[03:09] <KombuchaKip> If someone can confirm, we're having a meeting tomorrow. Among the agenda, my application for membership. I am expected to be here when the meeting commences at 1700 PST (21 of Oct).
[13:00] <godbyk> Hey, thorwil. Do you know if we're meeting this week?
[13:01] <thorwil> godbyk: theoretically it happens every week. practically i never know in advance ;)
[13:01] <godbyk> thorwil: Yeah, that's how it goes here, too.
[13:02] <thorwil> godbyk: since uds is at the door, i wonder if mpt said something ... he's not online
[13:02] <godbyk> thorwil: I'm not sure. I was under the impression last week that we'd have a regular meeting today.
[13:02] <thorwil> hi JanC
[13:03] <godbyk> (Seeing as how I was assigned homework and all.)
[13:03] <thorwil> vish
[13:05] <aday> hi all...
[13:06] <godbyk> Hey, aday
[13:06] <aday> anything on the agenda?
[13:08] <thorwil> so iva-not-highlighting-vanka said:  "we are in Orlando. I think he thinks the meeting is at 9am our time which is in an hour", referring to mpt
[13:08] <godbyk> aday: Good question. I just emailed the ayatana-ux list with the usability testing script introduction thing I was tasked with writing.
[13:08] <godbyk> thorwil: aha. well, he's off by an hour. :-)
[13:09] <thorwil> have you guys seen http://thorwil.wordpress.com/2010/10/18/design-center/ ?
[13:09] <aday> godbyk: ah cool - i'll look at that. where is it going to live when it's done?
[13:09] <thorwil> doctormo took matters in his hands
[13:09] <godbyk> aday: Good question.
[13:10] <thorwil> https://code.launchpad.net/~doctormo/erato/trunk
[13:10] <thorwil> https://launchpad.net/erato
[13:10] <thorwil> hi andreasn
[13:11] <aday> godbyk: i'd like to be able to at least link to it from the gnome usability pages
[13:11] <godbyk> thorwil: Do you distinguish between artwork and, say, UI mockups?
[13:12] <thorwil> andreasn: i'd prioritize eating, as mpt is not there (perhaps off by 1 hour in orlando)
[13:12] <godbyk> aday: There's a copy in my public dropbox you can link to if you like: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5067756/usability-testing-script.pdf
[13:12] <andreasn> so meet back in one hour?
[13:12] <thorwil> godbyk: yes and no. it's all design assets
[13:13] <aday> andreasn: can do
[13:13] <andreasn> cool
[13:13] <andreasn> later!
[13:14] <godbyk> andreasn: see ya
[13:14] <godbyk> thorwil: I see.
[13:14] <aday> thorwil: why not use/contribute to design hub? seems like they're trying to do the same thing, or am i missing something?
[13:15] <godbyk> brb
[13:15] <thorwil> godbyk: everyone else in the team seems to see the needs of ubuntu-artwork first, but there have been no objections to my proposal to make it neutral
[13:17] <aday> yes, anyway, back in a bit
[13:17] <thorwil> aday: yes to some degree. but mairin's mockups already include details i don't agree on. aside of that, i can't steer the project on that level, now doctormo started development of a minimalistic first implementation and got others in
[13:18] <thorwil> arg
[13:20] <godbyk> heh. don't ya hate that? :)
[13:21] <godbyk> What aspects of Mairin's designs do you disagree with?
[13:23] <thorwil> godbyk: mainly the simple up/down voting
[13:23] <godbyk> Hey, wers-android.
[13:23] <thorwil> lol
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[13:25] <godbyk> thorwil: Do you have another voting scheme in mind?  Would up/down voting that requires comments/constructive criticism/critiques be better?  Or do you not want voting at all?
[13:25] <godbyk> wers?
[13:25] <wers> wassup?
[13:25] <wers> godbyk, hello
[13:25] <godbyk> hey, there you are. :)
[13:25] <wers> hehe
[13:25] <wers> so has the meeting started?
[13:26] <godbyk> wers: yes and no. we think mpt may arrive in half an hour or so, but it's unclear.
[13:26] <wers> ooh ok
[13:26] <godbyk> a couple others were hear, but they're eating now.
[13:26] <thorwil> godbyk: i've been thinking about a "how well does this asset meet the briefing?"
[13:26] <godbyk> so thorwil and I are just shooting the breeze.
[13:26] <wers> lemme have quick dinner :D
[13:26] <godbyk> wers: lol. no problem.
[13:26] <wers> I'm online on my mobile anyway :D
[13:27] <godbyk> thorwil: I like that. Instead of a simple up/down vote, you could have a few parameters with Lickert scales or something.
[13:27] <wers> i'd like to discuss the UX survey we (GNOME.Asia) are going to conduct. we could do persona research there and some other stuff
[13:27] <godbyk> cool
[14:21] <aday> hi all, anything happening?
[14:23] <SergioMeneses> aday, hi
[14:23] <SergioMeneses> what's up?
[14:23] <godbyk> aday: No activity for quite a while.
[14:27] <thorwil> aday: refering to earlier: yes to some degree. but mairin's mockups already include details i don't agree on. aside of that, i can't steer the project on that level, now doctormo started development of a minimalistic first implementation and got others in
[14:27] <thorwil> that was to: "why not use/contribute to design hub? seems like they're trying to do the same thing, or am i missing something?"
[14:29] <aday> thorwil: fair enough. seems like a shame (mainly cos i'd like to see design hub get moving again ;) )
[14:30] <thorwil> aday: it's also that we have 3 people all in favor of django, 2 of them not interested in any other option. designhub is ruby
[14:30] <thorwil> on rails, of course
[14:31] <aday> i figured it might be something like that *sigh*
[14:31] <thorwil> aday: mizmo told me designhub is blocked on design/mockup issues. so a designer could step in , perhaps
[14:32] <aday> thorwil: oh really? a designers tool blocked because of design issues... we're all doomed
[14:33] <thorwil> aday: nah, missing design because of mizmo's lack of time
[14:34] <aday> thorwil: sounds about right
[15:12] <vish> aday ¦ they did try to do it the designhub way.. :) , but django was the main factor and none were familiar with ruby …
[15:12] <vish> aday ¦ so its better to get it done so how right? ;)
[15:12] <vish> s/so/some
[15:16] <aday> vish: sure! there were some pretty clear requirements behind design hub which might not tally with what's being aimed for with this new site
[15:16] <aday> i want my design site!
[15:16] <vish> :)