[00:48] <Sput> markey: it's even moar funny when you remember that EULAs are illegal in the EU.
[01:36] <sgh> Is it possible to avoid PopupApplet to react on mouseclicks or to at least make it react on MousePress instead ?
[03:45] <CIA-46> [ubuntu] Alessandro Ghersi <alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org * alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org-20101022024544-gb4b4twjibxw1ppq * debian/changelog Fix version in changelog
[03:48] <CIA-46> [ubuntu] Alessandro Ghersi <alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org * alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org-20101022024810-w7ul3c9zn453jjfe * debian/ (changelog control) Build against kde4libs 4.5.2-0ubuntu1
[03:52] <CIA-46> [ubuntu] Alessandro Ghersi <alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org * alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org-20101022025204-6yskrdi8fcsoyhfy * debian/ (changelog control) Build against kdelibs5-dev 4.5.2-0ubuntu1 for libkutils4 transition
[03:53] <CIA-46> [ubuntu] Alessandro Ghersi <alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org * alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org-20101022025330-kvl0kvh2tacs7msv * debian/ (changelog control) Build against kdelibs5-dev 4.5.2-0ubuntu1 for libkutils4 transition
[03:54] <CIA-46> [ubuntu] Alessandro Ghersi <alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org * alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org-20101022025451-pwq8o39qrl9akxsp * debian/ (changelog control) Build against kdelibs5-dev 4.5.2-0ubuntu1 for libkutils4 transition
[03:56] <CIA-46> [ubuntu] Alessandro Ghersi <alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org * alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org-20101022025636-25266wj099n6eac0 * debian/ (changelog control) Build against kdelibs5-dev 4.5.2-0ubuntu1 for libkutils4 transition
[03:57] <CIA-46> [ubuntu] Alessandro Ghersi <alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org * alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org-20101022025748-3r1zo051vdfa4718 * debian/ (changelog control) Build against kdelibs5-dev 4.5.2-0ubuntu1 for libkutils4 transition
[03:58] <CIA-46> [ubuntu] Alessandro Ghersi <alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org * alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org-20101022025842-jv4daaxdegh6jukp * debian/ (changelog control) Build against kdelibs5-dev 4.5.2-0ubuntu1 for libkutils4 transition
[04:01] <CIA-46> [ubuntu] Alessandro Ghersi <alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org * alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org-20101022030151-uwvxukfue9ybz75f * debian/ (changelog control) Build against kdelibs5-dev 4.5.2-0ubuntu1 for libkutils4 transition
[04:03] <CIA-46> [ubuntu] Alessandro Ghersi <alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org * alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org-20101022030322-taoxbkmyumc2zjyh * debian/ (changelog control) Build against kdelibs5-dev 4.5.2-0ubuntu1 for libkutils4 transition
[04:04] <CIA-46> [ubuntu] Alessandro Ghersi <alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org * alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org-20101022030444-e6ee8xc903ulnn1z * debian/ (changelog control) Build against kdelibs5-dev 4.5.2-0ubuntu1 for libkutils4 transition
[04:06] <CIA-46> [ubuntu] Alessandro Ghersi <alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org * alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org-20101022030646-mx3hif09ub32fy3c * debian/ (changelog control) Build against kdelibs5-dev 4.5.2-0ubuntu1 for libkutils4 transition
[04:07] <CIA-46> [ubuntu] Alessandro Ghersi <alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org * alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org-20101022030740-pfcy0jktnluwww4s * debian/ (changelog control) Build against kdelibs5-dev 4.5.2-0ubuntu1 for libkutils4 transition
[04:12] <CIA-46> [ubuntu] Alessandro Ghersi <alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org * alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org-20101022031208-kz43pdn127c67mph * debian/ (38 files in 3 dirs) (log message trimmed)
[04:12] <CIA-46> kdebindings (4:4.5.2+svn1188326-0ubuntu1) UNRELEASED; urgency=low * Merge with
[04:12] <CIA-46> Debian git remaining changes: - Add libqscintilla2-dev, libqwt5-qt4-dev and
[04:12] <Lex79> O.o
[04:21] <CIA-46> [ubuntu] Alessandro Ghersi <alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org * alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org-20101022032133-n32xguzyf26o8xn1 * debian/changelog Fix version number
[04:23] <CIA-46> [ubuntu] Alessandro Ghersi <alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org * alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org-20101022032330-z5v53q361z4gxuwe * debian/control Bump kde-sc-dev-latest
[04:39] <CIA-46> [ubuntu] Alessandro Ghersi <alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org * alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org-20101022033940-my5i4u0vw2ndkf9y * debian/ (changelog control) add python-kde4, python-sip, python-qt4 to build-dependencies
[04:45] <CIA-46> [ubuntu] Alessandro Ghersi <alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org * alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org-20101022034503-jbici0v2q1dhrpw2 * debian/changelog Fix version number
[04:46] <CIA-46> [ubuntu] Alessandro Ghersi <alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org * alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org-20101022034643-t13v4b1fqw954m48 * debian/changelog Fix version number
[04:49] <maco> wow
[04:50] <CIA-46> [ubuntu] Alessandro Ghersi <alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org * alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org-20101022035001-b044woimvrt7qfn3 * debian/changelog Fix version number
[04:51] <CIA-46> [ubuntu] Alessandro Ghersi <alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org * alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org-20101022035147-gvf3jmcgg73nl2wq * debian/changelog Fix version number
[04:53] <CIA-46> [ubuntu] Alessandro Ghersi <alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org * alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org-20101022035302-izwm5s6b7mcdsky3 * debian/changelog Fix version number
[04:54] <CIA-46> [ubuntu] Alessandro Ghersi <alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org * alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org-20101022035421-9cfhyg1ixbl6pxaz * debian/changelog Fix version number
[04:55] <ScottK> shadeslayer: I never got a good answer to my question.
[04:55] <valorie> apachelogger: did you finish your Amarok script for UDS streaming?
[04:56]  * valorie is blogging
[04:56] <valorie> taking off tomorrow morning for Orlando
[04:57] <CIA-46> [ubuntu] Alessandro Ghersi <alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org * alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org-20101022035659-9a74lmm4hlg8wy2x * debian/changelog Fix version number
[04:57] <valorie> heh, plasma-desktop totally crashed
[04:57] <valorie> so hard that Dr. Konqi disappeared too
[04:57] <CIA-46> [ubuntu] Alessandro Ghersi <alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org * alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org-20101022035750-yg7enucqi22u4j73 * debian/changelog Fix version number
[04:58] <ScottK> valorie: That's not just plasma-desktop crashing.  That won't take Dr. Konqi with.  Something underneath died.
[04:59] <valorie> IRC and FF didn't crash
[04:59] <valorie> weird, eh?
[04:59] <valorie> about to restart, though
[04:59] <valorie> I need konsole
[05:30] <Darkwing1uck> konsole
[05:30] <Darkwing1uck> :D
[06:51] <apachelogger> valorie: haven't gotten no data yet, need to do poking again
[06:52] <apachelogger> then again I am late for calculus right now
[06:54] <markey> moin apachelogger
[06:55] <apachelogger> o/
[06:55] <jussi> huomenta!
[10:04] <valorie> ScottK: you were right
[10:05] <valorie> whole desktop died
[10:06] <valorie> niters
[10:49] <markey> how to get Java working in Chromium?
[10:49] <markey> it says "Missing Plugin"
[10:49] <markey> I have Sun Java installed
[10:54] <markey> think I found it
[10:57] <markey> yay. works
[10:57] <markey> Minecraft, here we come!
[10:58] <markey> ...or not
[10:58] <markey> black screen :(
[11:16] <markey> I found a HOWTO
[11:17] <markey> http://timashley.me/node/596
[11:17] <markey> Mamarok: ^
[11:21] <markey> I give up for now
[11:21] <markey> this is madness :)
[11:57] <ScottK> markey: No.  It's Java.
[11:58] <ScottK> (the difference is subtle at most though)
[12:00] <jussi> last time I checked you just had to install sun-java6-plugin for java to work in chromium...
[13:40] <Riddell> Quintasan: mind and register for UDS if you want to take part in sessions
[13:59] <BluesKaj> I have a kernel grub problem during updates, dpkg locks my system trying to install a kernel module/linix image that seems non-existent ...any ideas?
[14:02] <Riddell> user problems in #ubuntu or #kubuntu
[14:02] <Riddell> (i.e. I've no idea sorry)
[14:03] <BluesKaj> Riddell, I've asked there a few times in the last few days ...absolutely no response 
[14:04] <Riddell> try e-mail, forums..
[14:18] <CIA-46> [muon] jmthomas * 1188458 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/ (3 files in 3 dirs) Use the ${DEBCONF_KDE_LIB} macro in target_link_libraries rather than the "raw" link target of debconf-kde
[14:35] <Riddell> morning agateau, how is Florida?
[14:36] <agateau> Riddell: sunny and hot!
[14:36] <agateau> Riddell: but they like their air conditioning system a bit too much
[14:39] <Riddell> well they have oil, it needs to be used up
[14:45] <Riddell> agateau: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-general-n-git-for-bzr-users seems popular
[14:46] <agateau> Riddell: yes, I better not disappoint :)
[14:47] <agateau> Riddell: a few people from your team are interested as well
[15:15] <jefferai> shadeslayer: 
[15:15] <jefferai> [10:14:19] <jefferai> the bad news is that my faulty raid card rebooted my machine again overnight
[15:15] <jefferai> [10:14:36] <jefferai> the good news is that I have the replacement and was coming on IRC to tell you guys I was going to do the replacement tomorrow *anyways*
[15:15] <jefferai> so it will go down tomorrow morning EDT
[15:39] <Riddell> Lex79, debfx: shall I start uploading merged packages to natty?
[15:42] <txwikinger> natty? Can we upgrade to natty already? :D
[15:45] <persia> txwikinger, upload, yes, upgrade, with significant risk.
[15:45] <Riddell> you can try
[15:45] <debfx> Riddell: yes, the packages I merged are ready
[15:45] <txwikinger> persia: I have a test vm for such things :D
[16:37] <JontheEchidna> http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?upid=8672 new upload
[17:17] <debfx> JontheEchidna: a watch file for gtk-oxygen: http://paste.debian.net/97660/
[17:23] <ScottK> debfx: Very nice.  That works for kde-apps too.  I didn't know it was possible.
[17:38] <shadeslayer> ScottK: what question? 0_o
[17:39] <shadeslayer> jefferai: thats fine with me, ill probably in a flight when your box goes down :)
[17:39] <ScottK> shadeslayer: [14:46:28] <shadeslayer> ScottK: you made lwn "why it's people think it's good to throw away bugs"
[17:39] <shadeslayer> oh
[17:39] <shadeslayer> ScottK: hahaha :P
[17:40] <shadeslayer> maybe you can discuss that at UDS :P
[17:40] <Riddell> ScottK: kdebase-workspace uploaded, packages will need Newed once compiled
[17:40] <ScottK> OK.
[17:40] <shadeslayer> last call for anything you guys want to get from india :)
[17:41] <ScottK> Maybe we'll be in Orlando by then and you can buy me whisky while I do it.
[17:41] <persia> shadeslayer, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ubuntutheproject-qa-n-triage-revisited is likely the relevant spec
[17:42] <Riddell> ScottK: I doubt they have suitable quality whisky in Orlando that would befit me buying it :)
[17:42] <shadeslayer> persia: ScottK needs that more :)
[17:42] <shadeslayer> ScottK: kdepim announced, but ftp.kde is down for some reason, ill try ktown
[17:42] <Riddell> shadeslayer: could you send us a Commonwealth Games?  I think the Scottish government has too much money and needs to spend some extra
[17:43] <ScottK> persia: Thanks for pointing that one out.
[17:43] <ScottK> Riddell: It's a big town.  We'll find a suitable import.
[17:43] <shadeslayer> Riddell: sure :D
[17:45] <shadeslayer> hmm.. its on ktown :)
[18:01] <Lex79> ScottK: is it possible reject kdebase-workspace? it should be build after kdebindings because kdebindings should be build with the new python-qt4 and new sip
[18:02] <ScottK> Lex79: archive's on auto, so the source is already accepted.
[18:02] <ScottK> It'll just have to be uploaded again.
[18:02] <Lex79> ok
[18:05] <Lex79> oh I can't upload sip4-qt3 :( it's not in the set of kubuntu packages
[18:07] <shadeslayer> Riddell: ScottK are you guys attending that pizza party?
[18:07] <Lex79> JontheEchidna: around
[18:07] <Lex79> ?
[18:07] <JontheEchidna> hi
[18:07] <JontheEchidna> need an upload?
[18:07] <Lex79> JontheEchidna: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/394059/sip4-qt3_4.11.1.orig.tar.gz
[18:08] <Lex79> JontheEchidna: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/394059/sip4-qt3_4.11.1-0ubuntu1.debian.tar.gz
[18:08] <Lex79> thanks :)
[18:08] <ScottK> shadeslayer: I don't know what I'm doing after get off the airplane in Orlando.  Knowing when/where I'm going to socialize would be way past where I ma.
[18:08] <Lex79> oh my. also python-qt4 and qscintilla :(
[18:08] <ScottK> ma/am
[18:09] <ScottK> Lex79 and JontheEchidna: Can we add Python3 support too.
[18:09] <ScottK> (if you didn't)
[18:10]  * JontheEchidna holds off on upload
[18:10] <ScottK> Lex79 and JontheEchidna: Quintasan was looking into it the other day.
[18:11] <Lex79> JontheEchidna: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/394059/python-qt4_4.7.7-0ubuntu1.debian.tar.gz
[18:11] <Lex79> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/394059/python-qt4_4.7.7.orig.tar.gz
[18:11] <Lex79> ScottK: looking what?
[18:11] <Lex79> JontheEchidna: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/394059/qscintilla2_2.4.5-0ubuntu1.debian.tar.gz
[18:11] <ScottK> Lex79: Add Python 3 support to our sip4-qt3 package.
[18:11] <Lex79> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/394059/qscintilla2_2.4.5.orig.tar.gz
[18:12]  * nixternal saw ScottK hax0ring his mac :p
[18:16] <maco> ScottK: http://mdzlog.alcor.net/2010/10/20/ubuntu-and-qt/#comment-4126  <-- can we patch that?  (ignore the bit about him getting failures. he said in the next comment that toggling local_only to false on a system that doesnt have a broken gtk install works)
[18:19] <ScottK> maco: I'd want to know why it's set to true before I had an opinion.
[18:20] <maco> ScottK: would that make it a nokia question?
[18:20] <ScottK> maco: Qt upstream question.  Some of the developers work for Nokia, but it's no more a Nokia question than questions about Ubuntu are Canonical questions.
[18:21] <maco> ok
[18:21] <ScottK> (assuming it's not that way due to a patch from us or Debian)
[18:22] <nixternal> Riddell: re: kubuntu-docs. my plan is to convert it over to cmake if possible. will be a lot of playing around, but i want to get that all fixed and document the packaging/translation process as well. importing the translations back into the package totally sucks. a lot of manual editing of translated docbook templates because for some reason tags get broken a lot
[19:04] <Lex79> ScottK: python 3 default is 3.2 ?
[19:04] <Lex79> or 3.1?
[19:06] <shadeslayer> jussi: can me apachelogger and maco do crew duty on friday? ( your the crew chief right ? )
[19:30]  * Lex79 added python3 support to sip
[19:30]  * shadeslayer pokes his kdepim build to pick up
[19:31] <Lex79> shadeslayer: are you building 4.7 for natty?
[19:31] <shadeslayer> Lex79: 4.4.7 for maverick atm, natty doesnt have 4.5.2 kde4libs -.-
[19:31] <shadeslayer> so im building kdepim 4.4.7 with maverick KDE 4.5.1
[19:31] <Lex79> ehm yes 4.4.7 :P
[19:31] <Lex79> ok
[19:31] <shadeslayer> and its done...
[19:32] <shadeslayer> Lex79: i upload it to updates PPA right?
[19:32] <Lex79> yeah
[19:32]  * Lex79 upgrades to natty
[19:33] <shadeslayer> wha
[19:33] <shadeslayer> Lex79: are you crazy or whut :P
[19:33] <Lex79> I'm pretty sure JontheEchidna follow me :D
[19:34] <JontheEchidna> :)
[19:34] <JontheEchidna> I upgraded to natty the first day the toolchain was available
[19:34] <Lex79> buahaha :P
[19:34] <shadeslayer> ill probably update to first alpha
[19:35] <shadeslayer> Lex79: E: kdepim source: weak-library-dev-dependency kdepim-dev on libkdepim4 (>= ${binary:Version}) << kdepim
[19:35] <Lex79> dunno
[19:36] <shadeslayer> hmm
[19:38] <Lex79> JontheEchidna: in natty the bold is too bold, isn't it?
[19:38] <Lex79> or just my impression?
[19:40] <JontheEchidna> I've not noticed anything
[19:41] <Lex79> uhm maybe you didn't upgrade to the last version of Qt
[19:42] <Lex79> 4.7.0-0ubuntu6
[19:42] <jussi> shadeslayer: I might be... but I havent been told :D
[19:42] <jussi> shadeslayer: what gave you that idea?
[19:42] <shadeslayer> jussi: says so on the wiki page
[19:42] <jussi> where?
[19:42] <jussi> link me
[19:42] <shadeslayer> jussi: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS-N/Crew
[19:42] <jussi> *G*
[19:43] <shadeslayer> oh.. IRC Crew Chief
[19:43] <jussi> ahhyeah, Im irc crew cheif every time im there
[19:44] <jussi> cz<tab> is crew cheif
[19:45] <shadeslayer> jussi: she isnt online i think
[19:45] <jussi> she is online, but possibly not around at this second
[19:46] <shadeslayer> right :)
[19:46] <shadeslayer> i suppose ill mail her
[19:46] <jussi> shadeslayer: yeah, you can usually catch her in #ubuntu-community-chat
[19:47] <shadeslayer> uh.. channel doesnt exsist ... :D
[19:47] <CIA-46> [muon] jmthomas * 1188591 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/libmuon/MuonMainWindow.cpp (log message trimmed)
[19:47] <CIA-46> Save the cache state before loading a package marking files. This is a partial
[19:47] <CIA-46> fix for not being able to undo the loading of a markings file. There's another
[19:48] <CIA-46> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1188592 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/backend.cpp Backend::loadSelections() changes package states, so emit packageChanged() if it has. Fixes clients not being aware that things have changed after this function was called.
[20:02] <CIA-46> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1188596 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/utils/qapt-batch/qaptbatch.cpp Don't say we were successful if there were errors. That looks a bit silly, especially when we have error dialogs to contradict ourselves. CCMAIL:490353@bugs.launchpad.net
[20:16]  * JontheEchidna wonders if they'll ever get around to bug 609247
[20:19] <JontheEchidna> <3 CCMAIL, though
[20:19] <shadeslayer> hmm
[20:20] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: i changed bug 490353 for you
[20:20] <JontheEchidna> I noticed. That was fast
[20:21] <JontheEchidna> was planning to do that after I got back from the *ahem* facilities
[20:26] <shadeslayer> :)
[20:27] <shadeslayer> ScottK:  Riddell: kubuntu-n-coding and kubuntu-n-mobile are clashing 
[20:27] <shadeslayer> ( for the past 2 days i think )
[20:30] <Lex79> JontheEchidna: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/394059/sip4-qt3_4.11.1.orig.tar.gz
[20:30] <Lex79> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/394059/sip4-qt3_4.11.1-0ubuntu1.debian.tar.gz
[20:30] <Lex79> with python 3 support
[20:30] <Lex79> JontheEchidna: also this with python 3 support http://dl.dropbox.com/u/394059/python-qt4_4.7.7-0ubuntu1.debian.tar.gz
[20:31] <Lex79> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/394059/python-qt4_4.7.7.orig.tar.gz
[20:39] <shadeslayer> ->sleep
[20:39] <shadeslayer> cya
[20:39] <Lex79> night shadeslayer
[20:56] <JontheEchidna> Lex79: I'll upload once I get home
[20:56] <JontheEchidna> bbiab
[20:56] <Lex79> ok
[21:30] <CIA-46> [ubuntu] Alessandro Ghersi <alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org * alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org-20101022203043-5arwhc4bd2wn3f22 * debian/ (4 files in 2 dirs) Refresh kubuntu_04_kimpanel_disable_scim.diff, add libxml2-dev to build-deps
[21:47] <CIA-46> [ubuntu] Alessandro Ghersi <alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org * alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org-20101022204722-pv3s2171belpc55s * debian/ (changelog control) Bump python-kde4 build-dep to 4:4.5.2+svn1188326-0ubuntu1
[21:53] <CIA-46> [ubuntu] Alessandro Ghersi <alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org * alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org-20101022205355-dpi4ytbwvm9gkzlx * debian/ (changelog control) Bump python-kde4 build-dep to 4:4.5.2+svn1188326-0ubuntu1
[22:06] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Don't worry.  Make yourself essential for both and one will almost certainly get moved.
[22:54] <debfx> JontheEchidna: do you plan to push gtk2-engines-oxygen to Debian?
[22:54] <JontheEchidna> debfx: no, I can't really maintain a debian box to test things on atm
[23:03] <debfx> okay, i'll try to get it uploaded if I have time
[23:14] <debfx> ScottK: yes, they do a good job of cluttering up the download link (PHPSESSID, etc.) but it's still possible
[23:16] <makl> debfx: What is "gtk2-engines-oxygen" exactly? I uploaded oxygen-molecule for Maverick, if gtk2-engines-oxygen is something better, it might be useful to replace the Oxygen-Molecule with this...
[23:16] <debfx> makl: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=129715
[23:18] <makl> debfx: really cool!
[23:20] <makl> thanks!
[23:21] <debfx> makl: yeah, it looks quite good
[23:23] <makl> debfx: It looks very similar to the Oxygen-Molecule design ( http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=103741 ) The menu borders are a little bit huge...
[23:23] <makl> ...but the glow-effect is really nice!
[23:25] <makl> the oxygen-molecule dev told me, that there's a new project, immitating the oxygen-style better than oxygen-molecule does... Maybe the oxygen-engine is this project