[03:39] <nhandler> Bleh. I've spent a good portion of the afternoon trying to find a sane way to unwrap ML messages. I've concluded that it is just easier to do it by hand (I wanted to make a ML->WP script). akgraner would a script to post the UWN stuff to the fridge help? I thought I remembered seeing a script that formatted it for the fridge already
[03:58] <nigelb> hrm, why not a script? ;)
[03:58]  * nigelb will take a poke at it today
[04:03] <akgraner> nhandler, yes it would make it easier - b/c it's the same thing each week
[04:03] <akgraner> well the same sections I format each week
[04:04] <nhandler> akgraner: Ah, what the heck. I'll make a generick post2fridge script ;)
[04:05] <akgraner> nhandler, I am just now learning how to write scripts you all make it look easy :-)
[04:08] <nhandler> akgraner: /wnn news
[04:08] <nhandler> akgraner: What I think I'll do is have the script save the posts as drafts and then give you a link to go and edit it
[04:08] <nhandler> That way, you can add tags, categories, preview it, and make sure everything is sane before posting
[04:09] <akgraner> that's awesome
[04:09] <akgraner> any comments about adding the links yet?
[04:10] <nhandler> What links are we talking about now akgraner ?
[04:11] <akgraner> nhandler, people were asking for ways they can get to the stories they want to read about without having to scroll or even see the whole wiki
[04:11] <akgraner> so I experimented today with the Fridge post and added links to the various items we list on the in this issue
[04:12] <akgraner> nhandler, http://ubuntu-news.org/2010/10/18/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-214/
[04:12] <nhandler> akgraner: I saw that. It is nice, but not a huge deal to me. Are you going to try out the multi-page approach for next week?
[04:12] <akgraner> nope - I just wanted to see how this approached worked or not
[04:13] <akgraner> I still think the multi page may work
[04:14] <akgraner> and I am hoping more people will contribute if they are only focusing (seeing) one area
[04:14] <akgraner> and not get overwhelmed with the whole thing but who knows
[04:14] <akgraner> thoughts?
[04:16] <nhandler> akgraner: I don't think it will help much with contributors. But I think it will help with the issue of the UWN getting very long
[04:16] <akgraner> nods
[04:17] <akgraner> I think the plain text email will always be long and some people like it
[04:18] <akgraner> but it's LONG and the more areas Ubuntu reaches the longer it is going to get - and the main page of UWN can list the hottest topics but the pages can have even more
[04:18] <akgraner> not sure right now how it's all going to work we'll just have to work on it and get some feedback and tweak it some more etc
[04:19] <nhandler> akgraner: An interesting point to reach would be to allow users to pick and choose which sections they are intersted in (in a subscription form) and then have a script that combines those sections and sends it to them each week
[04:19] <akgraner> and people have been asking for a way to search UWN for loco news etc easily
[04:19] <akgraner> nhandler, exactly
[04:20] <akgraner> mail chimp will allow that and track plain text and html clicks but it's a pay for thing
[04:20] <akgraner> it would be pay for us not the subscribers
[04:21] <nhandler> If we had a server capable of handling the load of managing all of the subscriptions, we could do it ourselves
[04:21] <akgraner> I have been searching for an open source solution that could be added to a server that was both functional and pretty etc and would not be a pita to set up
[04:21] <akgraner> server space is easy to get
[04:22] <nhandler> akgraner: It isn't just server space. It needs to be able to handle creating the custom messages for each user and then send them out. We don't want to be waiting all day for it to process that stuff
[04:22] <akgraner> I just don't have a solid handle on how much bandwidth and space to tell them we will be using
[04:22] <akgraner> nhandler, yep I know
[04:23] <akgraner> there should be a way to gage the wiki page views etc
[04:24] <nhandler> akgraner: Canonical could easily get that data from the logs if they wanted
[04:24] <akgraner> to sorta kinda get a way to see which pages get more traffic etc
[04:24] <akgraner> nhandler, let's come up with what I need to ask for and I will while at UDS
[04:25] <akgraner> but I'd like to get the pages done so I can point to what we are working toward etc
[04:25] <akgraner> I'll block out some time tomorrow through thursday  to help with the setup
[04:27] <nhandler> akgraner: You might also like https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PageHits
[04:27] <akgraner> but this new job is going to take up some extra time as I over come new job learning curve stuff
[05:31] <nhandler> akgraner: I just tossed up a quick post2wp.pl script in lp:uwn if you want to try it out. Just fill in your username/password and run it 'perl ./post2wp.pl /path/to/file/to/post/to/fridge'. It will then give you a link to edit the post in a browser. The script is still pretty basic, but it works
[07:34] <alourie> good morning
[12:14] <akgraner> nhandler, thanks!  Iook at it today
[12:14] <akgraner> Dang I can't type
[12:14] <akgraner> I'll look at it today (is what I meant)
[12:15] <alourie> hello
[12:16] <akgraner> alourie, good morning
[12:17] <alourie> akgraner: hey Amber
[12:18] <alourie> just meny to ask you if you're before or after sleeping cycle :-)
[12:18] <alourie> s/meny/meant/
[12:20] <akgraner> after :-)
[12:20] <akgraner> just got my kids off to school - going to find some coffee and I am waiting for a call to tell me what time I have to pick my hubby up at the airport later today
[12:22] <alourie> :-)
[12:25] <akgraner> alourie, give me about 25 minutes and we can go over some ideas you have - I very interested and don't want to be distracted so let me get my day planned and some more caffeine and I'll be right back - is that ok?
[12:25] <akgraner> time wise for you
[12:25] <alourie> that'd be great - I'll take a lunch break, so I'll have at least 40 mins
[12:26] <alourie> akgraner: so, ping me 10min ahead, so I'll go heat it up
[12:27] <akgraner> awesome thanks!
[12:38] <alourie> akgraner: that's weird, I don't remember what I wanted to suggest :-(
[12:40] <alourie> but we still can discuss things though if you have time
[13:21] <akgraner> alourie, you mentioned how do we let people know about UWN or ubuntu-news.org
[13:22] <alourie> akgraner: right!
[13:22] <akgraner> that's a great topic for the next meeting b/c we'll be back from UDS with a lot of ideas
[13:23]  * akgraner goes to find the agenda page that I sincerely need to add a million links to past meetings on
[13:23] <alourie> and UDS is next week, right?
[13:25] <akgraner> yeppers
[13:25] <akgraner> alourie, one sec I'll get you the link so you can add to the agenda
[13:25] <akgraner> well you and anyone else who wants to :-)
[13:27] <alourie> sure :-)
[13:34] <akgraner> alourie, sorry on a call  - I'll post it in just a sec
[13:37] <alourie> akgraner: don't worry, take your time as long as you need
[13:53] <akgraner> alourie, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Meetings
[13:54] <akgraner> crap now I know why I don't drink at my desk - brb
[13:55] <akgraner> sorry about that - spilled my coffee on my mouse - need to get a mug with a LID :-/
[13:55] <alourie> :-)
[13:56] <alourie> or get water-proof mouse
[13:56] <akgraner> hehe
[13:56] <alourie> or, rather, coffee proof
[13:57] <akgraner> off to work for me - catch you all a bit later   - Have a great morning/afternoon/evening :-D
[17:47] <pleia2> so, on ubuntu-news.org - are the accounts tied to LP at all w/ openid?
[18:05] <akgraner> pleia2, they need to be for sign on purposes and access
[18:05] <akgraner> but they aren't at the moment
[18:05] <pleia2> ok :)
[18:05] <akgraner> there is a plugin
[18:05] <pleia2> so I just log in with my wp username and password for now
[18:05] <akgraner> and I can get someone the link to it
[18:06] <akgraner> btu was told we will still have to manually add the editors and admins
[18:06] <akgraner> but if you sign on with LP it should still give you access if I set it up right
[18:06]  * pleia2 tries
[18:06] <akgraner> can you try it and see what access it gives you
[18:06] <akgraner> lol thanks
[18:07] <pleia2> hm, nope :(
[18:08] <akgraner> hmm - I'll ask Charlie to look in to it for us
[18:08] <akgraner> I think he wrote the plugin
[20:25] <akgraner> I have to run to the airport (3.5 hour round trip drive) - it would be great if someone could go back to the last issue we reported on Ubuntu Members added via Developer membership board and see who we need to include the til now..
[20:26] <akgraner> then add it to Issue 215  under General Community News - just follow the style from the last one  we reported it on
[20:27] <akgraner> It was on my todo list for today but sadly not going to get to it today or tomorrow :-(
[20:45] <pleia2> I'll post the new CC member announcement to ubuntu-news.org once it hits devel-announce
[22:50] <nhandler> akgraner, pleia2: Currently, you need to have an account on WP to login. Once you have an account, you can add your LP account as an OpenID URL.
[22:51] <nhandler> akgraner: Did you get a chance to test the new lp:uwn script I added yesterday for posting to the fridge?
[22:53] <nhandler> pleia2: You might like the script as well
[22:53] <pleia2> nhandler: thanks, that worked :)
[22:54] <pleia2> ok, my post hasn't been approved for -devel-announce yet and it's been a few hours, going to just post to now and link to news team
[22:56] <nhandler> pleia2: All of the moderators for that list appear to be away right now
[22:57] <pleia2> yeah, probably won't be around until tomorrow
[23:05] <pleia2> nhandler: can you review my shiny first post? http://ubuntu-news.org/?p=2900&preview=true
[23:18] <nhandler> pleia2: Sure
[23:20] <nhandler> pleia2: Looks good
[23:20] <nhandler> pleia2: And remember, we aren't doing forum links anymore
[23:20] <pleia2> thanks, published
[23:20]  * pleia2 nods
[23:20] <pleia2> it automatically goes to planet, I assume?
[23:20] <nhandler> pleia2: Yep
[23:21] <nhandler> Hmm...Maybe we should start utilizing the featured image feature of WP more
[23:21] <nhandler> pleia2: But the script I was talking about lets you post a text file to the fridge. It is in lp:uwn
[23:22] <pleia2> cool, I'll have a look in a bit