=== ZachK_ is now known as zkriesse [02:14] oooooh, i'm on windows using xchat and it feels weird...my ubuntu 10.10 install won't boot now. probably related to the updates for the kernel that came out earlier, but i don't have any older kernels to use since i had to free up disk space. any ideas on what i can do using a live cd? recovery mode doesn't work either. i can use a live cd and backup everything and do a fresh install if i have to, but i reallllly don't want to go throug [02:14] h that tonight since i have a paper to work on. also, hey guys, been a long time, sorry to come back with a problem :) === jussi01_ is now known as Guest48460 [03:33] No wireless networks listed [03:36] earthshade, iwconfig [03:37] earthshade, do you see an active wireless interface? [03:40] No wireless ext [03:41] Reverend_Ruff: [03:43] earthshade, lspci | grep -i wireless - post here [03:44] Is is Lspci L grep or ispci i grep? [03:44] Reverend_Ruff: [03:46] Lspci [03:46] LS = list, PCI = pci card buses [03:49] Reverend_Ruff: ??? [03:49] Oh sry [03:49] It didn't reload [03:49] earthshade just open a terminal and enter "lspci | grep -i wireless", then post it here [03:50] What is after lspci is that an L or a | (vertical line) [03:51] earthshade: It's a bar [03:51] | [03:51] Ok [03:51] It is called a pipe, it the the vertical line on your keyboard [03:51] it is the, my bad [03:52] Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88w8335 [Libertas] 802.11b/g Wireless (rev 03) Reverend_Ruff [03:53] I am not familiar with this card. One moment, let's locate the drivers for it [03:54] http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/marvell-88w8335-chipset-netgear-wg311-pcicard-driver/ [03:54] There you go [03:54] So what do I do with it [03:55] ??? Reverend_Ruff [03:56] earthshade, open that page and follow the directions. =) [03:57] Reverend_Ruff: But if you notice... This involved me downloading a driver but I'm not connected! [03:57] earthshade, you cannot plugin to an ethernet cable to connect temporarily? [03:57] Reverend_Ruff: No tengo [03:58] The wifi is being used my multiple other computers [03:59] I'll switch to xp, download there, put it on a USB stick, and then switch back... [03:59] earthshade, yeah, you'll need to do that [03:59] ... Sooo tedious though [03:59] Sorry [04:00] I'll keep you up to speed when I finish... I've gotta do some other stuff too while I have xp [04:00] (a connection) [04:01] ok [04:02] Reverend_Ruff: Do I need steps 4+? or just 123 [04:03] Reverend_Ruff: [04:03] One moment, let me look... [04:04] You do need wpa_supplicant if you have security on the wireless signal [04:04] It's WEP [04:04] Do I still need it? [04:05] Reverend_Ruff: [04:06] I believe so [04:06] Oh ok [04:06] Ask in #ubuntu. Hook will know [04:08] lahwran said no [04:08] Reverend_Ruff: [04:09] Ok [04:30] Reverend_Ruff: So um I did the steps and for iwconfig it still said no wireless ext [04:30] Reverend_Ruff: Do I need to reboot? [04:31] Possibly [04:31] What do you think it is [04:32] Try rebooting to reload all modules, or you can do it manually with rmmod , modprobe [04:32] What do I put as mod name [04:33] ?? [04:33] Reverend_Ruff: [04:34] wg311 might be it [04:35] Lol I'm already rebooting [04:36] Ok I logged in [04:36] What now? [04:37] Reverend_Ruff: ? [04:37] iwconfig, look for an active interface [04:38] No wireless ext [04:38] wlan0 isn't showing up? [04:38] No [04:39] sudo apt-get install pastebin && iwconfig | pastebin [04:39] do you have eth0 and eth1? [04:39] sometimes wireless nics are shown as eth [04:39] Oh snap [04:39] Nevermind, you don't have internet [04:39] bioterror, yeah, they do on my comp [04:41] eth0: no wireless extensions [04:41] lo: no wireless extensions [04:41] Reverend_Ruff: ^^^ [04:42] Hmmm [04:42] You asked in #ubuntu? [04:43] This whole topic? [04:44] Reverend_Ruff: [04:44] Just your issue [04:44] Ok [04:44] Ya I did and h00k couldn't figure it out [04:44] Neither could ilovefairuz [04:45] Ok, one moment, let me look around [04:45] Ok cool [05:13] having problem installin google earth on Maverick. I have downloaded the .bin file from http://www.google.com/earth/download/ge/ [05:14] after downloding just right click on the file and select "Open with other application" then click on "use a custom method" and type ' sh ' then click on Open [05:16] are you asking or telling? [05:16] shahan: That's not how you execute .bin files... [05:17] shahan: Navigate to where you downloaded the file, type chmod +x , then run ./ [05:17] aveilleux: ya I tried these process too.... [05:17] same return [05:17] shahan: What is the console output? [05:17] aveilleux: let me say [05:18] or right click on it and choose properties and permissions "execute as " (can't remember exactly) [05:18] * Cheri703 tries to point out gui ways to do stuff as new people are often uncomfortable in cli [05:19] Cheri703: You really should learn the CLI ways of doing it :/ [05:19] well, yes [05:19] in theory [05:19] but there are a lot of new people who aren't to the point of "you really should" they just want it to work [05:19] in the easiest way that is hardest to mess up [05:19] Cheri703: I always find the Terminal explanations the simplets [05:19] simplest* [05:20] because quite frankly, when I started, telling me to "navigate to where you downloaded the file" would not have meant ANYTHING to me, wouldn't have even told me to open terminal [05:20] are you a programmer? [05:21] Cheri703: Yes, but I learned how to use the Linux CLI before I was a programmer. [05:21] ok [05:21] aveilleux: http://paste.ubuntu.com/516619/ [05:21] a lot of people just coming over from windows have NOOOOO familiarity with it [05:21] so I just find it helpful to offer them an alternative [05:21] Cheri703: I know shahan dows [05:21] does* [05:21] ok [05:21] good :) [05:21] I didn't, so just thought I'd throw it out there [05:22] shahan: Try re-downloading the file. It's an error in one of the contents of the file. [05:22] be back in a bit. [05:22] aveilleux: ok.... [05:22] aveilleux: [10:20] Cheri703: I know shahan dows [05:22] aveilleux: wat does "dows" means? [05:22] does [05:22] he clarified right after [05:24] shahan: does* [05:24] Mohan_chml: ya... nice to meet you Mohan_chml :) [05:25] ummmm! Goole Earth right! /me will google in minutes [05:26] I am downloading it from the google site http://www.google.com/earth/index.html [05:26] shahan: what about trying sudo apt-get install googleearth ? [05:27] Mohan_chml: didnt tried [05:27] ah...! I think I found a community page. Lemme look [05:27] shahan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GoogleEarth [05:27] Mohan_chml: http://paste.ubuntu.com/516620/ [05:28] argh! [05:28] shahan: look at Medibuntu repository at the link I gave [05:28] Mohan_chml: ok [05:29] you have to add the repository and all procedures to that are there [05:29] I will brb. mom shouts coz I woke up just now :D [05:30] Mohan_chml: but I think Alternative Installing is more easy then others.... [05:32] Mohan_chml: Alternative Installion will give us the latest edition provided by Google [05:35] I have added the medibuntu repository .. still same problem http://paste.ubuntu.com/516623/ [05:36] brb... after taking bath [05:45] shahan: when I hit "here" it downloads Google Earth. you checked that? [05:49] Mohan_chml: no [05:49] downloded the file again from the Google Earth [05:49] shahan: http://paste.ubuntu.com/516627/ [05:49] I added the repository like that [05:51] Mohan_chml: ok... its adding [05:51] :) [05:52] Mohan_chml: http://paste.ubuntu.com/516629/ [05:52] argh! [05:52] Mohan_chml: argh! what does it mean? [05:53] Mohan_chml: "argh!" [05:54] nothing. just felt sad. I Think you have to download the packages again or try clicking "here" in the medibuntu repositories header [05:57] Mohan_chml: I have downloded the package from the google site and tried to install it using terminal http://paste.ubuntu.com/516632/ [05:57] it says the xml file has a line missing [05:57] Mohan_chml: ya [05:58] Mohan_chml: do u have any alternate idea? [05:58] try downloading an older version instead (Just give a try ) ;) [05:58] Mohan_chml: ok... [06:01] I will bbl in around 2 hours [06:04] Mohan_chml: গত... [06:05] Mohan_chml: ok [06:05] Mohan_chml: you here? [07:07] hello [07:07] hi [07:07] * switchgirl needs to un-corrupt an ipod [07:07] urgent [07:07] hmm... [07:08] wont sync with rhythmbox [07:08] I don't know anything about ipods, but I can try to find out [07:08] what/how is it corrupted? [07:08] it wont sync and says it has files on it but none are showing [07:10] gtkpod wont even recognise it has an ipod [07:10] connected [07:10] hmm...ok [07:10] so probably not corrupted, just not showing up? [07:11] when i connect it the hard media shows up... [07:11] ok [07:12] i just checked in term [07:12] and it has the files listed in dark green/mauve [07:12] whats that mean? [07:13] the colors? perhaps folders and individual files? [07:14] does this look remotely familiar? http://gtkpod.wikispaces.com/FAQ#bufferioerrors [07:14] ew, nvm, that requires recompiling the kernel... [07:15] what kind of ipod? [07:17] a blue shuffle [07:17] ok [07:17] serial number4hb207kyx7 [07:18] http://www.simplehelp.net/2007/07/07/how-to-use-gtkpod-to-manage-your-ipod-in-ubuntu/ [07:18] read through that, see if you've done those steps [07:21] * JoeMaverickSett suggests banshee for music syncing. :) [07:23] * JoeMaverickSett also suggests switchgirl to use banshee if she just wants to sync music. ;) [07:24] I have to get to sleep. it appears that JoeMaverickSett has some experience with ipods (or at least syncing), so I'll leave you in his hands. [07:24] have a good night [07:25] :O [07:25] * Cheri703 doesn't sync audio AT ALL, so you know more than she does [07:25] okie. i know abit. :) [07:36] Compile problem on Maverick http://d.imagehost.org/view/0507/drive [07:36] its from an NTFS drive named "iostream" [07:37] but working good when from the /root http://b.imagehost.org/view/0901/desktop_7 [07:40] /me is proud of her new job, she is a tea [trainee equality assistant] [07:40] switchgirl: did you manage to work it out? [07:41] JoeMaverickSett: nope [07:41] switchgirl: you just want to sync music? [07:41] i just want some music on my ipod so i can walk out the door dancing [07:42] [when i am not dancing i feel sad] [07:42] switchgirl: have you tried banshee? or even rhythmbox? [07:42] yeah [07:43] thats why i said : [07:43] wont sync with rhythmbox [07:43] switchgirl: ah, i didn't see that. :/ [07:43] (07:07:55) switchgirl: wont sync with rhythmbox [07:44] switchgirl: have you tried gtkpod? [07:45] yes [07:45] switchgirl: still a *no go*? [07:51] wb switchgirl [07:51] Can someone know what I need to play video over the net? I can play TED video, neither CNN or YouTube as it matter!!!!! I have shockwave flash, gnash installed as mozilla plugins [07:51] switchgirl: you forgot this channel?? :P [07:52] LeMoiLib: checked the shockwave's home page?? [07:52] or is having any updates regarding your issue! [07:52] may be [07:53] I check if it was up to date and mozilla said it is [07:53] ah! [07:55] LeMoiLib: Had you tried with any other flash players? [07:55] like??? === Guest48460 is now known as jussi [07:58] adobe flash player and other players [08:00] yes all not working [08:00] i have to go to work [08:03] switchgirl: so the your ipod is detected by your machine and not players right? [08:04] Mohan: I'm trying your suggestion [08:04] let you know............ [08:06] Okies =] [08:31] Mohan I installed Flash player and everything is fine now. Thanks. I had another issue, yesterday I installed Wine on my netbook and ubuntu crash as a result. I had a terminal a the starting telling especting from me thing that I don't know and then much latter on it was simpler and there was the ubuntu start up interface with option : F to try to fix the problem, S to skip and M to mount manually. How I try to proceed manually but then it was a [08:33] LifeLiner: Wine?? :( [08:34] LeMoiLib: Fix did not work? [08:34] Manually mounting the Operating system is some thing to scratch up [08:34] nope [08:34] what do you mean???? [08:35] Wine is that software with help you install widows app in ubuntu [08:36] LeMoiLib: lemme look at the crashes. but wine will make the M$ applications hook up the ubuntu codes and corrupt them. We strongly say one to have Wine as Option 2, having Option 1 as trying alternate softwares available [08:38] Don't worry, I regret trying that out! Can you suggest another player??? CNN video and youtube are working but not TED!!!!! [08:38] gimme url to TED [08:39] Hola bioterror [08:39] hi mohan [08:39] http://www.ted.com/talks/stacey_kramer_the_best_gift_i_ever_survived.html?utm_source=newsletter_weekly_2010-10-12&utm_campaign=newsletter_weekly&utm_medium=email [08:39] hi bio! [08:39] greetings :D [08:40] gotta check that one out, becouse if you can play videos at youtube, you should play anywhere [08:40] LeMoiLib: He is bio TERROR :D [08:40] hope I don't give you head ache today!!!!!!O:-) [08:40] you said it! [08:41] hmmm, I can watch it with my windows + chromium [08:41] gotta look that sourcecode ;) [08:41] me too [08:42] LeMoiLib, you have adblock on or something like that? [08:42] what is that? [08:42] Ummm...! Lucid + adobe flash plugin is also playing it [08:43] LeMoiLib: use update manager and check for updates please. jUst wanted to verify [08:43] ok [08:46] Mohan the cubuntu want to restart........... [08:46] ubuntu!!! [08:46] LeMoiLib: try it :) [08:47] ok then, see you just now! [08:51] mohan the update haven't resolved the TED issue [08:54] aww..! [08:55] LeMoiLib, are you using flashplugin-nonfree? [08:55] so, TED plays with shockwave right?? [08:55] phillw and bioterror: is it possible to have two flash players at a time? [08:55] I dunno [08:55] no I said [08:55] I suggest you to remove the one you're using [08:55] * Mohan_chml haven't concentrated much in videos [08:55] and install flashplugin-nonfree [08:56] not unless you really want to have a bad time, as they will fight each other [08:56] yeah, just like with java [08:56] get the openjdk off and install sun-java-jre ;) [08:56] bioterror: but i feels this issuse is strange. coz adobe plays all as i use it [08:56] Is flash and Shockwave together a probelm then??? [08:57] LeMoiLib: they said so ^^ [08:57] should I disable shockwave see!!! [08:58] hah you have that? try it or even remove it =] [08:58] I thought you removed shockwave and installed adobe [08:59] Well shockwave is only in Mozilla, can find it with synaptic [09:00] and there is not option to uninstall it in Mozilla plug-in window [09:01] okay try disabling [09:02] I did, now I have this message on the site: You either have JavaScript turned off or have an old version of the Adobe Flash Player. To view this video you need to get the latest Flash player. [09:02] If your browser allows only "trusted sites" to execute Javascript, you should add the "googleapis.com" domain to your whitelist to allow our Flash detection to work properly. [09:03] I have already the latest Flash so maybe it is the java problem????????? [09:04] ah..! bioterror your eyes are here? [09:13] LeMoiLib: I looked at edit->preferences->applications tab. the way is that you can find the extension of TED video and set it to shockwave. first, enable shockwave [09:15] I'm back, using my cable to send a crahs repport of Maverick 10.10 on my netbook [09:15] was there any instruction for me??? Mohan? [09:16] LeMoiLib: I looked at edit->preferences->applications tab. the way is that you can find the extension of TED video and set it to shockwave. first, enable shockwave [09:16] ok [09:17] done [09:17] then..... [09:18] umm...! enabled shokwave?? [09:18] yes I did [09:18] 2) edited the Applications in preferences by finding the extension of TED video [09:20] what do you mean by finding the extension when I'm in edit>preferences>application??? [09:23] yep [09:24] find application extension of TED videos before going there [09:25] Mohan: should I type that in my browser or what? [09:32] LeMoiLib1: Look at the page info of the TED link and find the video format [09:33] and you can find that video format listed in Applications tab. on the right to it, you can edit which player is to play it. select shockwave. I think this will do [09:33] can't see it! can you copy it for me please [09:34] or I don't understand what you mean [09:35] ummm... give me a min :) [09:35] Bah! internet got down and the page is not loading :'( [09:36] sorry for us! [09:37] I can't find the format :'( [09:37] but you saw the list of video formats listed in Applications tab right? [09:38] yes [09:43] try changing it and that is my last bullet to shoot [09:44] Changing what? [09:47] LeMoiLib1: changing the action for the content type in Applications [09:49] Mohan let us drop that issue, I'' watch it with windows. Thank you very much for your time, I hope you find something about manual booting. See you next time [09:50] Hi, can someone explain to me how to safely expand my ubuntu partition? [09:53] ............. [09:54] uhh guys whenever i minimize the ubuntu vbox, and come back to it its locked and i have to enter my password again and again [09:54] everytime i do it [09:54] how do i stop it from locking itself? [09:55] Robinux: System > Preferences > Screensavers [09:56] Robinux: you can uncheck to disable "lock screen" [09:58] oh ok [09:58] thanks i'm on it [09:59] oh waw it worked, JoeMaverickSett thanks a dozen mate [09:59] Robinux: no problem. :) [10:00] Robinux: glad it worked out. drop by here anytime you are in need of help. ;) [10:03] Website ( http://www.somewhereinblog.net/ ) browsing problem on Maverick. but works good on Lucid. Its loading the mobile version site [10:06] hehe thanks JoeMaverickSett , i'm quite new to ubuntu just started using it 2 days ago, and quite new to linux in general, i started using it 3 months ago [10:13] hehe thanks JoeMaverickSett , i'm quite new to ubuntu just started using it 2 days ago, and quite new to linux in general, i started using it 3 months ago [10:13] you probably didn't get that as you pinged out [10:13] Robinux: yeah, didn't see that. :) [10:14] * JoeMaverickSett has been using Ubuntu for 6 months. :) [10:14] no kidding [10:14] wow [10:14] and linux in general? [10:15] Robinux: same day, same time. ;) [10:15] aha [10:15] so you're a beginner going intermediate or something [10:15] :P [10:16] JoeMaverickSett, you've learned alot in 6 months [10:17] bioterror: did i? if so, i don't know.. :D [10:17] you know lot of things that I dont and you've been using since 5.10 :D [10:17] I've been using [10:17] even [10:17] cool [10:17] bioterror: i know alot of things? what things..?? btw, i think we should take it to the offtopic side? [10:17] well [10:18] :D [10:19] offtopic side? [10:19] JoeMaverickSett ? do you mean another channel? [10:19] yes [10:19] cool there's a #ubuntu-offtopic [10:20] yes, these channels are being logged and these are mainly for helping out, not for chit chat. if you know what I mean ;) [10:20] haha [10:20] oh ok i see [10:20] so like even if there's no one in need of help we're not allowed to 'chit chat' [10:20] hehe [10:22] yes [10:22] that's why we have these more laidback channels ;) [10:23] becouse people can search from logs help [10:23] nice nice [10:23] and if the logs are full of non-helping chats, it takes more resources to find the information [10:23] i understand mate [12:06] hi my name is raja ...i am new to ubuntu [12:06] i need a solution for speed up the upgrade server [12:07] i doing upgrade of 10.10 [12:08] what you want to speed up? [12:08] yes yes [12:09] can you be more specific [12:10] i am doing upgrade with good speed connection hav 100kBps in my college but i am getting slow speed [12:10] well [12:10] sometimes networks might be slow [12:10] ok [12:10] 46% [1 linux-image-2.6.32-25-generic 23.0MB/31.7MB 72%] 2,962kB/s 8s [12:10] Get:1 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid-updates/main linux-image-2.6.32-25-generic 2.6.32-25.45 [31.7MB] [12:11] seems to work fine to me [12:13] genupulas: Software Sources can ping all servers and select the fastest one for you [12:22] andrew_46 ok [13:18] Good morning! :) Anyone online that is good with default routes? My server is providing its DNS and DHCP services correctly, however clients are not able to access the internet. I [13:18] ... I'm fairly confident it's a stupid mistake I've made with the default routing on eth0. [13:36] Mohan_chml: I rebuilt my home server yesterday using 10.4 lts and no GUI. DHCP and DNS are working, but clients can not get to the internet. I'm sure it's a routing issue. Any tips on where to look? [13:37] I am not good with routers. I will google and will look for the issue ehcah [13:38] It's not routers. [13:38] your machine is routing if it shares internet to other in network [13:38] I'm pretty sure I need to add a default route to eth0 [13:38] I took it in the Linksys, Cisco sense... [13:39] sorry [13:39] I'm trying to stay away from a GUI and webmin this time. I went with the supported and reccomended ebox on my last server and it started acting up. [13:40] I dodnt like zentyal that much [13:40] didnt work like it should have [13:40] ehcah, I'm using pfSense myself and I can recommend it [13:41] bioterror: Never heard of 'pfsense" I will definately google it. [13:42] I really like webmin. I make a lot of changes from terminal, but it allows me to review them. I'm trying to stay the reccomended course. [13:42] ebox on the other hand, completely takes over. I found it extremely frustrating and limiting as you can not manually edit files. ebox doesn't like that. [13:42] yeah [13:42] Uninstalling it, caused HUGE problems. [13:43] and I had problem with that too with my network [13:43] I hit a point a point where I couldn't use "sudo" at the terminal prompt. Very frustrating. [13:43] I couldnt ping from my desktop zentyal (ebox) router, but other machines I could like laptops and mediaservers [13:43] Nice. [13:44] The only feature I will miss is the notification from ebox cloud if my server goes offine. THAT's IT! :) [13:44] and that router (zentyal) didnt even have a glue what machines it had in network when you were working from command line [13:44] But, I'm sure I can find that elsewhere. [13:44] true [13:44] ehcah, my wife calls me usually when our network is down :D [13:44] Funny, my experiences are the same. [13:44] Only, at her office. She calls me before the Telco! :) [13:45] but check out that pfSense, I like it even tho it's not a complete system to be used. it's more like embedded version of FreeBSD [13:47] I'm reading on it now. Is it designed to run on ubuntu or replace ubuntu? [13:48] it's a FreeBSD [13:48] with webUI [13:49] Ok. This is the url? http://www.pfsense.org/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1 [13:49] yes [14:43] I've been playing around with other distributions. Is there a way that I can ensure that I have all the default Ubuntu applications still installed? [14:46] Is there a way to get workspaces in UNR? [14:47] I think they assume that your screen is too small for that [14:52] is there a way to run a command in terminal so that is it show me the switches for the command and not run the command? [14:53] like command -help? [14:53] uhm, I want to say command -h [14:53] maybe help [14:53] * Cheri703 just woke up a bit ago [14:53] man command [14:53] its best [14:55] gtk? [14:56] gimp toolkit? [14:57] what is gimp toolkit? Sorry for all the stupid questions I've only had Ubuntu a couple weeks. [14:57] johnny77: about getitng worksapces inUNR can yuo add applets to the toolbar in unr? [14:57] getting* [14:58] generally you just need to add the workspaces applet, and then configure it to get mroe workspaces [14:58] not sure iff that;s still true in the latest version though [14:59] thebwt: no, the gnome-panel is locked. When I try to run gnome-panel, it says already running. I was thinking maybe I could add a panel at the bottom then add workspaces applet. [15:00] Could I copy/rename gnome-panel to trick Ubuntu? [15:10] johnny77: no, I don't think that'd wrok [15:10] work* [15:10] or is even possible [15:11] thebwt: ok, just a thought. [15:25] why is that running: "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart " releases and renews ip's for eth0 and eth1 on my servers. But on my laptop, it does nothing? [15:26] Is there a different command to release and renew ip's for a desktop OS? I also notice that there is nothing configured under the interfaces file, as you would on a server? [15:31] I'm having issues with Ubuntu not being able to recognize my Droid X. When I plug it in nothing happens nor is it found when I run 'lsusb'. Not sure where to even start with this? === JoeSett is now known as JoeMaverickSett [16:57] I have a simple question about C syntax, would #ubuntu-beginners-dev be a better place to ask? [17:02] :> [17:02] aveilleux: id say yes :) [17:07] i might be able to help aveilleux [17:07] but i am not in dev so not sure if you got an answer [17:07] tronyx, It's just a weird syntax thing with pointers and malloc(). Give me a second to type it out [17:10] because * is the dereference operator in assignment and processing statements, *pointer_char would be the data stored at the location that pointer_char points to, correct? ie. to store data in pointer_char, one must write *pointer_char = 'a' ; (assuming space has already been malloc()'d up for *pointer_char) [17:11] pretty sure the answer is yes [17:11] you could test that though by reading whatever is at pointer_char before and after [17:11] tronyx, That's not my question, hang on [17:11] lol ok [17:11] tronyx, It was hypothetical, I know that's correct [17:12] alright [17:12] tronyx, However, the code: char *pointer_char = (char *)malloc( sizeof ( char ) ) ; works [17:13] tronyx, Is that just an exception to the way malloc() works; or rather, how declaration and definition of variables works? [17:14] i would be prone to say declaration and definition [17:14] but i can't say that with 100% certainty [17:14] tronyx, Well I wasn't asking an "or", I was asking if it really was an exception to the rule [17:15] i read that as or, sorry [17:15] i am hesitant to say it's really an exception since an exception once should always be an exception in the same instance with future instances [17:16] i am confusing myself trying to say what i want to hahaha [17:16] hmmmm [17:16] tronyx, Well, going by strict C syntax, the statement should assign the pointer's value into the space that *pointer_char points to, which is currently nothing and the code should break [17:17] the pointer returned by malloc(), that is [17:17] this might sound dumb, but have you confirmed that it's pointing to nothing? [17:18] tronyx, when a pointer is declared without a definition it has no value [17:18] i understand that, but have you tested this? [17:18] tronyx, I have a test program, yes [17:23] i am stumped [17:23] maybe give #c a shot [17:23] hmmmm [17:23] can i see your program? [17:24] brb, sandwich [17:25] tronyx, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/516908/ [17:26] aveilleux: what was the original question (i'm interested since i learnt c recently [17:26] ) [17:26] Mjiig, I'll just copy and paste, if that's okay with you [17:27] sure [17:27] Mjiig, because * is the dereference operator in assignment and processing statements, *pointer_char would be the data stored at the location that pointer_char points to, correct? ie. to store data in pointer_char, one must write *pointer_char = 'a' ; (assuming space has already been malloc()'d up for *pointer_char) [17:27] Mjiig, However, the code: char *pointer_char = (char *)malloc( sizeof ( char ) ) ; works [17:27] Mjiig, Is that just an exception to the way malloc() works; or rather, how declaration and definition of variables works? [17:27] Mjiig, The first line is a hypothetical question, I know that's correct [17:29] Mjiig, The code I linked was a program I wrote to test my theory (that it's an exception to the syntax through which pointers are defined in C) [17:34] aveilleux: from my understanding of the language, both of those tests were the same thing, [17:36] Mjiig, theoretically, allocate_join() should return 1 and allocate_sep() should return 0, because going by strict C syntax the single-line statement inserts the pointer value returned by malloc() into the space that *p_c points to, rather than changing the actual pointer p_c. Thus, *p_c should not equal 'q', since p_c does not point to a valid space to store a pointer. [17:38] aveilleux: i can see what you mean [17:39] aveilleux: but the way pointers are treated in the declamation and the way they are treated when referenced is different [17:39] Mjiig, Ah, so my suspicion was correct. [17:40] aveilleux: i think so yes. but you would be better of having it explained by someone who learnt the language more than 6 months ago :) [17:55] hi all [17:55] putting debian on an old lappie [17:56] I'm a fairly decent buntuist/mintist, but I scratch my head over some stuff... is there a better place to ask stuff than here? [17:57] you can ask here, but if it's debian you can also try #debian on irc.oftc.net [17:57] plenty of us use debian [17:58] <_CommandeR_> do anyone have a msn account here ? [17:59] this is stuff that goes for all debian-based distros, I believe [18:00] _CommandeR_: yup [18:00] <_CommandeR_> kristian-aalborg, does it work for you with empathy or some other client ? [18:01] so I had quite an adventure last night with some issues I had, and ended up needing to downgrade my kernel, now when I'm in the older kernel, it doesn't recognize my (onboard) sound device [18:01] <_CommandeR_> i get = Received error code 500 (Internal Server Error) from contacts.msn.com:80 with empathy and cannot log in since yesterday . [18:01] _CommandeR_: try pidgin? [18:01] usually mine works [18:01] it could be on their side [18:01] I use pidgin... I think it works okay, but don't use it to transfer large files [18:01] _CommandeR_: i have msn working with empathy, although there are some shortcomings. [18:01] anyone know how to get it to recognize my sound? [18:01] I could also try a pci sound card [18:02] Cheri703: what sound do you have now? [18:02] <_CommandeR_> Cheri703, would guess alsa issues ? [18:02] none...the sound device is built into the mobo [18:02] _CommandeR_: scratch that, it normally works but not today ... [18:02] sound works in the other kernel (or did as of yesterday before the downgrade) [18:02] Cheri703: sudo lshw [18:02] <_CommandeR_> Mjiig, hm I am guessing that the new messenger client change something at Microsoft.. [18:02] then take output to pastebin [18:03] you might gain some insight by googling chip name + distro [18:03] <_CommandeR_> Maybe they fix the damn bug that i got 3 years ago or more. [18:03] _CommandeR_: unless it continues for longer, then i would guess it's just some server issues [18:04] <_CommandeR_> Mjiig, i can connect to their server using their client so not sure if it is a server issue [18:04] _CommandeR_: really that's odd... [18:04] _CommandeR_: i'm afraid i can't help you there [18:05] * JoeMaverickSett suggests giving pidgin a shot. :) [18:05] <_CommandeR_> trying atm installing. [18:07] <_CommandeR_> hm Pidgin logged in [18:08] _CommandeR_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/empathy/+bug/663670 [18:08] Launchpad bug 663670 in linthesia (Ubuntu) "linthesia crashes with GdkGLExt-WARNING **: cannot load PangoFont (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Medium,Fix released] [18:08] problem on loading a site on Maverick Meerakt... Its loading the mobile version of the website, but Lucid is good...... http://www.somewhereinblog.net/ [18:09] <_CommandeR_> JoeMaverickSett, hm yeah read that one. [18:09] <_CommandeR_> but seems odd that it worked few days ago but not yesterday or today. [18:14] shahan: which site and which browser? [18:14] shahan: sorry didn't see the link [18:14] Mjiig: its Firefox [18:15] If I want to connect to a second server in my rack running LTS 10.04 using a GUI session versus SSH, what is my best/safest option. This will most likely remain a LAN requirement only. [18:16] wow.... its doing good on Chrome [18:16] shahan: do it with chrome then ;) [18:17] * JoeMaverickSett agrees. :) [18:17] Mohan_chml: no.... Chrome has very bed integration with the Bangla Websites [18:17] shahan: but can you load all for that particular website alone? [18:18] how about try updating maverick firefox to namoroka? [18:18] <_CommandeR_> JoeMaverickSett, how do you disable grouping mode in pidgin ? Cannot find it [18:18] Mohan_chml: !!! sorry ! [18:19] <_CommandeR_> JoeMaverickSett, nwm found it :) [18:19] _CommandeR_: tbh, i don't know. i like to keep it grouped, so... :/ [18:19] _CommandeR_: where? could you point me out? :) [18:20] kristian-aalborg: I have the pastebin [18:20] http://paste.ubuntu.com/516940/ [18:20] <_CommandeR_> Tools - > Preferences -> Show IMs and Chatts in tabbed windows [18:20] shahan: is that website doing good with chrome ? [18:20] I did plug in the pci sound card as well, just to see, but after reboot, no love :( [18:20] Mohan_chml: ya... that is its loading the PC version of the site. [18:21] Mohan_chml: but on Firefox it loads the mobile version [18:21] <_CommandeR_> Grouping is good when low on space like laptop etc but with me on 3 screens it is kinda un needed thing [18:21] Mohan_chml: but I cannt use chrome because it has very poor Bangla font integration [18:21] <_CommandeR_> speaking of font wonder if Ubuntu font gets fixed. [18:22] shahan: can you test it out using a later version of ff? [18:22] shahan: the website loads good in my firefox [18:22] shahan: since i assume your using the default [18:22] Mohan_chml: what version of ff do you have? [18:22] Mohan_chml: its making problem on Maverick only [18:22] 3.6.10 [18:22] Cheri703: look at line 272 [18:22] Mohan_chml: on? lucid? [18:23] shahan: It is the problem of FF version as Mjiig said [18:23] Mohan_chml: mine is also 3.6.10 [18:23] then google... for instance http://www.google.dk/search?hl=da&q=SB+Live!+EMU10k1+ubuntu&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai= [18:23] ok [18:23] Mohan_chml: our FF version is same... [18:23] shahan: try updating it to the latest. [18:23] shahan: but it has nothing with OS [18:24] that is the pci one [18:25] I am downloading the Firefox from the Mozilla website and its 3.6.11 [18:26] Is there any alternative way to update it? [18:29] electricity gone [19:41] aveilleux: I'm looking at the code you put on pastebin, but my first thought is to look at malloc, as you cast to a pointer, but only ask for char for the size. [19:42] standforth: Yes, since it's a pointer to a char then malloc need only reserve space for a char, and return a pointer to that space [20:05] komputes, i need to upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10 from an iso [20:05] komputes, i have google that but failed [20:06] genupulas: google failed? [20:06] komputes, i mean the solution i got from there not working [20:07] komputes, i already have 10.10 iso ,with out burning how can i do upgrade [20:08] genupulas: ok, i think you need the alternate CD [20:09] genupulas: You can mount the ISO and run the upgrade from that, iirc [20:09] aveilleux, i did it already [20:09] genupulas: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MaverickUpgrades#Upgrading%20Using%20the%20Alternate%20CD/DVD [20:16] Good Morning world, got a sound prob with this laptop.... and could really use some help [20:16] komputes, i am not getting anything ....upto mounting ok [20:17] komputes, but the gksu "sh /media/cdrom/cdromupgrade" not working [20:18] I use skype as my main telephone from here to the USA as our pricing for calls fits the upper class and leaves us bankrupt [20:18] maheanuu: What troubleshooting have you done so far? [20:19] At present my mic is sounding robotic and like it is about 100meters under water [20:19] I have tried to call the testing service and it sounds terrible there also [20:20] komputes, need that please [20:20] maheanuu: Has this microphone ever worked properly under Ubuntu? [20:20] At present I am trying to do banking in the USA as all my retirement is electronically deposited there and I am having probs so I thought that I would call them without having to pay 12.00 dollars a min [20:21] maheanuu: That information is unneeded, we are going to help you regardless of your situation :/ [20:21] genupulas: you need the alternate CD [20:21] Yes when I was using Studio and 9.04 I had no problems [20:21] maheanuu: What version of Ubuntu are you running now? [20:21] komputes, with ISO i cant..? [20:21] genupulas: http://releases.ubuntu.com/maverick/ubuntu-10.10-alternate-i386.iso [20:22] genupulas: gotta go, sorry [20:22] Meerkat 64 bit [20:22] komputes, my net is too fast it will take minimum 3 days to complete that [20:22] i have downloaded that 10.10 ISO upto 7 days [20:22] maheanuu: The problem is probably with PulseAudio, the sound module that Ubuntu uses by default. Ubuntu Studio uses JACK, a different audio system. [20:24] I did the upgrade download to get rid (pretty much) of studio but not sure if I completed the cleaning out of it... Where do I need to look, or ow do I go about re-installing pulse audio [20:25] how, dammit, just washed my hands and cant do anyting wid de fingers [20:25] maheanuu: No, no, your problem is that you removed the subsystem that Studio uses and installed Pulse in its place. Since the microphone worked under JACK, you want that one. [20:26] komputes, http://paste.ubuntu.com/516989/ [20:26] komputes, look that [20:26] komputes, another problem [20:27] With the download, I got rid of the preempt kernel, and a lot of the Studio stuff, and that is where I really want to go..... Studio is way above my skill level at present and I need to have something that works not something I have to fix on a daily basis [20:28] Aveilleux, do I need to reinstall Jack, or can I make this thing an LTS version and get completely away from Studio [20:29] maheanuu: Doing a clean install of 10.04 may fix the problem, but I can't guarantee anything. [20:29] maheanuu: when you upgraded from Studio to the core distro, I get the feeling that your audio configuration got really messed up. [20:30] anyone able to help with getting TweetDeck running on 10.10? (ubuntu and linux newbie here - but not totaly clewless) [20:30] If I do a clean install, will I lose all my data that I have? I am planning on doing a back up, but need to know more about what I am doing before I start this thing [20:31] maheanuu: Yes, clean installs will wipe your system [20:31] Frode___: TweetDeck is an Adobe Air application, right? [20:31] ;quit [20:32] Yes, TweetDeck is an Adobe Air Application. I gotten as far as getting tweetdeck to start, and the first dialogs for login, but after login I get an almost empty window, where almost no of the icons/buttons work. When starting from a terminal window I see the following errors: [20:33] !pastebin | Frode___ [20:33] (TweetDeck:2251): Gtk-WARNING **: /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/immodules/im-ibus.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64 [20:33] Frode___: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [20:35] (TweetDeck:2251): Gtk-WARNING **: Loading IM context type 'ibus' failed [20:35] sorry about pasting here - those are the two only errors I see (well they get repeatet after some time) [20:35] Frode___: How did you install AIR? [20:38] I have tried several different ways (from searching the internett). Most of the ways include installing getlibs, installing some 32 bit libraries and running getlibs on them. Like this one: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1524398 [20:38] Frode___: Are you running 64-bit? [20:38] yes, I am running 64 bit [20:40] Frode___: iirc there's a really easy way to run 32-bit binaries on Ubuntu, give me a second [20:41] aveilleux, thanks, and will probably wipe the system unless I can do an install of pulse without needing to do so..... I bit off a whole lot more than I could chew with studio as I wanted to see if it would be feasable to use it here in the outer islands to record our local groups and their music but the learning curve was way too steep for me as a noob [20:41] Frode___: I just sudo apt-get install lib32gcc1 and 32-bit binaries run fine [20:41] Frode___: Then I can install AIR really easily [20:42] thanks, aveilleux! Should I uninstall TweetDeck and Adobe Air forst, then apt-get install lib32gcc1, and then reinstall Adobe Air? [20:42] affraid I will not work. I just got: lib32gcc1 is already the newest version. [20:42] Frode___: BAH [20:42] ""it" [20:43] Frode___: Did you install air just by chmod +x airwhateverbinary then running [20:43] Frode___: ./airwhateverbinary * (darn Enter key) [20:44] No, I've run all the commands listet on this post: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1524398 [20:45] Frode___: So, yes, you did [20:45] ah, yes I did (I thought you wondered if I did anything more than that) [20:47] hey guys. what means ((o)) - icons in channel people list about some nicknames? [20:47] Frode___: It sounds like a bug in TweetDeck more than a problem in Ubuntu, because it seems like AIR installed properly [20:48] RambleTamble: User states. +v, +a, +o, etc. meaning Voice, Administrator, Operator (respectively) [20:48] RambleTamble: Basically permission levels of the room [20:51] I've got it. thanks [20:53] one more) how can i adress someone message like you do (aveilleux: RambleTamble: ..) without copypasting (Pidgin) [20:54] RambleTamble: I don't know about Pidgin, but I know there's tabcompletion on XChat, where you start typing the name and hit Tab, then it guesses the name [20:55] RambleTamble: tab completion is available in pidgin too [20:55] !pastebinit [20:55] pastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com [20:55] aveilleux: wow, thanks you jsut saved me several clicks! [20:55] johnny77: Um, you're welcome then o-o [20:56] I might have found something on my TweetDeck issue: http://paste.ubuntu.com/517016/ [20:56] ahah right it works. I tried earlier with nicknames of guys who enter room, that case it won't)) [20:56] Seems the im-ibus.so i missing fromthe lib32 folder. Might this be the problem? If so, how can i correct? (http://paste.ubuntu.com/517016/) [20:57] Frode___: Evidently that library is missing from the ia32-libs https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ia32-libs/+bug/646954 [20:57] Launchpad bug 646954 in ia32-libs (Ubuntu) "failed to load 32bit immodules (affects: 4) (heat: 148)" [Undecided,New] [20:58] any way for me to fix it? [21:17] I am having trouble connecting to wireless WPA2Enterprize, PEAP, Mschamp2. When I choose ignore the CA certificate, it spins but never actually connects. I think it did work in 10.04, but not in 10.10 [21:17] i talked to the admin of that system and they do not have a CA cert. in windows, it asks to okay the local cert [21:18] javatexan: I have the same problem with my school's wireless connection. I believe it's a bug in the way that WPA2 Enterprise is handled in network-manager. [21:18] great, wonder if there is a fix on the horizon? [21:19] who does the network-manager? [21:20] javatexan: http://projects.gnome.org/NetworkManager/ It's a part of the GNOME project [21:21] okay, thanks aveilleux. Looks like some fixes are in beta, so wonder how long we will be waiting ;) [21:33] aveilleux, I have been trying to find out what sound system is presently installed and when I go to "sound" under :"preferences" it tells me that it is waiting for the sound system to respond and just hangs [21:34] Is there anyway to trouble shoot or diagnose the sound problems? [21:36] The audio out seems to be ok, but as far as seeing the mic or controlling the audio from the front of the laptop with the volume pot, I am not getting any results. Before the sound card built in worked fine. [21:56] Can anyone tell me if there are diags to check my sound system, I am getting audio out, but have 2 problems, my mic is not working correctly and I have no volume control using the volume pot on the fromt of my notebook, but can control the volume using the software one. I see that I still have ardour and jack installed and I want very much to rid myself of them [21:58] when I go to menu, system, preferences, sound I get a "waiting for sound to respond" but it never does [22:02] maheanuu, here's something to try from cli: speaker-test -c2 -D hw:0,0 -t wav -l1 [22:02] maheanuu, ah, nevermind. you are getting audio out [22:02] When using dyndns + Telco Modem + Ubuntu Server (Server providing DHCP/DNS/Internet Sharing etc..). Does the dyndns get configured on the modem, server or both? [22:03] Yes, my audio out seems to be fine, its the mic that I need for skype as I use it to call the US and keep in contact with friends and family as our tel bills here are astronomique [22:04] maheanuu, i managed to get my mic to work, but i had to upgrade alsa, and it messed up audio out in chrome (which appears to be working now) [22:07] seidos, I am using firefox as my browser and all is well there. I have an upgraded Ubuntu Studio installed on this laptop, and even tho I did the upgrade to 10.10 LTS 64 bit, I am still seeing things like ardour and jack installed and I want to rid myself of those asap [22:08] maheanuu, try sudo apt-get purge ardour && sudo apt-get purge jack [22:08] i'm sure ardour is the package name, not sure about jack [22:08] * seidos checks [22:09] Ok, that is what I was looking for I believe [22:10] maheanuu, incidentally, firefox didn't work for me either. it looks like chrome and firefox both handle audio basically the same [22:14] Is accessing network devices like your router or printer using names ie.. http://Laserjet5 instead of http://192.168.1.40 a DNS or DHCP feature? [22:17] ehcah: I believe using names is a DNS feature. [22:19] jonhnny77: I had this feature working under a different linux flavor and install. Do I need to enter similar entries somewhere in the DNS or BIND folder that I did for static reservations under /dhcp3 ? [22:20] Ok, I have removed both ardour and jack and doing a kernel upgrade to Meerkat at present then I will be looking for a way to re-install pulse audio (I believe) [22:22] ehcah: Not sure. Are you trying to set up a network or connect to an existing? [22:22] Still getting the "Waiting for sound system to respond" tag when I try to bring up "sound" from system/preferences [22:22] thanx seidos [22:23] sudo aptitude -y install xserver-xorg-core xinit menu menu-xdg jwm fvwm alsa-utils mrxvt-mini gdebi-core synaptic logrotate localepurge [22:23] I am really liking this room, I learn a heck of a lot daily [22:23] would this be a good string? [22:23] johny777: I just rebuilt a 10.04 Server yesterday. I added my static IP reservations earlier and last step is to identify them via name vs. IP. [22:25] ehcah, sorry don't know servers. Thought I'd be able to help if you were working on a home network. [22:26] maheanuu: I know, I just hang out sometimes so I can see other peoples problems. ;) [22:31] maheanuu: I know, I just hang out sometimes so I can see other peoples problems. ;) [22:35] My prob johnny is that the only help I can get is here, I live on an island that has only one (me) linux user and the closest other is in Papeete about 150 air miles from me.. the big problem is that here the users are pretty much french and they do not speak english for the most part and my french technicial is horrid next to terrible [22:36] maheanuu: ohh [22:36] i dont think so [22:39] kosaidpo?? [22:39] yeh hello [22:40] say ur issue [22:40] maybe ican help [22:40] from what i kno most people here are from all around the world tho [22:41] Yes they are and that was why I was asking about the "I don't think so" post [22:42] not trying to be difficult, just trying to get a grip on reality... sometimes that is a real problem here in the middle of the south pacific [22:43] Like I was trying to say, even a tel call from our island to Tahiti is over 20 cents a minute and it doesn't take long to eat up 2 dollars or so in just a day [22:44] And without the ability to communicate intelligently, I may as well be on the moon [22:44] well if you need help go to ubuntuforums.org its a good place too [22:45] It is usually too busy, and I prefer here as a newbie, I can be expected not to know very much and people have a tendency to be a little more laid back and helpful for us Noob's [22:52] Now that I have rid myself of Ardour and Jack, I am still hearing audio from my laptop speakers and a decent level, but my mic is also working be that it is of a very low volume and my prob is I don't know what I am using for a sound device [22:55] is it feasible to have an HP printer set up on an ubuntu live cd? [23:04] pedro3005, yes