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| alonswartz | smoser, ec2 folks: heard the news? Amazon now offer AWS free usage tier: http://aws.amazon.com/free/ | 08:28 |
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| kim0 | When it says "Beginning November 1, new AWS customers will be able to run a free Amazon EC2 Micro Instance for a year" | 12:20 |
| kim0 | Does that mean old customers won't ? | 12:20 |
| daker | congrat kim0 !! | 12:22 |
| kim0 | daker: hey thanks man :) | 12:22 |
| smoser | 10 GB of Amazon Elastic Block Storage, plus 1 million I/Os, 1 GB of snapshot storage, 10,000 snapshot Get Requests and 1,000 snapshot Put Requests* | 14:11 |
| smoser | its almost as if they explicitly decided to charge users of default ubuntu images. | 14:11 |
| smoser | :-( | 14:11 |
| alonswartz | smoser: and it's only for new AWS accounts... | 14:14 |
| smoser | well, thats easy enough to come up with | 14:15 |
| smoser | i think it just requires an email address, maybe a creditcard. | 14:15 |
| alonswartz | yes, so why inconvenience us? | 14:15 |
| smoser | its a move in special | 14:19 |
| smoser | same as "free inbound data" | 14:19 |
| smoser | just like at the apartment complex when they give you 1 month free your first year, then they raise the rates when your lease is up. | 14:20 |
| smoser | there is pain to leave, and you're already there, so you just pay it. | 14:20 |
| smoser | what is really interesting to me is the amazon linux ebs amis have 15G disk | 14:20 |
| smoser | so even *those* will charge people 0.50 / month | 14:21 |
| smoser | its cheap, but i would think it will appear to a lot of people as unexpected | 14:21 |
| patrickw | Anyone out there running oracle on ubuntu vms? I'm trying to virtualize our development environments (glassfish + opensso + oracle) and after working my ass off to get gf + opensso to work I've discovered oracle may be an even bigger pita (for completely different reasons)... Am I better off going with CentOS VMs? | 17:06 |
| flaccid | probably best to make your own oracle vm | 17:07 |
| flaccid | well, not necessarily an image | 17:07 |
| flaccid | i might be able to pull up some stuff if you run into problems | 17:08 |
| patrickw | roll a vm using what as a base? I'm really not familiar with oracle at all, I need to talk to my "engineering" team but this is a *cough* gov't subcontract and our "engineers" aren't really *nix gurus | 17:10 |
| flaccid | you start by installing oracle | 17:11 |
| smoser | Daviey, ping | 18:28 |
| Daviey | smoser: o/ | 18:28 |
| smoser | i stumbled across an easy way to do ebs root | 18:28 |
| smoser | on uec | 18:29 |
| smoser | does uec support booting with '--block-device-mapping' ? | 18:29 |
| smoser | i think it doesnt | 18:29 |
| smoser | if it did, then we could just create a loader that attempted to chainload or multiboot load off of a different device than (hd0,1) | 18:31 |
| Daviey | smoser: it makes sense, and seems like a proper way to do it | 18:33 |
| smoser | Daviey, do you know if it does support block device mapping and attaching a snapshot at boot ? | 18:33 |
| smoser | it would be very easy if it does | 18:33 |
| Daviey | i have nfi | 18:33 |
| Daviey | it is worth noting that euca's current development version is aiming to achieve ebs root. | 18:33 |
| Daviey | but if we could get that to work with lucid and maverick that would be NICE | 18:34 |
| smoser | the loader based way owuldn't work on lucid | 18:35 |
| Daviey | ah yes | 18:35 |
| smoser | but we could/can come up with a solution there, basically an ami pivot-root image. | 18:35 |
| smoser | kernel matching might be an issue there | 18:36 |
| Daviey | smoser: I think i'd actually recommend people use maverick in production over lucid tbh. :) | 18:36 |
| smoser | which we would have botten away with in the loader route | 18:36 |
| smoser | maverick euca is much nicer, i agree. | 18:36 |
| smoser | did you see http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~smoser/%2Bjunk/uec-on-ec2/annotate/head%3A/maverick-commands.txt ? | 18:37 |
| * Daviey look | 18:37 | |
| Daviey | s | 18:37 |
| Daviey | ah nice! | 18:38 |
| Daviey | Looking forward to trying that next week | 18:38 |
| smoser | it "just works". really smooth. user-data, boot, poof! uec-on-ec2 | 18:39 |
| smoser | i thought about this bootloader solution when i stumbled upon this bug: | 18:41 |
| smoser | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cloud-init/+bug/665235 | 18:41 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 665235 in cloud-init "attaching a volume to maverick instance may boot off it" [Undecided,New] | 18:41 |
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