[00:31] yay insomnia [00:41] :-( [00:42] I feel your pain nigelb [00:42] hope you get rest soon [00:42] JFo: thanks. I knew you'd understand :) [00:42] * nigelb is not looking forward to work today :/ [00:42] I can imagine [00:43] I wonder if insomnia is a possible reason to fill up in a leave form :/ [00:44] depends on the employer :-( [00:45] paultag: it looks lovely [01:01] kim0: applying for membership? :) [01:01] nigelb: yep :) [01:01] wish me luck [01:01] \o/ [01:08] whoa, I din't know abut your fedora experience :D [01:09] go kim0 ! [01:18] nigelb, akgraner kim0 has everyone cheered already? [01:19] paultag: feel free to cheer more [01:19] congrats kim0 :) [01:19] (not yet, but we know you're there :) ) [01:20] fingers crossed [01:20] where's lyz [01:22] nigelb: thanks man [01:22] kim0: \o/ [01:22] * nigelb looks forward to /ubuntu/member/kim0 in a few minutes/hours [01:23] :) [01:23] nigelb: who adds me to the LP group ubuntumember [01:23] RMB after the meeting IIRC [01:23] wait it out kim0 :) [01:23] kim0: board [01:23] I can't wait :) [01:23] kim0: you can ask in #ubuntu-irc for the cloak [01:23] right after the meeting is great though [01:23] I'm more after planet ubuntu aggregation [01:23] its probably assigned to today's chair [01:24] boards tend to rotate it around [01:24] kim0: shit, forgot to add my stuff to your wiki page [01:24] jcastro, :( [01:24] jcastro: no worries .. it worked [01:24] jcastro: haha, he's in anyway [01:24] !ohmy | jcastro [01:24] jcastro: Please remember that all Ubuntu IRC channels share the same attitude of providing friendly and polite interaction with all users of all ages and cultures. Basically, this means no foul language and no abuse towards others. [01:24] :p [01:24] * nigelb giggles [01:24] hah [01:24] I have been waiting to do this for long! [01:24] kim0: oh so you got it? [01:24] Yep [01:24] \o/ [01:24] \o/ [01:25] go kim0! go kim0 ! \0/! [01:25] akgraner: Thanks Amber [01:25] :) [01:25] paultag: jcastro nigelb Thanks folks [01:25] :) [01:25] kim0: congrats :) [01:25] kim0: no, go sleep :) [01:25] Pendulum: thank you [01:25] *NOW [01:25] kim0, if I knew about it earlier, I would have said something during the meeting. It ain't no thing, you deserve it [01:26] kim0: Now get your blog on Planet Ubuntu ;) [01:26] * kim0 shakes from nigelb [01:26] nigelb: I think your telling kim0 to sleep is a bit pot calling the kettle black :P [01:26] I have a thing about writing testimonials only for people who do work for / with me, but I'd gladly talk on IRC about it :) [01:26] nhandler: you guys will add me to the LP group right after the meeting right ? [01:26] kim0: Already added [01:26] Pendulum: No, its more like. Well, I didn't get to sleep, at least why don't you grab some [01:26] nhandler: ah awesome [01:27] think about nhandler and he sees the conversation :D [01:27] heh [01:27] now planet will become about clouds and servers! [01:27] lol [01:27] I have to write something about my new server running Ubuntu [01:27] finally, someone talking about real computers [01:28] hehe [01:28] ^5 [01:28] jcastro: its a cloud server :p [01:28] I'm happy I finally got my own cloud :-) [01:28] akgraner: oh you did? [01:28] yay! [01:28] * nhandler has a pogoplug, but he can't get Ubuntu/Debian installed on it :( [01:29] nhandler, dude, try my idea >:( [01:29] nhandler, I'm sure you can get it to work [01:29] yep - pete is happy too :-) and he says now take care of your own s$%^! in the nicest way possible [01:29] akgraner: haha [01:29] paultag: A bit over my head. [01:30] nhandler, no way, you're 100% there, man [01:30] BRB [01:30] nigelb, nick's helping me [01:30] akgraner: \o/ [01:30] back [01:30] I just managed to set up wordpress on mine, not complete yet though [01:31] Gah, be back later. Much love ya'll. 'grats kim0 :) [01:31] * kim0 bzr uploading his head :) [01:33] nigelb, akgraner.com just got moved to a vps so I needed to learn more about all that [01:34] akgraner: \o/ [01:34] akgraner: It is easy to install sutff [01:34] configuring apache... *shudder* [01:35] the first time I tried I couldn't do it - started yelling a Pete that didn't get me far [01:35] s/a/at [01:36] hahaha [01:36] 'tried yelling at Pete' [01:40] * kim0 hugs everyone .. and races to bed [06:54] good morning peoples! [07:01] morning jussi [07:31] ok, now Im confused [07:32] where did the extra rooms come from? (see the difference? http://uds.ubuntu.com/participate/remote/ - http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-n/ ) [07:36] jussi: one of them is the auditorium kinda place [07:36] but yeah, an extra room [07:37] nigelb: ummm? [07:37] where did all the extra curacao rooms come from? [07:38] I used the list on sumit to create channels... do i need to create more? [07:38] jussi: oh, ugh. [07:38] jussi: call 911 aka jcastro [07:38] I think Ill just wait for jcastro... [07:38] lol [07:40] I think we are geting close to being ready with this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JussiSchultink/IRCMembership - anyone got any extra bits we might have missed? [07:45] jussi: hrm, should that form of membership go to rmb? [07:46] I mean then we'll have have forums memebership next, ask ubuntu membership [07:47] Good morning! [07:47] Good morning dholbach :) [07:48] hi nigelb [08:01] good morning! [08:01] Good morning ara [08:01] I waiting for kim0 to land up with his new cloak [08:01] *I'm [08:01] good morning nigelb [08:08] nigelb: this is something specifically asked for by Mark. [08:09] and the fc can do membership, they just havent actioned it... [08:09] dholbach: anything extra for here? anything we have missed? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JussiSchultink/IRCMembership [08:09] jussi: oh, ok [08:10] jussi: It looks good but the question just hit me so I asked [08:10] o/ morning folks [08:10] morning kim0 [08:11] Morning kim0 [08:11] where is your cloak! [08:11] jussi: nigelb hey [08:11] nigelb: hehe .. no idea how to get that one [08:11] jussi: bribe jussi :p [08:11] err [08:11] !cloak [08:11] Want to hide your IP while connected to freenode? See http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks More information available in #freenode [08:11] kim0: ^^ [08:11] lol [08:12] hrm [08:12] kim0: are you an ubuntu memeber? [08:12] kim0: just ask in #ubuntu-irc [08:12] member even? [08:12] jussi: yes, as of yesterday [08:12] jussi: yeah yesterday :) [08:12] jussi, I'd make the list of contributions less explicit or you'll find yourself adding new types of contributions whenever somebody asks "does this count too?" [08:12] congratulations kim0! :) [08:12] kim0: ok, #ubuntu-irc and give your lp page [08:12] dholbach: hey thanks :) [08:12] jussi, or maybe add one more more generic item to it [08:12] hey dpm [08:12] jussi: thanks [08:12] dpm: morning [08:12] morning dpm [08:13] dholbach: I thought this sentence would cover it: In addition to the above general contributions list, here are some possible forms of IRC contributions: [08:13] morning dholbach, kim0, nigelb! :) [08:13] jussi, I'd add a link to the IRC Council meeting agenda page, so people know where to add themselves and when to show up [08:14] dholbach: ok, will do [08:18] kim0, woohoo [08:18] yay! [08:19] 03:18 -!- kim0 [~kim0@ubuntu/member/kim0] has joined #ubuntu-community-team [08:19] lovely cloak [08:19] ah hehe :) awesome [08:20] jussi, I'd change it a bit... maybe "Ubuntu membership generally recognises significant and sustained contributions to Ubuntu. (place link to Membership somwhere there) An active IRC contributor is held to the same standards, but the main focus of activity is expected in Ubuntu IRC community organisation, examples for that work are...." or something like that [08:20] jussi, when I read it, I wasn't sure what "above general contributions list" was about :) [08:20] and I'd lose a word or two about Ubuntu membership generally [08:20] apart from that it looks good to me [08:20] just imagine you'd land on the page and you hadn't heard of membership before [08:25] dholbach: ok, Ive made a few changes now [08:25] super [08:25] dholbach: Ill run it byt the ircc one more time, and then send it over to the cc. [08:26] super [08:26] thanks [08:31] dholbach: and please do make my apology clear for not getting this done sooner. I feel really bad that it just didnt get done. [08:32] jussi, I'm not sure I understand what you want me to say here? [08:34] dholbach: never mind, Im just feeling bad for not attending to this earlier. [08:35] jussi, I think it'll be a good measure to introduce it and it'll have positive impact - better late than never [08:35] yes, I thought same. :) [08:49] kim0: if you havent already, take a peak at the membership benefits listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership#Procedure%20for%20Obtaining%20Membership [08:50] jussi: thanks man .. I did :) [09:31] morning all [09:31] * popey hugs dholbach [09:32] * dholbach hugs popey back :) [09:33] thanks popey [09:33] np [09:33] I'm thrilled to see the Afghan LoCo take off [09:33] yeah, me too [09:42] kim0, congrats on getting Ubuntu membership! [09:43] dpm: Yaay :) thanks man [09:43] dpm, did the afghan loco get in touch with you? [09:44] dholbach, I've spoken to several people regarding Persian localization, but that was some weeks ago, did any particular person wanted to get in touch? [09:44] oh, but that was Persian as in Iran [09:44] so, no, no contact from the Afghan loco [09:44] dpm, Sadeq Zabihi [09:45] dpm, ok - I told him that you were in touch with the Persian folks [09:46] I'm not sure how they can best collaborate (Dari and Persian are quite similar), I don't know if our setup supports something like that :) [09:46] dholbach, they've got a list for Persian localization, but I'm not sure if the Afghan folks are in there too. He hasn't been in touch with me, and he wasn't on any of the CC lists on the e-mails I exchanged with the Iranian folks [09:46] thanks dpm [09:48] dholbach, right now in LP we've only got one Persian dialect (Farsi). There was a request from a guy to create a language entry for Dari, but we asked him to try to collaborate with the main Persian team, and IIRC he never replied back. Let me dig out the question in lp... [09:48] https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/rosetta/+question/76655 [09:48] kim0: congrats on membership [09:49] czajkowski: yaay :) thanks [09:49] https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/+languages/fa_AF [09:49] dholbach, oh, I didn't know about that one. I wasn't involved there, the one I'm talking about was another one, let me see if I can find it... [09:49] seems it was sorted out [09:50] yeah, there might be a language, but they've got no translation team [09:50] there's https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-l10n-prs [09:54] no randa [09:54] :( [09:55] czajkowski: now we have channels, you might want to update your blog entry [09:55] czajkowski: and Hai! [09:58] he channels are the roooms aren't they [09:58] jussi: ^^ [10:01] czajkowski: yes, they are: http://paste.ubuntu.com/516304/ [10:01] now I got to run [10:01] jussi: so I have that on the blog already :) [10:03] czajkowski: i think his point was "make it obvious what the channel names are in your blog post" [10:03] czajkowski: your blog post doesn't list the channels [10:03] okie dokie [10:03] i would list them and make them webchat links! [10:03] :) [10:03] that way people can just clickify them [10:04] well I did list them... but will make webchat links later on [10:04] need to go do an interview today about a school using Ubuntu [10:04] then get car NCT/MOT [10:04] oh, just refreshed, sorry [10:04] who wants to be nice and answer a question on my blog for me :D http://www.lczajkowski.com/2010/10/19/how-to-remote-participate-at-uds-n-and-get-the-most-of-the-sessions/ [10:04] the one from Patrick [10:05] 1) UTC, 2) file a bug [10:05] actually the times are probably local arent they? [10:05] east coast [11:32] * dpm -> lunch [11:52] EST [12:24] morning all [12:24] * nigelb waves [12:24] congrats kim0 [12:24] duanedesign: hey thanks :) [12:25] * duanedesign waves at nigelb [12:25] * nigelb waves back weakly [12:27] oops, did I just DoS'd ubingo [12:27] oreally? [12:28] ok, no [12:28] up for me [12:28] my net's just flaky [12:28] I was going to blog about it very shortly [12:28] strangely, only on port 80. IRC works fine [12:29] been working on some graphics for theBeginners Team. Inspired by the nicuraguan loco reapproval app. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/duanedesign/sandbox3 [12:31] duanedesign: oh, the fg structure changed? [12:37] nigelb: that is the 'new' structure we are working on [12:38] Ah [12:38] nigelb: makes a lot more sense then the current one. [12:38] yes, it does [12:38] Only thing that doesn't make sense - what took you so long? [12:39] nigelb: heh, right. Your preaching to the choir, as they say [12:40] which means, I agree [12:40] :) [12:41] :) [12:42] i have to remember that a lot of 'local sayings' do not translate well in a global community [12:46] nigelb: me and cprofitt are both going to be at uds. One goal we have is to explicitly define the Beginners Team membership/mentor process. [12:47] too many of the structures and processes have not kept pace with the group transitioning from a small group of forum contributors, to a multi faceted mentoring team. [12:48] i think that has lead to us being far less efficient then we could be. [12:50] nigelb: blogged it :) [12:51] http://www.theopensourcerer.com/2010/10/22/ubingo/ [12:52] AlanBell, heh, that will be fun [13:21] who is the team lead for Ubuntu stupid and what is their email address? [13:23] studio [13:23] bah [13:23] :) [13:23] :-) [13:23] shouldnt type when reading a mail [13:23] the renaming of Ubuntu studio had me wondering for a few secs [13:23] ScottL: is [13:23] thanks [13:23] scott-work: ScottL [13:24] jussi: whats the email address? [13:24] ha. ubuntu stupid. I thought there was a new team i had not heard of [13:24] 2 secs [13:24] duanedesign: I was going to join it [13:24] jussi: czajkowski: hello, yes? [13:24] :D [13:25] scott-work: kindly give czajkowski your email address [13:25] czajkowski: scottalavender@gmail.com [13:25] aye, jussi [13:25] scott-work: thanks, sending you a mail re a school here in limerick who is using Ubuntu and is now setting up djing classes and creative media studio [13:26] awesome! [13:26] http://learninghub.ie/ [13:26] well it is but they have a guy helping tem set up who is an end user and doesnt have much experience [13:26] they've had woeful doifficulty getting evolution working with their calenders so much so they are back using outlook [13:27] so trying to get them back on the road to Ubuntu [13:34] woo road trip to Orlando begins in T-4 hours - woo hoo! [13:35] akgraner: I really do wish I could be a fly on the wall of that car [13:36] thinking about posting audio and video along the way - this ought to be hilarious... [13:36] hehe [13:36] akgraner: have a safe trip. Looking forward to seeing you there. [13:36] depends of if I can talk the other passengers into it [13:37] duanedesign, thanks! me too when do you arrive? [13:37] akgraner: how far is your drive? [13:37] akgraner: Sunday morning [13:37] * duanedesign looks exactly [13:38] Pendulum, it's a 15 passenger van and I 've been told I have to sit in the very back seat [13:38] 11:15am Sunday [13:38] oh cool [13:38] akgraner: so we are getting together Sunday night (we == crew) [13:38] sorry for lack of question mark [13:39] akgraner: are they worried that they smell or something? [13:39] :P [13:40] duanedesign, I'm not the crew lead czajkowski is, but it's a good idea [13:40] ahh thats right akgraner :P [13:41] duanedesign: the crew site says Wednesday morning. czajkowski doesn't get in until Sunday evening so she may be a little tired at that point [13:41] er... crew wiki [13:44] Pendulum, oh that is right I forgot czajkowski gets in late [13:44] :-/ I don't know if I am coming or going - how sad is it that I am looking forward to UDS so I can have some down time [13:52] * AlanBell adds ubingo to the ubingo word list [14:13] AlanBell, how about ububrat - kids of Ubuntu developers or contributors, ubuorphan - kids who have been ignored by obsessive parents in the pursuit of all things Ubuntu and my favorite - ubuwidow/widower those who have been ignored by obsessive their spouses or significant other(s) in the pursuit of all things Ubuntu [14:13] wait did I say obsessive - I meant dedicated [14:14] hmm, good word, but I can't see it being mentioned in the keynote! [14:14] jussi: ah crap I forgot to tell you [14:15] jussi: we're minus caracao 1 [14:15] but plus a bonaire [14:15] jussi: the list is here: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-n/ [14:16] duanedesugn i mailed all crew to meet sunday evening at 8 [14:20] czajkowski: sounds good [14:29] man AlanBell [14:29] you're missing some key words in your thing [14:29] jcastro: refresh to get more [14:29] what do you think is missing? [14:30] Debian [14:30] Crisp [14:30] Clean [14:30] Tight [14:30] debian is in [14:30] I don't see it [14:30] keep refreshing :) [14:30] OH [14:30] I get it [14:31] Castro is in there too :) [14:33] yeah for some reason he's mentioned me in the past 2 [14:33] It's kind of like the eye of sauron I suppose. :p [14:34] its funny you should say that [14:34] 13:49 http://bit.ly/dzmdVU [14:35] honestly, not made up, directly from my pm logs [14:45] wonder if he wants the ubingo word list to help him prepare for Monday [14:48] i would [14:59] good afternoon [15:00] hi jono [15:02] hey dholbach [15:05] HI HI HI [15:13] AlanBell, I was just throwing those out for in general [15:14] yup, they should be thrown out :) [15:15] jono: wondering about the status of https://blueprints.launchpad.net/gally/+spec/ubuntutheproject-community-n-gally-photoshoot [15:15] and please feel free to tweet about http://ubingo.libertus.co.uk [16:03] AlanBell, does that need a session? [16:18] jono: yes [16:27] whoo Sally passed the Mot :D [16:27] :) [16:27] your car is called sally? [16:28] Mustang Sally? [16:30] Pici: aye [16:30] Pici: she's not a mustang but I asked someone to help me name her and they came up with the name and it stuck [16:31] happy memories of that car [16:31] fun conversations and yummy breakfast [16:31] heh [16:32] I'll go with the yummy breakfast and dodgey conversations [16:32] :) [16:32] dholbach: ping [16:32] washed her out this morning and polished her [16:32] all pretty :D [16:33] dholbach: what do I need to do for Ubuntu to participate in Google's Code In mentoring project? http://code.google.com/opensource/gci/2010-11/index.html [16:34] dholbach: is that something I can just do as a community member? or is there some 'official' channel/approval process? [16:35] dinda, you mean for Ubuntu as a organisation in Google Summer of Code 2011? [16:35] because SoC 2010 is over now [16:36] dholbach: this is a different project, for kids ages 13 - 18 [16:36] aha! [16:36] I didn't even know about it [16:36] dholbach: starts next month an runs through January [16:36] dholbach: http://code.google.com/opensource/gci/2010-11/index.html [16:37] dinda, you could ask randa if she knows anything about it [16:37] dholbach: ok, I've already have six parents ask me about their kids participating! [16:37] nice :) [16:46] AlanBell: according to ajmitch that game means alcohol posioning :p [16:48] depends how many words come up really! [16:48] pleia2: ping [16:53] doctormo: TCP has been purchased [16:56] AlanBell: Also, I'll me missing at least the first 3 days of UDS [17:01] czajkowski: pong [17:03] maco: ping [17:03] highvoltage: ping [17:12] see you all [17:12] have a great weekend! [17:12] dholbach: see you Sunday! [17:12] o/ [17:13] * dholbach hugs you all [17:13] byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee [17:54] ok everyone, see you on saturday or sunday in orlando! If not, see you on the Internets! [18:06] czajkowski: pong [20:07] hiya [20:22] nhandler: whats this askubuntu stuff on the hall of fame that you claim is there? [20:23] maco: are you going to answer that survey from motu point of view ? [20:25] i dont even understand it [20:25] the bullet pointed things at the top and the boldy questions at the bottom arent the same [20:25] theres not even the same number of them [20:25] and it says "new" people [20:26] which also makes me wonder why you ask me [20:26] maco: new to motu [20:26] fair enough [20:27] i dont think im new enough to be able to answer these questions [20:27] if youd asked me in 2008, maybe [20:27] fair enough [20:28] thanks [22:02] jono: in a BP the project what do I add, saying Ubuntu is not helping it keeps saying undefined [22:02] czajkowski, that sentence doesn't make any sense :) [22:02] jono: sorry :( [22:02] lol np [22:03] jono: when creating a blueprint, it says , project , what area do I select as when I type Ubuntu into it. I get back undefined [22:03] The project for which this proposal is being made. [22:04] czajkowski: I ended up with ubuntu-community for the accessibility team. so if it's a loco thing maybe that'll be easiest? [22:04] aye [22:04] used my brain [22:05] well you used to be able to just say "ubuntu" [22:05] * czajkowski needs to think more [22:05] I dunno why that changed [22:05] aye [22:05] I think that's what was confusing me [22:05] granted it is easily done [22:05] jono: sorry! [22:06] czajkowski, hmmm weird [22:07] I am not weird young man [22:08] jono: to make it more complicated if you try to search for "ubuntu" to see if you can find it, you get "too many projects returned" so if there is a way to just say it's "ubuntu" then you can't find it! [22:08] thats no fun [22:08] alrgiht folks, I am out [22:08] later! [22:12] time for some BBT :D [22:13] hmmm...bbt [22:14] beddie bye time :) [22:20] maco: No clue what happened with the HoF. As my screenshot showed, it /was/ working. I'll try and get a hold of dholbach to see what happened (but it might be hard with UDS) [22:26] duanedesign: Big Ban Theory [22:26] *bang [22:48] paultag: you're missing from council channel [22:49] czajkowski: he has problems remembering that, doesn't he/ [22:49] he really does [23:04] GRRR [23:05] xchat does not identify before it tries and joins [23:05] so I end up getting kicked [23:05] get a propper client! [23:06] paultag: Pendulum thinks you have problems remembering us! [23:06] :( [23:06] czajkowski, what do you use? [23:07] irssi breaks for me too [23:07] irssi [23:07] :) [23:07] screen irssi :) [23:08] I did for the longest time [23:08] but it brokeded for me too [23:12] BRB [23:16] paultag: Use the server password field to identify, not that NickServ box that xchat has