[00:00] i just assume i have a wrong package [00:00] magdalena: then do you mind explaining? [00:00] ok. basically, i have this probl: http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.kde.bugs/386256 [00:01] unlike all the other, who seemed to have this problem - my problem wasn't solved with upgrades [00:01] I tried the maverick betas and some where in this process this issue arrived [00:01] and never got away [00:02] although i upgraded from kde 4.5.0 to 4.5.1 [00:02] and i am on maverick final now [00:02] i tried even sth like reinstalling all packages and removed all .deb files beforehand [00:02] that didn't work [00:02] magdalena: so you want ppa did you instakll (and remove?) [00:03] well, i experiment a lot :) i quite often install a ppa, try something and purge this again [00:03] never had probls [00:03] but I now assume, that one of those ppas causes this behaviour [00:04] the only thing i can think about [00:04] if you have a better idea... [00:04] magdalena: well, you can disable the extra ppas in kpackagekit (settings tab > edit origins in maverick) [00:05] magdalena: then I would reinstall "kubuntu-desktop" with "sudo apt-get install --reinstall kubuntu-desktop" [00:05] the only extra ppa i currently use is ubuntu-x-swat [00:06] i already tried such things [00:06] besides that --reinstall install kubuntu-desktop does not much [00:07] since kubuntu-desktop is just a meta package [00:15] I'm on a newly upgraded 10.10 (from 10.04) and I notice that when pressing ie. the applauncher hotkey, it'll pop up, but it doesn't retract when I press again. [00:15] Is this supposed to be a feature, or a bug? Same goes for hotkeys I've set for the device notifier, battery monitor, etc. === WindPower_ is now known as WindPower [00:39] good evening =) has anybody an idea how dolphin mounts ntfs partitions? i would like to use this in the fstab [00:40] my problem is chmod issent working with rw,auto,users,exec,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 === muzer is now known as MuzerAway [00:45] problem solved thx [00:55] can someone help me setup OpenVPN with Network Manager? === gp[8]_ is now known as gp[8] [01:32] how do i move/organize window list items in the task bar? [01:35] 10.04 [01:42] hello.. I just updated to 10.10 and now all the channels for my soundcard are gone. I can't listen to the headphone jack without sound coming out the speakers too [01:43] *channels for kmixer [01:43] ... I have the master though. [01:44] * epoxy uses alsamixer in the meantime [01:50] there's been a few ppl with kmix issues in 10.10 [01:51] I do believe this is related to the fact that 10.10 switched to pulse-audio ? [01:59] hello [02:00] In the Plasma Netbook version there is bar just under the top panel that you can add programs. I use a lot of the chrome application shortcuts, but can not seem to add them to this area. Is there anyway to do this? [02:01] has anyone had any problems with 10.10 on the cron.daily constantly running? [02:36] In 10.10, and 10.04 for that matter, setting a global hotkey to launch an application simply doesn't work. I've tried searching around, but there are a fair few hits on hotkey-related stuff going around, hard to sift. Can anyone shorten my search? [02:44] i'm running kubuntu 10.10 on my netbook, and when i close an application, nothing gets focused. I'm assuming the last-used window should get focused immediately when the focused window is closed? [02:45] focus stealing prevention is on low [03:38] on startup and shutdown, my kubuntu splash screen looks like this: http://jon.pmtech.com/~jschall/splash.jpg [03:38] how can i fix it? [03:38] what package should i reinstall? [03:48] on startup and shutdown, my kubuntu splash screen looks like this: http://jon.pmtech.com/~jschall/splash.jpg how can i fix it? is there a package that i can reinstall? [03:49] also, there's always this weird shadow outline of a window: http://jon.pmtech.com/~jschall/snapshot1.png [03:50] which apparently goes away if i disable and re-enable desktop effects. [03:50] so never mind === root is now known as Guest34733 [03:55] Guest34733: if your name was root because you're using the root account on your box to log into irc, you should probably not be doing that. [03:57] guys, totally i fixed my problem in kubuntu, that create two language and change between them and type with both! [04:08] jschall: can't load your image [04:08] Unco: how did you solve it? [04:09] jschall: neither image [04:10] valorie: the splash screen is basically gone. is there a way to reinstall it? [04:11] oh gosh, having a brain freeze [04:11] sec, and I'll google [04:11] valorie: also can you ping 69.19.214.183? [04:12] valorie: i've been trying to figure it out with google [04:12] $ ping 69.19.214.183 [04:12] PING 69.19.214.183 (69.19.214.183) 56(84) bytes of data. [04:12] nothing? [04:12] hey guys what's up [04:12] huh. [04:12] anyone having issues with window decorations in kde 4.5 [04:12] that's weird. [04:14] well everytime i change decorations now my screen goes black and the only thing i can do is hit power and click restart [04:17] where is the folder of games in kubuntu 10.10? [04:18] jschall: this is old, but it is still generally the way things are: http://www.kubuntu.org/docs/kquickguide/C/ch03s07.html [04:18] scroll down for splash screen [04:18] Unco: there wasn't room on the LiveCD [04:18] so you'll have to install them separately [04:19] if you did a clean install [04:19] valorie: any luck on the splash? [04:19] yes, read up a bit [04:19] valorie: and can you get to pmtech.com? [04:19] valorie: because i think my router might be messed up [04:20] yes, that loads [04:20] valorie : if i correctly dl & inst them, they will keep where place? [04:21] socket operations timed out, is the error message I get for the images [04:22] Unco: I can't guarantee that [04:22] valorie: well, i think i need to restart my wireless bridge [04:22] lol [04:22] valorie: anyway, you know how to fix my splash? [04:22] jschall: this is old, but it is still generally the way things are: http://www.kubuntu.org/docs/kquickguide/C/ch03s07.html [04:23] as I said earlier [04:23] scroll down for splash [04:23] valorie: i must've missed it, been messing with networking [04:23] lol valorie [04:24] my games work fine, at least klondike does! [04:24] valorie: i don't mean the kde splash, it's the kubuntu boot splash [04:24] valorie: is that in here? [04:24] right, there are two [04:24] the kubuntu one is prettier, IMO [04:25] KDE needs some freshening up [04:25] valorie: let me try to get you the image [04:25] try imagebin.ca [04:26] valorie: http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/1366/splashc.jpg [04:26] valorie: ugly, eh? [04:26] that's broken, all right [04:27] valorie: is there a way to reinstall it? [04:27] what do you have there? [04:27] did you upgrade recently? [04:27] valorie: this is an install from an ubuntu disc that i installed kubuntu-desktop on, splash worked then, then i'm not sure what broke it [04:28] valorie: i've used the kubuntu-ppa to install 4.5.2, but that didn't break any splash on my other machines [04:28] valorie: i just want the package name for the splash, really. [04:29] valorie: does ubuntu still use usplash? or what? [04:29] no idea about ubuntu [04:29] valorie: kubuntu [04:30] I tried installing kde-desktop over ubuntu with very bad results [04:30] I had to do a clean kub. 10.10 install [04:31] asked in kubuntu-devel: [04:31] [20:29] plymouth-theme-kubuntu-logo and plymouth-theme-kubuntu-text [04:31] [20:30] (text is used when the graphics drivers can't do a graphical theme) [04:31] cool [04:31] plymouth, why couldn't I think of it? [04:31] lol [04:31] thank you [04:31] restarting to find out if it worked, ran sudo apt-get --purge --reinstall install plymouth-theme-kubuntu-logo [04:33] valorie: failure! [04:39] I'm sorry to hear that [05:04] Does anyone know of a good way to fix an issue where when I'm logged in for a long amount of time my down scroll wheel refuses to scroll applications down without clicking it a bazillion times? [05:05] I can't even think of what I can google... [05:25] It seems to be independent of my XSession, because I started a gnome session and it's still not working... [05:25] I also tried unplugging it and plugging it back in [05:30] OmnipotentEntity: it sounds more like your mouse is no longer being listened to [05:32] valorie, what's the best way to fix that? [05:32] sorry, i don't have a clue [05:38] When I cat /dev/input/mouse1 and scroll the wheel up and down it exhibits the same behavior. When I rmmod usbhid && modprobe usbhid it doesn't fix it. :( [05:39] might be hardware? [05:40] do you have another mouse you could try? [05:42] nay [05:44] valorie: did you leave ping jon.pmtech.com running? [05:45] valorie: because i have a ping coming in every second when i look on wireshark [05:45] valorie: it just can't respond from that interface for some reason [05:49] valorie, thanks for your help, I took apart my trackball and de-dustbunnyerized it and it works fine now. :D [06:01] is anyone having issues with strigi on Kubuntu 10.10? it seems to just working for no reason [06:03] use to have that issue on lucid with kde 4.5 where strigi would work for a while then just stopped working and that would be the case for a long while then it would start working.. but this is the first time I am experiencing same issue on 10.10 and am not alone the guy on identica has the same issue https://identi.ca/notice/57022486 [06:05] jschall: heh [06:05] it did finally start pinging, yes [06:05] sorry about that [06:05] valorie: you're getting replies [06:05] valorie: i know it did [06:05] well, I closed the bash window [06:05] valorie: i was just asking because i could see the requests coming in but not going out [06:06] valorie: i'm trying to fix it properly [06:06] valorie: basically i have two interfaces [06:06] valorie: two subnets [06:06] valorie: two gateways [06:06] well, I'm no longer pinging [06:06] valorie: and i think the way it was set up before, the pings were trying to go out the default gateway which was the gateway for the other interface [06:07] valorie: i can see that =P [06:07] valorie: so now i'm trying to follow this guide: http://kindlund.wordpress.com/2007/11/19/configuring-multiple-default-routes-in-linux/ [06:08] bigbrovar: it used to stop all the time for me too [06:09] so I just turned it off [06:09] valorie: yeah I wish I could do that. but turning it off makes it almost impossible to search. [06:10] updatedb and locate? [06:10] I don't tag stuff anyway [06:10] except music [06:10] and Amarok finds that beautifully [06:10] when it works it works so beautifully. it seems to be reaching some type of limit or code expairation .. it would be nice if we can track what the issue is [06:11] indeed [06:11] I can always use locate on the server but IMHO its not meant for the desktop like I said strigi use to work very well when it decide to work. when* [06:12] there is #strigi [06:12] I don't know though if this is just a kubuntu bug or a general kde 4.5 bug [06:12] I guess you could search both bug databases [06:12] lp and bko [06:13] cool let me head over there. I hope I don't get flamed for using kubuntu cus that is the usual response I get with upstream [06:13] sure good idea [06:13] what? [06:13] that sucks! [06:13] all the kde people I know are very cool [06:13] yeah :( [06:13] and some of them use kub. [06:14] geez, freedom! [06:14] yeah guess its the bad egges then lol [06:14] jerks will always be jerks we cant be borthered [06:14] let me head over to the strigi channel [06:14] Riddell is active in both kub. and kde [06:14] thanks valorie [06:20] good morning [06:20] does anybody also has the problem with sound on a fresh start, that no soun dis active... i need to mmute, unmute sound to get it work.. and also the volume is set to very low.. i also need to volume up.. [06:21] in 10.04, or 10.10? [06:21] 10.10 [06:21] I had that identical problem in 10.04 [06:22] but it's now solved for me in 10.10 [06:22] after that step sound works perfect.. louder then ever.. [06:22] hehe.. strange [06:22] however, sometimes people need to install pavucontrol [06:22] and go through all the devices [06:22] this is installed [06:22] seems to wake PA up, or something [06:22] I've not needed to use it after that once [06:23] my mic was muted [06:23] it's worked ever since [06:23] you might start up alsamixer in a console [06:23] make sure all channels are turned up [06:23] as ai sa, i need just mte/unmute sound to get it work [06:24] ok [06:24] well, i never tracked down the cause [06:24] and seemed to be the only one affected [06:24] will file a bug.. [06:24] I filed a bug, but there was no attention paid to it [06:24] maybe they will this time around [06:24] :-) [06:25] have you the bug id, or link? [06:25] is there any way to check a ntfs hd for filesystem errors an dix them? [06:28] hi to all [06:28] good morning dennis___ [06:40] hey someone was telling me that network-manager was going away [06:41] it doesn't seem to be away [06:41] why is it not away? [06:41] i want it to go away [06:53] jschall: you want it removed? [07:08] who i can connect to server in KDE . non CLI mode ! === mah454 is now known as mahsom === mahsom is now known as mah454 [07:09] who i can connect to server in KDE . non CLI mode ! [07:27] noaXess: sorry, didn't see your message. i removed it a long time ago on my desktop, but i still have to use it for wireless on my netbook [07:29] hello [07:29] noaXess: i've never seen an OS that makes connecting to wifi networks so complicated for the user. [07:30] who i can Connect to server on kubuntu GUI mode . [07:30] mahsom: what's your first language? [07:30] farsi === mahsom is now known as mah454 [07:32] mah454: what are trying to ask? you want to use remote desktop? [07:32] Nautilus can connect to other server . but in dolphin can not . [07:33] mah454: i understand that. [07:33] mah454: it should be able to. [07:34] mah454: what type of server are you trying to connect to? sftp, smb, ftp? [07:34] connecting over ssh in gui mode [07:35] mah454: you should be able to type the hostname or ip address of your server after sftp:// in dolphin's address bar [07:35] mah454: and connect [07:36] thank you :) [07:37] mah454: if you hold on while i get openssh on this new install, i'll try it for myself [07:39] mah454: http://jon.pmtech.com/~jschall/snapshot2.png [07:39] no . thank you [07:39] mah454: i'm sorry? [07:39] excuse me ... ! [07:41] mah454: it's alright, it was just unclear whether you were refusing to click on my link or telling me that it was unnecessary to try it myself [07:41] mah454: and i still am =P [07:41] please wait [07:42] mah454: was i able to solve your problem? does the link depict what you were asking about? [07:43] My problem is fixed ... [07:43] mah454: ok, that's great [07:51] jschall: i haven't problem with wifi.. i use wicd.. cause it's easier and faster... === mahsom is now known as mah454 === mahsom is now known as mah454 [08:25] when setting encrypted /home upon install, whats the method used, pam-encfs ? something else? [08:30] hi i have a problem with the update of my intel graphics driver ... are there any problems reportet with dual monitor and intel [08:48] hi [09:00] how could i make windows xp (in virtualbox) see my USB that i attached to my Kubuntu ? [09:04] How can I stream my webcam to a web site? I have installed apache web server and I have a web cam. [09:09] i accidently deleted all the stuff in /etc/init/ [09:09] what should i do now? [09:14] greenmang0: do you have a backup somewhere that you can copy back? [09:14] valorie: nope :( [09:15] that's my only suggestion, so you might search the ubuntuforums [09:15] that isn't a kubuntu-only type question [09:16] might be more people around in #ubuntu , also [09:17] valorie: i am using kubuntu that's why i asked here... i did ask in #ubuntu as well :0 [09:19] valorie: can you give me your /etc/init/ ? [09:20] oh, how would you suggest I do that? [09:20] are you on 10.10? [09:27] valorie: yes [09:41] I'm not much of a techie, I'm afraid === PsyTrance_ is now known as PsyTrance [09:41] I know how to copy files from one place to another [09:41] but I wouldn't have a clue how to copy them all over to you [09:42] do you have a LoCo where you are? [09:42] or a LUG? [09:46] greenmang0: I don't think /etc/init are same on all the computers as they might be customised during install [09:46] so copying someone's /etc/init may not help [09:47] any ideas for greenmang0, geekosopher? [09:47] is there an irc chan for Kubuntu Trinity? [09:47] geekosopher: ok.... [09:47] greenmang0: as valorie suggested, you will be better off asking on ubuntuforums, linuxquestion or other forums [09:48] valorie: i am installing kubuntu through virtualbox and then will copy /etc/init/ stuff to host installation [09:48] SpaceMint: if there is one, it would have been mentioned on the project's webpage [09:48] geekosopher: ^^ how about that? [09:49] that is a creative idea [09:49] greenmang0: virtualbox is not the same hardware as your physical computer [09:49] so it will be same as copying valorie's /etc/init [09:49] :) [09:50] geekosopher: yeah... that's true [09:50] but I think there is a reason that end of the line testing is done really, rather than virtually [09:50] I think if it were me [09:50] I would make sure my backup of /home is awesome [09:50] and reinstall [09:51] greenmang0: i would second valorie's suggestion [09:54] greenmang0: also if you have installed a lot of extra software, and don't remember each one of them, I suggest you refer to http://nancib.wordpress.com/2010/09/13/creating-and-using-a-list-of-packages-you-have-installed/ [09:58] woah, I never even thought of using ubuntuone [09:58] how can i install virtualbox puel version instead of ose ? [09:58] although it's a pain to use in kubuntu [10:00] valorie: how do you use ubuntuone in kubuntu? [10:00] is there a client anywhere? [10:01] no, there was one created [10:02] but changes in ubuntuone broke it [10:02] :( [10:02] so you have to use it with gtk stuffs [10:02] or just use the website [10:02] it can be used on the commandline also [10:02] because basically it's just a specially linked folder [10:02] valorie: commandline? how? [10:03] where you put stuff you want to share [10:04] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/FAQ [10:04] geekosopher: thanks for that link :0 [10:04] :) [10:04] it's sorta mixed in there [10:04] valorie: thanks [10:04] greenmang0: always welcome === mahsom is now known as mah454 [10:13] I do installing nvidia driver version 256.44 . now my boot splash screen (Plymouth) has been crashed . who i can fix this ? [10:13] mah454: you have to install older version of nvidia drivers [10:13] !nvidia [10:13] For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto [10:13] [ 7.894410] [drm] detected 127M stolen memory, trimming to 32M [10:14] [ 7.894498] [drm] set up 32M of stolen space [10:14] does this means its using 32mb instead of 127m ? [10:15] Ok . my linux kernel header installed but when i can not install nvidia 185.1.31 . Error "Install linux hernel header" [10:16] i can not install nvidia 185.1.31 . Error "Install linux hernel header" [10:16] mah454: nice you have fucked up yor sissytem [10:16] in some dirty way [10:17] befor installing this version i do run nvidia-unistall and unistall nvidia driver . [10:18] mah454: sudo apt-get autoremove [10:18] Peace-: language [10:18] no no no download nvdia driver from www.nvidia.com [10:21] mah454: that is thte nicer way to destroy your distro if you are not expert [10:21] there are repository use that [10:21] we doesn't support every single package you find on the web, only official packages [10:22] i can undrestand your help . i am expert . [10:22] if you do that by yourself you should understand you do to your own risk [10:23] mah454: the packages in repositories are custom built for ubuntu, so there will be less chances of breaking your system [10:24] ok . i installing nvidia driver from kubuntu repository . thank you [10:26] Hi, if I change user with "su otheruser" ~/.profile doesn't affect. Why? I need it badly since there are userdefined environment-datas I need for otheruser. [10:26] mah454: always welcome [10:26] :) [10:27] floh79: i guess every single stuff is saved on $HOME/.kde [10:29] Peace-: I didn't understand what you mean. [10:29] Peace-: And why .kde? I think its bash-issue, isn't it? [10:29] I change user by entering "su otheruser" in konsole. [10:32] floh79: even if you change user using 'su otheruser', your home directory does not change. It would be better idea to login with that userid on another session [10:33] geekosopher: I don't want use another session. Ok well... then I should use chroot instead. [10:34] floh79: from the manpage: chroot - run command or interactive shell with special root directory [10:34] !chroot [10:34] A chroot is used to make programs believe that the directory they are running in is really the root directory. It can be used to stop programs accessing files outside of that directory, or for compiling 32bit applications in a 64bit environment - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot [10:35] geekosopher: Jupp, I know. [10:36] great then :) [10:51] Hi:) [11:35] Hi All [11:35] I just updated to 10:10 and my netbook has the netbook interface on - how do I change it back to normal kde [11:44] ken_fallon_away system settings->workspace [11:44] change the workspace type [11:48] regarding the upgrade conf files release note, will the installer let me know which files I will need to diff manually? [11:55] valorie: you there? [12:11] hello guys [12:11] how can I send mail in kmail as html? I can not find any option [12:40] what is keyboard shurtcut for minimize and maximize windows ? [12:42] in Gnome : for maximize is + [12:53] cojack: compose then Options -> Formatting (HTML) === ken_fallon_away is now known as ken_fallon [13:00] mah454_: According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Table_of_keyboard_shortcuts this is not possible in kde [13:02] mah454_: There is a scriot here to do it - http://blog.hartwork.org/?p=524 [13:04] ken_fallon: I can not find this... [13:04] kde have not shortcut for minimize or maximize windows ! [13:05] mah454_: looks like it [13:05] cojack: are you composing an email [13:06] for example in gnome i can move any window with + . what is this shortcut in kde ? [13:06] mah454_: I'm seeing something on the gentoo forum about kdeplasma-addons alowing it [13:06] ken_fallon: I have checked this option [13:06] but when I send it at gmail.com host, and read it via web browser on gmail.com site, message was display as plain text [13:14] cojack: testing . . . . [13:15] cojack: I just sent a mail to my gemail account that had hello in arial font and green text and it came through [13:18] ken_fallon: strange... ;/ === nacer_ is now known as nacer [13:35] Well, I'm new to this and need some help with my wireless card === rackIT is now known as rackIT_AFK [13:45] !wifi | ken [13:45] ken: Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs [13:50] regarding the upgrade conf files release note, will the installer let me know which files I will need to diff manually? [14:13] Upgraded from Kubuntu 10.10 RC and see applications like konqueror and dolphin without the menu bar. Googled without results. Any ideas? === andi is now known as haudegen [14:54] I just completed an upgrade lucid -> maverick, all seemed to go well, but after reboot I get a grub prompt. This on a winxp netbook with wubi (dual-boot menu shows ok before grub). What went wrong? [14:57] Hiyas [14:57] hey BluesKaj [14:58] hi amichair [15:01] BluesKaj: have you upgraded to 10.10? [15:01] having probs on my desktop with reinstalling 10.10 , the kernel 2.6.35-24-generic is trying to load but the kerenel in this pc is 2.6.35-22-generic ... the desktop hangs at grub.cfg because it seems to me it's looking for the wrong kernel ...very strange [15:02] hmmm... I just finished an upgrade and after reboot I'm getting a grub prompt, and I'm stuck here. [15:02] I'm presently using our media server pc [15:03] yup, that's probly it ...been looking for the bug fix on launchpad ...lots of reports but no fixes so far [15:04] is the pc you're stuck on an older model like mine 4-5 yrs old ? [15:05] nope, a netbook, a couple years old. with wubi. I'm reading through bug reports as well, but no luck so far [15:08] amichair, which repos are you using? USA, main or ? [15:09] I don't remember :-/ [15:09] why? [15:10] look in your sources.list or package manager ...I'm using the Canadian sources , but thinking of trying a different one , then changing time and location later [15:10] BluesKaj: how do I do that without booting? Or how do I boot manually? [15:13] amichair, oh sorry , I thought you were logged on [15:13] nope, still at the grub prompt [15:13] I'll run chkdsk just in case [15:15] amichair, could be the same prob I have ...dunno how to fix it ..yet [15:17] ja [15:17] somebody [15:17] ls [15:18] BluesKaj: wierd, I ran chkdsk, showed no errors, then tried again and it booted into kubuntu (with a little message about it fixing the windows partition which wasn't closed cleanly or something)... [15:19]