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AlanBellPendulum: in dasher preferences on the language tab if you change the direction to custom can you activate the radio buttons below?21:22
PendulumAlanBell: no21:29
Pendulumlooks like a bug21:29
AlanBellok21:30
AlanBelldid I tell you about the daily dash of dasher I set up?21:30
Pendulumno21:31
AlanBellmy PPA now has daily builds of dasher from the gnome git tree21:31
AlanBellwhich was a lot easier to set up than it sounds21:31
AlanBellbug 66475021:34
ubot2Launchpad bug 664750 in dasher (Ubuntu) "custom direction radio buttons don't activate (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/66475021:34
AlanBellfeel free to confirm and comment and I will forward it upstream21:35
Pendulumcan I confirm even though I don't usually do bug stuff?21:37
AlanBellyes, you certainly can21:37
AlanBellanyone can confirm apart from the person who submitted the bug21:37
AlanBellI filed it, you have independently tested it and can confirm it.21:38
AlanBellBug #63774721:39
ubot2AlanBell: Bug 637747 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/637747 is private21:39
PendulumAlanBell: done on that bug21:39
Pendulumwhat was the 2nd bug?21:39
AlanBellit was referenced on another one, I think it is an automatic crash log or something, I just wanted to see if ubot2 could see any more of it than I can21:40
PendulumAlanBell: also, I got an answer from Patrick re: the direct input in 3.0 issue. I'll forward it to you because I only 1/2 understand it21:40
PendulumAlanBell: btw, do you have a preferred e-mail? I have 3 of them for you in my address book :P21:41
AlanBellthey all end up in the same place really!21:42
AlanBellalanbell@ubuntu.com I guess21:42
Pendulumheh, too late. I sent to the first one on my list :P21:42
AlanBellgot it21:44
AlanBelloh my, that is quite a suggestion21:44
AlanBellok, so lets put aside the suggestion that users recompile it with a different build option for the moment!21:46
AlanBellhowever his basic point is that the "typing into apps" bit doesn't use at-spi21:46
Pendulumyeah21:46
Pendulumwhich I don't think has been clear in any of the gnome documentation, so at least that I can make clear for them21:47
AlanBellI think from the mail he sent me the at-spi bit tells dasher which window has focus21:47
Pendulumand he failed to answer my "are you thinking of porting to dbus" question21:47
AlanBellSladen is joining in nicely on the gnome bug :)21:48
PendulumAlanBell: well he was the person who filed the bug for me originally :)21:48
Pendulumhe's poked me to comment21:48
PendulumI'm just failing to remember my bugzilla login info21:48
AlanBellyup21:49
charlie-tcahttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dasher/+bug/637747 is no longer private21:51
ubot2Launchpad bug 637747 in dasher (Ubuntu) "dasher crashed with SIGSEGV in Dasher::CDasherModel::HandleOutput() (affects: 1) (heat: 12)" [Medium,New]21:51
charlie-tcaapport bug reports are automatically marked private until we can check to make sure there is no private information in them21:52
PendulumAlanBell: that's the one that was fixed in Maverick, yes?21:52
PendulumAlanBell: okay, have found my username. now to try to remember password...21:52
Pendulumargh. it's telling me that neither e-mail address I could have used is a valid log-in21:53
charlie-tcaAlanBell, Pendulum : if you let me know these bug numbers, I can make them public for us21:54
Pendulumcharlie-tca: we're talking about some gnome bugs, mostly21:55
AlanBellPendulum: that is similar to the crash that was fixed, but it is new21:55
AlanBellthanks charlie-tca 21:55
AlanBellhttps://launchpad.net/~alanbell/+archive/ppa dasher 4.11 built for Lucid daily (Maverick build is not working for some reason right now)21:57
PendulumI notice the GTK errors that show up if you run direct mode were reported 2 years ago as a gnome bug and still haven't been fixed :-/21:59
PendulumI really wish I knew how to help22:00
Pendulumobviously I need to relearn coding ;-)22:00
Pendulumor at least C22:01
Pendulum(I have yet to see a good argument about why I should relearn java ;-) )22:01
AlanBellwould dasher work well with multitouch or on a tablet thingummy?22:02
Pendulumit does :)22:03
AlanBellok, so there are about 3 squillion touch sessions at UDS22:04
AlanBellit will be a touchy feely UDS22:04
AlanBelland they should be talking about Dasher22:04
Pendulumor at least, it works well on my mac trackpad and it works well with my wacom tablet (when I have Ubuntu set up correctly for the Wacom)22:04
AlanBellso rather than learning C, get 20 C programmers excited by it and see what happens22:05
Pendulumbut I liked C22:13
Pendulum;-)22:13
Pendulumbut, yes, I'm going to try22:13
AlanBelldo both then!22:13
Pendulumnot to mention the on screen keyboard session22:13
PendulumI am sad that sladen isn't making it to UDS :(22:14
AlanBelloh, didn't realise, that is a shame22:15
AlanBellit will be light on Brits all round22:15
Pendulumsomething where he would have been taking a boat that left 4 October, but then he didn't make it on the boat or something22:15
AlanBellwhut? he was taking a boat to Florida??22:17
Pendulumyes22:22
Pendulumbecause this time of year if you book last minute, transatlantic crossings to the US are cheap22:22
Pendulumbecause places are moving their boats from the Med to the Caribbean22:23
Pendulums/places/companies22:23
AlanBellwow22:38
AlanBellhttps://code.edge.launchpad.net/~alanbell/+recipe/daily-dash-of-dasher23:03
AlanBellhttp://www.doctort.org/adam/nerd-notes/x11-fake-keypress-event.html this is the kind of thing that dasher does on the inside with that XTestFakeKeyEvent stuff23:07

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