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lordganeshpr0xy: see dpkg --version output http://paste.ubuntu.com/516515/00:00
galoisfieldlordganesh: can i know what is qtparted for? because i too tried to install that but it wasnt found..00:08
pr0xylooks up to date.00:08
galoisfieldpr0xy: yes..his dpkg is up to date..00:08
pr0xyNO! galoisfield. You can't know what qtparted is for!00:08
lordganeshgaloisfield: anyway it happen for anything I try to install it using apt-get00:08
pr0xyit's a secret, see.00:08
James147lordganesh: try running "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -f install"00:09
lordganeshJames147: I already tried that. It doesn't work00:10
galoisfieldpr0xy: good joke..i saw that its for manipulating partition tables..thanku that i found myself :)00:11
sithlord48i'm having issues w/ amarok (kde 2.3.2) i put some files in my ~/music and it didn't add them to the collection.. so i tried "update collection" and the full rescan no change. i have even removed my ~/.kde/apps/share/amarok folder now it only sees 161 tracks in that folder (of over 7k )00:11
pr0xygaloisfield, was it actually funny?00:15
galoisfieldpr0xy: to an extent :)00:16
pr0xylol.00:16
pr0xyHey, if nerdy_kid comes back, can you say that I'm AFK cuz of Scouts?00:18
pr0xycuz I am.00:20
pr0xyHey, galoisfield. If nerdy_kid comes back, can you say that I'm AFK cuz of Scouts?00:21
galoisfieldpr0xy: sure..but i ll crash by 10-15 mts00:24
pr0xyok00:26
nerdy_kidpr0xy im back00:41
galoisfieldnerdy_kid: proxy left u a msg that he s afk cuz of scouts :)00:42
nerdy_kidgaloisfield thanks, but what does afk mean?  :-/00:43
galoisfieldaway from keyboard :)00:43
nerdy_kidgaloisfield ah ok, sorry!  thanks :)00:45
galoisfieldnerdy_kid: what sorry is for.. no need dude :P00:45
nerdy_kidgaloisfield cause im such a noob with abbreviations :D00:47
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nixboxi am using kubuntu 10.04, when i open a flash video (youtube for instance) in firefox, the sound stutters, how can i fix this?02:19
compaq1223Does everyone here use linux? or?02:26
alexhello,after upgrade to 10.10,I find the theme is a little bit dark,how can I make it ligther02:42
deokanoni'm kind of a n00b at this, so i am not sure what are the full specs required for ubuntu 10.10 to function properly02:42
deokanonand that was the only website i found02:42
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deokanoncan anyone post a link with the full specs for ubuntu 10.10? thanks02:43
deokanonwhoa this is a kubuntu channel lol02:44
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jschallhow do i get firefox integrated with kde properly in 10.10? it looks all wrong and doesn't know what to do with downloaded files.03:19
pr0xynerdy_kid still here?03:42
pr0xyanyone here?03:45
pr0xyhellohellohello03:45
pr0xy?03:45
pr0xy!ping03:46
ubottupong03:46
pr0xy!ping03:46
pr0xy!whatis love03:46
pr0xy!music03:46
pr0xy!ubottu03:47
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jeremyI have a couple questions about my ubuntu installation..03:47
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Guest68983I downloaded google chrome and it isnt allowing me to view videos on youtube/facebook...  says I need flash player, and as far as adobes website goes, it says its part of chrome.. I checked the plugins and there is no flash player.. any ideas ?03:49
leandrodeassisGuest68983: i386 or amd64?03:51
Guest68983its the amd64 iso I installed from03:51
leandrodeassisGuest68983: wget http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/flashplayer_square_p2_64bit_linux_092710.tar.gz03:52
leandrodeassisGuest68983: sudo tar xzf flashplayer_square_p2_64bit_linux_092710.tar.gz -C /usr/lib/xulrunner-addons/plugins03:53
leandrodeassisand restart chromium03:53
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NinjaNumberNinehi all, this probably isn't the best place to start this, but i'm having issues with nvidia drivers... (GeForce 7300 LE) and jockey-kde will not start at all.04:57
NinjaNumberNineanyone? :(04:59
* NinjaNumberNine is in awe of the apparent sheer number of lurkers on the official kubuntu irc05:01
phoenix_hello05:06
phoenix_NinjaNumberNine: hi05:07
NinjaNumberNinephoenix: hiya05:14
NinjaNumberNineis it normally this quiet on here?05:16
phoenix_NinjaNumberNine: its because most of them are sleeping. what the time zone of us05:39
NinjaNumberNineits 11:40 here, but this issue needs to be fixed before tomorrow morning for my dad, he's an investor and frankly he needs stability, and isn't finding it in Linux.  I'm afraid he'll switch back to Windows, he keeps talking about it. trust me, I'd be asleep myself if it weren't for that.05:41
NinjaNumberNine(central time zone, us, but if figured there would be people from other countries where it's daytime)05:42
NinjaNumberNineI'm trying a dist upgrade from Lucid to Maverick, perhaps this will help... anyhows it says it's going to restart the computer when finished, so i'll say bye while i still can... 8)05:48
* NinjaNumberNine yawns05:48
jmichaelxi wish this freaking firefox-kde-support business actually worked06:05
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|multipass|hey, dumbish question, but is kubuntu as stable as gnome? or is there anything id have to worrry about :o06:46
pibarnas|multipass|: what release? and I think so.06:54
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andrew__Hello. Could anyone help newbie with working around some interface problems?07:57
andrew__1) sudo password dialog always pops under the active window 2) "K start" menu starts unwanted drag operation durind navigation 3) software center disappears right after click on "install"08:00
andrew__4) is there any djview viewer, which allows to view a document as 2 pages starting from _any_page08:02
ubuntuHello08:05
ubuntuDoes anybody know why i'm not able to connect to internet thru "Network management settings... mine is  DSL connection08:07
ubunturight now i got connected thru by issuing the command pon dsl-provider08:08
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andrew__useless place. bye08:38
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fantihello! what is akonadiserver for? and why does it start own mysql-server instances?09:59
gigasoftsomthing turns off my desktop effects, how can i desable that programe ?10:10
gigasoftdisable10:10
volodyadoes anybody notice bugs drawing popup menus with using latest nvidia driver?10:17
volodyaThey are sometimes only partially drawn.10:17
Peace-volodya: try colibry notifications10:23
Peace-volodya: maybe it's better10:23
Peace-volodya: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Colibri?content=11714710:24
Peace-gigasoft: 10.10?10:28
Peace-intel video card?10:28
Peace-volodya:  you can download colibri here http://ppa.launchpad.net/agateau/colibri/ubuntu/pool/main/c/colibri/10:28
volodyaPeace-: why do you think notifications might affect menu rendering everywhere?10:29
Peace-volodya: read bad sorry10:29
Peace-volodya: i have read notification instead of popus10:30
Peace-xD10:30
Peace-wow10:30
Peace-maybe becasue i hate too much default notifications10:30
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steverhello. can anyone tell me where i can change the download server in kubuntu? i'm getting very slow downloads from http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu11:30
Peace-stever: mm11:31
Peace-just a sec11:31
Peace-stever: http://torrent.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/simple/maverick/desktop/kubuntu-10.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent11:32
Peace-that is 32bit11:32
Peace-of kubuntu dedktop11:32
Peace-version11:32
FloodBotK2Peace-: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.11:32
steverodd it has just started going faster. from 15kB/s to 216kB/s, fluctuating a bit11:32
steveri mean for updates11:32
Peace-stever: i have download kbuntu at 700k11:32
Peace-italy11:32
Peace-here11:32
Peace-http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download#download-block11:33
steveri'd like to find out how to change mirror when using apt-get11:34
rorkPeace-: kpackagekit > Settings or manually change /etc/apt/sources.list11:35
rorkPeace-: although I think they changed the default package manager in 10.1011:35
steverrork: thanks, that's what i'm after.11:36
rorkyou're welcome11:36
andreaxxxhello, does anyone using natty have problems with fonts today? the bold font in apps looks too big and blurred12:03
sagacii wish kubuntu had more ubuntu in it12:10
Tm_Tandreaxxx: natty is not supported here until it's released12:11
andreaxxxTm_T: ok, sorry didn't know that. i just switched after 10 years of debian and i still have to  understand stuff like this ;) Is there any support/discussion forum/irc chan for natty users?12:12
sagaciis it #kubuntu+112:13
andreaxxxty12:13
Tm_Tandreaxxx: actually natty isn't supported in any way yet, as the development haven't even started yet12:14
bazhangsagaci, #ubuntu+112:14
sagaciubuntu+1 is up now I see12:14
sagacibazhang: yeah, just saw12:14
mazufziOptions|Connect|Servers|Add:Server:irc.fu-berlin.de12:16
ghatak_What is the difference between installing a system from Kubuntu live cd. and installing using ubuntu netinstall.iso (minimal install) and doing apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ?12:26
James147ghatak_: the minimal will get the packages form the internet rather then from the cd12:27
James147ghatak_: but their is no real difference between installing kubuntu from disk and installing ubuntu-desktop on it and installing ubuntu from disk and installing kubuntu-desktop on that12:28
ghatak_James147: I was more interested in knowing, what would be the difference in terms of end product ?12:28
sagaciwouldn't it be nice if the kickoff menu was an ubuntu logo rather than a generic kde12:28
sagaciI like to feel like i'm using kubuntu, not a generic kde desktop12:29
James147sagaci: then change it12:29
James147:)12:29
James147sagaci: also, why would oyu use the ubntu logo, surly tyhe kubuntu one is better if you want to 'eel' like your using kubuntu ?  :)12:30
James147s/ell/feel/12:30
James147s/eel/feel/  even :p12:30
rorkghatak_: if you install from the live cd you get a complete system including open-openoffice and all other software, when you do a minimal install and install kubuntu-desktop (with the --no-install-recommends) option you can have more control on which software is installed12:31
James147^^ but from either approch you can uninstall/install the software you wantt o get the system you want :) it just depends on whats more effort12:32
rorkindeed12:32
sagaciJames147: I'm just saying if ubuntu used a gnome icon for their application menu, wouldn't it feel less consistent12:33
rorkand it would depend on your bandwith, cpu and stuff like that12:33
James147sagaci: I would hate to see the gnome icons in kde :S12:33
sagaciJames147: no, if normal ubuntu used the gnome icon instead of an ubuntu icon12:34
James147sagaci: then thats a matter for #ubuntu12:34
sagaciJames147: has it been discussed whether to use a kubuntu icon on the kickstarter menu by default12:34
James147sagaci: not sure, you could try asking in #kubuntu-devel12:35
Krishnandukrow12:49
Bubulle_hello, why quanta+ is not in Kdewebdev, Why kdewebdev is empty except documentation, whay quanta+ packages are exclusive of kdewebdev? What shoould I install to have a proper web project development in kde?12:55
leagrisaccording to /usr/share/doc/kdewebdev/README The kdewebdev package contains Quanta Plus and other applications,  But there is no quanta+ in the package. Why this mess ?13:02
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James147leagris: only quanta applicaiton I can find is the kde3.5 version... :S13:05
James147in the repos taht is13:05
James147leagris: from waht I can see there is no current kde 4 version of quanta for lack of developers... thus why its not included in the kde4 version of kdewebdev13:10
andreaxxxexactly13:10
leagrisok, the README file is misleading though13:14
andreaxxxleagris:  if you want to stick with kde apps your options are kdevelop or kate. I'm a free lance webdesigner and i've managed to use kate only, though i know it cannot be ideal for everyone13:15
leagrisandreaxxx, I liked the project managment of quanta, having push updates through ftp, html tidy... Trying kate now13:19
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JuJuBeeAnybody here know squid?  #squid is dead....13:54
JuJuBeeWhere can I get help with squid if not here?13:55
JuJuBeeOther than google...13:55
rorkmaybe just ask your question13:55
JuJuBeeSorry, am in wrong channel for that ...   I need help getting a squid config working http://pastie.org/1235294 as I think it should be working. Someone please help?13:56
z6akabtminihi guys I need help asap13:59
James147!help | z6akabtmini14:00
ubottuz6akabtmini: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)14:00
alex_kubuntu 10.10 seems dark(I mean bar and frame),how can I adjust it to lighter?14:02
James147alex_: change the colour theme... (system settings > application appeaence > colours)14:04
BluesKajHowdy14:19
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batterflyhi14:20
batterfly"This channel was created on 26.11.2006 09:42:42."    why?    kubuntu did not exist Before 2006?14:21
James147batterfly: all that says is that kubuntu was popular enough to have a irc channel in 2006...14:22
batterflyok14:22
BluesKajstrange situation here . My media server has nvivdia 7600gt and runs fine without probs including desktop effects etc. My desktop pc has a nvidia 8400gs and runs like an elcheapo onboard ati , jerky mouse, slow FPS etc.. both cards are running the same nvidia drivers ...any ideas?14:24
BluesKajhi James147, batterfly14:25
James147hey BluesKaj14:26
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BluesKajthe 8400gs is not defective , because W7 graphics are very quick on it14:28
BluesKajgonna repeat my question in #ubuntu14:33
LogicallyDashingI have both Dvorak and Spanish keyboard layouts enabled. They work fine until I switch to my secondary (Spanish) layout, whereupon holding Control causes the keyboard to revert to Dvorak. I don't want it to do that. How do I make it stop?14:37
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IceTruckKiller'Jour15:06
sushiyanthow to make diffirent desktop activity in multi desktops for KDE15:51
rorksushiyant: System Settings > Desktop > Multiple Desktops > Different Activity for  desktops. Then add widgets to the different desktops16:01
smoophhi Guys I am having problems with my dual-head setup with an old intel graphics on 10.1016:02
smoophin 10.04 I had to execute "xrandr --auto --output DVI1 --mode 1280x1024 --left-of VGA1" and could use both my monitors ... but this is not working anymore ... I mean kubuntu does recognize the second screen but doesn't expand the desktop to it16:04
smoophan thoughts16:04
sushiyantrork: but my opened softwares shown in all desktops16:05
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nobarkingare there any recommendations to tweak Kubuntu for performance?17:02
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olskolircwhat was the command that reset all the config files to default?  I forgot17:16
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rorkolskolirc: dpkg-reconfigure -a17:49
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nebulaMonitor your Internet Traffic Stats using...????18:01
nebulaMonitor your Internet Traffic Stats using...????18:08
nebulalast version for KTorrent ubuntu 10.10 ????18:11
nebulalast version for KTorrent Kubuntu 10.10 ????18:12
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Guest65678ciao a tutti18:30
Guest65678!list18:30
ubottuThis is not a file sharing channel (or network); be sure to read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot »18:30
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BajKhm today I tried my kubuntu external hard disk on a fujitsu laptop19:01
BajKand it worked quite well but resolution stuff was just a big mess19:01
BajKI wanted my desktop on the laptop screen and then the desktop being extended to the beamer image19:01
BajKbut that was impossible to manage or configure19:01
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gAnApAtIHello! It seems that i've lost the menubar in Kubuntu 10.10. Several kde programs like konqueror and dolphin.19:34
gAnApAtISearch around but it seems to be hard to wrap around. I've been a Kubuntuer for years and this is the first time I stumble upon this one.19:34
apparleguys I have made a 10GB ext3 using mkfs.ext3 and mounted it using defaults action in fstab20:05
apparlebut why is it read only20:05
chelsea__yo20:16
chelsea__did you20:16
chelsea__know how do you install the driver for wusb600n ?20:17
chelsea__on 9.04 it's running20:17
rork_apparle: what's the line of that disk in fstab?20:17
apparleUUID=cd83c836-1782-4d6c-a67d-838db3a6d599 /media/RANDOM ext3 defaults,rw,user 0 220:17
teadictwhat's the name of Qt's notification library?20:18
sanu01is kubuntu 10.10 good?20:19
sanu01better then 10.04?20:19
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rork_apparle: that looks ok to me, I don't know then but I'm curious as well, I've had the same problem20:20
apparleany genius here20:21
pibarnassanu01: better.20:21
jmichaelxsanu01: just don't go to 10.10 if you are using an intel 945g graphcs adapter20:21
pibarnassanu01: new kernel, new kde.20:22
jmichaelxsanu01: other mobile intel graphics adapters are also doing poorly in 10.1020:22
teadictknotify, lol20:22
jmichaelxkde4 notifications suck, most annoying notifications i have ever seen anywhere20:23
apparlejmichaelx: which version?20:23
apparlejmichaelx: which version of kubuntu?20:24
jmichaelxapparle: i'm in kde4.5.2, and yes, there has been an improvement20:24
leandrodeassisif you're using intel, disable desktop effects or disable direct rendering20:24
jmichaelxi'm in 10.1020:24
apparlejmichaelx: I think kubuntu notifications are cool20:25
apparlejmichaelx: it depends on what you are comparing to... and obviously your choice20:25
jmichaelxleandrodeassis: i agree... although i would recommend staying in 10.04 one is using intel graphics20:25
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jmichaelxapparle: did you like the notifications prior to kde4.5?20:26
apparledidn't hate them...20:26
jmichaelxif one is using....*20:26
leandrodeassisjmichaelx: agree.20:26
apparlebut didn't like them either20:26
jmichaelxapparle: many people did hate them20:26
leandrodeassisjmichaelx: kubuntu 4.5.2 already in kubuntu backports ppa?20:26
jmichaelxleandrodeassis: yes, it's been there since about the time of 10.10 final release20:27
leandrodeassisops20:27
leandrodeassiskde4.5.220:27
sanu01pibarnas, jmichaelx well i have nvidia20:27
leandrodeassishmm20:27
jmichaelxsanu01: with nvidia, you are likely fine20:27
sanu01only prob is my resolution is quite high 1980x160020:27
sanu01so when i update20:27
sanu01the fonts really become small20:27
sanu01thats what really puts me down20:28
sanu01:(20:28
jmichaelxsanu01: there has been in a change in fonts in 10.10, not sure what all that would effect, but by default some were too small for me, too20:28
jmichaelxsanu01: just toy with you settings20:28
jmichaelxyour*20:28
sanu01jmichaelx, can you send me screenshot of your font settings plz/ or settings you toyed with20:29
leandrodeassisjmichaelx: added this backport: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/backports it's in 4.5.1 o_O20:29
jmichaelxsanu01: i can't exactly remember what i did, but just go to your system settings20:29
sanu01jmichaelx, hmmmm ok20:30
jmichaelxleandrodeassis: you want the kubuntu-ppa, instead of the kubuntu backports ppa20:30
leandrodeassisoh20:31
leandrodeassissry20:31
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lee-xmy ktorrent is running slow when it downloads any type of torrent and my internet goes extremely faster, is there any way i can change the settings to where it will download faster?22:04
rork_lee-x: Settings > Configure Ktorrent > Network, check if the download speed is limited there22:05
lee-xno limit22:05
rork_lee-x: and your not on your maximum number of connections?, what about nobody can seed to you (just some thoughts, gotta go now)22:08
sithlord48can someone please tell me why amarok sees only 161 songs in my music folder (around 7k files are in the folder)22:20
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BlackTenshiGreetings and salutations22:23
snarkstersithlord48: check unknown folder22:23
sithlord48snarkster:  ? whats that suspota mean?22:24
snarkstergimme a sec to open amarok22:24
sithlord48i have cleared my ~/.kde/apps/share/amarok folder if thats what your talking about (i have also did a purge / reinstall of amarok it self)22:24
snarksteroh22:25
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snarksterwell anyway what i was talking about is Various Artist, and Unknown artist.22:25
sithlord48naw it sees only 161 songs.. i have no idea why22:26
sithlord48i had added some songs to my ~/music folder but i hit rescan it came back w/ 161 tracks.22:27
sithlord48eh JontheEchidna :)22:29
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realslixhi, my keyboard does not repeat letter oder input by pressing and holding a key22:36
realslixwhy22:36
realslixsolved, keyboard repeat was just disabled :)22:40
JontheEchidnasithlord48: hi22:43
sithlord48JontheEchidna: hows it going ?22:44
JontheEchidnanot bad22:44
sithlord48JontheEchidna: btw your doing a great job on muon i haven't even installed synaptic on my Maverick box yet (no need)22:44
JontheEchidna:)22:45
sithlord48askually got qt creator open now22:46
JontheEchidnasithlord48: seen the blog post where I preview Muon 1.1 features?22:47
sithlord48JontheEchidna:  i dont' think so ..22:47
JontheEchidnaoh! Then allow me to post a link :) http://jontheechidna.wordpress.com/2010/10/10/whats-cooking-in-muon-trunk/22:48
sithlord48JontheEchidna: better search? cause it seams to fail some times on searching for packages (when i know they are there)22:48
JontheEchidnaA "slower but accurate" search to complement the quick search currently provided is still on the todo list22:49
sithlord48well thats why its a todo list i understand22:49
JontheEchidnaThe search that Muon has now is really more accurately a "quick search"22:49
sithlord48yea i was looking for "amarok" before and it could not find it ..22:49
JontheEchidnahmm22:50
JontheEchidnareally?22:50
sithlord48really im gonna try again22:50
sithlord48naturally now it works..22:50
JontheEchidnalol22:50
sithlord48now is it auto filter or do i have to press enter22:50
JontheEchidnait's an auto-filter22:51
JontheEchidnaonce you stop typing for ~ half a second22:51
sithlord48ok then idk cause i noticed this time it did it when i hit enter, and then worked autofilter..22:51
sithlord48last time i sware it didn't work22:51
JontheEchidnaYou could have caught it while it was rebuilding the search index22:51
sithlord48good now i can do a proper purge of amarok and hopefully fix it22:51
JontheEchidnaand btw there will be a progress bar for search index rebuilding in the main statusbar, so you can tell when that is happening22:52
JontheEchidnabut I have to go now, bbiab22:52
sithlord48JontheEchidna: and sorry if this in the the cooking link cause i ave not looked yet. can we get a synaptick style im changeing this ?22:52
sithlord48ok ttu later keep up the good work22:53
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JontheEchidnasithlord48: synaptic style?23:27
sithlord48JontheEchidna: yes as an example i choose to install the kubuntu-desktop packge. it should have a QmessageBox saying im gonna also mark this stuff23:28
magdalenahi there23:28
sithlord48i know that its in the preview changes tab.., but i have forgoten to look there and and important packages removed23:28
magdalenai have a very strange problem23:28
magdalenai run all the betas of maverick on my desktop machine23:29
JontheEchidnasithlord48: I'll put it on the todo list23:29
magdalenaand now, every time a do a right click on one of my tray icons23:29
magdalenaplasma-desktop crashes23:30
sithlord48JontheEchidna:  its a suggestion , and if i were better w/ Qt i would offter to help but im a new qt programmer and i ahven't touched c in a long time before this.23:30
sithlord48JontheEchidna: askually you can see on my project svn where im at w/ Qt..  http://blackchocobo.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/blackchocobo/23:30
sithlord48magdalena: you do relaize maverick is released.. have you done your updates?23:31
magdalenayeah. I'm uptodate23:35
magdalenai exactly have this probl: http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.kde.bugs/38625623:35
magdalenafound some bug reports in the internet23:35
magdalenabut all people complaining about this reported that -- after upgrading -- the problem went away23:36
sithlord48magdalena: its just you threw me off when u said maverick beta.. what kde ?23:36
magdalenabut not for me23:36
magdalenai started with 4.5.0 - I think23:36
magdalenaperhaps it was even a kde 4.5 beta23:37
magdalenanot sure23:37
magdalenanow i'm on 4.5.123:37
magdalenaand maverick final23:37
magdalenaI even have two other machines which made all the betas and are now final23:38
magdalenadidn't have the problem there23:38
sithlord48maybe you try the kde 4.5.2 ppa?23:38
sithlord48that will upgrade all your kde packages..23:38
magdalenanow that you say it. i'm pretty sure, the problem startet with 4.5.023:40
magdalenathen 4.5.1 came out -- and I thought. maby this upgrade will fix it23:41
sithlord48idk im on maverick w/ kde 4.5.2 i have no issue..23:41
magdalenabut it didn't23:41
sithlord48then again i didn't have this issue either23:41
magdalenaI assume that I have one tiny stupid package in the wrong version which isn't upgraded for what ever reason23:42
sithlord48did you at some point hold a package version?23:42
magdalenahold a package version? - I dont understand23:42
magdalenabtw: dunno if that helps. killing kded4 resolves this problem... of course, other things stop working then23:43
sithlord48you can tell the package management system to not upgrade a package, but if you didn't do this manualy chances are this is not the cause23:44
magdalenabesides that: libdbusmenu-qt2 defines this symbol. but the libs seem identical compared to my ohter system23:44
sithlord48idk that is strange indeed23:45
sithlord48have you checked to see if you have broken packages ?23:45
magdalenasudo apt-get dist-upgrade   does not report any borken packages23:45
magdalenasame problem with fresh user. btw23:46
magdalenaI even did something like reinstalling all packages and removing the old .deb files beforehand23:46
magdalenano success neither23:46
sithlord48well then there goes my next suggestion.23:47
sithlord48umm maybe you should try kde 4.5.2 ,23:48
magdalenawhere can I look, if some packages are held back?23:48
sithlord48sudo apt-get update / upgrade23:48
magdalenaah, ok23:48
sithlord48do update first then upgrade.. in a konsole , it should tell you23:48
magdalenai dont have packages, which are held back23:49
what_ifOn one of my soundcards the line-in port is always playing over the audio-out port. How can I stop this?23:50
sithlord48what_if: check your volumes in kmixer23:51
magdalenaanother possibilty is which I've thouth of is: i have one package which is "too good". let's say i have package x-1.2.3. then after some experiments (i do that from time to time) i have the unoffical x-1.2.4. but after purging the ppa x-1.2.4 is still installed and not downgraded again to x-1.2.323:51
what_ifhave moved and toggled every control in kmix. No way to have input, but no output23:51
sithlord48what_if: if that does not do it try useing alsamixer in a konsole23:52
magdalenais there a way I can find sth like that?23:52
sithlord48magdalena: do u have synpatic?23:52
magdalenano23:52
magdalenajust konsole23:52
magdalenakpackagekit from time to time23:52
sithlord48well idk how to do it w/ o it..23:52
magdalenawell i can install synaptics23:53
sithlord48you can do sudo apt-get --no-install-recommends install synaptic  to get it w/ much less depends23:53
what_ifsithlord48: that was it, the control I wanted was not in Kmix :)23:54
what_ifsithlord48: alsamixergui worked23:54
sithlord48what_if: yea pulseaudio (the sound system in maverick) seams to only show 1 channel23:55
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James147magdalena: easiest way to downgrade a package is to uninstall the ppa, and reinstall the package23:57
sithlord48yea that would work23:57
magdalenaok. i know that. but the probl is -- i dont know which package23:58
magdalenai installed synaptic. what now?23:58
James147magdalena: .. well what are you trying to downgrade? what did the ppa offer?23:59
magdalenajames147: you don't know the backstory23:59

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