[00:22] <ubuXubu> what is the code for no panels?
[00:22] <ubuXubu> and how do i open terminal when there is no gd panels?
[00:45] <moetunes> alt +F2  to run the command and
[00:45] <moetunes> !panels
[01:23] <ubuXubu> anyone know how to repair a blown out mbr
[01:41] <MaximumResults> Hello,   I'm back with a video issue.
[01:42] <LoboDeGubbia> I cant install xubuntu in my pIII 128 ram
[01:42] <LoboDeGubbia> its a xl2000 mainboard dunno
[01:42] <MaximumResults> I'm running xubuntu 10.10 (Maverick Meerkat) on a Dell Inspiron 1150 (circa 2005, Pentium 4, 512MB RAM for now),
[01:43] <MaximumResults> 128M of RAM is a little small, even for xubuntu.  Which version are you using Lobo?
[01:43] <LoboDeGubbia> I ve tryed to install in a capable Pc and take the disk to the pIII
[01:43] <LoboDeGubbia> but no work
[01:43] <LoboDeGubbia> 10
[01:43] <MaximumResults> Lobo, 10.10?  Or 10.04?
[01:43] <LoboDeGubbia> 10 10
[01:43] <moetunes> with that little ram you would need the alternate install cd
[01:43] <LoboDeGubbia> yep
[01:43] <LoboDeGubbia> Ive installed slitaz
[01:44] <LoboDeGubbia> then no work too
[01:44] <MaximumResults> So you used the alternate install CD?
[01:44] <LoboDeGubbia> nope
[01:44] <LoboDeGubbia> its a heavy
[01:44] <MaximumResults> Are you trying to use this as a workstation?  With the GUI?  Or just a server?
[01:44] <LoboDeGubbia> workstation
[01:44] <LoboDeGubbia> with slitaz work but was a heavy roundtrip
[01:45] <LoboDeGubbia> itsa debian distro too
[01:45] <MaximumResults> Lobo, what are the symptoms?  What happens when you boot up?
[01:47] <LoboDeGubbia> no boot
[01:47] <LoboDeGubbia> no recognizes CD
[01:47] <LoboDeGubbia> after menu install etc etc
[01:47] <LoboDeGubbia> theres alot of info like dmesg ...
[01:48] <MaximumResults> OK.  YOu are booting the CD on this machine?
[01:48] <LoboDeGubbia> yep
[01:48] <MaximumResults> This is a desktop?  Or a laptop?
[01:48] <LoboDeGubbia> its stupid I know
[01:48] <LoboDeGubbia> desktop
[01:48] <LoboDeGubbia> alternate ...
[01:48] <LoboDeGubbia> I need mut its a long
[01:48] <MaximumResults> Did you try with noacpi and noapic?
[01:48] <LoboDeGubbia> long wait
[01:48] <LoboDeGubbia> yep
[01:49] <LoboDeGubbia> noacpi ?
[01:49] <LoboDeGubbia> Ive used that option with puppy linux but no with xubuntu
[01:49] <MaximumResults> acpi, it's the power management stuff, mostly for laptops.   Some older desktops have faulty hardware that doesn't work with it.
[01:50] <MaximumResults> There's an option no the boot screens.  Press F6 I think, you can specify noacpi and noapic
[01:50] <LoboDeGubbia> yep
[01:51] <LoboDeGubbia> I had to install slitaz
[01:51] <MaximumResults> You can also take out any "quiet" options and maybe add "debug" so that you get a lot of text on the screen.  Usually, if the thing hangs up, the text on the screen gives some clue as to what is failing.
[01:51] <LoboDeGubbia> minidistro
[01:51] <MaximumResults> You probably need to to the noacpi and maybe noapic as well for xubuntu to install.
[01:51] <LoboDeGubbia> al last part keyboard ligths blinkins and a message says kernel panic !
[01:52] <LoboDeGubbia> and stop isntalation
[01:52] <MaximumResults> Kernel panic in what module or program?   Any information from the panic message helps.
[01:52] <LoboDeGubbia> hmmm
[01:52] <LoboDeGubbia> cant remember ...
[01:53] <LoboDeGubbia> I have limited access to internet, thats the reason why I dont wanna to download xubuntu again
[01:53] <LoboDeGubbia> hehehehe
[01:53] <LoboDeGubbia> I try a minidistro 50 mb
[01:53] <LoboDeGubbia> xubuntu its about 650 Mb
[01:53] <MaximumResults> that info from the kernel panic would be very handy to have to diagnose.
[01:54] <MaximumResults> Yeah, xubuntu is a full CD
[01:54] <LoboDeGubbia> Ive installed slitaz....
[01:54] <MaximumResults> If the media passes testing, you shouldn't need to download again.
[01:54] <LoboDeGubbia> few memory I think
[01:54] <LoboDeGubbia> alternative cd
[01:54] <LoboDeGubbia> distros for old pc claims runing in 64 mbs
[01:55] <LoboDeGubbia> but its not true
[01:55] <LoboDeGubbia> In my pIII I only run know emesene, firefox, xirc pidging
[01:55] <LoboDeGubbia> and no more
[01:55] <LoboDeGubbia> cant install openoffice
[01:56] <MaximumResults> Yeah, you need to stick with the lightweight apps.
[01:56] <LoboDeGubbia> hmm
[01:56] <MaximumResults> You should be able to use gnumeric and abiword on a low memory system
[01:56] <LoboDeGubbia> yep
[01:56] <MaximumResults> OpenOffice is pretty heavy.
[01:57] <LoboDeGubbia> andd apps for itnernet
[01:57] <LoboDeGubbia> well ...
[01:57] <MaximumResults> Firefox, thunderbird should run OK as well, yes.
[01:57] <MaximumResults> Or Seamonkey for both browser and mail.
[01:57] <bradford> i need some help getting my ntfs partition to automatically mount in xubuntu
[01:57] <LoboDeGubbia> not all blogs says its true hehhehe new life for old pc
[01:57] <LoboDeGubbia> its automatic in all distros
[01:58] <MaximumResults> lobo, try the noacpi option and see if that fixes the problem.
[01:58] <LoboDeGubbia> mount
[01:58] <LoboDeGubbia> yepo tnx
[01:58] <MaximumResults> Also check the messages on the kernel panic.
[01:58] <bradford> i had no problems with ubuntu, but i dont see it in xubuntu
[01:59] <LoboDeGubbia> yep
[01:59] <LoboDeGubbia> I dont want reinstall w 98
[01:59] <MaximumResults> bradford, did you install the ntfs-utils package?
[01:59] <LoboDeGubbia> I have redhat 9.2 but its old kernel ?
[02:00] <bradford> not yet, im doing an upgrade right now from 10.04 to  10.10
[02:00] <bradford> im guessing xubuntu doesnt come with those files pre-installed?
[02:00] <MaximumResults> It may or may not automagically install those.
[02:01] <MaximumResults> If it sees the NTFS partitions, it usually does include them at install time.
[02:01] <MaximumResults> what you need is ntfsprogs and ntfs-3g
[02:01] <MaximumResults> and fuse
[02:01] <bradford> ok, ill check it out once the upgrade has finished. thnx. i love using xubuntu, ive just never dual booted. this is on my girlfriends laptop
[02:02] <MaximumResults> Been there and done that on the dual boot.
[02:02] <bradford> if it was mine, there would be no dual boot ;c)
[02:02] <MaximumResults> if you have the RAM (1GB or more), virtualbox is great.  You can run Windoze in a vb.
[02:02] <bradford> yea, ill have to check it out, ive messed with vb here and there but never really gotten into it much
[02:03] <earthling_> Is there a way to have the "Match case" unchecked by default, in the Search-Find option of Mousepad?
[02:03] <moetunes> earthling_:  I couldn't find a way to do that so I installed leafpad...
[02:03] <earthling_> I haven't tried leafpad
[02:04] <moetunes> has it unchecked by default
[02:04] <earthling_> ok, good, will look
[02:04] <moetunes> !info leafpad
[02:05] <MaximumResults> Does anyone know why xV doesn't seem to be working on my Dell Inspiron 1150?
[02:06] <MaximumResults> Parole (the movie player on 10.10) doesn't play, reports Could not initialize xV output.
[02:06] <LoboDeGubbia> xV ?
[02:06] <LoboDeGubbia> xServer ?
[02:07] <MaximumResults> and when I do "xvinfo" from a terminal prompt, I see this: X-Video Extension version 2.2
[02:07] <MaximumResults> screen #0
[02:07] <MaximumResults>  no adaptors present
[02:07] <moetunes> MaximumResults:  the X log should have something about that
[02:07] <MaximumResults> xV,   I think it's the way that video players get access to the hardware through/around the X server.
[02:07] <LoboDeGubbia> chek dmesg
[02:07] <MaximumResults> Where is the X log?
[02:07] <LoboDeGubbia> in /var/log
[02:07] <LoboDeGubbia> X
[02:08] <moetunes> grep xv /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:08] <LoboDeGubbia> try mc to navigate
[02:08] <LoboDeGubbia> or dmesg | grep Xv
[02:09] <earthling_> moetunes, I like leafpad, thanks
[02:09] <moetunes> np :]
[02:09] <MaximumResults> $ grep -i xv /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:09] <MaximumResults> [ 15017.742] (II) Loading extension XVideo
[02:09] <MaximumResults> [ 15017.742] (II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation
[02:10] <MaximumResults> Googling around, I saw something about adding Option      "VideoOverlay" "on" in Xorg.conf.
[02:13] <MaximumResults> but I don't seem to have a xorg.conf file anywhere on this system.
[02:16] <moetunes> you can make one with just what you need in it - or the current way is to use /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d
[02:17] <MaximumResults> I don't have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d directory either.
[02:18] <MaximumResults> $ ls -ld /etc/X11/
[02:18] <MaximumResults> drwxr-xr-x 10 root root 4096 2010-10-08 03:46 /etc/X11/
[02:18] <MaximumResults> smr@eric-Inspiron-1150:~$ ls -ld /etc/X11/*
[02:18] <MaximumResults> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root  4096 2010-10-08 03:45 /etc/X11/app-defaults
[02:18] <MaximumResults> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root  4096 2010-10-08 03:45 /etc/X11/cursors
[02:18] <MaximumResults> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root    14 2010-10-08 03:46 /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[02:18] <MaximumResults> drwxr-xr-x 6 root root  4096 2010-10-08 03:40 /etc/X11/fonts
[02:18] <MaximumResults> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 17394 2010-05-27 21:59 /etc/X11/rgb.txt
[02:18] <MaximumResults> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root    13 2010-10-19 08:21 /etc/X11/X -> /usr/bin/Xorg
[02:18] <MaximumResults> drwxr-xr-x 3 root root  4096 2010-10-08 03:45 /etc/X11/xinit
[02:18] <MaximumResults> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root  4096 2010-04-15 08:12 /etc/X11/xkb
[02:18] <moetunes> !paste | MaximumResults
[02:18] <MaximumResults> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root   709 2010-08-09 06:20 /etc/X11/Xreset
[02:18] <MaximumResults> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root  4096 2010-10-08 03:32 /etc/X11/Xreset.d
[02:18] <MaximumResults> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root  4096 2010-10-08 03:32 /etc/X11/Xresources
[02:18] <MaximumResults> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  3730 2010-08-09 06:30 /etc/X11/Xsession
[02:18] <MaximumResults> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root  4096 2010-10-19 09:08 /etc/X11/Xsession.d
[02:18] <MaximumResults> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root   265 2010-05-27 21:59 /etc/X11/Xsession.options
[02:18] <MaximumResults> -rw------- 1 root root   601 2010-10-08 03:32 /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config
[02:18] <moetunes> !lag
[02:19] <moetunes> !paste | MaximumResults
[02:19] <MaximumResults> OK.   Sorry about that.
[02:19] <MaximumResults> I'll check out paste.ubuntu.com.
[02:20] <moetunes> which xubuntu do you use?
[02:20] <MaximumResults> xubuntu 10.10   the latest,
[02:21] <MaximumResults> just installed yesterday.
[02:21] <MaximumResults> Parole movie player has never worked (yet).
[02:22] <moetunes> that X dir doesn't look right to me
[02:22] <MaximumResults> Yeah, it looks different from older versions to me, too.
[02:23] <moetunes> I'm using an Archlinux box atm so I can't compare - maybe someone else can check ?
[02:24] <MaximumResults> Is there a handy configuration utility for X?
[02:25] <moetunes> from a tty with X stopped do    sudo X -configure
[02:26] <MaximumResults> OK.   I'll see what I can do in that.  Maybe find a place to add the Option      "VideoOverlay" "on"  in the device section
[02:26] <MaximumResults> I'll try that and come back and report.
[03:09] <MaximumResults> Back again.  Still having video issues.
[04:01] <MaximumResults> Still having video issues.  Here's the info.
[04:02] <MaximumResults> this is on xubuntu 10.10 Maverick Meerkat.
[04:02] <MaximumResults> Just installed yesterday.
[04:02] <MaximumResults> hardware is a Dell Inspiron 1150 laptop.
[04:02] <MaximumResults> Video hardware:
[04:03] <MaximumResults> $ lspci|grep -i vga
[04:03] <MaximumResults> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02)
[04:03] <MaximumResults> It won't play videos/movies in Parole.
[04:03] <MaximumResults> I get "Could not initialise Xv Output"
[04:04] <MaximumResults> and xvinfo shows  this:
[04:04] <MaximumResults> $ xvinfo
[04:04] <MaximumResults> X-Video Extension version 2.2
[04:04] <MaximumResults> screen #0
[04:04] <MaximumResults>  no adaptors present
[04:05] <MaximumResults> It will play videos with poor performance and high CPU usage using Totem movie player.
[04:12] <MaximumResults> it looks like my X11 is using the vesa driver, not the intel driver.
[04:23] <MaximumResults> any ideas?
[04:28] <lukinfore> say, force it to use intel driver in config
[04:29] <lukinfore> but dunno, maybe they already move all to hal
[04:33] <MaximumResults> I found this about configuring Jaunty (9.04) for intel video hardware   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130582
[04:34] <MaximumResults> I don't seem to have a xorg.conf file.  I do have a conf directory,
[04:34] <MaximumResults> from my Xorg.0.log,
[04:35] <MaximumResults> [    24.411] (==) Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d"
[04:37] <MaximumResults> I didn't realize how late it is.  I think I'm going to sleep on this and try to do something tomorrow.
[04:38] <lukinfore> olo
[04:38] <lukinfore> xorg.conf.d
[04:38] <lukinfore> sounds pretty nice
[04:39] <Sterist> can anyone explain roughly what "super seeding mode" does in qBitTorrent?
[04:53] <lukinfore> afaik (have never heard about ur client though) on ssm you can't upload one piece two times. to be sure, when 4G upload on 4G torrent reached, that every piece is present somewhere
[08:34] <jimisrvrox> hey guys
[08:50] <jimisrvrox> hey ablomen
[13:11] <gnomefreak> how do i open xfce's menu editor? the enrty named "Main Menu" seems to be strictly for gnome?
[13:34] <bazhang> gnomefreak, maybe charlietca or one of the regulars would know>, I'm on Gnome at the moment
[13:34] <gnomefreak> bazhang: thanks
[13:35] <gnomefreak> i going and custopmizing all of the DE xfce flux open kde e16 i think that is it
[13:35] <bazhang> yep :)
[13:36] <gnomefreak> maybe e17 is fixed
[13:36] <bazhang> maybe the universe has stopped expanding
[13:36] <gnomefreak> yay in natty itis :)
[13:37] <gnomefreak> so should be in maverick too now to drop e16
[14:05] <gnomefreak> ok next how do i add icons to upper panel without having to set up launcher in add to panel?
[14:06] <gnomefreak> for example i had to use properties to set up my irssi icon(normally) is there a different way like dragging and dropping or right click?
[14:07] <Sysi> not in xfce
[14:08] <gnomefreak> ok so i have to set it up like i did with irssi. thanks, asking in #xfce about the menu editor
[14:09] <Sysi> thete isn't menu editor in xfce, but xfce menu is freedesktop-standard compatible
[14:10] <gnomefreak> Sysi: there has to be a way doesnt there. the menu is wayyyy too long
[14:11] <gnomefreak> there used to be a way atleast but that was some years back
[14:11] <Sysi> not IMO.. i still use it seldom
[14:11] <gnomefreak> Sysi: you use xfce seldom?
[14:12] <Sysi> menu
[14:12] <gnomefreak> oh
[16:20] <j0rd_> is it possible to export specific folders in my home folder using NFS in xubuntu 10.10..? All i have found are some sketchy tutorials for the CLI. Whilst I can use CLI i have no expirience setting up NFS shares using it
[16:20] <charlie-tca> !nfs
[16:21] <j0rd_> I take it there is no GUI for doing this.?
[16:21] <j0rd_> bots :/
[16:21] <charlie-tca> None that I know of. NFS is advanced user stuff, same as CLI to modify files
[16:22] <j0rd_> charlie, thaks. I remember i think it was 9.04 had a gui for it but it may have been one i installed from a random ppa
[16:23] <charlie-tca> If it did, I don't remember it. I used NFS in 6.06 through 9.10, when I changed to ssh-fuse
[16:23] <j0rd_> proly something i found in a ppa
[16:25] <j0rd_> so say i wanted to export a dir named "public" in my home directory. would the line "# mkdir -p /export/users/public" be right.?
[16:26] <j0rd_> duh
[16:26] <Sysi> i also use ssh for remote transmissions, so easy
[16:26] <charlie-tca> I don't know. Much has changed in NFS since I last used it
[16:27] <Sysi> i only know RTM
[16:27] <j0rd_> i already have nfs served out on my freenas server. want to try and stick to one protocol. charlie, no worrys, just found a good 10.04 tut, should work on 10.10 i hope
[16:28] <Sysi> just mounting with nfs should be easy
[16:28] <Sysi> can gigolo do that?
[16:28] <charlie-tca> I don't know, Sysi
[16:28] <Sysi> seems i can't check
[16:28] <charlie-tca> It should be able to, but I never tried it
[16:29] <Sysi> best/easiest way to configure samba?
[16:29] <charlie-tca> yup
[16:29] <Sysi> for fileserver
[16:29] <ablomen> Sysi, read the documentation in the default smb.conf, if you read it once or twice it should be pretty easy
[16:30] <ablomen> (and you can easily skip parts you don't need)
[16:30] <Sysi> do i want just write config or should i install X11 and use gui tool
[16:30] <Sysi> i'll check
[16:30] <j0rd_> it can but i want to export
[16:30] <j0rd_> over nfs
[17:32] <charlie-tca> oh
[17:33] <MichealH> See?
[17:33] <MichealH> My useful eyes!
[17:33] <charlie-tca> What difference does it make if those few words are there?
[17:33] <MichealH> Well isnt there a topic char limit?
[17:34]  * charlie-tca shrugs. it all fit
[17:35] <ikonia> if there was it would cut it off
[17:35] <ikonia> as it didn't cut it off, it's well within the limit
[17:35] <MichealH> Also, it wasnt grammatically correct in irssi's and xchat.
[17:35] <ikonia> MichealH: your eyes have just created a problem out of nothing,
[17:35] <ikonia> MichealH: it was
[17:35] <ikonia> the client has nothing to do with grammar
[17:36] <knome> boys! stop it
[17:36] <knome> it's fixed now and everybody should be happy
[18:00] <StAlphonzo> how does xfce panel applets communicate with its surroundings? Does it use dbus, or something else, like gnome panel applets do?
[18:05] <charlie-tca> That might be better asked of the developers in #xubuntu-devel
[18:06] <knome> charlie-tca, #xfce-dev you mean?
[18:06] <charlie-tca> no, #xubuntu-devel could probably answer the question.
[18:07] <charlie-tca> mr_pouit would know, whether he answers in #xubuntu-devel or #xfce
[18:08] <charlie-tca> Xubuntu does still have its own devel channel?
[18:10] <knome> charlie-tca, xubuntu? you should know? :P
[18:29] <slow-motion> hi
[18:30] <mark76> Hey
[20:37] <MaximumResults> Hi there,  I'm still having video issues.  Still can't play videos with Parole, still have poor performance with Totem movie player.
[20:37] <MaximumResults> Any X  and Xv  (XVideo, overlay) experts around?
[20:37] <Sysi> what graphics card, what type of video
[20:37] <MaximumResults> My configuration:  Dell Inspiron 1150 laptop, Intel chipset for video.
[20:38] <MaximumResults> $ lspci | grep -i "vga"
[20:38] <MaximumResults> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02)
[20:38] <MaximumResults> Here's one thing I notice, when I do "xvinfo", I get this:
[20:38] <Sysi> you should try vlc/mplayer
[20:38] <MaximumResults> X-Video Extension version 2.2
[20:38] <MaximumResults> screen #0
[20:38] <MaximumResults>  no adaptors present
[20:39] <MaximumResults> I tried mplayer as well.  Again, video's play, but with a lot of dropped frames (many seconds between frames at times), and high cpu utilization.
[20:39] <Sysi> fullscreen/smaller?
[20:40] <MaximumResults> either way.   Worse full screen,
[20:40] <Sysi> i had that with wrong output
[20:40] <MaximumResults> but not good in a small window, either.
[20:40] <Sysi> xv or x11 outputs work for me in mplayer
[20:40] <MaximumResults> Parole reports "Could not initialise XV output"
[20:41] <MaximumResults> Xv isn't working at all.
[20:41] <Sysi> totem couldn't play h264 on netbook
[20:41] <MaximumResults> I suspect if I get that working my performance issues will be resolved.
[20:41] <MaximumResults> So I think I want to get Xv configured to work if I can.
[20:42] <Sysi> high resolution video?
[20:42] <Sysi> that isn't very powerful card anyway
[20:42] <MaximumResults> Doesn't seem to matter.
[20:42] <MaximumResults> Yeah, I know.  This is an older machine.
[20:43] <MaximumResults> Only 384M of RAM right now (ordered 1GB upgrade this morning.  that might help when it gets here).
[20:43] <Sysi> what 'top' says when you tru watching video?
[20:44] <MaximumResults> when I use totem, I see totem with high cpu, 65% or more,
[20:45] <MaximumResults> and Xorg with ~15%
[20:45] <Sysi> i could recommend newer kernel from ppa but it seemed to stop working after release of 10.10
[20:46] <MaximumResults> Starts out kind of OK.   A little jerky, but watchable.  After a minute or two, it gets much worse,  frames only coming through every several seconds.
[20:47] <MaximumResults> Here's my /var/log/Xorg.0.log  http://paste.ubuntu.com/517644/
[20:47] <MaximumResults> It looks like it isn't using the Intel driver, but the vesa driver instead.
[20:48] <MaximumResults> I'm on 10.10,
[20:48] <MaximumResults> kernel version is 2.6.35-22-generic
[20:50] <MaximumResults> At http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/html_single/DVD-Playback-HOWTO/#overlaytrouble  I read "Use an appropriate driver for your video card. Some Linux distributions default to using the generic XFree86 VESA driver instead of the specific driver for your video card. You need to use the hardware-specific driver for your card in order to get hardware overlay support."
[20:52] <MaximumResults> I have the xserver-xorg-video-intel package installed.
[20:52] <MaximumResults> How do I tell Xorg to use the intel driver instead of the vesa driver?
[20:55] <Sysi> xorg.conf
[20:57] <MaximumResults> there isn't a xorg.conf file.  If you check the log   http://paste.ubuntu.com/517644/  I have a "config directory"  set to /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d
[20:57] <MaximumResults> There's nothing in that directory about video.  Just some files related to input devices if I'm reading them right.
[20:59] <MaximumResults> should I create a file in there to specify the intel driver?
[21:02] <lukinfore> why not to try
[21:03] <buttle> hi
[21:04] <buttle> I've just installed 10.10, I come from gnome, and was wondering how to use bluethooth (tranfer photos from a camera).
[21:05] <MaximumResults> buttle, did the installer automagically install any bluetooth packages?
[21:05] <buttle> don't think so. haven't checked. wait
[21:06] <Sysi> by default iirc not, install bluez
[21:07] <MaximumResults> Run the "Ubuntu Software Center" and type "bluetooth" in the search box.
[21:07] <buttle> /var/cache/apt/archives$ ls |grep blue retuens nothing
[21:07] <Sysi> *blueman
[21:07] <MaximumResults> It will show "BlueTooth" and "BlueTooth Manger"
[21:08] <MaximumResults> I think the first is bluez, and the second actually says it's blueman.
[21:08] <Sysi> i used blueman
[21:08] <MaximumResults> I'm with Sysi on this,  blueman seems to work a little better.
[21:08] <MaximumResults> I've used both, but I prefer blueman.
[21:09] <buttle> installing...
[21:09] <MaximumResults> Back to my intel driver thing.
[21:10] <MaximumResults> So, do I create a file in the /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d directory, maybe call it 00-intel.conf
[21:11] <StAlphonzo> would there be any reason why I couldn't run xfce panel on metacity?
[21:11] <Sysi> StAlphonzo: i don't think so
[21:12] <Sysi> (why on earth)
[21:12] <StAlphonzo> there are some things I love about default Ubuntu, but the panels in gnome are killing me.
[21:12] <StAlphonzo> Sysi, I run terminalservers. The panels in gnome keeps throwing applets around, which is a big pain. It happens... About 10-15 times each day.
[21:13] <StAlphonzo> also, the new animations in gnome-panel kills the performance of my terminalservers. All in all, I really prefer xfce panel with xfapplet for those gnome panel applets I can't live without.
[21:14] <MaximumResults> What will I need to put in the conf file for the intel video?
[21:15] <MaximumResults> is it enough to have 'Section "Device"' and 'Driver "intel"' and 'endSection'
[21:15] <MaximumResults> Or do I need more than that?
[21:17] <lukinfore> no i think
[21:17] <lukinfore> check xorg.conf format
[21:17] <lukinfore> there is screen abstraction
[21:18] <MaximumResults> So I'll need a 'Section "Screen"' as well?
[21:18] <lukinfore> fnd section monitor too
[21:18] <lukinfore> just guessing
[21:19] <MaximumResults> I found this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1524658  with a xorg.conf file shown in it.
[21:19] <MaximumResults> Not sure how this works with the latest xorg and the xorg.conf.d directory structure.
[21:19] <MaximumResults> Isn't the point of that to separate different stuff into different files.
[21:20] <MaximumResults> make a file for the device, a file for the monitor?
[21:20] <MaximumResults> WB buttle,
[21:20] <lukinfore> point is to make different packages works independently
[21:20] <buttle> thanks guys. works fine :)
[21:21] <lukinfore> agin, just guessing
[21:21] <MaximumResults> OK.
[21:21] <MaximumResults> I think I'll try it with just the "Device"  section first.
[21:21] <MaximumResults> Do I need the 'VendorName'  and 'BoardName' entries?
[21:22] <MaximumResults> Should I copy that from $ lspci|grep -i vga
[21:22] <MaximumResults> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02)
[21:22] <MaximumResults> Or will just a "Driver" line work.
[21:23] <MaximumResults> Is there a quick way in xubuntu 10.10 to restart X?
[21:24] <MaximumResults> like does, "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" work?
[21:25] <lukinfore> killall Xorg should
[21:25] <MaximumResults> I'll give this a try and report back.   I'm going to close everything for a few minutes so I don't crash too much stuff if it doesn't work.
[21:25] <lukinfore> but
[21:25] <MaximumResults> OK, I'm listening
[21:25] <lukinfore> device section in xorg.conf
[21:25] <lukinfore> meaningless wout screen secton
[21:27] <MaximumResults> OK.
[21:27] <MaximumResults> So I need a screen section? Or a monitor section? The two seem separate and different.
[21:28] <lukinfore> why not you read manual for xorg.conf?
[21:28] <MaximumResults> reading 'man xorg.conf',  it seems that
[21:29] <lukinfore> so
[21:29] <MaximumResults> only Identifier and Driver are required in the device section.
[21:29] <MaximumResults> Other entries are optional and behaviour is driver dependent.
[21:29] <lukinfore> screen is abstraction layer for device and monitor both
[21:30] <MaximumResults> OK.  I might try letting that default out first.
[21:31] <MaximumResults> I have a minimal device section.  I'm about to try it and see what happened.
[21:31] <MaximumResults> killall Xorg should restart everything.
[21:31] <MaximumResults> ?
[21:31] <MaximumResults> BRB  I hope
[21:32] <buttle> ciao
[21:38] <MaximumResults> Back,  sort of.
[21:38] <MaximumResults> not the most usable system right now.
[21:38] <MaximumResults> I have no mouse cursor at all.
[21:39] <MaximumResults> when I open a terminal window (using keyboard shortcut), xvinfo does show some video info.
[21:39] <MaximumResults> So that part seems to be fixed.
[21:39] <MaximumResults> running parole or totem does not work.
[21:39] <MaximumResults> They both crash out
[21:41] <MaximumResults> getting BadAlloc errors from the video players.
[21:43] <MaximumResults> new Xorg.0.log at http://paste.ubuntu.com/517680/
[21:46] <MaximumResults> Does anyone see anything that explains why mouse has no cursor/pointer?
[21:47] <MaximumResults> the only thing I see is (EE) intel(0): Detected a hung GPU, disabling acceleration.
[21:51] <MaximumResults> restarting changing back to the vesa driver, BRB
[21:58] <MaximumResults> Back again.
[21:58] <MaximumResults> back on the vesa driver.   no xvinfo, but I have a mouse cursor again.
[22:03] <mark76> Yay
[22:06] <MaximumResults> Thanks, Mark.
[22:07] <MaximumResults> Not sure what I need to do to get this working.
[22:07] <MaximumResults> with intel driver, xvinfo showed actual video info.
[22:07] <MaximumResults> video players crashed out with BadAlloc errors
[22:08] <MaximumResults> There was an error message in xorg.0.log about a hung GPU.
[22:08] <MaximumResults> Seems the intel driver may be a little buggy for this.
[22:09] <MaximumResults> I'm going to give up for the day.   Try again tomorrow maybe when I have more time.
[22:10] <MaximumResults> I suspect that the "hung GPU" was behind the BadAlloc errors.   Something in the driver crashed badly.  No mouse cursors, and video used by totem and parole not in stable status after the problem.
[22:11] <MaximumResults> Bye everyone
[23:25] <suffertheles> anyone alive in here ?