[07:55] <thorwil> doctormo: would it be ok to mention erato on the ubuntu-art mailing list and/or planet ubuntu, or would you prefer to keep it low profile for now?
[08:35] <vish> thorwil ¦  yeah, alteast someone took the time for the logo, still some hope :)
[08:37] <vish> we need mailing list auto-translate!
[08:37] <vish> thorwil ¦ maybe mentioning erato after the UDS would be nice.. just my 2cents
[08:39] <thorwil> vish: i want to at least inform jbaer ... that's what made me wonder why not to hit the list with it
[08:40] <vish> thorwil ¦ yea, we waited so long, whats 10days gonna do.. ;)  or we can invite him to join us here..
[08:40] <vish> just saying we are having some discussions, and that he can chat about it here
[14:31] <zniavre_> good afternoon
[14:32] <zniavre_> what do you think about the gap with menu/sub-menu and the menu's border ? > http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/4012/capture1qu.png <
[14:51] <doctormo> thorwil: can we keepp it low until we have a first or second iteration?
[15:53] <thorwil> doctormo: sure
[15:53] <doctormo> :-)
[15:56] <thorwil> doctormo: i'll just email jbaer, as he might want to align his planning and seeing how he cares about this like few else
[16:01] <doctormo> thorwil: Oh yes, anyone specific who can help or add to the project.
[17:01] <thorwil> doctormo: can and should i make https://code.launchpad.net/~art-design-website/+junk/meta-design-center appear on https://code.launchpad.net/erato ?
[18:42] <thorwil> mockups for the header: http://www.foopics.com/showfull/5113363e11fe4ded447e1328e1710509
[18:42] <thorwil> http://www.foopics.com/showfull/f41b636e329dc98421dd99864c9f58a1
[18:48] <daker> thorwil, +1 for the second
[18:51] <vish> thorwil¦ why do we need "Logged in as"  ?
[18:53]  * vish also wondering, why are we not sticking to Ubuntu theme..
[18:53] <thorwil> vish: to be very clear. of course it's not strictly necessary
[18:53] <thorwil> vish: because the site is meant to be neutral
[18:54] <vish> thorwil¦ i dont get the point of being neutral
[18:54] <thorwil> vish: both project neutral and neutral in colors to let the hosted images breath
[18:54] <vish> thorwil¦ we are trying to do it *for* Ubuntu, if someone else wants to use it for something else, thats up to them
[18:56] <thorwil> vish: the value of this site will be far greater if various projects can use the same instance and be neighbors
[18:57] <vish> thorwil¦ yes, but i still dont think it is the right way.. :) , we need to maintain consistency within Ubuntu, *that* should be our top priority , not what value it brings to neighbours
[18:58] <vish> thorwil¦ eventually it *needs* to fit Ubuntu at some point..
[18:59] <vish> so while it might be good to have it neutral now to attract neighbours, in the end we need to think about Ubuntu
[18:59] <thorwil> vish: the common ubuntu theming is entirely unsuitable for being the frame for various images and designs that you want to evaluate
[19:00] <vish> thorwil¦ yes, i agree, but we dont have to make the whole site look totally different..
[19:00] <thorwil> vish: all that needs to be specific to ubuntu can life inside the site, as an umbrella project / sub-section
[19:01]  * vish dint understand ^
[19:03] <thorwil> vish: i foresee nothing ubuntu-specific that needs to be designed into the architecture of the site
[19:03] <vish> thorwil¦ then where do intend to host it?  separate from the ubuntu namespace?
[19:06] <thorwil> vish: independent domain. i can take care of that, if i have to. will try to raise donations for hosting, then. though there could be a ubuntu.sitename.org and/or design-orsomething.ubuntu.com could point to the specific start page
[19:08] <vish> thorwil¦ well, i dint know your evil plans! ;p
[19:09]  * vish was wondering why the hell the design dint look 'Ubuntu' ;)
[19:09] <thorwil> vish: you didn't pay attention or you didn't really think it through when reading my recent blog post, then ;)
[19:10] <vish> thorwil¦ well, it seemed like it was for Ubuntu..
[19:11] <vish> thorwil¦ the branch/team was also Ubuntu website developers
[19:11] <thorwil> it's the same set of problems to solve, inside or outside of ubuntu. i prefer to solve them once for all
[19:12] <thorwil> "Website for Submitting Art and Design"
[19:12] <thorwil> "Art Design Website Developers"
[19:14] <vish> huh! did that get renamed..
[19:14] <vish> or i was just seeing what i wanted to see ;p
[19:15] <thorwil> vish: everyone in the team comes in from ubuntu and the initial idea was a specific site, yes. so no surprise there is confusion. like, i still don't know if everyone is on board
[19:16] <vish> well yea, i think the motivation was to get things done *for* Ubuntu /first/
[19:17] <thorwil> but that's the nice part. it doesn't matter if it's for ubuntu or for whatever :)
[19:18] <vish> ;)
[22:23] <Islington> anyone on?
[22:27] <ronnie_vd_c> Guys, the link on the artwork-wiki main page under Get Involved (nabble link) does not work anymore
[22:30] <andreas> good evening.
[22:31] <Islington> hey
[22:32] <ronnie_vd_c> evening
[22:34] <Islington> hey vish andreas doctormo anyone that will be going to uds, what is the protocol to show up for the design session on Tuesday? I live close enough to drive there