[00:24] <kklimonda> can someone take a look at bug 658069 ?
[00:24] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 658069 in gvfs (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 2 other projects) "Empty files written over gvfs by some editors (affects: 29) (dups: 3) (heat: 120)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/658069
[00:38] <Cimi> I'm in Orlando!
[00:38] <Cimi> amazing place here guys
[00:40] <kklimonda> Cimi: how's the weather?
[00:40] <fagan> kklimonda: isnt it winter in florida this time of the year
[00:40] <fagan> so it should be cold and wet
[00:41] <kklimonda> fagan: how cold is cold for florida? ;)
[00:42] <fagan> well I mean like raining hurricane style cold ish time of the year
[00:42] <Cimi> kklimonda: sunshine
[00:42] <Cimi> now it's evening
[00:42] <kklimonda> this is actually a serious question - I still have to pack my bags ;)
[00:42] <Cimi> but the sky is clear
[00:42]  * RAOF opens a note for clothes packing.
[00:44]  * fagan always packs the wrong things when going international 
[01:04] <Cimi> kklimonda: 80°F/30°C
[01:05] <kklimonda> Cimi: holy...
[01:05] <Cimi> kklimonda: where are you from?
[01:05] <kklimonda> it's going to be fun
[01:05] <Cimi> kklimonda: there's a huge pool :)
[01:06] <kklimonda> Cimi: Poland, it's around 4C here at the moment :)
[01:06] <Cimi> kklimonda: so, it's like august in poland :)
[01:06] <kklimonda> right, and I've lived through one August this year ;)
[01:06] <Cimi> I'm from italy, the weather feels like june in my country
[01:06] <RAOF> Mmm, midsummer.
[01:06] <Tenyuu> does anyone know how to set shortcut keys to adjust backlight brightness? the only I can change my brightness is with the brightness applet, can anyone help me?
[01:07] <kklimonda> Cimi: right, you are better suited for this weather ;)
[01:08] <Cimi> kklimonda: are you coming tomorrow?
[01:10] <kklimonda> Cimi: no, I arrive at sunday as a part of our awesome community :)
[01:13] <Cimi> kklimonda: ok cool ;)
[06:18] <pitti> Good morning
[06:28]  * TheMuso sighs. Another big merge done. I aint a fan of them big merges.
[08:24] <ara> TheMuso, ping
[10:04] <dpm> hi mvo! Do you think it would be possible to have an aptdaemon maverick SRU with exported translations from Launchpad? They were not exported before release, and thus all authentication-related messages in Software Center appear untranslated. I've exported the translations from Launchpad and attached them to the bug to make it a bit easier to fix: bug 655642
[10:04] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 655642 in aptdaemon (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "Translations of .policy files were not exported (affects: 3) (dups: 2) (heat: 22)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/655642
[10:09] <mvo> dpm: yes
[10:10] <mvo> dpm: I can do this
[10:10] <mvo> dpm: and thanks for your work on this!
[10:10] <dpm> mvo, awesome, thanks!
[10:11] <mvo> yw!
[10:59] <dpm> hi all, could someone give a hand with bug 451673 for an SRU? Yelp needs translations to be built with the package to appear translated. I've attached the translations exported from LP to the bug to make it a bit easier to fix
[10:59] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 451673 in yelp (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Untranslated Yelp main page (Ubuntu Help Center) (affects: 3) (heat: 22)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/451673
[14:21] <cyphermox> hey
[14:24] <kenvandine> hey cyphermox
[14:24] <cyphermox> kenvandine, key
[14:32] <mvo> cyphermox: great work on synaptic, you rock!
[14:32] <mvo> cyphermox: I did some minor tweaks too, please merge from my branch too
[14:33] <cyphermox> ok!
[14:34] <cyphermox> it's still not all working though... I think there's still a lot missing (unless you already fixed all the combo boxes ;)
[14:34] <mvo> I mostly tweaks the stuff around, like configure.in and debian/rules and po etc
[14:34] <cyphermox> ah, cool
[14:34] <mvo> it bzr-buildpackage now fine
[15:13]  * pitti 0(*#$'s; how hard can it be to determine how wide a label text wants to be??
[15:19] <rickspencer3> pitti, having fun with gtk?
[15:19] <pitti> yes
[15:20] <rickspencer3> pitti, I thought there was a function to tell you a label's text's length in pixels
[15:20] <pitti> rickspencer3: there ought to be :)
[15:20] <rickspencer3> I seem to recall seeing it in reference docs somewhere, but don't think I ever did it
[15:30] <rodrigo_> today (in 2 hours) meeting, right?
[15:33] <mterry> pitti, in a height-for-width context, it can be hard.  You want to know how long it is without wrapping?  pango has a function for that I believe
[15:34] <pitti> mterry: I found something like gtk_label_get_layout() and then pango_layout_get_pixel_size (), I'm trying that now
[15:34] <mterry> pitti, if you're talking gtk2, I think you can just query how much width the label has requested (size_request)
[15:34] <pitti> mterry: already tried that, and it's always -1
[15:34] <mterry> pitti, sounds like the label hasn't "realized" itself yet
[15:34] <pitti> it is, I'm printing it on size changes, etc.
[15:35] <pitti> gtk_widget_get_allocation() is another possibility, but that gives me the actual size, not the one that the text would have
[15:35] <pitti> it's about the time/date string on the panel, and if I set the panel to vertical, it's chopped off
[15:35]  * pitti -> meeting now
[15:35] <mterry> pitti, hmm, I must be forgetting some reason it's -1.  but if no wrapping, pango layout is the way to go
[15:35] <pitti> mterry: ok, thanks
[15:38] <mvo> pitti: you might look at update-manager for a workaround for the missing height-for-width stuff with labels
[15:38] <pitti> actually, it seems that this works:
[15:39] <pitti>     pango_layout_get_pixel_size (gtk_label_get_layout (GTK_LABEL (datetime->date_label)), &w, &h);
[15:39] <kenvandine> facebook says they are going to stop ignoring developers... so please everyone go vote on http://is.gd/g8ce0
[15:39] <mterry> That won't include any widget or style padding or whatnot but yeah
[15:42] <chrisccoulson> kenvandine, i have to create an account to vote?
[15:42] <kenvandine> yeah... that sucks :/
[15:42] <kenvandine> you don't have to vote... but i really want as many votes as we can get :)
[15:43] <kklimonda> kenvandine: facebook seriously limits api calls per application and not per user/applicatin?
[15:43] <kenvandine> yes
[15:43] <kklimonda> that's.. insane
[15:43] <kenvandine> indeed!
[15:43] <ara> rickspencer3, can you please point me to some documentation on how to create quickly plugins?
[15:43] <kenvandine> and tons of people have complained and begged for help... but facebook just ignores it
[15:44] <kenvandine> however they now claim they are going to stop ignoring!
[15:44] <kenvandine> so we'll see :)
[15:45] <rickspencer3> ara, not sure what you're looking for, do you mean a new template?
[15:45] <rickspencer3> if so, didrocks has some good stuff on his blog, but he's not around atm, he's traveling to FL
[15:46] <ara> rickspencer3, OK, I'll check his blog. And now that I know the terminology, I might find something ;-)
[15:46] <rickspencer3> :)
[17:00] <czajkowski> kenvandine: did you have any luck with contacts in FB re your blog post?
[17:01] <kenvandine> enough that someone moved it from unconfirmed to NEW
[17:01] <kenvandine> but the more votes the better...
[17:01] <kenvandine> if it gets enough votes, it will end up being tracked on the platform status page
[17:11] <czajkowski> kenvandine: mind if I pm you a comment from a fb enginner
[17:11] <kenvandine> czajkowski, please do :)
[17:15] <asac> kenvandine: i cannot add a second twitter account to gwibber? ;)
[17:16]  * asac not sure if its a smart idea i first place
[17:17] <OwaisL> guys, as a user I must say, Gwibber is the worst client I've seen.
[17:17]  * OwaisL ready to dodge bullets. Matrix style. :P
[17:18] <OwaisL> gwibber-service is cool. but the client. UI is terrible.. I mean look at any.. i mean ANY twitter or FB client. all are better.
[17:19] <OwaisL> I think it should be re-written.
[17:19] <czajkowski> kenvandine: see it pays to blog for help
[17:19] <asac> OwaisL: write a better UI then ;)
[17:19] <chrisccoulson> yeah, i would have voted if i didn't have to create an account
[17:19]  * asac fires fast bullets
[17:19] <asac> hehe
[17:19] <OwaisL> asac: haha.. I might have to do that if no one does.
[17:19] <kenvandine> yeah, i should blog more often
[17:19] <OwaisL> asac, i got one in the arm.. damn you.
[17:20] <kenvandine> asac, does it think you are already logged in as the other use?
[17:20] <asac> OwaisL: the natty cycle is just starting ;) ... so time to start on writing this
[17:20] <asac> kenvandine: i hit "add ..." ... select "twitter" ... then hit the "Add" button and then it shows me my current twitter account
[17:20] <asac> and allows me to hit authorize button
[17:20] <asac> while i hoped i could select a 2nd user id
[17:21] <chrisccoulson> hi asac!
[17:21] <asac> good evining chrisccoulson
[17:21] <chrisccoulson> how are you? looking forward to UDS?
[17:21] <kenvandine> asac, right... ok there is already a bug filed about that
[17:21] <asac> heh
[17:21] <kenvandine> asac, webkit has cached the session or something
[17:21] <asac> chrisccoulson: i am today still on vacation. tomorrow all comes back and i have to do lots of planning etc.
[17:21] <kenvandine> we need to clear that
[17:21] <asac> kenvandine: kk
[17:21] <kenvandine> i'll try to look at it this week :)
[17:21] <asac> chrisccoulson: but otherwise yes. i hope i can hop in the pool ;)
[17:22]  * kenvandine has re-factored the crap out of gwibber this week already :)
[17:22] <chrisccoulson> asac - did you know we have some guys from mozillamessaging at UDS next week?
[17:22]  * kenvandine looks forward to being about to have individual packages for service plugins
[17:22] <asac> chrisccoulson: i know that david ascher wanted to come ... who else?
[17:22] <chrisccoulson> asac - bryan clark and david ascher are both going to be there
[17:22] <asac> cool
[17:22] <asac> chrisccoulson: any nice sessions for tbird?
[17:22] <asac> saw you added like 3 under the app selection track
[17:23] <kenvandine> asac, i also played with auto-saving on success but need to review that more
[17:23]  * asac is unsure whether "indicator support for tbird" really belongs to the pacckaging selection track
[17:24] <asac> kenvandine: where do your gwibber specs live this cycle?
[17:24] <asac> other?
[17:24] <chrisccoulson> asac - i didn't put it there - it was originally in "other"
[17:24] <chrisccoulson> but they got renamed ;)
[17:24] <asac> heh
[17:24] <asac> ok
[17:24] <chrisccoulson> rick created a general thunderbird blueprint
[17:24] <asac> right
[17:24] <kenvandine> asac,  https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/appdevs-desktop-n-gwibber-enhancements
[17:25] <chrisccoulson> i need to do some planning really but i'm having gcc-4.5 issues
[17:25] <asac> kenvandine: so work to be done against upstream is "appdevs"?
[17:25] <kenvandine> well, best i could figure
[17:25] <kenvandine> app selection, etc
[17:25] <kenvandine> asac, i really struggled picking a category
[17:25] <asac> heh... multimedia- ;)
[17:26] <asac> social network is kind of a media ... so part of multi-media ;)
[17:26] <kenvandine> i fear there will be a long list for "other"
[17:26] <chrisccoulson> i put all of mine under other ;)
[17:26] <chrisccoulson> and then most got renamed
[17:27] <chrisccoulson> i wish launchpad would tell me when somebody renames them
[17:27] <chrisccoulson> i only realised when all of my links were dead
[17:29] <kenvandine> yeah
[17:30] <asac> right. lets see
[17:30] <asac> who runs the "other" track?
[17:35] <czajkowski> kenvandine: logged all my niggly bugs, thanks
[17:35] <kenvandine> woot
[17:35] <kenvandine> link me please
[17:36] <kenvandine> although i think i do actually get notified of new bugs now, finally
[17:36] <czajkowski> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/663376
[17:36] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 663376 in gwibber (Ubuntu) "Multicolumn doesn't remember layout after restart (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[17:36] <czajkowski> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gwibber/+bug/663378
[17:36] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 663378 in gwibber (Ubuntu) "replying to a @message in the indicator messes up the multicolumn display (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[17:37] <czajkowski> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gwibber/+bug/663377
[17:37] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 663377 in gwibber (Ubuntu) "No notification of Direct messages (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[17:40] <kenvandine> czajkowski, thx
[17:47] <glatzor> bye mvo!
[17:47] <glatzor> mvo, here is a "broken" debhttp://sourceforge.net/projects/clutterflow/files/banshee-extension-clutterflow.deb/download package
[17:47] <glatzor> mvo, here is a "broken" deb http://sourceforge.net/projects/clutterflow/files/banshee-extension-clutterflow.deb/download package
[17:48] <glatzor> mvo, i have to get home. already late :) see you
[17:50] <devildante> mvo: around?
[18:03] <and471> mvo, hey, is there a blueprint for software-updater at UDS?
[18:10] <czajkowski> and471: you can search all bp via https://blueprints.launchpad.net/sprints/uds-n
[18:10] <devildante> and471: btw, did you do any progress with software-updater?
[18:10] <kklimonda>  /b 8
[18:10] <kklimonda> sigh
[18:11] <and471> devildante, not much beyond since I last spoke about it
[18:11] <and471> devildante, I stopped o that it could be discussed at UDS so I knew that what I was working was definitely going to be adopted
[18:11] <and471> czajkowski, thanks
[18:12] <and471> czajkowski, tho it was a kind of "if he hadn't, he should do" :)
[18:13] <devildante> it seems mvo is quite quiet these days...
[18:13] <devildante> rather silent
[18:13] <asac> jcastro: i renamed a blueprint a while back and now its broken on summit schedule ... will this recover on its own? or do i need to do something?
[18:14] <and471> devildante, I guess he is eating
[18:14] <devildante> ah
[18:14] <jcastro> asac: when did you rename it?
[18:15] <jcastro> asac: drag it off the schedule, wait an hour, and then it should autoschedule
[18:15] <asac> jcastro: ok dragging off is required?
[18:15] <asac> i think i renamed it 1-2h ago
[18:15] <jcastro> probably
[18:15] <asac> but not 100% sure
[18:15] <jcastro> nor me
[18:15] <asac> let me just wait another few
[18:16] <asac> jcastro: but well done that it picks up the linaro bps ;)... thanks!
[18:16] <asac> was just magic!
[18:16] <jcastro> asac: that's all Daviey
[18:17] <jcastro> I am just the mean cop making people rename things
[18:17] <asac> thanks daviey ... lets collect and get a bunch of beers for him!
[18:17]  * Daviey perks up
[18:18] <Daviey> Ah, renames aren't currently well handled... you will find you have a duplicate session :/
[18:18] <Daviey> asac: go into the admin UI and delete the old one. It's under http://summit.ubuntu.com/admin/schedule/meeting/
[18:20] <asac> Daviey: ok great. but the new name gets scheduled?
[18:20] <Daviey> yes
[18:21] <devildante> what's the timezone in the schedule? GMT?
[18:27] <asac> devildante: local time Orlando, FL
[18:30] <devildante> thanks
[18:30] <devildante> but I'm a little "nervous"
[18:30] <devildante> one of the sessions I created, I might not attend to it in time
[18:30] <devildante> oh well
[18:31] <czajkowski> devildante: have you marked yourself as mandatory for the session ?
[18:32] <devildante> hmm, no
[18:32] <devildante> stupid me :p
[18:34] <devildante> is there still time to reschedule it?
[18:37] <czajkowski> devildante: no stupid, you just didnt know.
[18:37] <devildante> :)
[18:43] <ssalley> I'm a developer at Likewise supporting the likewise-open project. I'm going to be able to attend UDS for only a bit and was wondering if there was a particular day or two that would be good for meeting people and putting faces to names. So then people will know who to visualize when they're cursing me :-)
[19:00] <mvo> hey devildante - looks like we are currently unlucky when it comes to timing :) when you come online I usually left already
[19:01] <mvo> devildante: you are on OMGubuntu :)
[19:01] <mvo> devildante: and your branch is cool, I just would like to see a additional check that the unused app will not remove ubuntu-desktop if it gets removed
[19:04] <kenvandine> asac, my bug is up to #12 on the facebook most popular list :)  yay to community!
[19:05] <asac> wow
[19:05] <asac> seems not many are contributing to fb then ;)
[19:05] <asac> (if ubuntu community can matter)
[19:05] <asac> user question from stupid me: how do i officially get a new place in the "Places" menu? like $HOME/Downloads ?
[19:06] <kenvandine> asac, i think that is called a bookmark in nautilus
[19:06]  * asac found a menu and tries
[19:06] <asac> hmm "Add Bookmarks ..." does nothing
[19:07] <asac> and "Edit bookmarks" has no "add" button ;)
[19:07] <kenvandine> just did for me
[19:07] <charlie-tca> drag the folder to the left column
[19:07] <asac> where?
[19:07] <asac> oh
[19:07] <asac> i am in spatial mode ;)
[19:07] <kenvandine> so browse to the folder you want and "Bookmarks->Add bookmark
[19:07] <kenvandine> ah!
[19:07] <asac> ah let me try that
[19:07]  * kenvandine forgot that even existed :)
[19:08] <asac> ok now i understand ... add bookmark adds the current folder
[19:08] <asac> that was not really clear to me ;)
[19:08] <icek> hi, my eth0 was getting an ip on dhcp but now it wont work, it keeps saying no DHCPOFFERS received.....  it was working just great now it wont work :/ its plugged into my router any advice?
[19:08] <asac> yeah it did it
[19:09] <asac> but i want a special icon for Downloads ... like Documents Videos etc.
[19:09] <asac> anyway ... thats good enough
[19:09]  * asac finally took this measure to stop his Desktop from overflowing with zillion of downloads
[21:21] <cyphermox> pitti, ping
[22:00] <xteejx> Hi all
[22:01] <xteejx> libchamplain wants to install 2 build-deps, libgirepository1.0-dev and gir-repository-dev
[22:01] <xteejx> both provide some or all of the same files, but not sure which to remove/install
[22:02] <xteejx> Anyone able to help please?
[22:02] <geser> xteejx: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gir-repository and check the changelog entry for the recent natty upload :)
[22:05] <xteejx> geser: I see reference to gir, but I'm confused, sorry
[22:06] <geser> xteejx: the file conflict got resolved in the most recent upload (-6ubuntu10) but as it FTBFS you still only have the old debs available (with the file conflict)
[22:07] <xteejx> so apt-get upgrade?
[22:07] <geser> yes, once the FTBFS got resolved
[22:07] <xteejx> but -6ubuntu10 was published 4 days ago?
[22:08] <geser> the source but it failed to build
[22:08] <xteejx> ohhh gir ftbfs I see, so that needs fixed first?
[22:09] <geser> yes
[22:09] <xteejx> geser: Ok, thanks for clearing that up, I'll get on it :)
[22:09] <geser> then you get the debs for -6ubuntu10 you need to install both build-dependencies of libchamplin to check if the FTBFS is fixed there too
[22:10] <xteejx> Ahhh that makes sense now
[22:10] <xteejx> Thanks again geser :)
[22:11] <xteejx> geser: gir is in main, are we allowed to work on ftbfs for those?
[22:11] <geser> xteejx: you should perhaps ask seb128 if he (or somebody) else is already working on this before you do double work
[22:12] <xteejx> that answers my question then :)
[22:12] <geser> xteejx: sure, why not. You just need a sponsor who can upload it for you.
[22:12] <xteejx> cool :)
[23:29] <ronoc> shuerhaaken, hey just fetched the update
[23:29] <ronoc> but now there is no plugin option for the sound menu ?
[23:30] <shuerhaaken> hello conor
[23:30] <ronoc> hows it going ?
[23:30] <shuerhaaken> the soundmenu is back in
[23:30] <ronoc> oh cool
[23:30] <shuerhaaken> fine
[23:30] <shuerhaaken> how about you
[23:30] <ronoc> grand in Orlando for a pre ?
[23:30] <ronoc> UDS sprint
[23:30] <shuerhaaken> stress gone after release of maverick?
[23:30] <ronoc> pretty much
[23:31] <ronoc> getting ready for natty development
[23:31] <ronoc> prototyping some nice pulse stuff at the moment
[23:32] <shuerhaaken> pulse stuff?
[23:32] <ronoc> recording streams straight from the server, and trying to automatically identify using the echonest audio fingerprinting api
[23:32] <ronoc> yup
[23:32] <shuerhaaken> nice!
[23:32] <ronoc> aye
[23:33] <shuerhaaken> pulse audio has  this stream tagging
[23:33] <ronoc> stream tagging ?
[23:34] <shuerhaaken> i'm not sure how it is called
[23:34] <shuerhaaken> i updated xnoise plugins four hours ago. with soundmenu
[23:34] <shuerhaaken> for maverick
[23:34] <ronoc> oh great
[23:34] <ronoc> will take down
[23:35] <shuerhaaken> i had bad critiques after the last release
[23:35] <ronoc> oh how come
[23:35] <shuerhaaken> not good for large collections
[23:35] <ronoc> UI response
[23:35] <ronoc> yeah I read about that
[23:35] <ronoc> will test later and come back to you if I notice anything
[23:36] <ronoc> going go for a run !
[23:36] <ronoc> get healthy !
[23:36] <ronoc> talk later
[23:36] <shuerhaaken> ok. bye
[23:55] <icek> hey, i set up a router ubuntu-server   i used dhcpd and firestarter but now i want to use cacti to do cool analysis and graphs to watch my network.... how do i do this? just install cacti?
[23:56] <micahg> icek: try asking in #ubuntu-server