[15:55] <Sarvatt> hmm, wonder if there is a way to use vga=ask for the first boot after a blob is installed, record the mode picked then use that for later boots
[15:59] <Sarvatt> "We have no plans at this time to add framebuffer console support to the driver. We recommend that you use Xorg if you want to use graphics." yay nvidia
[16:00]  * Sarvatt misses xsplash
[16:00] <tseliot> :/
[16:01] <tseliot> Sarvatt: but it should work if we use the vga16fb module
[16:01] <tseliot> as we have a plugin for that in plymouth
[16:01] <Sarvatt> people just complain about how ugly it is then though, can't win
[16:03] <tseliot> I know but it's better than the text plugin
[16:03] <Sarvatt> vesafb is loading too late for some people in maverick it looks like
[16:05] <Sarvatt> no /dev/fb0 when plymouth is starting so it falls back to text in these logs
[16:05] <tseliot> furthermore vesafb means broken/unreliable suspend & resume
[16:06] <tseliot> ah
[16:13] <Sarvatt> err vesafb didnt even load at all http://launchpadlibrarian.net/56950180/BootDmesg.txt
[16:14] <jcristau> how often do people boot to care about how it looks?
[16:26] <Sarvatt> thats how I feel about it but it's kind of ridiculous how many complaints there are about it. boots are so fast now i think it would look nice just being all black even
[16:32] <tseliot> yes, and even with radeon I see the bootsplash for about 2-4 seconds
[16:41] <bjsnider> boots would be faster without the arbitrary 10 second timeout in ubuntu's grub
[16:41] <tjaalton> only if you have $otheros installed
[16:42] <bjsnider> just a black screen for 30 seconds would leave users asking what is going on
[16:42] <tjaalton> it doesn't show the menu if ubuntu is all you have
[16:43] <bjsnider> but it does have the 10 second timeout
[16:43] <tjaalton> the grub timeout is ~3s iirc
[16:45] <tjaalton> uh, seems it's back to ten with grub2
[16:45] <bjsnider> and why 10?
[16:47] <tjaalton> maybe upstream default
[16:47] <bjsnider> very conservative though