| zniavre_ | new indicator-sound scale is tricky as gnome-panel | 08:50 |
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| zniavre_ | sorry... good morning | 08:52 |
| thorwil | good morning! | 08:52 |
| zniavre_ | im now struggling with gtkrc for google chrome web-browser | 08:55 |
| zniavre_ | http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/6255/captureup.png > for this small insensitive menu-button border | 08:56 |
| thorwil | i have to move the wm buttons to the right on my mother's laptop. gconftool-2 --set “/apps/metacity/general/button_layout” --type string “:minimize,maximize,close” | 13:28 |
| thorwil | works, except i only get minimiz, maximize, no close button | 13:29 |
| thorwil | anyone seen that, knows a solution? | 13:29 |
| zniavre | “menu:minimize,maximize,close” ? | 13:43 |
| zniavre | there is a way to use translucide image with pixmap engine? | 14:06 |
| thorwil | no matter what, i do, "close" is ignored. no friggin close button | 14:41 |
| thorwil | ah, ":minimize,maximize,close," fixed it. note the comma at the end | 14:46 |
| vish | zniavre ¦ doesnt any image work? what is the problem with a semi-transparent image you noticed? | 15:41 |
| zniavre | i made a semi transparent image but it's not transparent in use | 15:45 |
| zniavre | it's for menu's background | 15:46 |
| vish | zniavre ¦ i dont think it that would work, i was thinking about the metacity buttons.. | 16:18 |
| zniavre | vish, you are right, it's not possible at this moment to do it | 16:47 |
| vish | zniavre ¦ how gtk does is, it first draws a background with bg-color and then uses the pixmap | 16:47 |
| vish | so no transparency possible unless it is in the engine.. | 16:48 |
| zniavre | and pixmap does not do transparency right? | 16:51 |
| vish | afaik, no.. | 16:51 |
| zniavre | pixmap-engine* | 16:51 |
| doctormo | Morning all | 17:22 |
| zniavre | doctormo, good "evening" :o) | 17:23 |
| vish | good night :) | 17:23 |
| * vish ZZZzzzzzzz... | 17:23 | |
| doctormo | lol | 17:23 |
| daker | morning doctormo | 17:31 |
| thorwil | aloha | 17:31 |
| ronnie_vd_c | doctormo, daker, thorwil, anything i can do for now for erato? | 17:32 |
| daker | doctormo, are able to run erato ? | 17:33 |
| doctormo | ronnie_vd_c: I just merged in your latest trunk | 17:33 |
| doctormo | daker: I merged in a lot of your changes too, but I had to do yours manually. So you'll have to mark your branch in launchpad. | 17:35 |
| thorwil | ronnie_vd_c: not for what there is now, but if you are interested, it would be great to have concurrent editing (like etherpad) figured out. | 17:35 |
| thorwil | ronnie_vd_c: and/or how to best combine bzr or git based version management with a database to do queries | 17:36 |
| doctormo | daker: Everything's working here. | 17:37 |
| daker | oki man | 17:37 |
| ronnie_vd_c | for another project, ill use phpmyadmin with mysql database. when the database is upgraded, i export the new database content (only the necessary data) into one sql file. the other users, runs a script, which deletes an own database and import the new one. Do you have an proposal for an better idea? | 17:39 |
| doctormo | Even the openid and logging in, nice work. | 17:39 |
| daker | ;) | 17:39 |
| doctormo | thorwil: I think I might have the know how to do the bzr intergration. | 17:39 |
| ronnie_vd_c | doctormo, wherefore do you need an etherpad alternative? | 17:40 |
| doctormo | I don't, see thorwil | 17:40 |
| thorwil | ronnie_vd_c: parts of the site will play a role similar to a wiki. concurrent editing avoids locking and edit conflicts | 17:41 |
| thorwil | ronnie_vd_c: i'd like to see blocks of content that are editable after a single click (if not immediately), without a page reload | 17:42 |
| doctormo | thorwil: Is it more important for coders to be doing research, or programming? or are we almost finished with this level 1? | 17:44 |
| thorwil | doctormo: i figure coordinating 3 coders working on a currently narrow project is not necesarily of advantage | 17:45 |
| thorwil | doctormo: research beats idling | 17:45 |
| thorwil | and if nothing else, ronnie_vd_c now knows about those ideas and reasoning | 17:46 |
| doctormo | true | 17:46 |
| thorwil | i guess the database will have to be kept out of the vcs and needs to track all versions of all files. well, all files we might want to query for | 17:50 |
| ronnie_vd_c | thorwil, you mean to research the best way to some basic ajax into django for editing without page reload? | 17:51 |
| thorwil | ronnie_vd_c: i assume that avoiding page reloads, doing ajax in django and concurrent editing will all be closely related | 17:52 |
| thorwil | perhaps we should be a bit daring and outright require javascript? assuming it will save some effort, where we would otherwise have to make sure things degrade gracefully | 17:54 |
| ronnie_vd_c | thorwil, the best solution for concurrent editing should be websockets, but its hard to implement in django, because it keeps 1 connection open. I dont know if django can handle that. Also its a HTML5 technique so not many browsers except FF and Chrome supports is. Al alternative way is to use comet | 17:54 |
| ronnie_vd_c | concurrent editing is impossible without javascript, but for other parts i agree there should be a non-js alternative. But from my limited experience, django does this job very well | 17:56 |
| thorwil | ronnie_vd_c: reagrding browser support, i'd say: build for the future. especially since many in our audience will stay recent, regarding updates | 17:56 |
| thorwil | ronnie_vd_c: seems relevant: http://www.lshift.net/blog/2009/03/02/evserver-part3-simplified-etherpad-clone | 17:59 |
| thorwil | also http://neil.fraser.name/writing/sync/ and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operational_transformation | 17:59 |
| * thorwil -> dinner | 18:09 | |
| daker | doctormo, if the code you are using in ubuntu-us-ma website is grabing the realname, email so we should use it | 18:20 |
| doctormo | daker: Do you want to work on the openid if I work on the asset upload? | 18:21 |
| daker | ok | 18:21 |
| thorwil | vish: finally artwork team logo proposals. but of course not pen/paper, not presented without type, not on foopics :) | 20:09 |
| thorwil | doctormo: not satisfied yet, but for tonight, this is what the mockup looks like: http://www.foopics.com/showfull/05cc4fddd708942150d8335a0fdb8cae | 21:07 |
| thorwil | svg is in the meta-design-center branch | 21:07 |
| doctormo | thorwil: Interesting design, very blender like. | 21:08 |
| thorwil | hmm, yeah | 21:11 |
| thorwil | good night! :) | 21:14 |
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