[00:41] <jcastro> OMFG
[00:42] <jcastro> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NicaraguanTeam/ReApproval2010
[00:42] <jcastro> WHAT.
[00:44] <jcastro> czajkowski: !!!!!!! ^
[00:47] <pleia2> best reapproval app ever?
[00:47] <highvoltage> whoah
[00:47] <highvoltage> guess who's getting re-approved :)
[00:48] <pleia2> yeah, they did today :)
[00:49] <jcastro> man
[00:49] <jcastro> I am sitting here with my mouth agape
[00:50] <jcastro> paultag: hey, show your ohio mates that page
[00:50] <jcastro> man, we gotta step our game up
[01:02] <highvoltage> jcastro: yeah! and it's not some rich western european country or something, it's normal people who are just doing it for themselves! it's really awesome and I'm sure they're going to inspire a bunch of loco teams out there!
[01:45] <duanedesign> jcastro: wow that is nice. I have been meaning to contact the nicaraguan team about the screencasts they have been doing. See if they are interested in working with the Screencast Team
[01:45]  * duanedesign does that now
[01:46] <duanedesign> _paultag: ping
[01:46] <_paultag> duanedesign: pong -- I just saw your wiki changes
[01:46] <_paultag> duanedesign: what's new, my friend?
[01:47] <duanedesign> _paultag: i am drafting a blueprint for UDS :)
[01:47] <_paultag> awesome
[01:47] <duanedesign> _paultag: i think: community-n-beginners-team-community-onboarding
[01:48] <_paultag> duanedesign: ubuntutheproject
[01:48] <_paultag> duanedesign: for some reason they changed the name
[01:48] <_paultag> duanedesign: ubuntutheproject-n-beginners-team- blah blah
[01:49] <duanedesign> ahh, thank you
[01:49] <_paultag> duanedesign: so, set it up for the day durning M-W-F and I can call in / virtual in
[01:49] <_paultag> duanedesign: I'll subscribe, what's the BP?
[01:49] <duanedesign> _paultag: let me finish it...
[01:50] <_paultag> kk
[01:50] <duanedesign> _paultag: did you see the nicaraguan app for reapproval?
[01:50] <_paultag> yeah duanedesign
[01:51] <duanedesign> also i was trying to get an ubuntu t-shirt for uds and i noticed the store had an ohio loco shirt :)
[01:51] <_paultag> duanedesign: wait, what?
[01:51] <duanedesign> ill see if its still in my history
[01:53] <_paultag> duanedesign: sidenote -- check this out -- http://i.imgur.com/qgkgg.png -- :)
[02:14] <duanedesign> _paultag: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-beginners-projects/+spec/ubuntutheproject-n-beginners-team-community-onboarding
[02:14] <_paultag> ty duanedesign
[02:18] <duanedesign> _paultag: nice SS. 118MB of RAm :)
[02:19] <_paultag> duanedesign: and that's with iceweasel
[03:19] <paultag> jcastro, dude I know, Nicaragua rocks
[03:19] <paultag> jcastro, kills our app hard
[03:22] <duanedesign> paultag:
[03:22] <duanedesign> http://www.zazzle.com/ubuntu_ohio_loco_tshirt-235091021937005110http://www.zazzle.com/ubuntu_ohio_loco_tshirt-235091021937005110
[03:22] <duanedesign> ugh
[03:22] <duanedesign> http://www.zazzle.com/ubuntu_ohio_loco_tshirt-235091021937005110
[03:40] <nhandler> Nice hoody, but it needs the logo ;)
[03:40] <nhandler> paultag: I think Nicaragua kills most of us (maybe not France)
[03:41] <paultag> sorry, I'm back duanedesign -- I was on the phone with one of my reloco leads
[03:41] <paultag> nhandler, yeah, for sure. leogg vs huates. The epic LoCo Council fight!
[03:41] <paultag> nhandler, I lost that one, for sure
[03:42] <paultag> Holy shiz duanedesign -- That's one of my other reloco leads. AWESOME! :)
[03:42] <paultag> Oh wait
[03:42] <paultag> that's from 2009
[03:42] <paultag> nevermind
[03:43] <paultag> Oh nhandler, did you see what I had in mind for Fluxbuntu -N ?
[03:43] <nhandler> paultag: No, what?
[03:44] <paultag> nhandler, http://i.imgur.com/qgkgg.png <-- I want to revive the project >:)
[03:44] <paultag> Yes it's debian. Yes, I know. Yes, I understand it's ironic.
[03:44] <nhandler> paultag: Is that conky on the side?
[03:44] <paultag> nhandler, yup
[03:44] <paultag> nhandler, I want to have a few custom fluxbuntu themes that smoosh the package default
[03:44] <nhandler> Oh, duh. It even says so in the process list ;)
[03:44] <paultag> :)
[03:46] <paultag> nhandler, so I might roll some dscs and try and get them going. There's not been a fluxbuntu release since 9.04
[03:46] <paultag> This is my help-the-MOTU cycle nhandler :)
[03:47] <paultag> ( finally )
[03:49] <nhandler> :)
[03:58] <nigelb> w00t, facebook replied to Ken.
[04:17] <nigelb> Good morning all :)
[07:53] <ara> good morning
[08:13] <dholbach> good morning!
[08:13] <dholbach> hey dpm
[08:14] <paultag> morning dholbach :)
[08:14] <dholbach> hey paultag
[08:14] <paultag> dholbach, How are you today?
[08:15] <kim0> morning everyone :)
[08:15] <dpm> morning dholbach!
[08:15] <dpm> good morning kim0!
[08:15] <dholbach> heya kim0
[08:15] <dpm> and good morning everyone!
[08:16] <kim0> dholbach: dpm howdy folks
[08:16] <dholbach> how are you all doing?
[08:17] <paultag> Well, thank you. Working on learning more about packaging. I'm finally going to devote the next 2 cycles to doing MOTU work.
[08:18] <dholbach> woohoo!
[08:18] <paultag> I have the basics done, and now, I'm doing a new seeded live distro with metapackages for fluxbox ( bringing back fluxbuntu )
[08:18] <nigelb> Morning all!
[08:18] <paultag> It's going well so far, no issues, life's good.
[08:18]  * nigelb ^5 paultag 
[08:18] <paultag> ^5 nigelb
[08:19] <paultag> http://people.ubuntu.com/~paultag/seeds/ <-- cute, eh? :)
[08:21] <nisshh> paultag, nice! :)
[08:21] <paultag> help is way more then welcome -- it's still unofficial, but it's one of my one-year goals, along with working with ubuntu studio :)
[08:21] <paultag> nisshh, ^
[08:22] <paultag> I need to talk with JoeJaxx to get permission and stuff
[08:22] <nisshh> paultag, i see
[08:22] <paultag> :)
[08:23] <paultag> nisshh, http://i.imgur.com/qgkgg.png <-- what I have so far
[08:23] <paultag> Yes, I know that's debian. Jokes after I'm happy with it, plox :)
[08:23] <nisshh> hehe
[08:24] <nisshh> paultag, that looks better than the default fluxbox look :)
[08:24] <paultag> Oh gee thanks
[08:24] <nisshh> :)
[08:24] <paultag> nisshh, I'm upstream in deb for fluxbox as well :P
[08:24] <paultag> nisshh, that'll be merged up there soon enough ;)
[08:25] <paultag> Fluxbox will finally not be so lame in the next year :)
[08:29] <paultag> and on that note, good night ya'll. It's 3:30, time for some sleep :)
[08:29] <nisshh> oh yeah
[08:34] <dholbach> brb, new kernel
[09:30] <czajkowski> jcastro: pretty impressive application
[09:32] <duanedesign> hello czajkowski
[09:32] <czajkowski> morning folks
[09:32] <duanedesign> was an impressive application
[09:32] <czajkowski> yup
[09:33] <czajkowski> colombia was the same
[09:33] <czajkowski> as was france
[09:33] <czajkowski> those 3 have stood out this cycle as been a very high standard
[09:39] <dholbach> hola randa
[09:42] <randa> hi dholbach!
[10:06] <czajkowski> randa: you rock!
[10:09] <randa> czajkowski: ?
[10:09] <randa> czajkowski: thank you
[10:16] <czajkowski> cd's
[10:16] <czajkowski> being organised
[10:32] <dholbach> nigelb, what's happening with "Emmet to clarify buckets..." in the blueprint - it's the only remaining item AFAICS
[12:12] <nigelb> dholbach: aaah, I asked him once
[12:12] <nigelb> let me try again
[12:34] <nigelb> dholbach: Emmet agreed to clear it pre-UDS
[12:57] <dholbach> nigelb, ok
[13:06] <akgraner> doctormo, you around? and if so would you have time for a quick 10 min or so call today?
[13:20] <akgraner> dinda, how was your talk last week?
[13:21] <dinda> akgraner: good, very excithing to have been there
[13:22] <dinda> akgraner: are you going to UDS?
[13:22] <akgraner> yep
[13:22] <akgraner> will you be there?
[13:23] <dinda> not sure, was going to try to make it to last few days but looks uncertain now
[13:24] <akgraner> hope you'll make it - would love to talk more to you about Ubuntu in Education and catch up as well
[13:25] <dinda> akgraner: yes, me too. speaking of that topic, was going to ask about article ideas for UU or other places
[13:25] <akgraner> dinda, do you have time for a call?
[13:26] <dinda> akgraner: I'm about to jump on a call in 4 minutes but have time after that
[13:26] <akgraner> cool - just ping me
[13:26] <dinda> akgraner: ok, will do, thanks
[13:30] <nisshh> akgraner, got a minute?
[13:30] <akgraner> dpm, was looking at goals for the news team for the -n cycle - translations are one of the goals - 1) how to use the translation stats or news to be more useful to readers 2) figure out who is translating UWN now and what is missing
[13:31] <akgraner> not my area of expertise would love to get your input at some point
[14:22] <randa> czajkowski: ping
[14:25] <akgraner> nisshh, sorry didn't see you ping - what's up
[14:28] <dpm> akgraner, sure, glad to hear translations will be one of the goals :). I'll just comment quickly on the points here, but we can discuss in more detail at UDS - it migt also be a good topic for the translations roundtable. 1) I've got some scripts to calculate Ubuntu translations statistics, but due to technical limitations, I cannot get data from the LP production database, I get them from the staging db. This means, that even if that might be
[14:28] <dpm> an option, stats might be out of date or not updated for a few weeks. 2) It might be a good idea to send an e-mail to ubuntu-translators and to loco-contacts to find that out and kick off a discussion
[14:29] <akgraner> dpm - will do thanks
[14:37] <jcastro> anyone remember where people are supposed to file community team bugs?
[14:38] <Pendulum> jcastro: can you take a look at https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-community/+spec/ubuntutheproject-n-improving-accessibility-devel-and-info and let me know if it's set-up correctly?
[14:39] <jcastro> Pendulum: you're missing the team, so ubuntutheproject-community-n-blah
[14:39] <jcastro> and then set the approver to jonobacon so he can schedule it
[14:39] <jcastro> and that's it!
[14:41] <duanedesign> jcastro:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-community ?
[14:42] <Pendulum> jcastro: done! also, can I request that it be on a day that isn't thursday? (one of the people who will want to be there won't be at UDS on Thursday, but should be every other day)
[14:43] <Pendulum> jcastro: thanks :)
[14:44] <jcastro> Pendulum: ensure the person registers their attendance properly on launchpad and the scheduler will Do the Right Thing
[14:44] <jcastro> duanedesign: thank you!
[14:44] <jcastro> paultag: yo yo
[14:44] <Pendulum> jcastro: there's no way to register "mon-wed" and "friday" for attendence. that's kinda the problem there, but I'll make sure she subscribes as "must be there"
[14:46] <jcastro> Pendulum: oh I see
[14:46] <jcastro> Pendulum: when jono approves it ping me and I'll schedule it manually.
[14:47] <czajkowski> randa: pong
[14:47] <Pendulum> jcastro: thanks :)
[14:47] <duanedesign> that Nicaraguan loco reapproval app gave me some good ideas...
[14:48] <jcastro> duanedesign: it gave me some good ideas too
[14:48] <jcastro> like giving up and going home, hahaha
[14:48] <duanedesign> :D
[14:48] <duanedesign> or moving to Nicaragua
[14:49] <jcastro> I got some email from cjohnston
[14:49] <jcastro> about something UDS related, I don't remember
[14:49] <jcastro> and he's like "I'm in Belize!"
[14:49] <jcastro> and I was thinking "what are you doing mailing someone about ubuntu when you're supposed to be on vacation."
[14:50] <dinda> akgraner: ping
[14:51] <Pendulum> jcastro: he's always on vacation. he'd have problems if he didn't mail people while on vacation :P
[14:51] <jcastro> czajkowski: paultag: any idea what's up with this? https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-community/+bug/392976
[14:51] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 392976 in ubuntu-community "Leadership CoC not given to LoCo Leads (affects: 3) (heat: 12)" [Medium,Confirmed]
[14:51] <akgraner> dinda, pong
[14:53] <czajkowski> jcastro: ahh that annoying bug
[14:53] <czajkowski> jcastro: folks sign the CoC but they do not sign the LCoC
[14:53] <jcastro> czajkowski: ok so it's still open then?
[14:53] <czajkowski> but we do hold people in leadership positions to it
[14:54] <jcastro> I am just looking through the ubuntu-community bugs
[14:54] <jcastro> but they're all kind of open ended
[14:54] <czajkowski> I am gonna be pushing for it to be translated with  dpm this cycle
[14:54] <czajkowski> and I'd love in some way for us to be able to sign that LCoC
[14:54] <jcastro> czajkowski: ok so you guys are on it then, cool and the gang
[14:54] <czajkowski> jcastro: so any help there would be great
[14:54] <czajkowski> jcastro: it's not just a loco council issue it's a higher one tbh, anyone on any team in a poision of leadership gets held to it
[14:54] <czajkowski> if you're a web admin or a ML admin
[14:54] <highvoltage> LCoC!?
[14:55] <highvoltage> oh right, LCoC. (haven't had coffee yet and assumed it was a Loco CoC :) )
[14:55] <jussi> yeah, signing the LCoC would be a good thing (TM)
[14:56] <jcastro> Daviey: I renamed a room and it kicked all the sessions out, I assume next run it'll just work itself out
[14:56] <czajkowski> indeed
[14:56]  * highvoltage wonders what effect project harmony will have on having a seperate CoC and LCoC
[14:57] <czajkowski> highvoltage: we already do have seperate ones
[14:57] <czajkowski> just one we sign and one we dont
[14:58] <highvoltage> czajkowski: I know that!
[14:58] <czajkowski> and in the past few weeks had we had people sign the LCoC I'd have had less issues :)
[15:00] <jcastro> dholbach: do you have access to the facebook group or is that jono only?
[15:03] <nisshh> akgraner, sorry, was afk, fixing my trailer at 10pm
[15:04] <nisshh> jcastro, got a minute?
[15:04] <jcastro> nisshh: just ask
[15:04] <dholbach> jcastro, I don't - no idea who else has access
[15:04] <Daviey> jcastro: we'll see :)
[15:04] <jcastro> Daviey: I have faith that it will
[15:04] <jcastro> I believe in you
[15:04] <nisshh> jcastro, about the UDS schedule, is it possible to get one session moved a bit?
[15:04] <jcastro> dholbach: ok good, I'll assign the bug to jono
[15:04] <Daviey> jcastro: i don't have faith
[15:04] <jcastro> nisshh: which one and from where to where?
[15:05] <nisshh> jcastro, the one about the book for opportunistic developers, and make it earlier
[15:05] <nisshh> it's currently on wednesday at noon
[15:05] <jcastro> and you want it on?
[15:05] <nisshh> 2-3 hours earlier would be great
[15:06] <jcastro> oh
[15:06] <jcastro> that's not our track
[15:06] <jcastro> appdevs, please ask rickspencer3
[15:06] <nisshh> jcastro, ah, ok, thanks
[15:06] <jcastro> It's rude for me to move another track's tracks, so ask them first please
[15:06] <jcastro> if he's busy tell him you talked to me and I just need his go ahead
[15:06] <jcastro> I have the power to move things
[15:07] <nisshh> jcastro, sure thing, he just quit irc a minute ago though :)
[15:07] <nisshh> jcastro, we should call you Zeus :)
[15:07] <Daviey> jcastro: I'm not convinced it will fix itself
[15:07] <jcastro> Daviey: I did it before the hour
[15:08] <jcastro> what happens to the sessions?
[15:08] <Daviey> jcastro: good question
[15:09] <Daviey> jcastro: What was it named, and what is it called now?
[15:09] <nisshh> maybe if i chant "Rick, Rick, Rick!" he will magically appear on IRC :)
[15:09] <jcastro> it was curacao 1
[15:09] <jcastro> and now it's bonaire 3
[15:09] <jcastro> Daviey: I was going to delete one and add the other, but figured renaming it would do the same
[15:09] <jcastro> Daviey: in hindsight I should have talked to you
[15:10] <Daviey> jcastro: tbh, i would have probably done the ame
[15:11] <jcastro> I am making an honest effort to not bug you with every little thing, honest!
[15:12] <Daviey> jcastro: np :)
[15:12] <Daviey> jcastro: seems we have a curacao 1+2?
[15:12] <jcastro> we do
[15:12] <jcastro> oh
[15:12] <jcastro> I see what you mean
[15:13] <jcastro> right, we had 1 and 1+2. 1+2 is the combined room
[15:13] <Daviey> is that right?
[15:13] <jcastro> so it's either 1+2 or 1 and 2.
[15:13] <Daviey> ahh
[15:13] <Daviey> jcastro: don't suppose you remember a session that was in the old slot, do you?
[15:13] <jcastro> no
[15:14] <jcastro> here comes the hindsight again
[15:14] <Daviey> heh
[15:14] <Daviey> jcastro: it's ok.. i found an old tab open :)
[15:14] <Daviey> jcastro: hmm... so, y bonaire 3 is a new room?
[15:15] <jcastro> right
[15:15] <Daviey> ahh, that is fine then
[15:15] <jcastro> Daviey: let's say it does lose the sessions
[15:15] <jcastro> it would just reimport them from lp right?
[15:15] <Daviey> jcastro: I think it's fine
[15:15] <Daviey> but yes
[15:15] <jcastro> wheww
[15:16] <Daviey> jcastro: I assume you set the tracks to be all uds-n ones for the room?
[15:16] <jcastro> I just renamed the titles
[15:16] <jcastro> but let me check
[15:17] <jcastro> yup, all set
[15:17] <akgraner> nisshh, no worries on a call now anyway :- )
[15:17] <nisshh> cool
[15:18] <Daviey> jcastro: rockin'
[15:22] <czajkowski> maco: ping pong
[15:29] <czajkowski> jcastro: you thought last nights team wiki was good have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ColombianTeam/TeamReApproval2010
[15:31] <jcastro> haha what
[15:31] <jcastro> seriously, wow.
[15:31] <jcastro> greg-g: we need to get into botany
[15:32] <czajkowski> jcastro: there are some amazing pages alright
[15:32] <czajkowski> I need to sit down and put them all on one page and use them as a reference
[15:32] <czajkowski> for teams to give them an idea, and yeah some are very fancy and massively detailed
[15:33] <czajkowski> nigelb: ping
[15:48] <czajkowski> jcastro: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ubuntutheproject-community-n-translations-translatable-coc
[15:49] <jcastro> czajkowski: is that the one you want on MWF?
[15:50] <czajkowski> jcastro: nope that's kinda like that bug you mentioned above
[15:50] <jcastro> oh
[15:50] <czajkowski> jcastro: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ubuntutheproject-n-loco-council this is the one for MWF please :)
[15:52] <jcastro> as soon as it's accepted I can schedule it
[15:52] <jcastro> he should be back tomorrow so I suspect he'll go and approve the pile
[15:52] <czajkowski> lovely jubbly
[15:52] <czajkowski> I can assume I'm not having my call with him again today
[15:53] <czajkowski> :)
[15:53] <dpm> jcastro, was that one not already approved?
[15:54] <jcastro> dpm: nope, if it's approved there's a green checkmark next to the uds-n
[15:55] <jcastro> czajkowski: I personally love it when all my calls are cancelled
[15:55] <dpm> jcastro, oh, sorry, yeah, you're right, I mixed up blueprints
[15:56] <czajkowski> jcastro: heh
[15:56] <JFo> same here, on the calls :)
[15:57] <dpm> I'd be also interested to know what MWF is: "Mercenaries Wrestling Federation" or "Mauritian Wildlife Foundation"?
[15:58] <czajkowski> Monday wednesday Friday
[15:58] <czajkowski> days which paultag can remote in as he's at college
[15:58] <Pendulum> personally, I prefer the Mercenaries Wrestling Federation. That sounds like fun
[16:01] <JFo> same here
[16:02] <JFo> Merovingian Wording Fund
[16:02] <dpm> yeah, no luck, I was hoping for that one too
[16:03] <czajkowski> ok ust for ye it can mean that ok
[16:03]  * dpm hugs czajkowski :)
[16:03] <jcastro> JFo: the phrase for this uds shall be ... "JFo, bring your knife"
[16:03] <dpm> this next UDS is going to be fun!
[16:03] <JFo> jcastro, :)
[16:04] <czajkowski> which brings me to what are ye lot dressing up as
[16:04] <jcastro> mine is a surprise
[16:04] <jcastro> :)
[16:04] <czajkowski> whos genius idea was this
[16:04] <JFo> ;-D
[16:07] <jcastro> I think it's one of the claires
[16:08] <jussi> that would make sense
[16:11] <jcastro> doctormo: I am confused, there's a billion places on the web to upload images
[16:13] <doctormo> jcastro: Maybe a list of them would be handy? I've had all sorts of failures with imagebin.ca and other services, plus we can't really see what's going on in the tempary image space for our community.
[16:13] <jcastro> make a list?
[16:13] <jcastro> I don't understand why this is a bug.
[16:14] <jcastro> imgur.com works for me
[16:23] <doctormo> jcastro: Yes, you pick somewhere and write down each of the URLs so others can use them.
[16:23] <jcastro> I think that's unnecessary, but you can go make a page if you want
[16:25] <doctormo> Thanks for your advice jcastro. I feel your being a bit peevish though.
[16:25] <jcastro> no
[16:25] <jcastro> I'm just saying, I don't see the point of filing a bug for a list of web services
[16:25] <jcastro> we don't have w.u.c/RecommendedSearchEngines
[16:25] <jcastro> or w.u.c/PhotoHostingServices
[16:26] <jcastro> anyway, imgur.com has been reliable for me if you want to try that
[16:26] <doctormo> Looks nice, I'm adding it to the list of bookmarks.
[16:44] <nigelb> czajkowski: pong.  -ngo right? I'll have to postpone
[16:45] <czajkowski> nope
[16:46] <nigelb> oh, ok, plain pong then :)
[16:48] <popey> MOO
[16:49] <nigelb> popey: hey! evening :)
[16:49]  * popey waves https://answers.launchpad.net/canonical-payment-service/+question/130402 at doctormo 
[16:49] <popey> given you're often interested in the subject of raising funds for FLOSS project, LUGs, LoCos, I thought this question may interest you.
[16:49] <jcastro> popey: hey did you go to that suse thing?
[16:50] <czajkowski> nigelb: see pm
[16:50] <popey> jcastro: Sadly not, my workload was too much this week. I let Mark know.
[16:50] <popey> told him last week
[16:51] <nigelb> czajkowski: from you? I see none :(
[16:51] <czajkowski> I just randomonly pm nigel
[16:52] <jcastro> popey: ah, paying work is always good though
[16:52] <popey> indeed!
[16:52] <jcastro> popey: I thought of you the other day, V for Vendetta was on.
[16:52] <jcastro> and there are english people in it
[16:52] <popey> Pip Pip!
[16:52] <popey> !uk
[16:52] <ubot2> Join us for a discussion using the Queen's English in #ubuntu-uk
[16:53] <popey> Oh jeez..
[16:53] <Pici> Was there any tea?
[16:54] <czajkowski> lol
[16:54] <czajkowski> !ie
[16:54] <ubot2> For Irish ubuntu support, visit #ubuntu-ie, agus tá uisce beatha agus cuidiú Ubuntu isteach an #ubuntu-ie, Béag fáilte ort!
[16:54] <czajkowski> :D
[16:54] <nigelb> !ubuntu-uk-popey
[16:54] <ubot2> Factoid 'ubuntu-uk-popey' not found
[16:54] <nigelb> dammit
[16:54] <czajkowski> facotids :D
[16:54] <popey> right, so after bug 406626, and getting that fixed before release..
[16:54] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 406626 in transmission (Ubuntu) (and 9 other projects) "Deleted Items Folder inconsistently named in en_GB localisation (affects: 14) (dups: 6) (heat: 112)" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/406626
[16:55] <popey> I mentioned on the podcast that lots of people complain about that name, "trash" in the UK.
[16:55] <popey> I also mentioned that one of the presenters of Tuxradar (another podcast) had mentioned the inconsistency
[16:55] <popey> now one of their listeners took that to mean that Tuxradar got it fixed :D
[16:55] <popey> http://www.tuxradar.com/content/podcast-season-2-episode-19 - "Finally Mike did it"
[16:59] <nigelb> popey: BAH!
[17:00] <popey> tis quite funny
[17:01] <doctormo> popey: That's a very good question, one I hope will be yes.
[17:01] <popey> Indeed
[17:01] <popey> and if the answer is "no" then it should be called "Canonical Pay", not "Ubuntu Pay" IMO
[17:02] <doctormo> popey: Well yes, but we've been down this road with UbuntuOne.
[17:02] <popey> Indeed we have, but thats a bit different IMO
[17:02] <popey> not much tho :)
[17:03] <doctormo> popey: True, at least the basic functionality for UO could be duplicated without much effort to free it up. But services like payment management is something that's much harder to do.
[17:03] <popey> yup
[17:03]  * nigelb is glad popey is taking up this discussion
[17:03] <popey> and the money goes directly to canonical AIUI
[17:04] <doctormo> So long as the money comes out again.
[17:04] <popey> yup
[17:15] <dinda>  pleia2:  did bodhi_zazen disappear completely?
[17:16] <pleia2> dinda: I haven't seen him in a while (I haven't tried contacting him though)
[17:17] <dinda> pleia2: just wondering the status of the moodle server - whether to recommend it or another for dpm's training blueprints
[17:19] <pleia2> dinda: unfortunately I haven't heard from anyone who was supposed to be working on the moodle stuff in months :(
[17:19] <pleia2> cprofitt will be at UDS, no word from Vantrax or bodhi_zazen
[17:20] <dinda> pleia2: really - would like to talk to cproffit
[17:20] <dpm> dinda, I'm just contemplating IRC right now for training sessions, so any other info or suggestions will be more than welcome. I'm not familiar with moodle, but I'll look at it. If you think of anything else, just ping me or feel free to add it to the whiteboard
[17:20] <dpm> thanks! :)
[17:20] <pleia2> dinda: at this point I'd suggest setting up an alternate one that the community can use
[17:21] <dinda> dpm:  it would take all of one afternoon to get you a good course outline that can be a self-study course by anyone
[17:21] <pleia2> moodle courses can be exported, if it becomes a political problem later (bodhi coming back and wondering why it's not hosted with him) it's easy enough to move classes around
[17:22] <dinda> dpm:  I'll send you a link to the Canonical course site, some examples - what you need would be small and easy to implement
[17:23] <dpm> dinda, that'd be awesome, thanks!
[17:23] <dinda> pleia2: yes, that's what's nice about moodle, things can be moved easily; also ported out to PDF
[17:38] <paultag> jcastro, just woke up my man. Did czajkowski help you out?
[17:38] <pleia2> you have a man?
[17:38] <pleia2> :P
[17:39] <czajkowski> *grin*
[17:39] <nigelb> pleia2: lol
[17:40] <nigelb> pleia2: that means you're back to normal sleep cycle? :)
[17:40] <popey> :)
[17:41] <czajkowski> nigelb: it means the Guinnness has left her system
[17:41] <pleia2> nigelb: not yet, but closer!
[17:41] <nigelb> czajkowski: haha.
[17:41] <nigelb> pleia2: yay
[17:41] <nigelb> czajkowski: Don't you folks forget to sing "Happy Birthday" for akgraner during UDS :D
[17:43] <popey> Can't, AOL will sue everyone
[17:44] <nigelb> meh, tell them to BEEP off
[17:44] <paultag> pleia2, oh snark snark :)
[17:45]  * nigelb goes to catch last bit of India bashing AU
[17:45] <nigelb> jussi: ^^ *evil grin*
[17:45] <jcastro> paultag: it's noon 45!
[17:45] <jcastro> man, I miss college
[17:45] <paultag> jcastro, dude I set up all my classes for M-W-F
[17:46] <paultag> jcastro, it's awesome. 4 day weekend, work, break, work, 4 day weekend
[17:46] <jcastro> hahahah
[17:46] <jcastro> I used to do that but on T-R
[17:50] <paultag> so legit
[17:50] <paultag> it's great
[18:04] <paultag> Oh yo jcastro, I've got a question that actually falls under what you're paid to do
[18:04] <nigelb> lol
[18:05] <paultag> jcastro, nigelb and I are going to start CPR on fluxbuntu. There look to be a few issues ( and it's not official because Jaxx was doing some funny things, I guess )
[18:05] <jcastro> I'm paid to help you fix fluxbuntu?
[18:05] <jcastro> j/k
[18:06] <jcastro> what do you need
[18:06] <paultag> ouch :P
[18:06] <paultag> jcastro, if we can get a working package set in a PPA, and show that it's set up right, how hard would it be to get it official?
[18:06] <jcastro> I am not sure what you mean
[18:06] <jcastro> like becoming an official derivative and whatnot?
[18:06] <paultag> jcastro, yes. I thought it was official, but it turns out it's not
[18:07] <nigelb> Its only a customization right now.  Not an official derivative.
[18:07] <jcastro> I don't recall what the process is
[18:07] <jcastro> though I would suspect getting the fixes you need in the distro would be a better step than a PPA
[18:08] <jcastro> paultag: ScottL does -studio, maybe he knows?
[18:08] <paultag> jcastro, the distro is dead. We'd be starting from scratch
[18:08] <jcastro> I can't remember the last time we did a derivative
[18:08] <jcastro> oh dude, talk to the lubuntu guys
[18:08] <jcastro> they've been going down this path
[18:08] <nigelb> Right.
[18:08] <paultag> Oh yeah, they rock
[18:08] <nigelb> Best idea.
[18:08] <paultag> cheers, thanks jcastro
[18:08] <nigelb> paultag: phillw
[18:08] <paultag> nigelb, roger
[18:09] <jcastro> paultag: when you find out what they did
[18:09] <jcastro> you should probably post on -devel
[18:09] <nigelb> write it down? :D
[18:09] <jcastro> with a list of things you think you need to do
[18:09] <nigelb> aha, I thought so
[18:09] <jcastro> and then that way people can help you list them out
[18:09] <paultag> jcastro, thanks :)
[18:11] <jcastro> paultag: out of curiosity
[18:11] <jcastro> why not just fix flux in normal ubuntu?
[18:12] <jcastro> or do you want something more clean?
[18:12] <paultag> jcastro, dude, flux is golden
[18:12] <paultag> jcastro, but flux is like metacity
[18:12] <paultag> jcastro, it's only a window manager, not a DE
[18:12] <jcastro> oh
[18:12] <paultag> jcastro, fluxbuntu is a whole DE, so I want to see the metapackage in Ubuntu
[18:12] <jcastro> so you want flux+other goodies for people who like flux
[18:12] <paultag> jcastro, so we can, you know, use fluxbox and stuff
[18:12] <paultag> :)
[18:12] <jcastro> so, you really need a session?
[18:12] <jcastro> like how netbook does it?
[18:12] <paultag> yeah
[18:13] <jcastro> a dropdown in gdm
[18:13] <paultag> I got that working
[18:13] <jcastro> oh dude, that's so much less work
[18:13] <paultag> yeah, that's what i'm saying, dog!
[18:14] <paultag> It's like 3 or 4 packages
[18:14] <nigelb> paultag: who are you and what did you do to the original paultag? :p
[18:14] <paultag> and I have one almost done. And the seeds set up
[18:15] <paultag> jcastro, I'm not looking to fork Ubuntu, if that's what you're thinking
[18:16] <paultag> I'm too lazy for that
[18:17] <nigelb> paultag: hah
[18:17] <nigelb> czajkowski: Almost done
[18:20] <czajkowski> nigelb: great :)
[18:21] <nigelb> czajkowski: cjohnston is going to throttle me
[18:21] <nigelb> He asked me to write something last UDS and I still haven't :p
[18:22] <jcastro> paultag: I didn't mean to imply that, I am just saying, derivatives are pretty hard work
[18:22] <paultag> jcastro, they sure are
[18:33] <jcastro> hey paultag
[18:33] <paultag> jcastro, yo
[18:33] <paultag> jcastro, we're rocking with rolling packages as fubuntu, fluxbuntu did not want us. They're a full blown fork ( just btw )
[18:33] <jcastro> if you're not doing anything today, can you try something for me?
[18:33] <paultag> jcastro, I'm your man
[18:33] <paultag> jcastro, what's up
[18:33] <jcastro> the package "openstv" doesn't show up with a menu
[18:34] <jcastro> I can file a bug but I want to be sure first
[18:34] <paultag> sec
[18:34] <paultag> trying it out now
[18:35] <paultag> jcastro, while it's downloading, I pulled the source -- looks like it has a .desktop file -- it installs to /usr/share/applications/openstv.desktop   <-- is it there?
[18:36] <jcastro> weird
[18:36] <paultag> jcastro, check under "office"
[18:37] <paultag> jcastro, I just found it here. I don't know why it's under Office, but it is
[18:37] <jcastro> mine is /usr/share/app-install/desktop/openstv.desktop
[18:37] <jcastro> that exists
[18:37] <paultag> whoh
[18:37] <jcastro> I mean in the app itself
[18:37] <jcastro> for me it's just a window with no menu
[18:38] <paultag> sec jcastro
[18:38] <paultag> jcastro, http://i.imgur.com/YmD01.jpg
[18:39] <paultag> jcastro, that's what I'm looking at
[18:39] <jcastro> I don't get that
[18:39] <jcastro> Mine is missing File, Edit, Options, etc.
[18:39] <paultag> jcastro, what DE?
[18:39] <paultag> jcastro, do you have gnome-globalmenu munching things up or something?
[18:40] <jcastro> I'm in normal gnome but I have the UNE stuff installed, but I am not using it
[18:40] <paultag> jcastro, and a terminal or something shows the menubar?
[18:40] <paultag> or gedit
[18:40] <jcastro> yep
[18:41] <jcastro> everything but this
[18:41] <paultag> Hummm
[18:48] <paultag> jcastro, I can't find any way to put it in failure mode
[18:48] <paultag> let me know if you find anything
[18:49] <jcastro> hmmm
[19:01] <Technoviking> Apple just a product named Launchpad. FUUUU
[19:02] <jcastro> hahaha
[19:03] <highvoltage> Technoviking: whoah! Link?
[19:03] <Technoviking> tell Mark to sell launchpad.net to Steve Jobs for a billion dollars, he is good at that.
[19:03] <highvoltage> (ah http://www.apple.com/webapps/productivity/launchpad.html)
[19:03] <Technoviking> no link yet, watching the Apple event
[19:03] <Pici> Texas Instruments also has a Arduino like platform called Launchpad.
[19:05] <paultag> Yes, but these are both webapps :(
[19:05] <pleia2> canonical holds the trademark for launchpad
[19:05] <pleia2> https://help.launchpad.net/Legal
[19:05] <Technoviking> I smell lawsuit :)
[19:05] <highvoltage> I guess Apple will probably just change the product name
[19:06] <paultag> "iLaunchpad
[19:06] <paultag> "
[19:06] <highvoltage> iLaunch
[19:06]  * highvoltage bbl... iLunch
[19:06] <paultag> heh
[19:42] <doctormo> Interesting trademark dispute in waiting, apple have shown themselves rather a knack of tripping on them. First with Apple it's self and then with iPhone and iPad.
[19:43] <doctormo> But this product looks to be the work of some other company.