[04:37] <josuchav> ok, so can someone help me, here's what I have: I need to make libfltk1.1_1.1.9-4_i386.deb available to a certain executable. I found the file, but don't know what to do next
[04:39] <aveilleux> josuchav: Why would you need to make the package file available to another executable?
[04:42] <josuchav> It's kind of a long story, but in short, I'm tryin to get xs++ running on my laptop to unbrand my phone. If I run "sudo thunar" and double click the executable, the terminal asks for that file
[04:42] <josuchav> the site tells me I need it too
[04:43] <aveilleux> josuchav: ...thunar? Are you in Xubuntu?
[04:43] <josuchav> yes
[04:43] <josuchav> is that ok
[04:45] <josuchav> I'm really just now steppin into the terminal and away from the Ubuntu software center
[04:45] <josuchav> so it's been quite the learnin experience for me
[04:46] <aveilleux> josuchav: If you need to install the .deb file, you can just run sudo dpkg -i libfltk1.1_1.1.9-4_i386.deb
[04:47] <josuchav> aveilleux: you think this is a bad idea though?
[04:47] <aveilleux> josuchav: I just don't understand what you're trying to do.
[04:48] <aveilleux> josuchav: I will be stepping out in a moment, be back in a bit
[04:48] <josuchav> aveilleux: ok
[04:59] <josuchav> i got it to work.. thanks
[07:53] <shahan> problem on installing .deb on Maverick. the Software Center opens
[07:54] <shahan> the Software Center opens while installing .deb files
[07:54] <aveilleux> shahan: right-click, Open With, GDebi
[07:55] <shahan> aveilleux: I have no GDebi installed
[07:55] <aveilleux> pffffwhaaat
[07:55] <aveilleux> Is it not included in the default install?
[07:57] <shahan> aveilleux: sudo apt-get install gdebi does not work
[07:57] <shahan> aveilleux: it says "sudo dpkg -i filename.deb"
[07:57] <shahan> aveilleux: sorry
[07:57] <shahan> aveilleux: bash: cd: sudo: No such file or directory
[07:59] <shahan> aveilleux: installing from software center
[08:01] <shahan> aveilleux: tnx... :)
[09:19] <RambleTamble> Hi. What is the difference between .deb and .rpm? Which package should i download?
[09:20] <andrew_46> RambleTamble: Ubuntu does not normally use .rpm packages, normally .deb. Which software are you lookin at?
[09:21] <andrew_46> g
[09:21] <RambleTamble> openoffice
[09:21] <andrew_46> oic
[09:21] <andrew_46> RambleTamble: Not keen on the repository version?
[09:23] <RambleTamble> andrew_46: I've just thought about it) and can I update it via bash? sudo apt-get update openoffice - something like that?
[09:24] <andrew_46> RambleTamble: Normally if you have openoffice installed a new version in the Ubuntu Repository will be downloaded in the course of a routine update
[09:24] <andrew_46> That is: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[09:25] <andrew_46> But IMHO differences between close OpenOffice versions is not that great anyway :)
[09:25] <andrew_46> Others will disagree
[09:29] <RambleTamble> andrew_46: thanks. hmm anyway after update&upgrade it still 3.2.0 and lastest release is 3.2.1. It means that lastest release not immediately comes to repository?
[09:30] <andrew_46> RambleTamble: No, this depends on when the Ubuntu/Debian packagers prepare the package and release it to the Ubuntu Repository
[09:33] <RambleTamble> andrew_46: got it thanks
[09:34] <andrew_46> RambleTamble: Less of a problem with Openoffice than programs like FFmpeg and MPlayer which date very quickly :(
[09:35] <JoeMaverickSett> RambleTamble: or you could upgrade it using this ppa https://launchpad.net/~openoffice-pkgs/+archive/ppa
[09:37] <JoeMaverickSett> ah, wait, i think this one would be better, RambleTamble.
[09:38] <JoeMaverickSett> RambleTamble: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/08/openoffice-321-available-in-ubuntu-1004.html
[09:39] <andrew_46> RambleTamble: You are keen for the newest version?
[09:39] <RambleTamble> andrew_46: yep..
[09:46] <andrew_46> RambleTamble: As JoeMaverickSett has mentioned a PPA might be the answer, but I have not personally tested the scribblers one :(
[09:48] <andrew_46> You are running Maverick?
[09:49] <RambleTamble> I've just updated it using second link, it's 3.2.1 now :)
[09:50] <andrew_46> RambleTamble: Too easy :)
[09:50] <JoeMaverickSett> lol.
[10:03] <jappie>  It seems that imap email does not save my send emails in evolution 2.30.3 . Anybody any ideas? I tried a bunch...it works fine in Thunderbird but i really like evolution...
[10:10] <shahan> need to change the permission of a folder....
[10:10] <shahan> I have tried through                  sudo chmod +w /var/www/folder_name
[10:10] <shahan> but its not changing I think
[10:10] <shahan> http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/3483/forbidden.png
[10:11] <bioterror> shahan, how about +r
[10:12] <shahan> bioterror: didnt check
[10:12] <shahan> bioterror: let me check
[10:12] <shahan> bioterror: same .. not change
[10:13] <bioterror> well
[10:13] <bioterror> chmod a+r
[10:14] <shahan> bioterror: same
[10:14] <shahan> bioterror: no change
[10:14] <JoeMaverickSett> chmod 755 /var/www ?
[10:15] <JoeMaverickSett> shahan: how about,try this http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?p=153#p153
[10:16] <shahan> JoeMaverickSett: tnx... its working
[10:16] <shahan> tnx all
[10:16] <JoeMaverickSett> shahan: okie, but read the post again also, just to be sure.
[10:18] <shahan> Today we have a meeting on UBUNTU about the release party... we all the users of Dhaka, Bangladesh will meet in a place... at 4 PM and its 3:17 PM
[10:18] <shahan> JoeMaverickSett: ok... I will read it later.... I have bookmarked it
[10:18] <JoeMaverickSett> shahan: okie. :)
[11:54] <eaerth> might i be able to trouble someone with a little of their time troubleshooting a bug i'm having?
[11:55] <slidinghorn> eaerth:  I'm no expert, but I'm more than happy to try!
[11:55] <eaerth> slidinghorn: thanks! a response was all i was even looking for hahahaha
[11:56] <slidinghorn> eaerth:  well then, that was easy!  lol
[11:56] <eaerth> slidinghorn: i'm running maverick and bsically one in ten times when i move my windows the screen just goes black ;\
[11:57] <slidinghorn> eaerth:  no blinking cursor or anything, just black?
[11:59] <eaerth> yeah, just black... i googled the heck out of this and i did find a few cases of it happening to people on boot and i guess they had flashing cursors... but mine is well after boot. sometimes it rarely happens but it's prominently when moving a window around the desktop. and as far as i can tell everything is still running because if i had music playing it's still on...
[12:00] <slidinghorn> is it any specific window?  or just any one?
[12:00] <eaerth> any one.
[12:00] <slidinghorn> hmm...let me do some digging and see if I can find anything
[12:00] <eaerth> thanks so much! :D
[12:01] <slidinghorn> what are your specs?  (resources, video card, etc)
[12:01] <eaerth> at first i could deal with it, just had to shut down but it's gotten so irritating lately...
[12:01] <eaerth> k my video card is ati radeon uhhhmm... xpress 200M as far as resources goes what are you referring to?
[12:02] <eaerth> like cpu/ram?
[12:03] <slidinghorn> both, and is this a laptop/desktop?  brand?  also, are you running desktop or netbook edition?
[12:03] <eaerth> yeah, laptop acer aspire 5100, running the desktop edition i'm pretty sure, the 32bit version.
[12:04] <slidinghorn> k
[12:04] <eaerth> cpu is 1.6ghz and i'm pretty sure i have two 512mb ram cards.
[12:05] <eaerth> my processor is 64bit but honestly, with the low amount of ram i have i doubt i'd even notice the fragment of a second difference in speed if i used the 64bit version of ubuntu...
[12:06] <eaerth> i had lucid for a short amount of time before doing a clean install of maverick and never had this problem. ;\
[12:07] <eaerth> hmmm... are you familiar at all with any driver stuff associated with xorg edgers? i think it was called gallium or something... i can't remember the name or i'd try to get rid of it and see if that helps.
[12:08] <slidinghorn> well Lucid is likely to be more stable, as it's an LTS (long term support) release -- the in-between releases (like Maverick) are known to be a bit more buggy
[12:09] <eaerth> see i didn't know maverick was an in between release! what a bummer... some perfect ten this turned out to be ;S
[12:11] <eaerth> honestly the only reason i even upgraded was because i tried getting this music app guayadeque and it wouldn't load, it jsut showed the splash and then nothing but it's in maverick's repo so i said why not try the new version anyway?
[12:11] <slidinghorn> ah, yes...every 2 years (I believe) they release an LTS and then the others are kind of like tinker toys to experiment for the next LTS (that's the way I tend to look at it)
[12:11] <eaerth> those sick perverts!
[12:12] <eaerth> hahaha jk
[12:12] <slidinghorn> lol
[12:12] <eaerth> yeah this is a real bummer...
[12:12] <eaerth> i have a few more bugs but this one is the most annoying ;\
[12:13] <eaerth> is it possible to downgrade back to lucid without losing my files?
[12:13] <bioterror> I suggest downgrade only by fresh installation
[12:13] <eaerth> yeah.....
[12:13] <slidinghorn> as far as I'm aware, downgrading isn't supported...I'd back up the files & install freash
[12:13] <slidinghorn> fresh*
[12:14] <eaerth> i figured that and was hoping by a long shot maybe i was wrong hahaha
[12:14] <eaerth> my friend took his external hdd back so now i'm stuck i think.
[12:14] <bioterror> copy your ~/ to safe and reinstall
[12:14] <eaerth> ~/ ?
[12:14] <eaerth> home folder?
[12:14] <bioterror> yeah
[12:14] <eaerth> gotcha
[12:14] <bioterror> there no place like ~ or 127.0.0.1 ;)
[12:15] <eaerth> hahaha, forreal...
[12:15] <eaerth> is there perhaps a xorg irc channel? ;S
[12:16] <eaerth> i went to opengl but apparently it's only for app developers and one of the guys there was a jerkface.
[12:16] <bioterror> :D
[12:16] <eaerth> hahahahaha
[12:17] <slidinghorn> lol @ jerkface...that's what my gf calls me :-P
[12:17] <eaerth> hahaha nice
[12:18] <eaerth> yeah i'm trying not to upset any bots with my potty mouth. ;S
[12:21] <eaerth> hmmmm... what about a way of reverting maverick back to the way it was when i first installed it without losing files? ;S
[15:54] <Silver_Fox_> Hello.
[16:09]  * seidos hears crickets chirping
[16:09] <Silver_Fox_> Shh, you're talking over the crickets
[16:09] <Silver_Fox_> =)
[16:10]  * seidos silences himself
[16:49] <shahan> How can I activate Dolphine filemanager instead of nautilus
[16:49] <shahan> ?
[16:51] <slidinghorn> shahan have you already installed it?
[16:52] <shahan> slidinghorn: not yet
[16:53] <AbhiJit> hi shahan
[16:53] <shahan> AbhiJit: hello
[16:53] <shahan> I am interested to set Dolphine as my filemanager
[16:53] <AbhiJit> shahan, in future if you have important things to add to ibus wiki feel free to do so. you can learn the editing in #ubuntu-beginners-wiki etc
[16:54] <shahan> AbhiJit: ok.. tnx
[16:55] <slidinghorn> shahan:  take a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DefaultFileManager
[16:55] <genupulas> komputes,  i am having some problem with gpg decryption
[16:55] <genupulas> http://paste.ubuntu.com/518124/
[16:55] <genupulas> komputes, ^
[16:57] <shahan> slidinghorn: I want to use Dolphine...
[16:57] <slidinghorn> shahan:  that link tells you how to do it
[16:57] <slidinghorn> shahan:  what is dolphine?
[16:58] <shahan> slidinghorn: its a File Manager like Nautilus
[16:58] <genupulas> slidinghorn,  its a file manager in kubuntu
[16:58] <slidinghorn> genupulas:  that's what I thought but the "e" at the end was confusing me
[16:59] <shahan> slidinghorn: its not the Dolphine ... its Thunar
[16:59] <genupulas> shahan, thunar
[16:59] <slidinghorn> shahan: dolphin is further down
[17:00] <genupulas> shahan,  thunar means
[17:00] <slidinghorn> shahan:  oh i'm sorry, i guess they haven't added the script yet....
[17:00] <shahan> genupulas: its a file manager
[17:01] <genupulas> shahan,  ok
[17:01] <genupulas> http://paste.ubuntu.com/518124/ shahan  look this please
[17:01] <genupulas> shahan, i working on this form last night
[17:02] <shahan> slidinghorn: Dolphine installed....
[17:02] <shahan> slidinghorn: its not good..... :( I thought it would be good....
[17:02] <shahan> genupulas: hmm
[17:03] <slidinghorn> shahan:  now that I've looked further into it, I don't think you can change file managers that easily because nautilus manages the icons/desktop
[17:03] <shahan> slidinghorn: hmm
[17:04] <shahan> genupulas: sorry!! I also tried on this... but didnt go forward....
[17:04] <shahan> genupulas: you can ask others.... I am sorry :(
[17:05] <genupulas> shahan,  choose any one who can help me about this
[17:05] <shahan> genupulas:  you can ask Mohan_chml
[17:05] <eastern_gardens> Hello, I have been searching the web for a solution to adding a grammar tool to OOO writer - I have not found an easy one. I have installed all sorts of extras such as Java from the software center but I have not found anything under the title of grammar tools for English.
[17:07] <genupulas> shahan,  i did that ,he is having some personal problem
[17:08] <shahan> genupulas: you can ask him to find out a guy who is able to help you regarding this
[17:09] <slidinghorn> genupulas:  just ask your question in the channel -- if anyone has an answer, they'll respond :)
[17:09] <slidinghorn> eastern_gardens:  what add-ons did you install, and what didn't work?
[17:09] <genupulas> ok ok 5 min plz
[17:10] <komputes> genupulas: please follow the documentation on how to generate a GPG key here:  Ce cas de support sera fermé automatiquement dans 3 jours. Vous serez en mesure de rouvrir ce cas en postant un commentaire.
[17:11] <komputes> oops sorry
[17:11] <komputes> genupulas: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto
[17:16] <genupulas> komputes,  i read that already
[17:17] <genupulas> http://paste.ubuntu.com/518134/
[17:18] <genupulas> komputes,  my problem is that
[17:18] <komputes> genupulas: perhaps rajagenupula.txt is not a pgp encrypted text
[17:23] <genupulas> i am leaving this
[17:23] <genupulas> may i cant do it
[17:23] <genupulas> komputes, ^ bye
[17:30] <standforth> Cheri703: Hello.
[17:30] <Cheri703> hi
[17:31] <standforth> Cheri703: How's the project going?
[17:31] <Cheri703> done for now
[17:32] <standforth> Cool. I'm having great fun with Inkscape. Checked out a branch last night.
[17:32] <Cheri703> good good
[17:33] <standforth> One thing I think it needs is a splash screen.
[17:33] <aveilleux> Nothing needs a splash screen.
[17:34] <Cheri703> +1 aveilleux
[17:34] <standforth> aveilluex, well it's always nice to know it's loading.
[17:35] <hobgoblin> I like to assume things have loaded when they appear :)
[17:35] <aveilleux> "Loading Inkscape" in the Panel is good enough for me
[17:36] <standforth> okay then, I just like to see some pretty graphics.
[17:37] <hobgoblin> different kettle of fish completely :)
[17:38]  * seidos throws a pumpkin bomb at hobgoblin and runs
[17:38] <hobgoblin> coward :)
[17:39] <standforth> Cheri703: of course I will mainly be looking at SVG to JPEG conversion.
[17:39] <Cheri703> well, thanks :)
[18:31] <ehcah> Hello.  Does anyone have any experience with Cedega?
[18:31] <aveilleux> ehcah: I have some; not a lot, and not recent
[18:32] <ehcah> aveileux:  Is it specifically for Gaming?  Or, like "wine", can I install a Windows Based Home Design Suite software?
[18:33] <slidinghorn> ehcah:  it's used to run a lot of windows programs...check out the appdb
[18:33] <slidinghorn> !appdb | ehcah
[18:33] <ubot2> ehcah: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help
[18:35] <ehcah> slidinghorn:  My program, "Architectural Studio 5000" is not on their list.  I have it running under wine, but it is very slow.  It runs better under my Windows 7 Virtual OS.
[18:35] <slidinghorn> ehcah:  some apps run better virtually than in wine...just have to find the right way to do it
[18:35] <aveilleux> ehcah: I do not recommend Cedega. It is proprietary and uses outdated WINE code.
[18:36] <aveilleux> ehcah: It's basically proprietary WINE.
[18:36] <ehcah> slidinghorn:  is there any way to modify how wine treats my app?
[18:36] <ehcah> aveilleux:  It's also $6 a month with no guarantees of working...
[18:36] <aveilleux> ehcah: That too.
[18:37] <ehcah> aveilleux:  If wine is running my program. Is there any way to modify wine to run it cleaner?
[18:37] <slidinghorn> ehcah:  dont know...try checking out #winehq -- that's the official wine support channel
[18:37] <ehcah> slidinghorn:  I asked a few times between last night and this morning.  No answers...
[18:38] <aveilleux> ehcah: What version are you running? You could try updating to the dev version
[18:38] <ehcah> aveilleux: 1.2.1
[18:39] <aveilleux> ehcah: Try updating to 1.3.*, the development version. It might help performance a little.
[18:40] <ehcah> Is that a matter of updating my sources.list to a ... nightly-build?
[18:41] <aveilleux> ehcah: add the PPA, then uninstall wine1.2 and install wine1.3
[18:41] <aveilleux> ehcah: http://www.winehq.org/download/deb
[18:42] <ehcah> aveilleux:  Will I have to reinstall all the windows apps I have been using?
[20:48] <Galeo> Hi. I have two questions : how do I get back the top panel under Ubuntu 10.10 ? The wireless used to work on the laptop, but it doesn't even show anymore any network... What can I do ?
[20:49] <aveilleux> Galeo: You removed your top panel? You can right-click on the bottom panel and click "add panel" to get a new one back
[20:49] <Galeo> I got back the panel.
[20:50] <aveilleux> Galeo: You'll have to re-add all the applets to it though.
[23:01]  * slidinghorn yawns