=== h1_ is now known as h1 === whaley_ is now known as whaley [08:28] smoser, ec2 folks: heard the news? Amazon now offer AWS free usage tier: http://aws.amazon.com/free/ === flaccid_ is now known as flaccid [12:20] When it says "Beginning November 1, new AWS customers will be able to run a free Amazon EC2 Micro Instance for a year" [12:20] Does that mean old customers won't ? [12:22] congrat kim0 !! [12:22] daker: hey thanks man :) [14:11] 10 GB of Amazon Elastic Block Storage, plus 1 million I/Os, 1 GB of snapshot storage, 10,000 snapshot Get Requests and 1,000 snapshot Put Requests* [14:11] its almost as if they explicitly decided to charge users of default ubuntu images. [14:11] :-( [14:14] smoser: and it's only for new AWS accounts... [14:15] well, thats easy enough to come up with [14:15] i think it just requires an email address, maybe a creditcard. [14:15] yes, so why inconvenience us? [14:19] its a move in special [14:19] same as "free inbound data" [14:20] just like at the apartment complex when they give you 1 month free your first year, then they raise the rates when your lease is up. [14:20] there is pain to leave, and you're already there, so you just pay it. [14:20] what is really interesting to me is the amazon linux ebs amis have 15G disk [14:21] so even *those* will charge people 0.50 / month [14:21] its cheap, but i would think it will appear to a lot of people as unexpected [17:06] Anyone out there running oracle on ubuntu vms? I'm trying to virtualize our development environments (glassfish + opensso + oracle) and after working my ass off to get gf + opensso to work I've discovered oracle may be an even bigger pita (for completely different reasons)... Am I better off going with CentOS VMs? [17:07] probably best to make your own oracle vm [17:07] well, not necessarily an image [17:08] i might be able to pull up some stuff if you run into problems [17:10] roll a vm using what as a base? I'm really not familiar with oracle at all, I need to talk to my "engineering" team but this is a *cough* gov't subcontract and our "engineers" aren't really *nix gurus [17:11] you start by installing oracle [18:28] Daviey, ping [18:28] smoser: o/ [18:28] i stumbled across an easy way to do ebs root [18:29] on uec [18:29] does uec support booting with '--block-device-mapping' ? [18:29] i think it doesnt [18:31] if it did, then we could just create a loader that attempted to chainload or multiboot load off of a different device than (hd0,1) [18:33] smoser: it makes sense, and seems like a proper way to do it [18:33] Daviey, do you know if it does support block device mapping and attaching a snapshot at boot ? [18:33] it would be very easy if it does [18:33] i have nfi [18:33] it is worth noting that euca's current development version is aiming to achieve ebs root. [18:34] but if we could get that to work with lucid and maverick that would be NICE [18:35] the loader based way owuldn't work on lucid [18:35] ah yes [18:35] but we could/can come up with a solution there, basically an ami pivot-root image. [18:36] kernel matching might be an issue there [18:36] smoser: I think i'd actually recommend people use maverick in production over lucid tbh. :) [18:36] which we would have botten away with in the loader route [18:36] maverick euca is much nicer, i agree. [18:37] did you see http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~smoser/%2Bjunk/uec-on-ec2/annotate/head%3A/maverick-commands.txt ? [18:37] * Daviey look [18:37] s [18:38] ah nice! [18:38] Looking forward to trying that next week [18:39] it "just works". really smooth. user-data, boot, poof! uec-on-ec2 [18:41] i thought about this bootloader solution when i stumbled upon this bug: [18:41] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cloud-init/+bug/665235 [18:41] Launchpad bug 665235 in cloud-init "attaching a volume to maverick instance may boot off it" [Undecided,New] === Hussain is now known as Hussain_Away