[04:03] <vnguyen> is anyone here familiar with setting up LXC and tweaking upstart to run?
[12:21] <mcarter_> Is it just me, but  does anyone get the impression that EC2 slows down whilst doing a long compile?
[12:22] <mcarter_> It seems to start off fine, but that starts to drag.
[12:22] <mcarter_> I'm using a micro instance.
[12:23] <mcarter_> Doesn't seem specific to ubuntu - i had that problem with fedora.
[13:56] <h1> mcarter_ : that's not surprising as they are surely oversubscribing their machines, hence the scheduler gives a lower priority to long-running processes.
[13:57] <h1> what I was wondering: are you guys patching the OS yourself or is that something the provider does?
[14:13] <alonswartz> smoser, kirkland, soren - you guys familiar with puppet?
[14:14] <kirkland> alonswartz: yup
[14:14] <kirkland> alonswartz: mathiaz is our local expert
[14:14] <kirkland> alonswartz: speak of the devil....
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[14:15] <kirkland> mathiaz: ^
[14:15] <alonswartz> excellent, I wanted to pass an idea by you - maybe we can discuss it further at UDS
[14:15] <mathiaz> kirkland: o/ :)
[14:15] <alonswartz> hey mathiaz
[14:15] <mathiaz> alonswartz: hi!
[14:15] <kirkland> alonswartz: sure....shoot!
[14:16] <alonswartz> I've been going through my idea archive looking for stuff we can possible discuss at UDS. One of them is Pymin, which I think has some overlap with puppet - I'd like get your thoughts
[14:16] <alonswartz> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Pymin
[14:21] <alonswartz> kirkland: mathiaz: finished reading yet?
[14:22] <mathiaz> alonswartz: I've put it on my toread list for later today
[14:22] <kirkland> alonswartz: looking
[14:22] <mathiaz> alonswartz: I've got a couple of meetings lined up
[14:22] <mathiaz> alonswartz: I should get to it later today
[14:23] <alonswartz> mathiaz: ok, great. I'll try be on IRC later to get your feedback
[14:28] <kirkland> alonswartz: okay I'm up to speed -- looks like you have enough to propose a UDS session
[14:30] <alonswartz> kirkland: It's an ambitious project, do you think it's doable?
[14:31] <alonswartz> what I mean is it something that fits into the boundary of a session at UDS?
[14:31] <kirkland> alonswartz: definitely the sort of discussion that takes place as UDS
[14:31] <kirkland> alonswartz: don't know if or who might commit to helping with it
[14:31] <kirkland> alonswartz: but UDS is a great place to get feedback and drum up support
[14:32] <alonswartz> ok then, I'll add it to the ideapool
[14:33] <alonswartz> kirkland: I'm not very familiar with puppet (yet), is there an overlap?
[14:34] <kirkland> alonswartz: well, puppet is a tool for orchestrating multiple machines at a time
[14:34] <kirkland> (gross simplification)
[14:36] <kirkland> alonswartz: you might use puppet as part of the plumbing of your solution
[14:37] <alonswartz> kirkland: I need to read up and experiment with it, never used it before
[14:37] <alonswartz> kirkland: doesn't landscape do something similar ?
[14:38] <kirkland> alonswartz: yes
[14:38] <alonswartz> kirkland: is it opensource?
[14:38] <kirkland> alonswartz: the client part
[14:39] <alonswartz> landscape-client ?
[14:39] <kirkland> alonswartz: right
[16:09] <h1> what I was wondering: are you guys patching the OS yourself or is that something the provider does?
[21:57] <smoser> erichammond, ping
[21:57] <smoser> never mind