[00:13] <RoyK> icek: for a router you might want to do some NATing
[00:13] <RoyK> unless you're behind    a NAT router already
[00:16] <icek> royk i fixed it all!
[00:16] <icek> royk it all works!
[00:16] <icek> nat'ed
[00:16] <icek> and all
[00:25] <RoyK> icek: what was the fix for the network thing?
[00:27] <icek> lol i dunno
[00:27] <icek> i unplugged EVERYTHING
[00:27] <icek> LIKE 20 cables
[00:27] <icek> and just used that one computer
[00:27] <icek> on my router
[00:27] <icek> and it worked lol
[00:39] <icek> royk, whats the easiest way to install cacti
[00:39] <icek> and set i tup
[00:43]  * RoyK is tired and goes to sleep soon
[01:06] <netritious> I have a remote host "pfg" logging to syslog on hardy on my local network. What do I add to /etc/syslog.conf in order to have messages from pfg written to /var/log/pfg.log instead of /var/log/syslog ?
[01:46] <latenite> Hi folks, I am trying to format ma usb pendrive  but it fails -without error- http://pastie.org/1234249 what am I doing wrong here ? thanks
[01:47] <twb> Looks like the stick didn't like you removing its partition table.
[01:48] <twb> The file /dev/sdb doesn't exist, which implies that kernel lost contact with the device, and udev removed it from /dev.
[01:48] <twb> Try removing and reinserting the device; check dmesg before and after.
[01:48] <_Techie_> replug the device
[01:49] <_Techie_> also, mount -t ext /dev/sdb /mnt/stick/
[01:51] <latenite> http://pastie.org/1234261 no luck. I swear the stick is not broken...it workes fine befor formating it a minute ago
[01:52] <_Techie_> latenite, try -t extfs
[01:52] <_Techie_> been awhile since ive had to mount a removable drive, so im a bit rusty
[01:53] <arrrghhh> it's it -t <fs>
[01:53] <arrrghhh> so -t ext2?
[01:53] <arrrghhh> isn't it
[01:53] <_Techie_> well, i have a feeling that all extX's
[01:53] <arrrghhh> hrm
[01:53] <_Techie_> are put under one fs type
[01:53] <arrrghhh> yea, i think you're right... sorry :S
[01:54] <latenite> arrrghhh, _Techie_ I used mkfs.ext3 to format (sie paste) and -t ext3 fails.
[01:54] <arrrghhh> wait
[01:54] <arrrghhh> you formatted a flash card as ext3?!?
[01:54] <twb> _Techie_: if you look at the error, you can see that the block device doesn't exist; forcing a filesystem type won't help.
[01:55] <arrrghhh> i thought journaled FS are a big no-no on flash cards.
[01:55] <arrrghhh> i always format mine as ext2 or VFAT
[01:55] <latenite> twb, right. but why is taht so? after formating freshly
[01:55] <latenite> arrrghhh, why would the be a nono?
[01:56] <arrrghhh> the journaling screws up the cards i thought...
[01:56] <arrrghhh> not sure how that works on SSD's tho.
[01:56] <latenite> http://pastie.org/1234268
[01:57] <arrrghhh> does /dev/sdb even exist?
[01:57] <arrrghhh> it might've changed with the replug
[01:57] <latenite> sure http://pastie.org/1234268
[02:00] <latenite> any more ideas what is screwing that up?
[02:02] <arrrghhh> uhm
[02:02] <arrrghhh> i don't get it, does /dev/sdb exist or not?
[02:03] <arrrghhh> do a 'ls -lah /dev/disk/by-uuid'
[02:16] <twb> latenite: because your key is crap?
[02:16] <latenite> twb, cfdisk sais: Warning!!  Unsupported GPT (GUID Partition Table) detected. Use GNU Parted.
[02:16] <latenite> wtf is that? :)
[02:16] <arrrghhh> you need to recreate the partition table.
[02:17] <arrrghhh> or, perhaps, create would be the correct word.
[02:17] <twb> latenite: sounds like there was a GPT partition table there, and you didn't correctly remove it.
[02:17] <twb> Write zeroes over the first megabyte, then mke2fs -j /dev/sdb again.
[02:23] <latenite> twb, still no luck : http://pastie.org/1234311
[03:42] <chiapagringo> Does anyone know how to improve the speeed of NFS on Ubuntu?  Or maybe can someone point me to a good webpage on the same?
[03:51] <twb> chiapagringo: increase the block size?
[03:57] <chiapagringo> ok, on both the server and client?
[03:57] <chiapagringo> sorry for the stupid question.  this is my first NFS config
[03:58] <chiapagringo> but I did get it up and running!  Now I just need it to go faster...  :-)
[04:02] <chiapagringo> twb:  On both the client & server, or just the client?  I think both, correct?
[04:03] <twb> One moment
[04:04] <twb> I use these in exports(5): (ro,async,all_squash,nohide,no_subtree_check,insecure_locks)
[04:04] <twb> I can't be bothered finding a client
[04:05] <chiapagringo> understood
[04:06] <twb> (They're thinclients in another state and I don't have ssh into them)
[04:06] <chiapagringo> I will look at my export settings
[04:06] <chiapagringo> much appreciated
[04:07] <twb> Most of it's client side IIRC
[05:21] <Flam`> So I did a remote upgrade from ubuntu server 8.04 lts to 10.04 lts, and then restarted the server.  After waiting more than 2 hours, I still wasn't able to SSH into my server.  I found out that I have KVM/IP on my server so I logged into that and I see that my server is stuck on the loading screen:  "Ubuntu 10.04  . . . ." and the dots keep changing colors but it never actually boots
[05:21] <Flam`> in.  Any ideas what caused this?
[05:27] <Flam`> And now the screen is blank (all black)
[06:14] <etcetera> anyone know of a non-zimbra caldav / imap solution that's fairly easy to implement?
[06:20] <etcetera> I guess it doesn't exist...
[06:22] <demonspork> I am using Ubuntu 10.04 and I installed wordpress and it functioned fine for multiple sites - but suddenly without me changing any settings it doesn't work at all, just "This link appears to be broken" when I attempt to visit the URL for the wordpress. What do I need to check because I am lost on attempting to troubleshoot this
[06:23] <demonspork> now when I try to even completely clear the wordpress settings, start from scratch and go through an install guide, I can't get it to work
[06:25] <qman__> Flam`, press escape
[07:49] <ttx> SpamapS: still around ?
[08:03] <ttx> kim0: looking at the specs you added to the cloud track...
[08:04] <ttx> kim0: I think the subjects make sense, but there are too many of them
[08:04] <ttx> kim0: it might make sense to regroup some of them for discussion purposes, even if that means splitting them again after UDS
[08:05] <ttx> kim0: if you have sessions with a short subject, people won't show up
[08:05] <kim0> ttx: yeah, I think I will change that
[08:06] <ttx> kim0: at least merge screencast library and training sessions
[08:06] <ttx> kim0: also, do you think we need to discuss "present at cloud conferences" at UDS ?
[08:06] <ttx> kim0: that sounds like a Canonical only thing
[08:07] <kim0> ttx: I don't really ..
[08:08] <ttx> kim0: if it doesn't really need discussion, then you can mention it in the training session+screencast library session at UDS
[08:49] <nagchampa> i've just installed a mysql server with ubuntu server, and we are migrating the database from centos, which keeps the data in /var/lib/mysql/data and we had backupscripts that we want to keep looking there
[08:50] <nagchampa> i've changed the my.cnf to have that as the data dir, there was a couple of files i wasn't sure if they should remain in /var/lib/mysql or be moved too
[08:51] <nagchampa> i found that mysql_upgrade_info should be put in the data dir, but should I move debian-5.1.flag to the data dir too? or is it a package manager flag, and should remain in /var/lib/mysql
[09:11] <JamesPage> ttx:  hey - have you got time to discuss bug 660421?  Might be worth a SRU for maverick
[09:17] <ttx> JamesPage: will look in a few
[09:17] <JamesPage> ttx: ta
[09:30] <ttx> JamesPage: yes, nominating
[09:31] <JamesPage> ttx: apologies for the delay in this one; I incorrectly marked it as invalid once a workaround was provided (obviously did not have my brain engaged that day)
[09:50] <sanduz2> do you guys think if i use a ppa for a webserver software, instead of the ubunt-server default package, that it will be less stable?
[09:51] <_ruben> depends on the ppa
[09:51] <_ruben> well, the maintainer of the ppa that is
[09:51] <sanduz2> oh, im using the one for cherokee
[09:51] <sanduz2> how can you tell? if they have lots of open tickets n stuff?
[09:52] <_ruben> that, and the description of the ppa can contain hints as well .. it the description mentions "just for fun" for instance
[09:52] <_ruben> could also contact the maintainer and ask how important that ppa is to him/her
[09:53] <sanduz2> hm, they just describe the product and have no open bugs
[09:53] <sanduz2> thanks ill probably contact them
[09:58] <a_ok> I find that apache has quite large virtmem size: 170M. It is a default configuration with php5 (10.04). on my laptop (archlinux) apache with php5 only uses 25M. whats wrong with my ubuntu installation?
[10:09] <sanduz2> hey _ruben, the web server i use only releases source code and it looks like binary packages are maintained by other people who volunteer. so how does this compare to the official package in ubuntu-server? who works on that?
[10:13] <_ruben> "Ubuntu Developers" .. basically consisting of the ubuntu core developers and the motus
[10:14] <sanduz2> hmm ok thanks, and since many more users use that it should be more stable huh
[10:14] <_ruben> more users -> more bugs can be found -> if those bugs are fixed, it should be (more) stable :)
[10:14] <twister004> hi everytbody!.. is it safe to upgrade to ubuntu 10.10(Meerkat)?
[10:14] <twister004> or is this in a beta Phase?
[10:15] <twister004> _ruben.. ur saying it's not safe?.. is 10.04
[10:15] <sanduz2> thanks :]
[10:15] <twister004> 10.04(my current version) good enough?
[10:15] <_ruben> twister004: i was responding to sanduz2
[10:16] <_ruben> twister004: 10.10 has been released offically (not beta anymore)
[10:16] <twister004> _ruben.. is it safe to upgrade from 10.04(LTS) to 10.10?
[10:16] <twister004> is this LTS too?..
[10:16] <_ruben> no, not LTS
[10:16] <_ruben> 12.04 is likely to be LTS again
[10:17] <_ruben> i'd stick with 10.04 (being LTS), unless you really need a feature/whatever that's present in 10.10
[10:18] <twister004> so.. if I upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10, will there be any issues w.r.t LTS or something like that?
[10:18] <twister004> _ruben.. is there a 10.04 non-LTS version too?
[10:19] <_ruben> no (except you'll need to change a update manager setting, as by default lts only upgrades to next lts) and no
[10:32] <xampart> how can manage how many kernel-version are being kept?
[10:33] <twb> xampart: you can't
[10:33] <twb> By default, apt/dpkg will *never* automatically remove a kernel package.
[10:34] <twb> I guess you could disable that safety net if you really wanted to; it's in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/
[10:37] <xampart> twb: i have kernel-versions from 2.6.24.-19 to 2.6.32-24 now, and would like to make space for 2.6.32-25 in /boot/
[10:38] <xampart> so i think 3 or 4 latest versions would suffice
[10:41] <twb> I always just go into aptitude's GUI and manually purge the oldest
[10:43] <xampart> hmph....so no reasonable way to make automatic removal.
[10:43] <twb> xampart: if you find one, let me know
[10:44] <lau> I am trying to setup openldap on my lucid server
[10:45] <lau> I use slapd.conf file and set backend / database hdb
[10:45] <lau> what is the difference between rootdn "cn=root,dc=foo,dc=bar"
[10:45] <lau> and access to ... by dn="cn=admin,dc=foo,dc=bar"
[10:46] <lau> why not use cn=root in the acl ?
[10:48] <twb> Because the root bind DN isn't the same as the unix root user?
[10:50] <lau> do you mean ldap root != unix root user ?
[10:51] <twb> Basically
[10:58] <lau> ok so rootdn "cn=Manager,dc=example,dc=com"
[10:58] <lau> is the slapd.conf directive that define the root bind DN am i right ?
[11:00] <_ruben> ladp is something i definately needa move up on my todo list gradually
[11:00] <_ruben> ldap too
[11:07] <lau> point is anytime I dpkg-reconfigure slapd
[11:08] <lau> my slapd.conf is erased and replaced by slapd.conf dir with new configuration via ldiff
[11:08] <lau> this is really anyoing since I loose the existing conf.
[11:09] <ubuN3wb3> who knows about the wlanstick "wg111v2"?to aktivate it in ubunto
[11:16] <cwillu_at_work> lau, dpkg-divert is your friend
[11:17] <lau> ok cwillu_at_work do you use it with ldap ?
[11:20] <lau> it seems that we cannot divert directories with dpkg-divert :(
[11:20] <cwillu_at_work> no, but if you haven't tried it, you should
[11:20] <cwillu_at_work> oh, I thought this was just a file
[11:21] <lau> thx for sharing this cmd with me :)
[11:22] <lau> I don't think that will fix my issue but it is a cmd to know
[11:34] <xampart> i try to reinstall newest kernel-update, but get this error:
[11:34] <xampart> E: I wasn't able to locate file for the linux-image-2.6.32-25-server package. This might mean you need to manually fix this package.
[11:34] <xampart> E: Internal error: couldn't generate list of packages to download
[11:34] <xampart> the original install failed due to not enough space
[11:35] <xperia> hello to all. i have strange permission problems with dovecot !
[11:35] <xperia> dovecot: 2010-10-20 12:05:11 Error: auth-worker(default): pam(info@mydomain,127.0.0.1): pam_authenticate() failed: Authentication failure
[11:35] <xperia> dovecot: 2010-10-20 12:05:11 Fatal: chdir(/usr/local/virtual/mydomain/info) failed with uid 150: Permission denied
[11:35] <xperia> dovecot: 2010-10-20 12:05:11 Error: child 22644 (imap) returned error 89 (Fatal failure)
[11:35] <xperia> can somebody help me finding out where exactly the problem is. i just dont get whise what is wrong here.
[12:02] <alvin> (Lucid. eth0 is configured in /etc/network/interfaces ) If I do: $ sudo ifdown eth0, I see the message: interface eth0 not configured
[12:15] <_ruben> alvin: you can't "down" an interface that's already "down"
[12:18] <alvin> _ruben: The command is executed when the interface is up
[12:19] <_ruben> alvin: then something went wrong while bringing up the interface, as the system thinks the interface isn't up
[12:20] <alvin> Nothing looks wrong. Interface is up. I can then bring it down with $ sudo ifconfig down eth0, but not with ifdown
[12:22] <_ruben> what does it say when you do ifconfig down eth0 followed by ifup eth0 ?
[12:31] <alvin> _ruben: Well, the interface goes down (I can't see anything, because I do not have physical access.) ifup brings the interface up, but does not set the gateway
[12:33] <_ruben> so ifup probably bails out with an error (due to the gateway issue), and doesn't mark the interface up ("up" has a different meaning for ifup/ifdown and ifconfig)
[12:37] <alvin> ah
[12:37] <alvin> I'll read some documentation then. Nothing looks wrong with /etc/network/interfaces. I can restart the networking service, and everything is set right. Only ifdown does not work.
[12:56] <SpamapS> ttx: I'm up now, still need me?
[12:57] <ttx> SpamapS: yes, but you should be sleeping, no ?
[12:57] <SpamapS> ttx: tell that to my 1 year old
[12:57] <ttx> hehe
[12:57] <ttx> two questions
[12:58] <ttx> 1- do you think web-scaling-tech would benefit from being split into multiple sessions ? Or we can run one and schedule another next week if needed
[12:58] <ttx> I used to think the former, but now I'm inclined to the latter.
[12:59] <ttx> 2- There is high demand for a PXE server / netboot / preseeder task
[12:59] <SpamapS> ttx: I think each topic within should be fairly rapid. If there weren't so many un-packaged technologies, I'd have just left it off the session list as its clear we need to package some of them... but with so many, I want to have a chat about prioritization.
[12:59] <ttx> not sure   	 cloud-server-n-install-service would cover for it
[13:00] <ttx> would you be for a separate session on the subject ?
[13:00] <SpamapS> pxe/boot/presseder, isn't mathiaz working on some of that?
[13:00] <ttx> SpamapS: ack on (1)
[13:00] <ttx> I'll check with him if that is included or concurrent
[13:00] <ttx> SpamapS: ok, thx
[13:01] <SpamapS> I thought we already had a good pxe boot + pressed procedure..
[13:01] <ttx> SpamapS: it's still a bit painful to install
[13:01] <SpamapS> hah pressed.. preseed
[13:01] <ttx> SpamapS: the idea would be to make it straghtforward for users
[13:01] <SpamapS> The last time I pxe booted a debian box was 2003
[13:01] <ttx> mathiaz's spec is geared towards cloud deployments
[13:02] <SpamapS> but with rhel/centos its realy intuitive and simple
[13:02] <ttx> so I'm not sure that would cover that "easy" bit
[13:02] <ttx> I'll see with him.
[13:02] <SpamapS> yeah, I'd be happy to run a session on that, though I won't have time to actually try out the current situation, I do know how it *should* work.
[13:03] <ttx> ack, thx
[13:04] <SpamapS> BTW, I'm thinking of doing a lightning talk on Drive + Fedex days.
[13:05] <ttx> SpamapS: you're on your own, buddy
[13:05] <SpamapS> :)
[13:06] <SpamapS> hmm looks like I have one participation conflict
[13:07] <SpamapS> I guess I don't *have* to be at the cloudera hadoop session
[13:07] <ttx> SpamapS: the current planning is far from definitive
[13:08] <ttx> set yourself as essential were you WANT/need to be
[13:08] <ttx> I'll do nightmare-planning tomorrow morning :)
[13:08] <SpamapS> thats what I've done. :)
[13:08] <ttx> good.
[13:08] <SpamapS> I did 17 sessions tho
[13:08] <ttx> woo
[13:08] <SpamapS> I think somebody warned against more than 15
[13:15] <ScottK> SpamapS: Don't worry.  There will be more invented at UDS, so you'll do more than you plan on.
[13:23] <noaXess> hi all.
[13:23] <noaXess> for a new server.. should i use 10.10 or 10.04 lts?
[13:25] <Hobart> Depends how long you want support available for it :)
[13:26] <Hobart> 10.04 will be supported with patches 'til 2015, 10.10 until april 2012 I believe.
[13:27] <noaXess> Hobart: hm...
[13:27] <noaXess> what would you choose?
[13:27] <noaXess> but 10.10 can be upgraded anytime to a supported version or any other..
[13:27] <noaXess> hm..
[13:28] <noaXess> what is the next lts version? does it come in 2015 or earlier?
[13:28] <Hobart> I don't mind upgrading, for something major I'd use 10.10.  For something I intend to leave in a back room and forget about I'd use LTS. (or debian stable >.>)
[13:28] <Hobart> LTS is biannual, so april 2012 I believe.
[13:28] <noaXess> Hobart: .. it will be a vbox host..
[13:29] <Hobart> since virtualization stuff is still relatively new and improving, I think newer is better...
[13:29] <noaXess> ok.. it's just a choice ;)..
[13:29] <Hobart> (my opinion, I'm just some guy in a chat room)
[13:29] <noaXess> hehe..
[13:30] <tdn> Ubuntu Server gives me this motd: http://paste.adora.dk/P1796.html How is this generated? How do I get this on my Ubuntu Desktop machines?
[13:30] <noaXess> tdn: after 9.10 i think thats also on a desktop..
[13:30] <Hobart> tdn -> http://joshmoles.com/2009/01/21/supercharge-the-ubuntu-motd/ ?
[13:31] <Hobart> (landscape-common ?)
[13:31] <tdn> noaXess, no, I use 10.04 desktop and it is not there.
[13:31] <noaXess> tdn: hm...
[13:31] <tdn> Hobart, you mean that I should just install landscape-common?
[13:33] <tdn> Hobart, thanks.
[13:35] <Hobart> tdn -> appears to have worked on my 10.10 lappy
[13:41] <RoyK^> noaXess: I'd use 10.04 unless there was something I really needed in 10.10
[13:42] <noaXess> RoyK^: but it's not wrong to use 10.10 right?
[13:42] <noaXess> i think for a virtual host it will be ok to use 10.01
[13:42] <noaXess> 10.10 ^
[13:43] <RoyK^> noaXess: of course, it'll probably work, but it's more hassle, since 10.10 won't be supported more than 18 months
[13:43] <RoyK^> but then, if it's not an important server, go on
[13:44] <noaXess> RoyK^: you also build a virtual host? what do you use then?
[13:48] <RoyK^> noaXess: I use 10.04 for most stuff, except some older boxes still on 8.04
[13:48] <RoyK^> the 8.04 will be supported until april 2013, so I'm not in a hurry upgrading them...
[13:51] <ehcah>  My server is providing its DNS and DHCP services correctly, however clients are not able to access the internet.  I'm fairly confident it's a stupid mistake I've made with the default routing on eth0.
[13:53] <pmatulis> ehcah: can a client ping the external address of your server?
[13:53] <pmatulis> (external = the interface closest to the internet)
[13:54] <ehcah> pmatulis:  eth0?
[13:54] <noaXess> RoyK^: ok... thanks for information..
[13:54] <pmatulis> i'm assuming client traffic is going through the server
[13:54] <pmatulis> ehcah: ^
[13:54] <RoyK^> ehcah: is your server a router?
[13:54] <ehcah> pmatulis:  Yes. I only want the Telco gateway to provide Internet to my server and my server everyone else.
[13:55] <ehcah> RoyK: In this case, yes.
[13:55] <RoyK^> ehcah: have you enabled ip forwarding? have you configured it to NAT the client traffic?
[13:56] <ehcah> RoyK:  I don't know where to look. I've been through all the files I find to edit. No GUI, Webmin or eBox this time are leaving me stupider than usual.
[13:58] <ehcah> RoyK:  Is this additional information I add to  /etc/network/interfaces
[13:58] <RoyK^> ehcah: echo 'net.ipv4.ip_forward = 1' >> /etc/sysctl.conf ; sysctl -p
[13:58] <RoyK^> that will enable ip forwarding
[13:59] <RoyK> ehcah: iptables -t nat -D POSTROUTING -s 10.0.0.0/22 -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE
[13:59] <RoyK> change the ip addresses to the ones the clients have and eth0 to whatever nic is on the internet side
[14:00] <RoyK> then try again
[14:00] <ehcah> I don't have permission for the first command using sudo?
[14:01] <RoyK> sudo -i
[14:01] <RoyK> then run those commands
[14:04] <ehcah> RoyK:  iptables: no chain/target/match that name.
[14:05] <RoyK> eh
[14:05] <RoyK> sorry
[14:05] <ehcah> the first command worked though.
[14:05] <RoyK> -A
[14:05] <RoyK> not -D
[14:05] <RoyK> iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 10.0.0.0/22 -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE
[14:05] <RoyK> sort of
[14:05] <RoyK> -D is delete
[14:05] <ehcah> I thought I had disabled the "root" account. Did I just become root for that command only?
[14:05] <RoyK> sudo -i
[14:05] <RoyK> -i == interactive
[14:05] <RoyK> disabled root means you can't login as root over ssh
[14:06] <ehcah> ah.
[14:06] <Pici> RoyK: Er, you can if you use key-based auth.
[14:06] <RoyK> you will always have the possibility to run, say, bash with sudo
[14:06] <RoyK> Pici: not on my servers :)
[14:06] <Pici> By default you can.
[14:06] <RoyK> yeah
[14:06] <ehcah> Using sudo, I get.  Actually getting the ROOT prompt, surprised me.
[14:07] <ehcah> root... prompt should have said.
[14:07] <RoyK> well, sudo lets you run something as root, and now it's running a shell
[14:07] <RoyK> meaning you're root
[14:07] <ehcah> got it.
[14:07] <RoyK> anywy - try -A with iptables
[14:08] <RoyK> it won't survive a reboot, but we'll get to that later
[14:08] <ehcah> Ran the command succesfully.
[14:08] <ehcah> I had already given my eth0 a static IP and set a DHCP range in /etc/dhcp3/ last night.
[14:09] <ehcah> Is there something else I should do before turning off DHCP on my Telco Gateway and rebooting my laptop?
[14:10] <RoyK> does your linux box get an official ip from the telco when you connect it directly?
[14:10] <RoyK> start with checking that
[14:11] <alonswartz> hey folks - any puppet experts in the room? I would like to discuss a possible idea for a session in UDS.
[14:12] <ehcah> No.  My gateway get's its external IP through DHCP from the Telco.  I assign the gateway an address of 192.168.1.5 and turn off DHCP services. eth0 is statically assigned 192.168.1.25 and DHCP Server and DNS Server are started.
[14:12] <RoyK> ok, and then the clients are on 192.168.2.0/24 ?
[14:13] <RoyK> btw, no need to disable the dhcp server on the gateway so long as only the linux box is connected to it - dhcp won't pass through a router
[14:14] <ehcah> This may not be correct, but I start the DHCP rante at 192.168.1.100-175.  I assume the I should have answered you like 192.168.1.0/24
[14:14] <RoyK> never mind that
[14:14] <RoyK> that's the dhcp server on the telco's router, right?
[14:15] <ehcah> RoyK - It must be the way my devices are plugged into my switches, but I have found the gateway and my server to be in competition sometimes if I do not disable it.
[14:15] <RoyK> ehcah: pastebin 'ifconfig -a', please
[14:16] <RoyK> ehcah: then the cabling is wrong - use a direct cable (it might need to be crossover, but I doubt it) from the telco router to the linux box. then connect the linux box's internal nic to the switch
[14:16] <ehcah> RoyK:  That would be my problem then.  I am not using eth1 at all.
[14:17] <ehcah> How can I pastebin from a putty ssh terminal session?
[14:17] <RoyK> eh
[14:17] <ehcah> I can not copy and paste?
[14:17] <RoyK> you're setting up a router with _one_ nic?
[14:17] <RoyK> that won't work
[14:18] <RoyK> that is, it might work if you're a good linux hacker, but AFAICS you're not
[14:18] <RoyK> so get another nic
[14:44] <noaXess> have a 3ware 9650SE raid controller in my server... have build a raid1 and a raid5 in the controller.. but i can't see them in my ubuntu server setup?.. need i a driver to access the raid? i thought a driver with a hardware rai controller isn't needed??
[14:54] <noaXess> =??
[14:54] <RoyK> noaXess: 9650SE should be supported
[14:55] <noaXess> RoyK: doesn't work.. hm... can it be cause the raid isn't finaly initialed?
[14:55] <RoyK> I don't think so - I think  that can be done i the background
[14:55] <RoyK> what does lshw say?
[14:55] <noaXess> RoyK: so i don't need any driver to use on server setup right? or need i choose the 3w9xxxx driver?
[14:56] <noaXess> RoyK: just a moment.. will check
[14:57] <RoyK> I've setup a dozen or more servers with 3ware controllers, and it's never been a problem except once where the distro was too old for a pci express card
[14:59] <noaXess> RoyK: the raid will be builded in foreground.. so is it then possible that's it's not ready for use?
[14:59] <noaXess> i see the controller and can control the attached hd's
[15:00] <RoyK> I guess you're right
[15:00] <noaXess> RoyK: so build the raid in background and use it while it wil be builded, right?
[15:00] <noaXess> sorry.. long time ago i worked with a hardware controller ;)..
[15:00] <RoyK> yes
[15:00] <noaXess> ok..
[15:01] <RoyK> if you choose to build in the foreground, a reboot will probably interrupt that
[15:02] <mathiaz> ttx: o/
[15:03] <ttx> mathiaz: mumble
[15:11] <noaXess> RoyK: same... have created a raid1 background and the oder raid5 in he background.. but can't see them in ubuntu server installatio.. lshw isn't available in server install..
[15:12] <mathiaz> SpamapS: http://confoo.ca/en <- interesting to you?
[15:13] <noaXess> RoyK: lspci will show me the 3ware controller
[15:13] <noaXess> hm...
[15:15] <RoyK> noaXess: nothing in /proc/partitions either?
[15:17] <noaXess> RoyK: no..
[15:17] <RoyK> 10.04?
[15:17] <noaXess> RoyK: in the mainboard bios, boot settings i can just choose the 3ware controller.. and not the two raid's i created..
[15:17] <noaXess> 10.04.1
[15:18] <RoyK> it's normal that the mainboard bios doesn't see raid controllers like ordinary drives
[15:18] <RoyK> well, after all the talk of not using 10.10 for servers, this is one of the reasons to try it - new hardware...
[15:19] <noaXess> RoyK: ok...
[15:19] <noaXess> download........
[15:20] <noaXess> RoyK: you wrote that the 3w 9650 is supported.. from who? unbuntu 10.04?
[15:21] <RoyK> well, there might be newer firmware revisions around...
[15:21] <noaXess> RoyK: ah you wrote: should be.. hm.. trying 10.10 after downloading and burning..
[15:21] <noaXess> we will see..
[15:22] <RoyK> http://pastebin.com/fphEgXDV <-- this is from a 10.04 server
[15:22] <RoyK> a cute little 1U pizzabox with 64 gigs of RAM and 2x8-core CPUs :D
[15:23] <noaXess> RoyK: yes.. same controller here..hm...
[15:23] <noaXess> RoyK: and your setup was without any driver?
[15:23] <RoyK> noaXess: this is a 2-port controller
[15:23] <noaXess> i have the 4port
[15:23] <RoyK> driver is included
[15:23] <noaXess> no.. also 2port controller for 8 hd's
[15:23] <noaXess> 4 each port
[15:24] <RoyK> erm - did't you say you were building a RAID-5 and a RAID-1?
[15:24] <RoyK> AFAIK you can't span a RAID-5 over more controllers with 3ware
[15:24] <latenite> Hi folks, can you recommend a benchmarktool? I tried povray and would like to try some others, too
[15:24] <noaXess> RoyK: have 6 hd's, 2x 500gb, 4x 2tb.. 2x500gb -> raid1, 4x 2tb-> raid5
[15:24] <RoyK> ah
[15:24] <RoyK> ic
[15:24] <noaXess> RoyK: oing.. but why does it not warn me?..
[15:25] <RoyK> well, you have two mirrors and a raid5
[15:25] <noaXess> but the raid1 should be used.. or does it fail too?
[15:25] <RoyK> no problems with that
[15:26] <RoyK> but you won't be able to make a 6-drive RAID-5 with two 4-port cards
[15:26] <noaXess> RoyK: have just one controller.. so my setup of the raid's is ok?... on first port there are 2 500gb and 2 2tb hd's.. and on the second the other 2 2tb hd's
[15:26] <RoyK> (unless I'm terribly mistaken)
[15:26] <RoyK> noaXess: looks fine
[15:26] <noaXess> i have 6 hd's.. 2x 500gb, 4x 2 tb
[15:26] <noaXess> ok
[15:27] <noaXess> hm.. what can be wrong?
[15:27] <RoyK> newer firmware or hardware revision
[15:27] <RoyK> perhaps a new pci id that isn't recognized
[15:27] <RoyK> that's quite common
[15:27] <noaXess> RoyK: ok.. so try with 10.10
[15:27] <RoyK> yep
[15:28] <noaXess> RoyK: and if that fails.. i will boot from a live-cd and send lspci information about the controller
[15:28] <noaXess> 10.10 livecd
[15:28] <RoyK> yep
[15:29] <noaXess> RoyK: for my understanding.. ubuntu will need a driver to work with the controller.. right?
[15:30] <RoyK> noaXess: yes, and most drivers are included
[15:31] <RoyK> noaXess: the 3w-9xxx driver is indeed included
[15:31] <RoyK> but when a driver loads, it looks for a known PCI ID
[15:32] <RoyK> that is - I'm unsure about how that works on PCI Express
[15:32]  * RoyK might be wrong
[15:32] <RoyK> anyway - try 10.10
[15:32] <RoyK> if that doesn't work, something may be bad with your setup
[15:35] <noaXess> RoyK: 10.10 also won't work.. will use a 10.04 kubuntu to start live.. and check lspci and lshw
[15:37] <RoyK> k
[15:37] <RoyK> noaXess: how long will it take for those RAIDs to build?
[15:39] <noaXess> RoyK: hm... i don't see any progress... i
[15:39] <RoyK> there should be a percentage indicator
[15:39] <RoyK> perhaps try to destroy them all and only create the root mirror first
[15:40] <RoyK> that probably won't take too much time building
[15:40] <RoyK> even in the foreground
[15:42] <RoyK> noaXess: ?
[15:43] <drcode> hi all
[15:43] <drcode> is  there ubuntu preinstall ver?
[15:43] <RoyK> preinstall?
[15:44] <drcode> I mean console only
[15:44] <drcode> I want to install server with console only , I don't need all gui and so
[15:45] <RoyK> ubuntu server doesn't come with a gui
[15:45] <noaXess> RoyK: ok.... and have data..
[15:45] <RoyK> by default
[15:45] <drcode> ubuntu server come without a gui?
[15:45] <drcode> ok
[15:45] <RoyK> yes
[15:45] <drcode> thanx RoyK
[15:45] <drcode> if I install server on diffrent hardware
[15:45] <RoyK> drcode: there is also an OEM install mode, but I doubt you'll need that
[15:45] <noaXess> RoyK: lspci: http://paste.ubuntu.com/516861/
[15:46] <drcode> I can tell ubuntu to recognize all hardware?
[15:46] <drcode> I want to install ubuntu on vbox
[15:46] <drcode> then copy it into real server
[15:46] <RoyK> drcode: it'll recognize all hardware it has drivers for, which should include most stuff
[15:46] <drcode> and tell ubuntu to recognize my hardware
[15:46] <RoyK> noaXess: did you rebuild that mirror, or what do you mean, do you have data on it?
[15:46] <drcode> I know that it recognize in the install itself?
[15:47] <noaXess> RoyK: no data.. fresh server.. can do rebuild raid1.. or recreate
[15:47] <RoyK> drcode: yes
[15:47] <RoyK> noaXess: just delete all RAIDs and rebuild the small one for the root
[15:47] <RoyK> noaXess: the lshw looks good
[15:47] <noaXess> RoyK: ok... and here is lshw: http://paste.ubuntu.com/516862/
[15:48] <drcode> how I can force ubuntu to recognize my hardware?
[15:48] <noaXess> RoyK: first was lspci ;).. LOL
[15:48] <RoyK> drcode: try first
[15:48] <RoyK> noaXess: heh - I still see no problems
[15:48] <drcode> k
[15:48] <RoyK> drcode: try to boot up on an ubuntu server cd - see what it recognizes
[15:48] <noaXess> RoyK: .. me to.. so.. try to recreate the raid1 and test
[15:48] <drcode> ok
[15:49] <RoyK> noaXess: try to drop both RAIDs first, just in case
[15:49] <RoyK> drcode: if there is something it can't find, you may need custom drivers for it
[15:49] <drcode> I can copy my vbox image and restore it on real server
[15:49] <drcode> I see
[15:49] <drcode> thanx roy
[15:50] <RoyK> noaXess: but ... you said you had a four-port controller, right? you can't have a raid1 _and_ a raid5 on that one
[15:50] <RoyK> either one raid5 or two mirrors
[15:50] <RoyK> mirror == raid1
[15:54] <RoyK> noaXess: did you create a raid5 on two drives???
[15:55] <noaXess> RoyK: now i create the raid1 on 2 drives.. and no i have created the raid5 on 4 drives... raid 5 need a minimum 3 drives
[15:56] <RoyK> noaXess: I thought you said you only had one controller
[15:56] <RoyK> with 4 ports
[15:56] <noaXess> RoyK: a question.. in advanced settings on creating the raid on the 3ware controller there is a opetion: Boot Volume Size.. need i really set it manually?
[15:56] <noaXess> RoyK: one controller with two ports.. on each ports the controller can handle 4 hd's
[15:56] <RoyK> noaXess: never mind that - it's for splitting up the RAID into smaller volumes
[15:57] <noaXess> RoyK: so don't need set Boot Volume Size
[15:57] <RoyK> noaXess: erm... SAS expanders?
[15:57] <RoyK> no
[15:59] <RoyK> noaXess: what is the full model name of that controller?
[16:00] <RoyK> noaXess: the one I'm using is 9650SE-2LP
[16:00]  * RoyK is sincerily confused
[16:01] <drcode> how can I put set http_proxy  to be also after the boot?
[16:01] <mathiaz> JamesPage: o/
[16:01] <noaXess> RoyK: just a moment..
[16:01] <JamesPage> mathiaz: hi - still OK for a catchup?
[16:01] <mathiaz> JamesPage: yop - mumble?
[16:01] <JamesPage> mathiaz: OK
[16:01] <noaXess> RoyK: 3ware 9650SE-8LPML
[16:03] <RoyK> noaXess: ah - that's an 8-port
[16:03] <noaXess> RoyK: the 3w-9650se should realy be supported..
[16:03] <noaXess> RoyK: so i sad.. but to connectors.. ok ;).. and each connector has 4 ports..
[16:05] <RoyK> noaXess: nevertheless - did you try to create that mirror in the foreground?
[16:05] <noaXess> RoyK: wait..
[16:08] <noaXess> RoyK: i create the raid1, and press F8 to finisch, then it ask about saving the config, i press Y, then: Parameter isn't changeable, press any key to continue.. i press any key, and it leaves controller configuration..
[16:08] <RoyK> wtf?
[16:10] <RoyK> is there a choice in the controller menu to just reset everything?
[16:10] <noaXess> RoyK: now on reboot i go into controller config and see: exportable units.. and there is my raid1.. but no creating progres..
[16:10] <noaXess> RoyK: yes..
[16:10] <noaXess> will try
[16:12] <noaXess> RoyK: what about the message if i save the config: Parameter isn't changeable?
[16:13] <RoyK> that's what I'm worrying about
[16:15] <noaXess> RoyK: i will try to set the Boot Volume size same as the raid1 size
[16:15] <RoyK> that really shouldn't matter
[16:15] <RoyK> just create a new raid1 for the root
[16:15] <RoyK> it should get exported
[16:15] <RoyK> unless there is some manual export thing in this controller
[16:15] <noaXess> RoyK: ok..
[16:15] <noaXess> don't see anything..
[16:16] <RoyK> [17:10]  <noaXess> RoyK: now on reboot i go into controller config and see: exportable units.. and there is my raid1.. but no creating progres..
[16:16] <RoyK> perhaps that means you'll need to explicitly export it?
[16:17] <ttx> JamesPage: looking at the jython merge, it's in the same situation as the Groovy merge, it introduces a few new deps tat we'd have to MIR first
[16:18] <ttx> JamesPage: could you add it to your "sucky packages" list ?
[16:19] <noaXess> RoyK: hm... don't really know.. but if the raid1 will be build, i should see some hd activity, ight?..
[16:19] <noaXess> right ^
[16:21] <RoyK> yes
[16:21] <noaXess> RoyK: i started now verifying the raid1.. maybe..
[16:22] <noaXess> RoyK: have no export option...
[16:23] <_ruben> bah .. the installer insists on using GPT for my 2TB drives (which are smaller than 2^41 bytes which is the max for a MBR/DOS label)
[16:23] <RoyK> I checked the 3ware manual - exportable units should be visible for the OS
[16:24] <noaXess> RoyK: ok.. hm.. verifing now at 3%..
[16:24] <RoyK> well, let's hope that works
[16:24] <noaXess> i also found this: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/maverick/man4/twa.4freebsd.html
[16:25] <RoyK> well, the twa utility, or even tw_cli, will help you once you get the system up and running
[16:25] <noaXess> RoyK: ok..
[16:25] <RoyK> I wrote a nagios plugin using tw_cli to check drive status
[16:25] <noaXess> RoyK: oi.. cool..
[16:25] <RoyK> (or I found one and rewrote that, don't remember)
[16:25] <noaXess> hehe
[16:26] <RoyK> nagios, or rather, icinga, should be used for monitoring imho
[16:30] <noaXess> RoyK: normaly in the 3ware controller settings, after creating a raid and save the settings, a progress should come up, right?
[16:31] <RoyK> yeah
[16:32] <noaXess> strange.. cause there is only the save configuration question, i press y, and it leaves controller config and boot process goes on
[16:32] <noaXess> maybe check firmware if the controller..
[16:32] <RoyK> yeah, see if there are some upgrades
[16:32] <noaXess> is it possible to upgrade firmware without any OS?
[16:32] <RoyK> or downgrades :P
[16:32] <RoyK> usually firmware upgrade happens from a CD running DOS
[16:34] <noaXess> 4.10.00.007 from 9.5.3 from 26.11.2009
[16:34] <noaXess> hm.. ot really new..
[16:35] <RoyK> noaXess: also, keep in mind that if you don't have battery backup on the controller, make sure you disable write cache - IIRC it's enabled by default
[16:36] <noaXess> RoyK: have BBU... and will check write cache... why disabling it?
[16:36] <RoyK> seems that's the latest
[16:36] <RoyK> noaXess: no need to disable it with the BBU
[16:37] <noaXess> ah.. sorry.. your wrote it :)
[16:38] <RoyK> noaXess: is that the firmware version you have now?
[16:40] <noaXess> RoyK: no... can't check it.. verifying is in progress. 25%
[16:41] <RoyK> k
[16:42] <thesheff17> Does anyone know if apt-proxy will work with the partner repository? I'm getting terrible download speeds in the amazon cloud with package sun-java6-jdk
[16:48] <JamesPage> ttx: consider jython added to the list....
[16:55] <Sander^home> Anyone have a support agrement with Ubuntu?
[16:55]  * RoyK doesn't
[16:55] <RoyK> Sander^home: you might mean with Canonical? :)
[16:56] <Sander^home> Yeah.
[16:56] <Sander^home> Wondring if anyone have had any good experience with canonical.
[16:57] <RoyK> we have engaged a local consulting house in case we need some backup support-wise
[16:58] <Sander^home> Maybe thats better.
[17:00] <lau> I am trying to set ldap auth from ubuntu client to ubuntu-server ldap
[17:00] <lau> I sudo dpkg-reconfigure ldap-auth-config
[17:00] <lau> sudo auth-client-config -t nss -p lac_ldap
[17:00] <lau> sudo pam-auth-update
[17:01] <lau> on teh client side
[17:01] <RoyK> noaXess: getting somewhere?
[17:01] <lau> id ldap_user is ok
[17:01] <noaXess> RoyK: verifying....
[17:01] <lau> but su ldap_user fail auth
[17:01] <lau> any idea ?
[17:04] <noaXess> RoyK: 54%..... bbs.. dinner time..
[17:16] <SpamapS> mathiaz: pong, reading about confoo now
[17:17] <SpamapS> mathiaz: I could see giving a talk at that one.. given all of the things we've been exposed to w.r.t. "software development and project management" .. we could just create a talk.. "Ubuntu as a platform for Software Development and Project Management
[17:23] <patdk-wk> hmm, I wonder what the min entropy bits I should set for user passwords
[17:34] <RoyK> hi all. I just upgraded this test vm to Maverick, but now, on login, it says this http://pastebin.com/x80BS4TU
[17:34] <RoyK> any idea how to make it stop reporting lucid?
[17:50] <RoyK> noaXess: still no action?
[17:56]  * RoyK suggests noaXess returns his expensive RAID controllers and installs opensolaris/openindiana instead with all the benefits of ZFS on commodity hardware
[17:58] <Bilge> So although the upgrade from 8.04 to 10.04 went smooth yesterday, I was notified on login that a kernel update was available. Applying it and rebooting caused my system to fail unrecoverably since it tried to update grub and I am using lilo and din't catch this discrepancy myself before rebooting
[18:08] <RoyK> Bilge: using lilo?
[18:08] <RoyK> in 2010?
[18:09] <RoyK> Bilge: AFAIK the upgrade from 10.04 to 10.04.1 will install grub2
[18:09] <RoyK> that may be the issue
[18:45] <alex88> hi guys
[18:46] <alex88> i have to diagnose why my firewall and bind9 stopped working
[18:46] <alex88> http://pastebin.com/PJKGmyK8 auth.log and http://pastebin.com/dirZPM0V syslog
[18:47] <qman__> I'm curious as to why, exactly, sshd is listening on 443
[18:48] <patdk-wk> qman, to get around corperate firewalls :)
[18:48] <alex88> patdk-wk: awesome! :) bypass isa server at work :)
[18:48] <electro_> An application I was running aborted and tied up a linux server while writing a 38GB core dump. I tried killing the process with ^C and with 'kill', to no avail. Is there some way to kill a process during a core dump?
[18:48] <alex88> electro_: try kill -kill pid
[18:49] <patdk-wk> alex88 sounds like it's attempting to do ipv6 stuff, but you don't have ipv6
[18:49] <qman__> kill -9
[18:50] <qman__> as for bind, looks like something shut it down at 01:14 and it never started back up
[18:50]  * patdk-wk won't use named
[18:50] <hallyn> so to create a package for natty, can i just do it all in maverick and change the .changes file to say natty?
[18:50] <qman__> try manually restarting it
[18:50] <qman__> service bind stop, service bind start
[18:51] <alex88> qman__: right, also firewall stopped, and saslauthd by syslog..
[18:51] <alex88> btw, i've restarted it fine, nothing wrong
[18:51] <alex88> also firewall etc..
[18:52] <qman__> running any PHP web apps?
[18:52] <qman__> most of them have massive holes
[18:52] <hallyn> suppose i should be on ubuntu-devel
[18:53] <alex88> qman__: 2 wordpress, not so much plugins, binded with wp-sentinel and lastest version of phpmyadmin
[18:53] <alex88> installed yesterday
[18:53] <alex88> i think these are secure..
[18:54] <patdk-wk> heh, I would never call phpmyadmin or wordpress secure
[18:54] <qman__> yeah
[18:54] <patdk-wk> seen way too many attacks
[18:54] <qman__> make sure access to phpmyadmin is locked down
[18:54] <qman__> in any case, can you go back a bit further on the auth.log?
[18:55] <qman__> that one starts only four minutes before bind died
[18:55] <alex88> qman__: sure, let me paste.. wait a second..
[18:56] <alex88> qman__: http://pastebin.com/jQkPSJnR long enough i think
[18:57] <alex88> virtualmin has added users alexnetwork, rapstyle for vhosts..
[18:57] <alex88> also ourmatrix user
[18:58] <qman__> wondering why root is su-ing to postgres so often
[18:58] <alex88> mmhh..
[18:58] <qman__> every 5 or 10 minutes
[18:58] <alex88> some cron?
[18:59] <alex88> let me check in webmin..
[18:59] <qman__> oh lord
[18:59] <qman__> sorry, not much I can do then
[18:59] <qman__> !webmin
[19:00] <alex88> command1 && command2 will execute 1 then 2 right?
[19:00] <Pici> If command1 was successful.
[19:00] <alex88> ok..thank you..
[19:01] <alex88> bytheway, i've tried ebox, but i can't install it on vps server
[19:01] <qman__> it's possible and even likely that webmin botched up your configuration and that's what caused everything to die
[19:01] <alex88> it's installed from 1 week..not so much
[19:02] <alex88> is another sys web panel for ubuntu server? instead of ebox
[19:02] <alex88> going to eat...cya later...thank you all..
[19:02]  * patdk-wk just uses bash for his panel
[19:04] <qman__> yeah, I can't in good faith recommend any web panel
[19:04] <qman__> for anything
[19:05] <noaXess> RoyK: there is an old firmware on that controller.. 4.08..
[19:10] <alex88> well, i want to try to chroot php...but i haven't found how..lighttpd has a function for that with spawn-fcgi but apache hasn't... it's useless to have chroot in apache and not in cgi programs..
[19:12] <tonedevf> I'm running into problems with services accessing an NFS mount, specifically Apache (which has an application that needs to write to that NFS mount), and Samba (which shares that NFS mount with windows clients).  my web research thus far turns up lots of info for this problem in SELinux, but i'm not running SELinux, just ubuntu server 10.04.1. any ideas? and just to clarify, the ubuntu server in question is the NFS client mounting an NFS export
[19:13] <tonedevf> here's the samba log of a client trying to access the nfs-mounted directory:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/516946/
[19:13] <tonedevf> any ideas?
[19:14] <alex88> sorry but i have no experience with samba
[19:14] <qman__> the apache error log will probably be more informative
[19:15] <alex88> qman__, talking to me?
[19:16] <tonedevf> hmm, let me see if i can find the script that caused that
[19:17] <tonedevf> i believe it simply gave a permission denied error
[19:20] <RoAkSoAx> ttx: ping?
[19:20] <RoAkSoAx> ttx: ping?
[19:20] <RoAkSoAx> gosh
[19:20] <RoAkSoAx> zul: ping
[19:21] <zul> RoAkSoAx: whats up?
[19:21] <RoAkSoAx> zul: you free to sponsor a rhcs SRU upload for lucid? :) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/redhat-cluster/+bug/627174
[19:21] <zul> RoAkSoAx: sure
[19:21] <RoAkSoAx> zul: thanks :)
[19:22] <alex88> qman__, what you think it's nice for web serving? I usually use apache + suexec + fcgid..
[19:22] <qman__> I use the default lamp stack
[19:22] <RoAkSoAx> zul: btw.. forgot to ask you the python script for the server related packages :)
[19:22] <zul> RoAkSoAx: gimme a sec
[19:22] <alex88> so no vhosts etc.. i have some users using web apps
[19:22] <qman__> apache, mod_php
[19:23] <alex88> oh...ok..so all runned by www-data..
[19:23] <qman__> yes
[19:23] <qman__> but I don't have big, multiuser setups
[19:23] <zul> RoAkSoAx: http://people.canonical.com/~chucks/versions.py
[19:24] <RoAkSoAx> zul: thanks ;)
[19:24] <s_dudko>  Hi guys. I've successfully installed 10.10 srv i386 + db2-express-c 9.7.2 . What do I need to enable my php5 applications to connect to DB2. I've installed to php5-odbc, trying to use odbc_connect() with no luck.  Was trying to ask this question on #db2 but it's quiet.
[19:24] <alex88> qman__, also i think you have trusted users, because they can see each other sites source..
[19:25] <qman__> well, since I am the only user, yes, I am trusted ;)
[19:25] <alex88> :)
[19:25] <gp5st> i have a PL2303 sub serial port attached and it is appearing as /dev/ttyUSB0 and when i screen /dev/ttyUSB0 i just get a lot of junk characters. anyone know what i'm doing wrong or where to steer me?
[19:25] <qman__> I have other users accessing them, but not administering them
[19:25] <RoyK> noaXess: tried upgradig it?
[19:27] <binBASH> s_dudko: google says this http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/db2luw/v9r5/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.db2.luw.apdv.php.doc/doc/c0021523.html
[19:27] <alex88> qman__, accessing, via ftp?
[19:28] <scott2> ok I have read through the documentation but still having issues with config file.  Message I am getting in terminal is Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using ::1 for ServerName
[19:29] <alex88> btw, rebuilding server :)
[19:30] <scott2> I have public ip andhave made router changes and I have a domain. my problem is getting my domain to point to my apache2 server (I am hosting my own server)
[19:30] <noaXess> RoyK: yes.. and also upgrade bios of mainboard..
[19:30] <noaXess> on it
[19:31] <alex88> scott2, dyndns?
[19:31] <scott2> I have two actually go daddy and dyndns
[19:32] <scott2> I did go into go daddy and had dns point to my public ip
[19:32] <qman__> alex88, no, accessing the web sites/applications
[19:32] <zul> RoAkSoAx: this is for lucid?
[19:32] <alex88> oh, well, so normal clients..
[19:32] <RoAkSoAx> zul: yes lucid
[19:33] <Pici> scott2: That message is only a warning anyway, its not an error message.  It shouldn't really impact hosting one site from your server.
[19:33] <RoAkSoAx> zul: everything is fixed in maverick, and consequently in natty
[19:33] <zul> k thanks
[19:34] <scott2> when i enter my web address I do not see the folder location to start building the website, I just get this page is under constuction (go daddy message)
[19:34] <RoAkSoAx> zul: here's the debdiff with 'lucid-proposed' http://launchpadlibrarian.net/57934544/sru-redhat-cluster.debdiff
[19:34] <zul> RoAkSoAx: done
[19:34] <Pici> scott2: First, can you get to that site from inside your network? Secondly, does your domain name resolve to your public IP?
[19:35] <RoAkSoAx> zul: thank you ;)
[19:35] <alex88> natty? already decided new name? :)
[19:36] <gp5st> any of you have any ideas? or has anyone done anything similar before. i think i'm having some other issues as well
[19:36] <Pici> !11.04
[19:37] <alex88> Pici, thanks ;)
[19:37] <scott2> It just say "under construction" msg from go daddy.  ?resolve to public ip not sure what you mean by that I am quite new to linux
[19:38] <alex88> scott2, you use opendns or public dns services? do "host yoursite.com" and check if it's your public ip address
[19:40] <noaXess> RoyK: i GOT it...
[19:40] <noaXess> RoyK: i think it was the old firmware on the controller...
[19:41] <s_dudko> how to get to know if php5 on Srv 10.10 was compiled with option like "./configure --with-pdo-odbc=ibm-db2"
[19:42] <noaXess> RoyK: time for a beer... and for you too.. where can i send it? ;)
[19:43] <Pici> s_dudko: You could look at the build logs.   Heres the one from the i386 build: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/56115054/buildlog_ubuntu-maverick-i386.php5_5.3.3-1ubuntu9_FULLYBUILT.txt.gz
[19:43] <scott2> I have a registered dns through go daddy and my internet is through comcast.  I verified my public ip address through comcast (I do have a router/wireless that is dhcp)  I used go daddy domain control to point my pub ip to my host name but when putting in the website my request I think just goes to go daddy parked server instead of to my apache web server at home
[19:44] <scott2> when I restart apache i get  Restarting web server apache2                                                apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using ::1 for ServerName
[19:45] <scott2> [Wed Oct 20 09:28:43 2010] [warn] NameVirtualHost *:80 has no VirtualHosts
[19:45] <scott2> [Wed Oct 20 09:28:43 2010] [warn] NameVirtualHost *:80 has no VirtualHosts
[19:45] <scott2>  ... waiting apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using ::1 for ServerName
[19:45] <scott2> [Wed Oct 20 09:28:44 2010] [warn] NameVirtualHost *:80 has no VirtualHosts
[19:45] <scott2> [Wed Oct 20 09:28:44 2010] [warn] NameVirtualHost *:80 has no VirtualHosts
[19:46] <scott2> there is a setting in my router for virtual host so not sure if the problem is there or with go daddy or in my config file
[19:47] <Pici> scott2: Is this a commercial or residential comcast account?  Residential ones usually don't allow you to host websites on port 80.
[19:48] <scott2> residential do I change to port 99 and enter the private ip address assigned by my dhcp?
[19:49] <raubvogel> scott2, you could have your router forward whatever port to port 80 on your webserver
[19:50] <Pici> scott2: The first step is to make sure that your website is running.  If you can browse to your internal IP from another computer on your network and see it, then you can proceed to see if you can get to it from outside your network.
[19:52] <scott2> ok I checked and I can browse to my internal ip address http://192.168.2.11/
[19:55] <scott2> checking using outside computer (laptop with sprint air card)
[19:56] <coxn> preseed question. I'm looking here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization/PreseedExamples
[19:56] <coxn> I see this and like it: d-i     preseed/late_command            string cp -a /cdrom/preseed/install.sh /target/root; sed -i 's_exit 0_sh /root/install.sh_' /target/etc/rc.local;
[19:57] <coxn> but I'd like to pull from a network location instead of doing a cp off the cd
[19:57] <coxn> anybody know if wget is available at that stage?
[20:02] <alex88> also, ii've multiple php configs, so i need to set dir for each php.ini, i have to change basedir and tmp path for each server, is a way to set the user at the beginning and for each tmp and other options set only something like "tmp_dir= /var/www/$user/tmp"^
[20:07] <scott2> ok tried to access my wesite via a computer outside my lan and getting "sorry we could not find....."  So I can access internally via my 192. address but not outside my lan
[20:10] <gp5st> i have connected two serial ports together on the same computer and cannot send data between them. where should i start to debug this?
[20:14] <gp5st> anywhere her who's set up serial terminals before
[20:16] <scott2> if I had to guess, I just need to make sure my go daddy domain name is not parked and I need to set call forwarding on my home router
[20:17] <_Techie_> scott2, make sure that if you use NAT, that you have setup to forward port 80, and possbly 443 if you want SSL
[20:17] <scott2> ok will try thanks everyone for help!
[20:31] <gp5st> i have connected two serial ports together on the same computer and cannot send data between them. where should i start to debug this?
[20:32] <fluvvell> gpSst, apart from the obvious question why you would want to do this, are you sure you've wired with a null modem cable?
[20:34] <gp5st> fluvvell: it should be, it was for a ups to talk to a computer.  My next step is to being a multimeter in tomorrow and check, since I don't know how to otherwise
[20:36] <fluvvell> gp5st, not so on your assumption. My ups cables are wired completely differently to a null modem cable.
[20:38] <gp5st> yeah, that's what seems to be the issue. i guess i don't understand why, but i'll take that as is and work with it. i guess i don't understand teh rs232 pinout/usage as i thought i did
[20:39] <fluvvell> gp5st, so either you get good with a multimeter, a soldering iron and  some pliers, or you go out and buy one of these http://www.tech-faq.com/null-modem-adapter.html
[20:39] <gp5st> yeah, thanks fluvvell
[20:39] <fluvvell> and use a straight through cable to connect it.  Ok, so the question goes begging, why two ports on the same computer?
[20:40] <b14ck> Hi all. I'm trying to fix a problem with some software I'm using. Basically, I'm running ubuntu-server 10.04 (64-bit), and one of my processes which is set to start at boot via init.d is starting BEFORE mysql does, which is causing it to fail. I need to alter the boot order of this process so that it starts AFTER mysqld. Is there a way to do this?
[20:40] <gp5st> fluvvell: i have a NetMos Technology PCI 9865 Multi-I/O Controller 6 rs232 port and i wanted to test to make sure it was working properly before i move on
[20:40] <b14ck> I've been trying to figure it out all day, but can't get it.
[20:44] <gp5st> thanks fluvvell. but that's why, i'm testing the software an card
[20:54] <hallyn> kirkland: fwiw i'm trying to make a 0.13.0-rc2 kvm build for natty.  more patches got weeded out than were left in, which is nice, but it's dying in ./configure for vnc_sasl in static build.  but i'm working on it
[20:55] <hallyn> (in case you were thinking of doing it)
[20:55] <kirkland> hallyn: oh, cool
[20:55] <kirkland> hallyn: i haven't touched 0.13, but i'm looking forward to seeing it
[21:00] <jeiworth> b14ck: check in which rcX.d folder the startup script lies in comparison with mysql
[21:01] <b14ck> jeiworth, i don't even see mysql in any of the rcX.d folders
[21:01] <b14ck> But I see my process in a lot of them.
[21:01] <b14ck> From rc1.d to rc6.d its in each one
[21:02] <Pupeno> Something went wrong in my server and for some people it started to serve source php files instead of interpreting them. I've fixed some php issues and it's still wrong in some pages for some people. It looks like a caching issues. Is there any cache to *reset*?
[21:02] <jeiworth> ok, the ones starting with S imply that at that runlevel the script is run, the number after the S indicates the order should there be more scripts in that runlevel-folder
[21:04] <b14ck> jeiworth, In rc0 and rc1 I have 'K99opensips', and in rc2->rc6 I have 'S99opensips'
[21:04] <b14ck> But I still don't see mysql anywhere (even though I can confirm that it is being started at boot)
[21:05] <hallyn> drat, it's lool's commit 79427693174a553d62f3da44aacd3f19ba8df3a7
[21:05] <b14ck> jeiworth, for example, here's my syslog: http://pastie.org/1236383 (last few lines of it anyway). See how opensips is being started BEFORE mysql?
[21:07] <jeiworth> b14ck: let me check on how exactly the boot order is handled, but S99 should indicate that it executes the script last... hmm
[21:08] <b14ck> jeiworth, awesome :)
[21:09] <gp5st> Hmm, so usb A to usb A m/m cables exist; can i cerate a "serial" connection via them?
[21:11] <jeiworth> b14ck: hmm what does it say as env DEFAULT_RUNLEVEL when you check /etc/init/rc-sysinit.conf?
[21:11] <b14ck> jeiworth, 2
[21:12] <icek> hey, i accidentally forgot the password on mySQL, how do i remove mysql and reinstall it?
[21:12] <jeiworth> ok, but in rc2.d/ you do not have a copy of S99opensips, right?
[21:12] <jeiworth> ah yes you do
[21:12] <jeiworth> :(
[21:12] <icek> royk
[21:12] <icek> anyone
[21:12] <icek> sudo apt-get remove 'mysql-server'
[21:12] <icek> ?
[21:12] <b14ck> jeiworth, yah its there
[21:14] <raubvogel> icek, did you lose the root pw too?
[21:14] <icek> ya
[21:14] <jeiworth> icek: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/recover-mysql-root-password.html
[21:14] <icek> thanks
[21:14] <jeiworth> yw
[21:14] <icek> i just removed mysql server and did apt-get install mysql-server and it prompted me for a new root pass
[21:14] <icek> so hopefully this works
[21:16] <gp5st> this might be phrased better: sorry, this may not be the place for it, but : if i have a usb a / usb a m/m cable, can i create a serial connection between computers so that i can log into one like i would if it were an rs232 console (Setting up getty and such)?
[21:17] <Hobart> gp5st -> sadly, no.  USB is a master-slave not a peer-to-peer, you -can- communicate to some extent if you put an intelligent device between the two, but that's it
[21:17] <Hobart> (that was an advantage of firewire over usb - real 'peer to peer')
[21:18] <gp5st> Hobart: oh
[21:18] <jeiworth> b14ck: take a look at this: http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/tutorials/7033/1/ <-- appears that 10.04 also has startup config files in /etc/init/
[21:18] <gp5st> Hobart: so, i couldn't configure one computer to be a slave?
[21:19] <b14ck> jeiworth, i'll give it a read, thanks
[21:19] <jeiworth> b14ck: hope it helps
[21:23] <zul> SpamapS: ping
[21:25] <icek> hey i am using this guide to install cacti.... http://openmaniak.com/cacti_tutorial.php
[21:25] <icek> it all works
[21:25] <icek> but when i try http://localhost/cacti
[21:25] <icek> it doesnt find anything
[21:25] <icek> i have webmin installed already
[21:25] <icek> so does that affect anything? since that uses apache already i suspect
[21:28] <gp5st> Hobart: what would something like this (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812816140) ever be used for?
[21:31] <Bilge> Where are the ufw user rules stored in 10.04?
[21:32] <Bilge> For backup purposes
[21:32] <jdstrand> Bilge: /lib/ufw
[21:32] <Bilge> Oh hi jds :)
[21:32] <jdstrand> hi
[21:33] <Bilge> I couldn't remember who wrote ufw but I recognise your nick now
[21:33] <Bilge> Gave up waiting for the backport of ufw for 8.04 and just bit the bullet and upgraded to 10.04 ;)
[21:34] <jdstrand> good :) 10.04 has a lot going for it (besides ufw :)
[21:34] <Bilge> I can see that
[21:34] <Bilge> I actually upgraded for PHP 5.3
[21:34] <Bilge> Not that I mean to take anything away from ufw ;p
[21:34] <jdstrand> heh
[21:36] <Bilge> It's weird now though because I have some init.d stuff and some init stuff all mixed up together
[21:36] <Bilge> And I no longer have any idea how to tell what processes are going to be included at start-up
[21:36] <Bilge> Is there some way to get a list of all the processes that will be run at a given runlevel?
[21:37] <Bilge> Sort of like a simulation run so I can check my config is correct
[21:58] <smoser> ScottK, do i need to bump https://bugs.launchpad.net/lucid-backports/+bug/649742 somehow ?
[21:59] <ScottK> smoser: I don't think any backports have been processed recently.
[22:01] <smoser> its just a lack-of-time-by-backporters thing ?
[22:05] <w00ter> hi guys. I see Fed 14 introduces SPICE for desktop virt. is a port ready for Ubuntu + KVM yet?
[22:09] <ScottK> smoser: It's not backporters, it's Canonical archive admins (I can't do it since I don't have shell access).
[22:10] <smoser> kirkland, can you push that particular button for me ?
[22:11] <kirkland> smoser: what button?
[22:11] <smoser> backport processing (particularly for https://bugs.launchpad.net/lucid-backports/+bug/649742)
[22:11] <smoser> per ScottK above
[22:12] <ScottK> kirkland: there are a number of backports just waiting for an archive admin to process them.  This is one.
[22:13] <kirkland> ScottK: okay; one second
[22:19] <RoyK> icek: ping
[22:19] <icek> yo royk
[22:19] <icek> royk know anything about snmp?
[22:20] <RoyK> snmp is simple
[22:20] <RoyK> icek: did you get another nic for that server?
[22:21] <icek> i am setting up snmp for cacti and when i try to do a simple walk sudo snmpwalk -Os -c mycommunity -v 1 localhost system i  get the result system: Unknown OBject identifier (sub-id not found: (top) -> system)  and i think its because the agent is looking for the mibs in the wrong directory
[22:21] <icek> or somethin
[22:21] <icek> royk
[22:22] <icek> royk, yes the server is all running
[22:22] <icek> trying to get cati to run though so i can do graphing
[22:22] <icek> cacti works, just has an snmp error
[22:22] <kirkland> smoser: working on it
[22:23] <RoyK> icek: did  you get it running on   two NICs?
[22:24] <icek> royk ya
[22:24] <icek> dhcp and nat
[22:29] <kirkland> smoser: erg, tool to do this just threw python exceptions at me
[22:31] <icek> i am reading that there is a problem with ubuntu pulling basic mibs for snmp
[22:31] <icek> not really sure what that means
[22:31] <icek> i guess in other words, snmp looks in the wrong folder cause they changed the structure
[22:31] <icek> or somethin
[22:32] <icek> "/usr/share/snmp/mibs doesn't exist anymore on X86_64, but exists in X86. Instead there's /usr/share/mibs/netsnmp but it's not the same thing."
[22:32] <icek> this snmp bug i am hitting was posted yesterday! http://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com/msg2581145.html
[22:33] <icek> not sure how to fix it :/
[22:34] <kirkland> smoser: sorry, i'm failing;  filed https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-archive-tools/+bug/664178 against the backport tool
[22:37] <icek> d
[22:47] <mathiaz> SpamapS: http://incubator.apache.org/whirr/
[22:48] <mathiaz> SpamapS: ^^ have you heard of this?
[22:48] <mathiaz> SpamapS: I've seen reference of that tool a couple of times now
[22:52] <jorge> Hello, I'm using the officiai Lucid image for an EC2 instance, and for some reason I cannot log in with any user except for "ubuntu".
[22:52] <jorge> ssh devuser@server, gets me: Please login as the ubuntu user rather than root user.
[22:53] <jorge> Is there a way to use users *other* than "ubuntu"?
[22:53] <thesheff17> jorge: as the ubuntu do sudo cp /home/ubuntu/.ssh/authorized_keys /root/.ssh/
[22:54] <thesheff17> jorge: then you can log in as root.  Or copy to any user you want use.
[22:54] <jorge> I'm not sure this is a key issue, it seems built into this image that I can only log into as ubuntu.
[22:55] <thesheff17> jorge: by default this is how it setup...ubuntu user is more secure than root
[22:56] <jorge> Ha, I just noticed in the user's authorized keys it says: command="echo 'Please login as the ubuntu user rather than root user.';echo;sleep 10"
[22:56] <jorge> Thanks so much, I feel stupid :)
[23:02] <icek> hey i have a question... if i can access http://192.168.10.1/site/index.php from 192.168.10.1 why cant i access it from another computer on the same network?
[23:02] <icek> apache2
[23:03] <thesheff17> icek: can you ping 192.168.10.1 from the other box?
[23:03] <icek> ya
[23:03] <jorge> Try shutting off iptables, maybe you have a firewall running locally
[23:03] <icek> i do have firestarter running
[23:03] <icek> firewall
[23:03] <jorge> Port 80 TCP open?
[23:03] <icek> not sure how to check
[23:03] <icek> or set that
[23:03] <icek> just kinda using default firestarter
[23:04] <thesheff17> icek: like most firewalls they deny all..until you open up what you want.
[23:04] <icek> hehhe
[23:04] <icek> thank you
[23:05] <icek> just added the rule
[23:05] <icek> fixed it
[23:14] <j0nr> hi. am having big problems. I run a server on a VPS, i just did a do-release-upgrade and it seemed to work but after a reboot i couldnt get back in. the vps supplier got me back in with a recovery console but now nothing seems to work.
[23:14] <j0nr> I cannot ping www.google.com, perform apt-get update or ssh in as a regular user....its as if it isnt connected to the internet
[23:14] <j0nr> top shows only about 5 items runnings
[23:15] <j0nr> not sure where to start
[23:16] <icek> what does ifconfig say
[23:16] <j0nr> nothing at all
[23:16] <qman__> ifconfig -a?
[23:16] <icek> type
[23:16] <icek> sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[23:17] <qman__> lspci | grep Ethernet
[23:17] <j0nr> ifconfig -a: http://pastebin.com/WJkT9Kpu
[23:18] <j0nr> this is on a VPS
[23:19] <thesheff17> j0nr: the mac of the network might have changed.  Check this file and see if there are two entries. /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[23:19] <qman__> also, make sure /etc/network/interfaces uses the same interface name
[23:20] <j0nr> thesheff17: its empty apart from commented comments
[23:22] <thesheff17> j0nr: I would make sure it still sees the Ethernet adapter... lspci | grep Ethernet
[23:22] <j0nr> lspci | grep -i Ethernet
[23:22] <j0nr> pcilib: Cannot open /proc/bus/pci
[23:22] <j0nr> lspci: Cannot find any working access method.
[23:25] <j0nr> its fubar isn't it
[23:26] <thesheff17> j0nr: here is a thread about how VPS doesn't have access to the hardware http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=961129
[23:27] <thesheff17> j0nr: can you do cat cat /proc/cpuinfo does that error to?
[23:27] <j0nr> no error, that works
[23:30] <thesheff17> j0nr: I would see what kind network adapter the VPS is trying to give to the kernel and ubuntu....though I have never seen lspci not work.
[23:31] <j0nr> balls
[23:56] <SpamapS> zul: pong, sorry, was on the road for a while. Whats up?
[23:57] <SpamapS> mathiaz: I talked to some guys about Whirr a few months back.. but I forget the context.
[23:57] <zul> SpamapS: can you add mariadb one to your web spec thing i forget what its called now
[23:58] <mathiaz> SpamapS: it seems related to deploying services into cloud
[23:58] <zul> SpamapS: the cloud-server-n-webscale-tech
[23:58] <SpamapS> zul: didn't you already do that?
[23:58] <zul> i thought i did but it seems to be gone
[23:59] <zul> SpamapS: meh i just re-added it
[23:59] <SpamapS> mathiaz: Definitely, the message I got was "its going to be awesome" but that its just somebody's tool that they dumped into apache incubator
[23:59] <SpamapS> zul: might as well throw percona/xtradb in there as well.