know if you caught this -- that bug with my netbook magic-ed away [05:24] JFo, thanks for being you :) [05:24] JFo, I closed out my report with details [05:24] I did see it, you were just away from IRC so my response went unseen :-) [05:24] JFo, :) [05:25] I'm glad it's fixed paultag :) [05:25] JFo, Me too, finally back on Ubuntu :) [05:25] heh, yep [05:25] I was having flashbacks, it was like I was in highschool all over again [05:25] oh dear [05:25] somethings never change in Debian :) [05:26] Anywho, I've killed off this cup of tea, time for some sleep [05:26] 'night :) [05:26] same here [05:26] night paultag [07:54] Good morning! [08:00] Good morning fellas [08:05] heya kim0 [08:05] hey dpm [08:05] howdy dholbach dpm [08:06] good morning dholbach, good morning kim0 [08:06] good morning everyone! [09:01] Daviey, nice article and nice picture :) http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/opinion/ubuntu-10-10-the-release-cycle-in-review%E2%80%A6/ [09:44] dpm: thanks :) [09:46] morning all! [09:47] * nigelb o.O at Daviey's picture :P [09:48] Morning all :) [09:49] nigelb: that picture is about 2 and half years old. [09:49] Daviey: Aha :) [09:50] Infact, it was taken at FOSDEM 2008 with the lovely Becky Hogge, former open rights group honcho. [09:50] http://org.daviey.com/ [09:51] Ah, the color version looks less Godfather-like [10:33] Goooooooooooooooooood MORNING [10:42] czajkowski: hehe morning :) [10:45] good morning nigelb and czajkowski [11:06] Good morning czajkowski [11:06] czajkowski: looks like its a really good morning :) [11:06] Morning kim0 and dpm, having a good day? [11:07] nigelb, not, bad, not bad, and you? [11:07] nigelb: hey thanks .. how about you [11:07] dpm: Almost 4 pm, looking forward to a quiet evening :) [11:07] nice :-) [12:11] morning all [12:14] * duanedesign cant decide what to work on today. Think i will write all my Todos on slips of paper and draw out of a hat :P [12:34] duanedesign: good idea [13:10] * JFo investigates developing a 'virtual hat' to save us the effort of having to write before we can see out of both eyes [13:10] * JFo sips a cuppa [13:14] * nigelb hands JFo caffeine IV [13:14] heh, thanks nigelb [13:16] mmm... caffeine [13:16] * JFo goes for another cup [13:19] Pendulum: None for you :) [13:21] nigelb: s'ok. i don't actually drink much caffeine :) [13:24] Pendulum - akgraner is powered caffeine and stubbornness.. [13:24] more of the latter than former [13:24] hmmm, thought that was my inside voice ;) [13:25] * JFo is powered by anger and hate [13:25] well, that isn't true [13:25] JFo, you are not [13:25] :) [13:25] I know, it sounded funnier in my head [13:25] :) [13:28] hey jono [13:28] hey dholbach [13:57] pleia2_: I just realized, I never said 'welcome back' to you yet ;) Welcome Back [14:18] JFo is powered by beer, fish and chips, and the cake song [14:18] heh [14:18] akgraner: ^^ ;) [14:18] beer, pie and that song [14:18] HA! [14:18] fish-n-chpis I only eat in a lue moon [14:18] blue* [14:22] JFo, I have 7 letters of the english alphabet you can rearrange this morning to figure the sentiment I am wishing you :-P [14:23] :-/ [14:29] akgraner: not feeling the love over there are we [14:31] czajkowski, hehe [14:31] bah no jono [14:39] cjohnston: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/loco-directory/+spec/community-n-loco-directory-plans [14:39] what's up with this? [14:39] czajkowski: he's off until thursday [14:41] ahhh [14:41] feck [14:41] thanks jcastro [14:44] jcastro: is the channel for the room Curacao 1+2 going to be Curacao 12 ?? [14:44] "12" is probably best [14:44] ok thanks [14:45] blog post coming [14:45] jcastro: one last annoying question I promise today, where is the link to where sessions are streamed? [14:45] no clue [14:45] it'll be in remote participation I thought [14:47] hmm all I can find is http://summit.ubuntu.com/media/lifestream.html [14:48] http://icecast.ubuntu.com:8000/ [14:48] got it [14:48] jcastro: I think cjohnston is still off on his holiday. Maybe ask in -locoteams and Michael Hall might be able to help? [14:49] I think only he can rename his own bp [14:50] ah, right. I couldn't tell if you were asking for it to be renamed or if you were more generally asking what it was [14:51] czajkowski: http://uds.ubuntu.com/participate/remote/ [14:52] do we know if the icecast server will be up in time for the keynote? [14:53] it is a critical component of http://ubingo.libertus.co.uk/ [14:54] jcastro: http://www.lczajkowski.com/2010/10/19/how-to-remote-participate-at-uds-n-and-get-the-most-of-the-sessions/ [14:55] czajkowski: is anybody still using the track identica accounts? [14:55] I would just tell people to follow #uds [14:55] good afternoon [14:55] also, I think jussi and them usually have the irc roomlist by now [14:55] might want to ask [14:56] I havent yet created the rooms, but Im working on it, asked about the ilines today [14:57] jcastro: aye some do, problem is that tag isn't unique to us so I tell folks to use both [14:57] http://summit.ubuntu.com/media/lifestream.html perhaps a little branding love and de-karmicisation could happen here [14:57] czajkowski: uds-n perhaps? [14:59] - dont appear in tags [15:00] * czajkowski loves the locoteams tag [15:00] it's ours :D [15:01] Daviey: any idea why my roundtables aren't purple? See monday for example [15:04] jcastro: one moment [15:25] hmm... jcastro i see a purple roundtable [15:25] on Monday [15:25] for ubuntu the project [15:25] oh dude [15:26] it sorted itself [15:26] I see, I must have scheduled it and then it ran and sorted it [15:26] brillianty [15:26] \o/ [15:55] duanedesign: I owe you much beer [16:03] dholbach, you want to see a photo? :) [16:03] JFo, yes [16:03] dholbach, http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1682438420036&set=a.1109332452745.148164.1209840162 [16:03] just came in today [16:03] JFo, YEeeeeeehaw! :) [16:03] heh [16:03] * dholbach hugs JFo [16:04] I'm testing them before I pack them up [16:04] * JFo hugs dholbach [16:04] excellent :) [16:04] this one sounds great [16:04] I'm assembling the other one [16:04] good work [16:04] we may run out of real estate on the table though :-/ [16:04] we'll figure something out [16:04] these things are rather large [16:04] yeah [16:04] no worries [16:05] * dholbach rushes out for a lil bit - brb [16:12] JFo: dammit! [16:12] ? [16:12] * nigelb won't be there :/ [16:13] ah [16:13] well, that is ok, maybe next time [16:13] I hate that you can't be there, but what is there to do :-/ [16:13] I now have to figure out an excuse to be at home for a week [16:14] hrm, I already got chickenpox once [16:14] smallpox is too rare these days :/ [16:15] JFo: oh, it looks lovely btw :) [16:15] nigelb: :) [16:15] nigelb, :) [16:17] JFo: what is the photo of [16:17] me no see it :( [16:17] one sec duanedesign [16:17] duanedesign, try this one http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=1865938&l=4c34e37598&id=1209840162 [16:18] duanedesign: http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs773.snc4/67379_1682438420036_1209840162_1865938_1336276_n.jpg [16:18] JFo: oh wow! [16:18] :) [16:18] jcastro: why do we have curacao 1 and curacao 1+2? [16:19] duanedesign, http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=1865936&l=9a0b8402f6&id=1209840162 [16:19] also [16:19] JFo: what is the columbia record, some jazz? [16:19] jussi: yes, just make it "curacao-1-2" or something [16:20] ok [16:20] so its one and the same? [16:20] duanedesign, Frank Sinatra [16:20] JFo: ahhh, right [16:21] i did it mymymymymymy way :) [16:21] heh [16:21] yeah [16:21] I like listening to Frank every now and again [16:21] plus he was handy to test the sound on the new tables [16:28] hello from cincinnati [16:28] i was directed here from #ubuntu [16:29] I was told to talk to you about television pilot ideas that would be in support of the Ubuntu community [16:29] nlawson, you are in the right place [16:29] wonderful [16:29] im as serious as breathing [16:29] excellent [16:30] I am sure one of the community team in here would love to talk with you about it [16:30] :) [16:30] i am in charge of facilitating a complete transition from an enmeshment of windows and mac oses to a complete open source solution [16:30] ubuntu has my undivided attention [16:30] the fact that you can customize it from within [16:31] the fact that it makes it easy to work with vetted software ( i assume it is vetted ) makes it very appealing to me [16:31] and i got it to run on a random monitor and a $75 dell computer [16:31] that impresses the hell out of me [16:31] that is great to hear! :) [16:32] I'll leave it to the team to chat with you [16:32] thank you [16:32] I need to step away for a bit [16:32] okay [16:32] nlawson, no problem [16:33] i would be very interested to help create an educational video whose purpose would be to educate school systems, non profit organizations, and public government organizations about the beauty that Ubuntu offers [16:34] how does the ubuntu community team feel about that? === pleia2_ is now known as pleia2 [16:45] nlawson: i think that is a great idea [16:46] nlawson: i think everyone is busy preparing for our Developer Summit which starts next week. But if you can idle around i am sure you can get some input [16:46] a video doesn't currently exist, but I know dinda was working on some educational-aimed pdfs [16:46] * duanedesign waves at pleia2 [16:46] g'day duanedesign [16:47] nlawson: tell us a bit about you and your organisation [16:56] AlanBell: any news of wiki update? [16:59] nigelb: nope [16:59] 07:15 < AlanBell> newz2000: what is the status of the wiki theme now? [16:59] 14:31 < newz2000> AlanBell: I'm not certain, I've got to find an answer to that myself today [17:00] AlanBell: GAH [17:00] I'm hlding off on a view wiki work jobs I've volunteeered to do just because of that :/ [17:00] *few wiki [17:01] ok my friends, I'm calling it a day [17:01] see you all tomorrow! [17:02] * dholbach hugs you all [17:02] dholbach: night :) [17:02] bye nigelb [17:05] nlawson: Hi, I'm interested in this idea, what organisation are you with? [17:06] nlawson: I work for Canonical, covering Education [17:06] I work for Media Bridges [17:06] nicholas@mediabridges.org [17:06] Dinda, what is a vision you have for how Ubuntu can be of benefit to the Education system? [17:07] i see it as lowering costs and creating a saturation situation [17:07] where if Ubuntu is the baseline operating system for a generation [17:07] dividends will appear with time [17:08] nlawson: it's not just about the costs but showing that open source methodology matching open learning methodology. . . [17:08] nlawson: http://dindafoss.wordpress.com/ [17:08] there was an article today about wikipedia centered ideology for education [17:09] you are an author/blogger? [17:09] dinda [17:09] nlawson: I am :) [17:09] that is a wonderful past time to enjoy [17:09] www.newsonthehill.com [17:09] dinda: I see you had an interesting trip to Malaysia :) [17:09] im a young writer at that hyperlocal site [17:10] Dinda is not to be fucked with [17:10] lol [17:10] your blog is exactly what i am looking for at this point in my work [17:10] nlawson: actually been considering trying to do a documentary about some of schools currently using Ubuntu [17:10] dinda [17:11] dinda: really what would be the focus of the documentary? [17:12] nlawson: showing how empowering it is when you put this kind of technology into kids hands [17:12] how does the administration feel about a OS change? [17:12] do they see the bigger picture or do they just see the immediate numbers? [17:12] nlawson: they are the ones driving it :) [17:13] the governement policies are very FOSS friendly, have their own R&D agency just to find FOSS solutions [17:14] i technically work for the government [17:14] nlawson: in ubuntu namespace channels we appreciate it if you watch the language and keep it family friendly (ie. no swearing please) [17:14] MS is now offering to give them XP for free but English-only, with Ubuntu we can let them translate it [17:14] i do apologize for my poor vocabulary [17:16] i am terrible at IRC chats .. how difficult is it to enter into a real world situation with an ubuntu visionary that I could gain insight from into the FOSS world? [17:19] nlawson: are you in touch with your loco team? [17:19] yes I am waiting to hear back from the ERK [17:19] he is a very busy man [17:20] maybe email your loco mailing list to find someone in your area [17:20] jcastro: you about? [17:20] AlanBell: I will do that [17:20] I try to move as fast as people get back to me [17:21] Cincinnati is in Ohio? [17:21] he is up for a leadership position within ohio ubuntu from what I can tell [17:21] Cincinnati is in Ohio [17:21] #ubuntu-us-oh might be the irc channel to poke people in [17:21] thank you [17:21] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-us-oh/ [17:22] would be the mailing list [17:22] not a very active list by the looks of things [17:35] w00t, 1000 votes on http://bugs.developers.facebook.net/show_bug.cgi?id=13040 [17:35] bugs.developers.facebook.net bug 13040 in [Old] Rest API "Desktop app failing, API_EC_TOO_MANY_CALLS breaks Ubuntu" [Critical,New] [17:36] ok, I'm impressed very much that ubot just parsed that [17:36] * nigelb hugs jussi and rest of bot devel team [17:37] :D [17:43] jussi: yeah [17:51] Ohio is up for renewal this week [17:51] talk to paultag that's his loco [17:51] is it possible to vote against a team based on that it's ohio? [17:51] hahaha [17:51] hah [17:52] lol [17:52] so, there is a change on the CC (someone is stepping down and we're replacing them with the next on the list from the vote last year), what mailing list(s) should I post this announcement to? [17:53] locoteams [17:53] putting it up on ubuntu-news.org too, of course [17:53] and -devel ? [17:54] probably -news-team too [17:56] looks like mark emailed -devel-announce for the initial CC announcement last year [17:57] yeah, so -devel-announce and -news-team [17:58] Why are you not having a new poll? ( by-election) so to speak? [17:58] don't want to risk voter fatigue [17:59] and condorcet is good for this kind of thing [17:59] hrm, so the replace ment is coming in for just the remainder of term or getting a full term of their own? [17:59] remainder [17:59] ok :) [18:01] nhandler: you have a topic on the loco council agenda will you be there this week ? [18:01] pleia2: aye makes sense tbh re filling in the spot the way ye are tbh [18:02] I think it's good not to tire or confuse people with unnecessary elections tbh [18:03] it makes sense and I can't see a conflict with http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/governance however it might be worth documenting the procedure somewhere in case it gets used again [18:03] AlanBell: agreed [18:04] AlanBell: +1 [18:09] the whole nomination/shortlisting process is insufficiently well documented at the moment, possibly as a result of the ubuntu.com changes [18:16] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncil/Restaffing is where you should be looking for that [18:16] and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncil/Delegation [18:16] ah, missed that one [18:17] (these are both linked from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncil) [18:18] so we should update /Restaffing with a note about people stepping down mid-term and the process for filling the spot when condorcet voting is used [18:21] yup [18:23] Arg, so many regressions in the apps I use! Why did the empathy developers take away /msg from irc? [18:23] It's like I can't DO anything any more without some developer making it harder. [18:25] pleia2: PM? [18:25] AlanBell: anytime [18:28] * nigelb hands doctormo best hostname award [18:28] wargames! [18:29] hmmm some naughty teams not replying to re approval emails [18:29] >:( [18:30] * nigelb hugs czajkowski [18:30] then they wonder why they'll get unapproved [18:30] and it's not the first mail they;ve received either [18:30] grrr [19:09] jcastro: poke? [19:09] yo [19:09] got a min for a PM? [19:09] no [19:09] just mail me please [19:10] ok :) [19:11] * nigelb mailed [19:15] nigelb: scheduling things go to jono [19:16] jcastro: arg [19:16] jcastro: will forward [19:17] jcastro: thanks [20:17] yay @ translating CoC [20:18] pleia2, i thought for sure it would have been suggested years ago *scratches head* [20:18] it certainly has been talked about [20:18] yeah [20:19] but no one owned it until now [20:19] i see [20:24] hey AlanBell [20:25] hey paultag [20:25] AlanBell, yeah, so what was going on with Ohio? [20:25] it contains cincinatti [20:25] paultag: hey buddy [20:25] czajkowski, :) [20:26] AlanBell, it sure does [20:26] where nlawson who popped in comes from [20:27] Ah, yes. He's working down there :) [20:31] AlanBell, FYI, our loco has an odd setup with the MLs. We use LP. Vorian set it up funny when he led Ohio [20:31] ah ok [20:32] * AlanBell is looking forward to the now inevitable elk carcass photo from vorian [20:33] heh :) [20:33] the waht now ? [20:39] Oh nothing :) [20:41] paultag: be nice to me I've to vote later on :p [20:41] haha :) [21:00] nhandler: poke you've an agenda item up for the 2nd month in a row are you about to discuss it ? [22:43] pleia2: what would be the closest area/state/loco to connecticut ? [22:45] Mass [22:45] new york borders it too [22:46] ok thanks [22:57] feck just noticed it's some sort of dress up on the friday night [22:57] at uds [23:07] czajkowski: what kind? [23:10] http://paste.ubuntu.com/516496/ [23:37] no All-Stars? [23:37] maybe as well ? [23:38] I'm seeing a few emails on their ML from the past few days: https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-allstars/ [23:40] while I do like allstars it does seperate people from mingling during the week [23:41] I thought it was a lot more fun with just karaoke and more people got involved [23:42] czajkowski: the karoke in Barcelona was the best [23:43] aye it really was [23:43] and more people got up there then at an all stars [23:44] Orlando has a mega coustume store, people should try to go there for a costume [23:44] Technoviking: although celine dion will forever haunt me [23:45] czajkowski: lol [23:46] near, far, where ever you are:) [23:47] what was the other one [23:47] I got my soul.... [23:48] I got soul even