=== ecanto is now known as ecanto_ === ecanto_ is now known as ecanto [07:23] good morning [07:26] morning [08:03] morning ara__, kim0, duanedesign :) [08:03] nigelb: morning :) [08:04] o/ morning everyone === ara_ is now known as ara [08:05] Good morning! :) [08:07] morning dholbach [08:07] I was juat about asking "no dholbach?" [08:07] * nigelb wonders if dholbach is sneezing [08:09] hey nigelb [08:09] sneezing? [08:10] ya know, we were just talking about you, etc [08:11] ahhhhhhhhh [08:11] no, I wasn't sneezing :) [08:12] lol :) [08:17] haha [08:39] good morning all [08:44] morning dpm :) [08:47] hey, good morning nigelb :) === ara_ is now known as ara [10:31] Aloha [10:31] hey czajkowski, good morning! [10:44] czajkowski: howdy [10:44] so busy weekend full of travel [10:44] when are folks heading to USA ? [10:47] sunday for me [11:36] Sat here [11:49] I arrive sunday afternoon I think [11:49] so not too bad [11:51] morning all [11:52] im trying to get to orlando early on Sunday [11:53] that way i can spend some time in the hotel pool (water slide) before things get going :) [11:58] hehe [11:58] hotel looks FAB [11:58] I expect lots of photos! [12:06] popey: i am trying to make room for my camera and video camera. Im so cheap i am trying to fit everything in my two carry ons [12:18] :) [12:40] hey all [12:40] dholbach, kim0_, jcastro, dpm I just sent you a mail re. outstanding sessions for UDS [12:41] if you could check into that ASAP, that would be great [12:41] hiya jono [12:41] dholbach, did you schedule a session where we review the mind maps and break down and assess the process? [12:41] Pendulum, howdy! just approved your blueprint [12:41] jono: awesome! wasn't even poking, was just saying hi :-) [12:42] I am hoping that phrasing that blueprint that way means more than just existing accessibility team type people show up [12:42] Pendulum, I know, I just didnt want you to think I didnt care :) [12:42] Pendulum, awesome :-) [12:43] jono: I never think you don't care :P [12:43] Pendulum, I think we need a session on Unity Accessibility [12:43] Luke already has one, I think [12:43] it is a key piece of Ubuntu infrastructure, and I think your team could really help [12:43] sweet! [12:43] yeah [12:43] should get a t-shirt made up for UDS... [12:43] [12:43] Pendulum, I am here at the venue now and will be reviewing a stack of the sessions to make sure we dont miss anything [12:43] Jono Cares. [12:43] [12:43] popey, hah [12:43] :) [12:43] WWJD! [12:43] jono: awesome. [12:43] popey, if only it were true [12:44] * popey hugs jono [12:44] probably not this UDS, but I'd love to at some point do something about website accessibility [12:44] and also dholbach so he doesn't get jealous [12:44] but the Ubuntu/Canonical websites (and the new designs) aren't very [12:47] jcastro: now that it's been approved, can you make sure the accessibility blueprint is any day other than thursday? [12:48] jono, ok, read the e-mail. All mine were approved, I just need to talk to jcastro for the scheduling [12:49] jcastro: jono: New IRC Council Blueprint just created: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ubuntutheproject-n-irc-council [13:02] brb, rebooting === kim0_ is now known as kim0 [14:24] Pendulum: ok, which one and where? === ara_ is now known as ara [14:27] jcastro: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-community/+spec/ubuntutheproject-community-n-improving-accessibility-devel-and-info and I don't know if the auto scheduler has scheduled since jono approved it, but I just need to make sure it's any day other than thursday (although obviously I'd prefer it to be wednesday or earlier rather than friday) [14:27] jcastro: nevermind [14:27] it's already scheduled in a time that works :) [14:27] Pendulum: it's been scheduled for tuesday [14:28] yeah [14:28] I hadn't gotten a chance to check until now [14:28] I will move it later in the day though [14:28] it's putting sessions next to the roundtables [14:28] *nods* [14:28] if there's any chance to have it before noon so that it'll be a little easier for the europeans who'll be attending remotely, I'd appreciate it [14:29] ok [14:29] so many rocking sessions! [14:29] hope the gally photoshoot finds a slot [14:29] Pendulum: next hour slot, so 10am [14:30] jcastro: awesome, thanks :) [14:34] hey czajkowski [14:56] can someone going to UDS please update the topic of #ubuntu-uds [14:56] it is pointing to uds-m resources [15:04] popey: I'll take a look [15:05] tag team Pici and jussi on the case! [15:05] I think the page is sorted now [15:05] _think_ [15:06] please some others cast eyes on it and tell me everything Ive forgotten [15:08] Is there a better lifestream link? [15:08] Karmic is a bit old ;) [15:09] hehe [15:09] I got to go home now, but Ill come bak in about ½ hour [15:12] dholbach, on your music machine, are you using a realtime or lowlatency kernel? [15:14] Pici: I was going to fix that [15:14] <-out for a bit [15:14] back later [15:16] AlanBell: Will it be at the same link? If not, let me know and we'll update the topic in the relevant places. [15:20] would be at the same link, I see no reason to change that [15:28] AlanBell: did your wiki theme fixes end up going to someone? [15:28] I think I prefered your screenshot to what I am using now [15:32] the light right now isn't so great [15:32] I just changed it back to default after frustration :/ [15:33] jcastro: Any idea when the wiki theme change hits everyone? (becomes default) [15:34] not sure [15:35] Sigh. It will definitely mean redoing a bunch of wiki pages :/ [15:37] and/or purging [15:37] we could use a good purging [15:38] jcastro, (or anyone else) do you know if there is a Launchpad project where to report bugs against the wiki theme? [15:38] not afail, AlanBell might know [15:39] ubuntu-website I would imagine? [15:39] mn will see it [15:42] dpm: popey's right, ubuntu-website [15:43] There is a series called light-moin-theme [15:43] jcastro sup you looking for me [15:44] dpm: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website/+bugs?field.tag=light-wiki [15:44] czajkowski: I've assigned your crew, you want to lead again? [15:44] nigelb, popey, thanks, will file a bunch before going to UDS :) [15:45] sure [15:45] dpm: remember to harass cjohnston, he's part of website team :p [15:45] I'll harass everyone I can, no trouble :) [15:45] haha, thank you [15:45] MUHahahahaha I'm immune from your harassment! [15:46] given I wont be there :) [15:46] * nigelb too [15:46] * popey quickly changes his email address and locks the door [15:46] meh, email address change [15:47] heya sense :) [15:47] czajkowski: you've got mail [15:48] hi nigelb! [15:48] good afternoon everyone [15:50] * dpm hugs popey - but will find a way to locate him [15:50] :) [15:50] dpm: popey.com or britishelvis.co.uk :D [15:51] * nigelb runs from popey. fast. [15:51] czajkowski: did we do sign changing with the crew last time? [15:53] dpm: yes . . [15:53] dpm: ah, nigelb got it [15:53] :D [15:53] dpm: file loads and join #ubuntu-website and harrass newz2000 [15:54] thanks AlanBell :-) [15:54] dpm: moar people to harass :p [15:54] nigelb: who are you harrassing this time? [15:55] Pendulum: Not me, Im recommending people to be harrased at uds. Top of the list is chris :D [16:02] JFo, a regular kernel [16:02] JFo, but only 2.6.32-22 works, everything else after that is broken [16:11] jcastro ¦ i have to run two back-to-back session on tue evening , would that be ok? [since i'm crew for that day] [16:11] or should i be asking czajkowski ^ [16:11] vish: ok I can swap you out [16:12] vish: done [16:12] you're on thursday now [16:12] cool! , [16:12] * vish checks schedule again.. [16:14] jcastro ¦ thu is good, thankx :) [16:15] my ISP is coming to replace my modem, if jono shows up looking for me tell him to call me if it's important. I should be back in an hour [16:25] jcastro, what day are you arriving Orlando? [16:25] Need to bend your ear about video stuffs [16:26] jcastro: hey when do we find out our roommates? [16:29] maco: I suspect if you e-mailed Marianna to ask she'd be able to tell you. [16:31] Does anyone know already what the internet is like in the hotel? [16:31] sense: ask gord, maybe he'll know since he's alaready there [16:31] but then, with geek invasion.... [16:32] nigelb: When will you arribe? [16:32] * nigelb isn't coming [16:32] sense: he wont [16:32] awww [16:32] nigelb: Why not?! [16:32] darn visa [16:32] argh [16:32] Such a shame! [16:32] * paultag hugs nigelb [16:32] I would have loved to meet you. [16:32] * nigelb hugs paultag too [16:33] sense: I was hoping too meet a bunh of people :( [16:33] * nigelb goes to finish registering session [16:33] We'll watch IRC! [16:33] ubingo ftw [16:34] Ubingo? [16:34] sense: http://ubingo.libertus.co.uk/ [16:34] hurray! [16:35] but uds starts at like 1830 for me :D [16:35] commute time :/ [16:35] Stupid timezones and stupid visas! [16:35] The latter being the most stupid, of course. [16:36] Timezone stupidity is relative. [16:36] everyone should live in UTC :) [16:36] with no timezones anywhere [16:36] :) [16:36] Maybe we will, once we've mastered the sun. [16:37] heh [16:40] jcastro: when you come online, can you approve https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ubuntutheproject-community-n-ubuntu-news-team-goals-for-improvement-and-growth? [16:42] * sense is curious how many times we will hear someone scream "House!" during the opening keynote. [16:42] Too many Gregory House fans? :p [16:43] House! [16:44] * nigelb has season 1 through 6 with him [16:44] :D [16:44] I put it on in the background whilst I program [16:44] it's nice noise, and makes you chortle now and again [16:44] a rarity when dealing with compilers [16:45] nigelb: You scream House when you've got a bingo row, right? [16:45] Or not? [16:45] :S [16:45] sense: ah that! [16:45] I thought you'd scream bingo [16:45] paultag: heh, true [16:45] paultag: a peculiar sense of humor [16:46] nigelb: That's what I'd do, but I thought I could make up from your link that English do otherwise. [16:46] sense: bah, silly brits :p [16:46] house being "Full House" [16:46] sense: its run by AlanBell btw [16:47] ah [16:52] omg [16:53] oh, he's back [16:53] jcastro: can you approve and schedule https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ubuntutheproject-community-n-ubuntu-news-bof? [16:53] http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5720/comcastftw.png [16:53] nigelb: that's jono [16:54] jcastro: you mean talk to jono or I hve to change approver to jono? [16:54] jcastro: OMG! That's fast [16:55] err, change approver to you [16:58] nigelb: approver is jono [17:07] jcastro: ok, I'll ask amber to talk to him :) [17:26] Morning all [17:28] morning doctormo [17:37] Hail doctormo ! [17:38] Hail popey the mighty. [17:40] hi doctormo [17:40] have a great evening [17:40] see you tomorrow [17:40] * dholbach hugs you all [17:40] Is everyone getting excited about UDS next week? [17:40] of course! [17:41] doctormo: as I just said to czajkowski in another channel, 3 sleeps! [17:41] :D [17:41] well, 3 sleeps until I fly. Which is close enough for me ;-) [17:43] I think I might try the 3 sleeps rule, sleep before the plane, sleep on the plane, sleep int he hotel. [17:44] hah [17:44] \o/ sleep [17:44] I might try to be ambitious and try for 5+ hours of sleep a night at UDS [17:45] not an average, but actually minimum 5 hours every night [17:45] czajkowski: Are you in the UK or Ireland right now? [17:45] Ireland [17:45] will be till UDS, then back for 48hrs then UK [17:45] :D [17:45] blimey [17:45] czajkowski: Nice :-) Do they sell TCP in Ireland? [17:46] * popey will tidy up the UK for your return [17:46] of course we do [17:46] popey: don't you mean warn them of her impending invasion? [17:46] popey: geoff(dad) is thrilled I'm moving to the UK, the mothership on the other hand is being rather mummy about it all. [17:46] Pendulum: indeed, by "Tidy up" I of course meant "ready the troops" [17:47] i haven't seen a bottle of TCP in about 30 years [17:47] czajkowski: If you can pick me up a large bottle, I'll give you the dollars for it. [17:47] sure TCP [17:48] doctormo: I'll tell you what I'll swap you a bottle of TCP if you bring me taffey :D [17:48] Is that that salty sugary sticky stuff? I'll have to ask the wife. [17:48] yes [17:48] nyommy stuff [17:48] czajkowski: you realise you can probably buy taffy in Orlando, right? [17:49] I think there's a candy shop at Downtown Disney that would probably sell it [17:49] * popey snorts at the latest mail to loco-contacts [17:49] Pendulum: usually only find it on east coast tbh [17:49] czajkowski: Orlando *is* the east coast [17:49] "My first thought would be to hit up Amber" [17:49] lucky Amber! [17:49] heh [17:50] popey: aye but further south, just been my experience [17:50] it's a mid-atlantic states thing [17:50] que? [17:50] czajkowski: i was talking about dans mail to the list [17:51] NY -> Maryland or so is the easiest place to find it [17:51] Florida, future site of mid atlantic ocean. [17:52] popey: speaking of amber, did you see the crew page? specifically videos bit? [17:52] heh [17:52] czajkowski: there's a shop at Downtown Disney called Disney's Candy Cauldron. I'd be surprised if they didn't have it because Disney tends to try to get as wide a range of stuff as possible [17:52] ok [17:52] there's also Goofy's Candy Emporium [17:53] czajkowski: I can get you Old Boston Salt Water Taffy [17:53] yes [17:53] and I'll get TCP [17:53] any other requests from Ireland ? [17:53] czajkowski: for some people, we wish, "happy journey", "safe travels", but for you, its "happy hunting for taffy" :p [17:53] it's the small things in life that make me happy [17:53] small things in large quantities :p [17:54] Lepricons! [17:54] Leprechauns? [17:54] czajkowski: Almost everything else it's possible to get here. [17:54] well, Irish would know the spelling better ;p [17:55] czajkowski: bring tea if you want to drink something other than Lipton's crap [17:55] my memory is from Harry Potter [17:55] Pendulum: haha [17:55] I thought Lipton was good. [17:55] ewww [17:55] apparently, I was wrong. [17:55] so many better teas than Lipton [17:55] heh [17:55] hmm, Lipton is not too bad in India though [17:56] +1 [17:56] nigelb: Better a Leprechaun than a leannán sidhe [17:56] people are wrong about many things [17:56] http://xkcd.com/386 probably fits [17:56] oh yes I need to bring tea, still doesnt solve the issue of Americans NOT BOILING WATER but still [17:56] nt boiling milk either [17:56] popey: haha [17:56] nigelb: Liptons might be good where you are, but it's floor sweepings of the tetley factory here. [17:56] I now have xkcd down to numbers :p [17:56] doctormo: hah [17:56] czajkowski: I wish I could solve the boiling thing, but I no longer have a kettle I could bring with me :( [17:57] doctormo: but I don't drink tea much [17:57] czajkowski: I can bring my kettle (maerican) [17:57] tis fine [17:57] :) [17:57] * nigelb survives on coffee. Bru Coffee to be exact [17:57] for the few cuppas I make during the week it's not that bad [17:57] I don't like coffee [17:57] it just boggles me with them [17:57] I brought my electric kettle and tea to UDS Google2 [17:57] I can survive for one week on non-boiling water [17:58] (for my tea) [17:58] ww [17:58] eww [17:58] and I no longer put milk in my tea :( [17:58] tea needs to be pipping hot! [17:58] Pendulum: But if we have 3 people here who could do with a cuppa, then it makes sense for me to bring it no? [17:58] doctormo ¦ are you allowed to carry a kettle in the flight? [17:58] doctormo: I'm not going to tell you not to? :) [17:59] in the baggage even [17:59] vish: I can't see why not since it won't break and it's not going to be something that could hurt someone [17:59] vish: Sure, it's just an applience. [18:00] And I won't be brining it as carry on. [18:00] thats a good idea [18:00] i didnt even think about tea...or lack of [18:00] unless doctormo is planning to hijack with scalding hot water ! ;p [18:00] czajkowski: So to go with the tea, can you pick up a packet of digestives and rich tea? then we'll have got ourselves some fancy tea time. [18:00] vish: Where would I plug it in? [18:01] doctormo: do you have a preference in digestives? I can actually get a good selection around here of those usually [18:01] doctormo ¦ maybe you can think of something for that too.. you are doctormo for crying out loud!! :) [18:02] vish: hahaha "you are doctormo" [18:02] doctormo: McVitties or Jacobs ? [18:02] Go for the Irish :-) [18:02] ok, what does TCP expand to? [18:03] it's for cuts and some folks gargle with it when they have a sore throat [18:03] smells yummy [18:03] nigelb ¦ Transmission Control Protocol [18:03] nigelb: Trichlorophenylmethyliodosalicyl [18:03] transmissio control [18:03] doctormo: ah [18:03] ...to slow :P [18:03] and I'm not making that up. [18:03] I see it :) [18:04] doctormo: I thought it was an alcoholic drink, forgive my ignorance :D [18:04] czajkowski: Better than the floor cleaner Listerine that's for damn sure. [18:05] nigelb: http://www.multipharmacy.com/shop/files/sxdetail/50999699_IMAGE2.jpg [18:06] ah, something like dettol? [18:07] nigelb: If you could use dettol for your mouth ulsa or grazed cut, then yes. [18:07] doctormo: ok, not exactly like, but somwhat close I suppose [18:07] grazed cut, yes; mouth ulcer - NO WAY [18:08] I just realized - Its 43 km from my home to local airport o.O [18:08] nigelb: Did you know Literine was a floor cleaner before it was a mouthwash? There is a long history of cleaning products being reused as garglers. [18:08] nigelb: Are you coming? [18:08] doctormo: nah [18:08] hah! TCP was something totally different here! i guess duanedesign and me dint follow the conversation fully :D [18:08] heh [18:09] doctormo: I'm writing somethig to calculate fares [18:09] So I first had to find distance from google maps api [18:12] hrm, it works :D [18:13] dinda: the new google project is very interesting [18:13] nigelb: yes, definitely need to get Ubuntu as one of the official projects [18:14] nigelb: I especially like how they include other areas like dodumentation marketing, not just coding [18:14] \o/ that would be wonderful :) [18:14] for unitiated: http://thejournal.com/articles/2010/10/20/google-code-in-calls-on-k-12-students-to-become-open-source-developers.aspx [18:14] dinda: yeah, I really liked that, too [18:15] *uninitiated [18:15] Nothing like catching them early :) [18:16] They're looking into everything including translations - I'm reminded of your trip to Malaysia [18:16] Students get to translate ubuntu to their local language and start using it. So now they're contributors and users of that localized version [18:17] nigelb: exactly - corrupting, er I mean influencing young minds toward technology, esp FLOSS skills is awesome [18:17] heh, doctormo would argue against corrupting ;) [18:17] nigelb: yes and think how much that helps their language skills in both languages [18:17] and not to mention communication skills [18:18] teamwork [18:18] I should send this to my cousins :) [18:18] I was asked by a parent who homeschools her soon to be a mentor for this project [18:18] soon = son [18:18] nigelb: It's hardly corrupting, it's more like educating. [18:19] doctormo: I know :) [18:19] nigelb: it's only corrupting when their parents start making signs that say things like "Ubuntu stole my daughter" [18:19] ;-) [18:20] Pendulum: hrm, how about the other way around? ;p [18:20] we already have that :D [18:20] My daughter stole Ubuntu? that's a sign worth having. [18:20] doctormo++ [18:20] nigelb: why do you think I thought of it? ;-) [18:20] Pendulum: hahaha [18:21] actually that reminds me [18:22] akgraner: have you seen http://thejournal.com/articles/2010/10/20/google-code-in-calls-on-k-12-students-to-become-open-source-developers.aspx [18:22] hrm, is Becca going to make it to UDS? [18:22] oh, right! [18:22] I wonder if it's something Becca would be interested in since she's trying to start the Linux club at her school [18:23] nigelb: last I heard, she'll be around for at least one night [18:23] Pendulum: ah [18:23] who's this stranger :p http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs665.snc4/60516_468077441659_664586659_6643967_8075625_n.jpg [18:24] haha [18:25] nigelb: i liked your facebook post 'What Oman Can Teach Us' [18:25] duanedesign: whoa, that was a really ld link that you dug up .... just typing that [18:26] :) [18:26] duanedesign: I love the place. I lived there and saw it change over a course of 10 years. [18:27] The sultan is the most nicest ruler. [18:27] When there was a dispute with a neighboring country, He just drew one straight line for the border and settled it [18:27] anything left is yours, right is mine. [18:27] nigelb: nice. [18:28] nigelb: much better then the hawkish tendencies of U.S. [18:28] heh [18:29]