[00:06] <jeremydei> latenitess, ah, well that's interesting then, i had the same issue and assumed that it just didn't support that
[00:35] <TERORR> anyone has an idea why my fresh installed ubuntu server ignores rc.local ?
[00:35] <pmatulis> TERORR: can you pastebin it?
[00:36] <TERORR> well i can..
[00:36] <TERORR> but why?
[00:36] <TERORR> even if i deleted everything
[00:36] <TERORR> and just echo bla bla bla
[00:36] <TERORR> doesn't work
[00:36] <pmatulis> TERORR: well, i'm trying to help
[00:37] <TERORR> yes i know sorry i didn't want to be like that
[00:37] <TERORR> it is just frustrating :)
[00:50] <adac> how to check automatically for updates? apt-cron?
[00:56] <xMopx> hi guys, is is possible to run the ubuntu enterprise cloud inside of OpenVZ?
[01:18] <pmatulis> adac: 'sudo aptitude update; sudo aptitude full-upgrade'
[01:18] <pmatulis> adac: actually, you want something else
[01:19] <adac> pmatulis, yeah, i guess apt-cron is the thing i want
[01:21] <RoAkSoAx> sommer: ping
[01:30] <qman__> TERORR, my lucid servers don't ignore rc.local, but it requires tweaking upstart and plymouth to get the output to show on tty1
[01:30] <Pilif12p> I get " fork failed: Cannot allocate memory E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)" when trying to run  sudo apt-get -f install
[01:30] <qman__> I don't remember exactly what I did, probably things you're not supposed to
[01:33] <flyback> did the latest 10.04 lts kernel update seriously *canuck* something up with networking?
[01:34]  * Patrickdk wonders why he still has 8bit isa cards and 10mbit hubs
[01:36]  * flyback has those also
[01:36] <flyback> Patrickdk, whoa hang on
[01:36] <Patrickdk> who needs a 3c502 Etherlink II card?
[01:36] <flyback> what chipset are those
[01:36] <flyback> oh 501/502 is seriously *CANUCKED*
[01:36] <flyback> it can't handle multiple packets such as streaming
[01:36] <Patrickdk> unkno0wn
[01:36] <flyback> do you have any realtek ones?
[01:36] <Patrickdk> I have a 501, freaking thing can't do back to back
[01:36] <Patrickdk> ya, I have realtek
[01:36] <flyback> yep
[01:37] <flyback> 8019as?
[01:37] <flyback> the isa realtek not pci ones
[01:37] <flyback> pci ones are crap
[01:37] <Patrickdk> the 3c509 here too, many of them
[01:37] <flyback> the isa realtek 8019as is good because
[01:37] <flyback> a) it has a 8 bit mode
[01:37] <Patrickdk> only pci realtek
[01:37] <flyback> b) it only requires +5
[01:37] <Patrickdk> and 3com/smc isa
[01:37] <flyback> you can use them with microcontrollers
[01:37] <flyback> such as pic and avr
[01:37] <flyback> ne2000 compatible work also
[01:38] <flyback> but otherwise unless you have isa only boxes, i wouldn't bother
[01:38] <Patrickdk> hmm, unknown 16bit isa card
[01:38] <Patrickdk> cn9003f
[01:38] <flyback> I think I know what that is, hang on
[01:38] <Patrickdk> I think it's ne2000 compat
[01:38] <flyback> ne2000 is the worst btw
[01:38] <flyback> perfprmance and cpu usage wise
[01:39] <flyback> but ok for dos and some embedded projects
[01:39] <flyback> I think you are right
[01:39] <Patrickdk> oh wow, didn't know I had this one, ne2000plus3 Novel
[01:40] <Patrickdk> 3c515? :)
[01:40] <flyback> Patrickdk,
[01:40] <flyback> http://th99.too.it/
[01:40] <flyback> ooooo
[01:40] <flyback> 515 is a isa 100mbit
[01:40] <flyback> KEEPER
[01:40] <flyback> KEEPER
[01:41] <flyback> ISA is only 42mbit it it's still good cause it keeps your switches from running at 10mbit
[01:41] <flyback> keep the 515's
[01:41] <Patrickdk> I haven't owned a isa computer for >10 years
[01:42] <Patrickdk> hmm, around '96 was my last isa slot
[01:42] <Patrickdk> I almost have no pci slot computers left
[01:42] <flyback> heh
[01:42] <Patrickdk> dumping my last one next month
[01:42] <flyback> well like I said keep the 515's and ebay them
[01:42] <flyback> and keep any rtl8019/29as you find
[01:43] <Patrickdk> don't have any
[01:43] <Patrickdk> back then I went after 3com nics
[01:50] <flyback> better choice by far
[01:50] <flyback> :)
[01:53] <aegis> Hi all...  Is LDAP completely screwed up on Lucid?  Mine has fallen apart in the past few weeks and there is no hope of fixing it.  Is there any chance this will be repaired?
[01:58] <aegis> It seems like 10.04 server is a failure with regards to LDAP...  Do you guys know of any distros that actually has LDAP working?
[02:09]  * flyback http://th99.too.it/
[02:13]  * Datz_ notes that is quite the site
[02:13] <flyback> yeah jumpers for almost everything up to pci
[02:44] <Vibedigital> on zabbix get this error: got empty string from [127.0.0.1] Assuming that agent dropped connection because of access permissions. Someone can help?
[02:45] <Vibedigital> trying acess the zabbix server itself
[03:58]  * flyback bbl
[04:23] <Datz> I'm wondering why all the sudden the number of packages that are in need up being updated stopped showing when loggin in.
[04:35] <istevenmon> hi guys where do i make permanent the echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[04:37] <icek> hi i set up a ubuntu-server router, dhcp/nat my internet has been running kinda slow and i dont know which computers are doing what, one could just be going crazy, are there any good tools out there to do network analysis?
[04:37] <icek> the would break it down by ip
[04:37] <icek> or something
[04:43] <Datz> icek: have you looked into wireshark?
[04:44] <icek> ya
[04:44] <icek> i was hopin something a little more
[04:44] <icek> higher-level
[04:44] <icek> analysis
[04:45] <Datz> ah
[04:45] <netritious> icek: you could try physically disconnecting each computer from the network one-by-one to see if it has any affect...just a suggestion
[04:46] <icek> well i have already done wireshark analysis
[04:46] <icek> nothing stands out
[04:46] <icek> i'd just like long term
[04:46] <netritious> might be a faulty cable
[04:46] <icek> analysis
[04:46] <icek> graphing
[04:46] <twb> istevenmon: /etc/sysctl.conf
[04:46] <icek> ?
[04:47] <twb> icek: start by checking the ethernet layer
[04:47] <icek> there is nothing wrong
[04:47] <icek> its just i have too many computers on this network
[04:47] <twb> icek: use mii-tool or ethertool to check that it negotiated 100baseT-FD or so
[04:47] <icek> i just want to do some long term analysis
[04:47] <twb> icek: if you want performance monitoring, try munin or cacti
[04:48] <icek> i am doing cacti
[04:48] <icek> but the graphs seem kinda limited
[04:48] <Datz> icek: if you want long ter...yea.. munin
[04:48] <icek> not too indepth
[04:50] <netritious> icek: you might also want to look into OSSIM, but it's a complete distribution not a package or set of packages
[04:52] <icek> cacti doesnt seem to do much, i cant even figure out how to display like trafic per conection or somethin
[05:17] <aaa000> can you easily run php as a separate fastcgi process w/ apache? or would you have to compile it yourself?
[05:39] <twb> Dunno about *fast*cgi, but there's a php5-cgi package
[05:39] <twb> The normal ways is with mod_php or whatever it's called
[05:45] <jamil_> II have a modem us robotics. how to install in ubuntu??? please...
[05:45] <jamil_> II have a modem us robotics. how to install in ubuntu??? please...
[05:45] <jamil_> I have a modem us robotics. how to install in ubuntu??? please...
[05:45] <jamil_> I have a modem us robotics. how to install in ubuntu??? please...
[05:45] <jamil_> I have a modem us robotics. how to install in ubuntu??? please...
[05:45] <jamil_> I have a modem us robotics. how to install in ubuntu??? please...
[05:45] <jamil_> I have a modem us robotics. how to install in ubuntu??? please...
[05:45] <jamil_> I have a modem us robotics. how to install in ubuntu??? please...
[05:45] <jamil_> I have a modem us robotics. how to install in ubuntu??? please...
[05:45] <jamil_> I have a modem us robotics. how to install in ubuntu??? please...
[05:49] <twb> Such a modem will not have sufficient resources to run Ubuntu.
[05:50] <lifeless> jamil_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[05:57] <styngve> What to do with to much bandwidth, any suggestions?
[05:58] <twb> styngve: bittorrent?
[05:59] <styngve> What do you mean?
[06:02] <Error404NotFound> how i can force tar to change permission/owner/group to the user who is extracting it?
[06:06]  * flyback night
[06:34] <thedittmer> I have a rackspace cloud server with ubuntu. what is the best way to get FTP going?
[06:41] <styngve> Does anybody have suggestions what to do with to much bandwidth ?
[06:43] <styngve> Like put up some type of server or host something
[06:53] <ryan_> Hello
[06:53] <styngve> Hallu
[08:39] <atroxes> Admin Problem. The first time I try to 'cp' a file (8GB) to my LVM+LUKS device after a reboot (both LAN or locally), the 'cp' process stalls and iotop reports 99-100% iowait. This can be reproduced by rebooting and doing 'cp' again. Dmesg reports this about the 'cp' process: rwsem_down_failed_common+0xba/0x130
[08:52] <lau> according to #423252 it is not possible to use ldap+ssl on lucid right ?
[09:02] <remix_tj> bug 423252
[09:02] <remix_tj> ?
[09:02] <remix_tj> i do not know :-)
[09:08] <saravanan> Hi could anyone guide me
[09:08] <saravanan> to install OpenNebula on Ububtu 10.04?
[09:08] <saravanan> any good link do you suggest?
[09:09] <saravanan_> Hi could anyone guide me
[09:10] <saravanan_> to install OpenNebula on Ububtu 10.04?
[09:10] <saravanan_> any good link do you suggest?
[09:10] <saravanan_> or documentation?
[09:10] <saravanan_> i ahad been searching for the same..
[09:10] <saravanan_> please help out
[09:14] <twister004> >	hi guys... i've setup a bridged- openvpn server on my ubuntu box(tap0 and br0)....My client connects to the server, gets an IP on the same subnet as the server, but is unsb\\able to ping/access any of the machines(including the server)... please advise what could be the cause... thanks in advance!!
[09:14] <twister004> **but is unable**
[09:36] <burntoutlamp> hi peeps. I am new to installing lamop servers and I was following this guide right here: http://library.linode.com/lamp-guides/ubuntu-10.04-lucid/ I did all the steps and pointed my url to the ip address and I et 404 not found but I do see apache server so the url goes to my apache server... but it does not see the index.html file. help!! and thank you! :)
[09:39] <burntoutlamp> I guess maybe I should ask, do I save it to the public_html directory or elsewhere? do I have to have some sort of ftp client or is it ok to upload to the directory on the server itself?
[09:39] <burntoutlamp> I don't know. :( *cries*
[09:39] <_Techie_> burntoutlamp, dont cry
[09:40] <_Techie_> burntoutlamp, files for your root webhost are stored in /var/www/
[09:40] <burntoutlamp> ohhh so if I move my index.html file there it should work?
[09:40] <_Techie_> yes
[09:41] <burntoutlamp> yaaaay!!! :D :D I'm almost there and it's my very first time XD *explodes*
[09:41] <_Techie_> well, congratulations
[09:41] <_Techie_> i hope you enjoy your time working with linux servers
[09:43] <burntoutlamp> hmmm I stored the file in /var/www but it didn't work :(
[09:43] <_Techie_> whats the error?
[09:43] <burntoutlamp> 404 not found
[09:45] <burntoutlamp> I set document root as /srv/www/myurl.com/public_html/ so I put the index.html page there and it didn't work either :(
[09:46] <_Techie_> does the folder /srv/ exist?
[09:46] <burntoutlamp> yuppers
[09:47] <_Techie_> hrmm'
[09:47] <burntoutlamp> I know right? :(
[09:47] <_Techie_> one sec
[09:47] <burntoutlamp> thanks _Techie_ yr awesome
[09:48] <_Techie_> sudo chmod 774 /srv/www/myurl.com/public_html -R
[09:48] <_Techie_> also make sure that you have restarted apache after modifying the sites-available files
[09:48] <burntoutlamp> ooohhhhh!!! the unix permissions !_!
[09:49] <_Techie_> sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[09:50] <burntoutlamp> owner and group can rwx and guests can read yeah?
[09:50] <_Techie_> yep
[09:50] <burntoutlamp> blerg
[09:50] <eagles0513875|2> _Techie_: shouldnt the owner and group be the apache server
[09:50] <eagles0513875|2> the www-data group and owner
[09:50] <_Techie_> eagles0513875|2, why do you think i set other to read access
[09:51] <eagles0513875|2> not following :(
[09:51] <eagles0513875|2> the caht thats why i said
[09:51] <eagles0513875|2> ill just shut up
[09:51] <_Techie_> hehe
[09:51] <burntoutlamp> I understood XD
[09:51] <_Techie_> burntoutlamp, btw, this is eagles0513875|2, i work on some servers with him
[09:52] <burntoutlamp> hi guys!
[09:52] <_Techie_> wave eagles0513875|2
[09:52] <eagles0513875|2> o/ hai burntoutlamp
[09:52] <burntoutlamp> XD
[09:52] <eagles0513875|2> lol _Techie_ stop reading my mind
[09:52] <burntoutlamp> I am new
[09:52] <eagles0513875|2> working on setting dovecot and post fix again on my server _Techie_
[09:52] <eagles0513875|2> burntoutlamp: welcome welcome
[09:52] <_Techie_> ... again
[09:52] <eagles0513875|2> ya
[09:52] <burntoutlamp> today I am going for a job at work to do this stuff. I just got my brain around samba shares and set one up for my company
[09:53] <eagles0513875|2> had some authentication issues which i couldnt fix
[09:53] <eagles0513875|2> im goign to set it up to use imaps
[09:53] <eagles0513875|2> that way i can use plain text authenticatin
[09:53] <eagles0513875|2> authentication
[09:53] <eagles0513875|2> burntoutlamp: kool :)
[09:53] <_Techie_> eagles0513875|2, you do know once a grave is 6 ft you can stop digging
[09:53] <burntoutlamp> ya so I'm a n00bs but getting into it fast. you guys are awesome btw
[09:53] <eagles0513875|2> _Techie_: ya but what ya getting at
[09:54] <eagles0513875|2> :) thanks burntoutlamp granted i havent helped at all
[09:54] <burntoutlamp> ok well mostly _Techie_ but I want to be nice and you seem nice too :) you guys are funny :)
[09:54] <eagles0513875|2> lol
[09:54] <_Techie_> hehe
[09:54] <eagles0513875|2> _Techie_: question can i configure dovecot to just use imaps or do i need to have it use both?
[09:55] <_Techie_> you can configure just imaps
[09:55] <eagles0513875|2> ok kool
[09:55] <_Techie_> if you want to cheat rather than configure, sudo apt-get purge dovecot-imap
[09:55] <_Techie_> wait now
[09:55] <_Techie_> no*
[09:55] <eagles0513875|2> _Techie_:
[09:56] <eagles0513875|2> you cant do taht
[09:56] <_Techie_> dovecot-pop3*
[09:56] <burntoutlamp> blerg! still didn't work :(
[09:56] <eagles0513875|2> ubuntu has them split _Techie_
[09:56] <_Techie_> or pop, i forget
[09:56] <eagles0513875|2> you have dovecot-pop3 package and dovecot -imapd package you dont have to install both
[09:56] <eagles0513875|2> hey kim0
[09:56] <eagles0513875|2> you can but they arent depended on each other
[09:56] <_Techie_> this i already know
[09:56] <eagles0513875|2> i just have the imap package installed
[09:57] <_Techie_> i was going on a judgement call that you had installed both
[09:57] <eagles0513875|2> ahh
[09:57] <eagles0513875|2> lol u assumed and made an ass out of u and me :p _Techie_
[09:57] <_Techie_> burntoutlamp, did you restart apache after modifying the config files?
[09:57] <burntoutlamp> yup definately
[09:57] <_Techie_> eagles0513875|2, didnt have to try to make you an ass
[09:57] <eagles0513875|2> haha
[09:57] <eagles0513875|2> touche
[09:58] <burntoutlamp> oh hang on
[09:58] <burntoutlamp> it says that piblic_html doesn't exist.... but it does exst! :(
[09:58] <burntoutlamp> I set the permissions recusively on it no probs
[09:58] <_Techie_> uh oh
[09:58] <burntoutlamp> and I see it!!!
[09:58] <_Techie_> *phew*
[09:58]  * burntoutlamp pokes folder
[09:59] <burntoutlamp> it's right there why don't you see it...
[09:59]  * burntoutlamp cries
[09:59] <_Techie_> i always get scared when i see someone get +o when im talking offtopic
[09:59] <_Techie_> burntoutlamp, check your config files and make sure you set the documentroot perfectly
[10:01] <eagles0513875|2> same here
[10:01] <eagles0513875|2> oh wait i didnt realize we were in ubuntu server channel lol thought we were in our channel _Techie_
[10:01] <_Techie_> bwah ha ha ha ha
[10:02] <_Techie_> you didnt even notice that it was pretty crowded
[10:02] <burntoutlamp> I opps do I have to set all that stuff in the default-ssl file too?
[10:02] <eagles0513875|2> _Techie_: nub question do i need to have ssl to use imaps ?
[10:02] <_Techie_> burntoutlamp, only if using SSL
[10:02] <burntoutlamp> ya I'm not :(
[10:02] <_Techie_> eagles0513875|2, hell no
[10:02] <eagles0513875|2> ok
[10:03] <_Techie_> i use non SSL imap on Orannis
[10:03] <_Techie_> not even TLS
[10:03] <eagles0513875|2> ok yet your still using imaps no
[10:03] <_Techie_> ya
[10:04] <eagles0513875|2> kool
[10:04] <_Techie_> omg wtf, just put my elbow up against my pocket zip and i swear it vibrated
[10:04] <eagles0513875|2> lol
[10:05] <burntoutlamp> doh!!! sorry _Techie_  I see the error of my ways @_@ typo...
[10:05] <_Techie_> burntoutlamp, thats alright, no need to apologise
[10:06] <_Techie_> on the other hand, if it was eagles0513875|2 here, id be expecting a 2 page essay, double sided
[10:06] <eagles0513875|2> lol
[10:06] <eagles0513875|2> offtopic much
[10:06] <_Techie_> !ot | _Techie_
[10:08] <saravanan> Hi could anyone point me a good documentation to install OpenNebula on Ububtu 10.04?
[10:08] <twister004> hi guys... i've setup a bridged- openvpn server on my ubuntu box(tap0 and br0)....My client connects to the server, gets an IP on the same subnet as the server, but is unable to ping/access any of the machines(including the server)... please advise what could be the cause... thanks in advance!!
[10:08] <twister004> i need some help here please.. not sure what's going on...
[10:09] <_Techie_> saravanan, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenNebula
[10:09] <burntoutlamp> BLERG now I get 403 but set thepermissions and and and restarted ARGH! *rips a few hairs out*
[10:12] <burntoutlamp> im going to try 777 if 777 doesn't work houston has a problem lol XD
[10:13] <_Techie_> yeah
[10:14] <_Techie_> burntoutlamp, if that doesnt work, then we can start pastebinning files
[10:14] <burntoutlamp> yay works not
[10:14] <burntoutlamp> now
[10:14] <_Techie_> congrats
[10:15] <burntoutlamp> thanks!
[10:15] <_Techie_> i have an idea
[10:15] <_Techie_> sudo chown www-data:www-data /srv/www -R
[10:15] <burntoutlamp> tho I don't think I can leave it 777 lol but it'll work for right now
[10:15] <_Techie_> then you should be able to set it back to 774
[10:15] <burntoutlamp> ahh I see set the owner and group
[10:15] <burntoutlamp> as www-data
[10:16] <_Techie_> =)
[10:16] <_Techie_> you catch on really fast
[10:16] <burntoutlamp> hmmm kay I see what you are doing
[10:16] <eagles0513875|2> yes and you wouldnt have to touch the permissions at all  :)
[10:16] <burntoutlamp> sure do _Techie_ :)
[10:19] <kim0> eagles0513875|2: howdy
[10:19] <burntoutlamp> BLAM! (chooses to only use exclaim words from Dog the Bounty Hunter) It worked! :) you're my favorite!
[10:19] <eagles0513875|2> hi kim0
[10:19] <kim0> hey there
[10:19] <eagles0513875|2> whats up
[10:19] <kim0> All going good
[10:19] <kim0> eagles0513875|2: you pinged me :)
[10:20] <eagles0513875|2> i did
[10:20] <eagles0513875|2> O_o
[10:20] <eagles0513875|2> possibly tab fail :( on my part apologies
[10:20] <kim0> eagles0513875|2: no problemo "10:56 #ubuntu-server: < eagles0513875|2> hey kim0"
[10:21] <eagles0513875|2> oh
[10:21] <eagles0513875|2> i forgot what i wanted lol
[10:21] <kim0> hehehe
[10:21] <_Techie_> you were saying hi, i think
[10:21] <eagles0513875|2> actually yes thats what it was hehe
[10:21]  * eagles0513875|2 waves to kim
[10:21]  * kim0 waves back :)
[10:22] <_Techie_> awww puppy love
[10:22] <_Techie_> so cute
[10:25] <droogie> One of my virtual machines won't start anymore, libvirt / apparmor is complaining about monitor socket not showing up. The error message from the logs are "libvir: Security Labeling error : error calling aa_change_profile()
[10:25] <droogie> "; anyone got any ideas on how to fix this?
[11:08] <saravanan> hi alll
[11:09] <_Techie_> hello saravanan
[11:31] <klaas> I got a question that may be a little offtopic -- :) I got a project from my university where I have to calculate prime numbers and I'm looking to use the unused resources at my univerity - whats a good framework for cloud/distributed services that I could use?
[11:33] <burntoutlamp> blerg!!! can anyone help? working on a LAMP stack and I keep getting a timeout error
[11:33] <burntoutlamp> i set the ip address and everything
[11:33] <burntoutlamp> I can get to OTHER sites on the net
[12:50] <david506> I ran apt-get purge openvpn and rm -fr /usr/share/doc    Now that I reinstalled openvpn, the easy-rsa folder isn't reinstalled. What do I do to get that back ?
[12:51] <pmatulis> david506: why did you remove /usr/share/doc ?
[12:51] <david506> wait
[12:51] <david506> never mind, it's there. I was looking in the wrong folder :P
[12:51] <david506> it's in /usr/share/doc/openvpn/examples/ and I was looking at /usr/share/doc/openvpn
[12:51] <david506> sorry to have wasted your time
[13:14] <BK_man> hi all. Just installed 10.10 Server and can't login using ssh - after providing a valid password I only see "Last login: ..." as a last string. No shell prompt at all. Please help!
[13:15] <pmatulis> BK_man: can you log in at the console?
[13:15] <BK_man> pmatulis: yep. As non-root user
[13:16] <pmatulis> BK_man: check the logs (auth.log)
[13:16] <BK_man> pmatulis: after that I can do "sudo su -"
[13:16] <BK_man> ok
[13:18] <BK_man> Khm... "Address 172.20.0.1 maps to localhost...". It's an IP address from which I tried to log in. What does this mean?
[13:19] <pmatulis> BK_man: probably your /etc/hosts file is misconfigured
[13:21] <BK_man> pmatulis: No, it's ok. 127.0.0.1 as localhost, My host's IP address (172.20.102.13) and IPv6 stuff
[13:21] <jpds> BK_man: Do you have an egress firewall?
[13:23] <thedittmer> I think I have FTP running on my server. How do I make sure? Also, how do I connect to it. Do I have to give a user privileges or something.
[13:23] <BK_man> jpds: system was just installed
[13:23] <BK_man> jpds: no changes were made
[13:23] <pmatulis> BK_man: on the server do 'host 172.20.0.1'
[13:25] <BK_man> pmatulis: connection timed out to DNS..
[13:25] <thedittmer> can someone help me get FTP working. I'm on a rackspace cloud server.
[13:25] <BK_man> pmatulis: turned iptables completely off (iptables -F)
[13:26] <BK_man> pmatulis: still can't login - no shell prompt
[13:27] <thedittmer> when I type "start vsftpd" it says"start: Job is already running: vsftpd"
[13:27] <thedittmer> so I think I have it installed. Now how do I connect to it with my FTP application.
[13:27] <tapoxi> Is there anything preventing me from using a static IP? After configuring /etc/network/interfaces, it works okay *for a while* then starts dropping my ssh connections, eventually not responding to ping. Is there something making it get an address from DHCP?
[13:28] <tapoxi> I'm on 10.10
[13:28] <pmatulis> tapoxi: do you have a graphical environment?
[13:30] <tapoxi> pmatulis: No. X isn't installed.
[13:31] <pmatulis> BK_man: can you ping the server from your client machine?
[13:31] <BK_man> pmatulis: yep
[13:33] <pmatulis> BK_man: maybe kill the ssh service and run it debug mode
[13:33] <pmatulis> BK_man: try 'sudo sshd -Ddd'
[13:33] <BK_man> pmatulis: It's very strange. I can log on if I press Ctrl+C several times
[13:34] <pmatulis> BK_man: you can log in via ssh now?
[13:34] <BK_man> pmatulis: I'm rebooting my blade server at the moment
[13:39] <BK_man> Damn! Guys, are there any problems with bnx2 driver?
[13:39] <jpds> BK_man: What kind of problems?
[13:39] <BK_man> I was able to log in, but now my session freezes afrer some time
[13:42] <thedittmer> so now I know I have FTP running. So how do I connect to it? Do I create a new user and give the user privliges
[13:42] <pmatulis> thedittmer: depends how you configured the server.  try just connecting using existing system user credentials
[13:42] <thedittmer> I only have root
[13:43] <pmatulis> thedittmer: that's not possible
[13:43] <pmatulis> thedittmer: you need to create a user during the install
[13:44] <thedittmer> I'm using a rackspace cloud server. After the setup I got an email with a password. I was told to use root as the user
[13:45] <pmatulis> BK_man: is there anything strange in dmesg output referring to 'bnx2'?
[13:45] <thedittmer> pmatulis: im logged in through ssh as root right now. Can't I just create a user?
[13:45] <pmatulis> thedittmer: yes
[13:45] <thedittmer> pmatulis: how?
[13:46] <pmatulis> thedittmer: 'adduser pmatulis'
[13:46] <pmatulis> :)
[13:48] <thedittmer> pmatulis: YES!!!!! Thank you so much!!!!
[13:48] <pmatulis> thedittmer: keep on truckin'
[13:50] <thedittmer> pmatulis: at some point last night I created a mysql database. How do I find out what I called it? LOL
[13:51] <pmatulis> thedittmer: can you connect to the server with the mysql command?
[13:51] <thedittmer> pmatulis: I don't know the command
[13:52] <thedittmer> I'm just trying to get wordpress running
[13:52] <pmatulis> thedittmer: you really need to do some reading
[13:53] <pmatulis> thedittmer: 'mysql' is the command, did you set up authentication for the root user?
[13:54] <thedittmer> pmatulis: no. I just typed "mysql" and it came back Assess denied for user 'root@localhost' (user password: NO)
[13:55] <pmatulis> thedittmer: you never set up a p/w when you installed mysql-server?
[13:58] <thedittmer> pmatulis: I don't think so. I really don't know that was six hours ago.
[13:59] <BK_man> Khm. Another installation problem - what means "can't allocate protected mode pages"? Immediately after pressing Enter on "Install Ubuntu server" option
[14:01] <lau> which tool do you use in order to set samba{LM,NT}Password entries on your LDAP and avoid smbpasswd on the samba machine ?
[14:01] <lau> mkntpwd is no more present in samba package
[14:02] <lau> and I am getting a session setup failed: NT_STATUS_PASSWORD_MUST_CHANGE when trying to smbclient -U ldap_user
[14:02] <pmatulis> BK_man: you're installing another machine?
[14:07] <BK_man> pmatulis: correct. Old one was IBM HS21, a new one is HS22 - UEFI-based
[14:16] <BK_man> pmatulis: RHEL5.5 installation started ok on that blade
[14:17] <pmatulis> BK_man: so maybe controller is not supported?  what does it have?
[14:18] <BK_man> pmatulis: what controller? it can't load installer kernel
[14:19] <atroxes> HAPPY INTERNATIONAL CAPS LOCK DAY!
[14:20] <pmatulis> no no
[14:26] <twb> atroxes: plonk.
[14:29] <aegis> HAPPY INTERNATIONAL CAPS LOCK DAY!
[14:29] <ksx4system> YA RLY!!! HAPPY CAPSLOCK DAY!!!111ONEONEELEVEN :D
[14:32] <zul> Daviey: can i take tgt off your hands?
[14:35] <aegis> NEW BUGS???  OHHHH NOOOO!
[14:42] <tapoxi> can a server be haunted
[14:42] <david506> tapoxi. I've had spiders living in servers, does that count?
[14:43] <patdk-wk> can a house be haunted?
[14:44] <patdk-wk> and I guess before we go there, do ghosts exist?
[14:44] <david506> What is the meaning of life ?
[14:44] <patdk-wk> 42 :)
[14:44] <jpds> tapoxi: Rootkit?
[14:45] <david506> We had a gentoo box that was compromised, and it was never the same afterwards. I reinstalled it and put ubuntu. That resolved my 'haunting' issues.
[14:46] <david506> Sometimes you might have some old settings you forgot about that can cause 'haunting' like problems, especially in places like iptables and apparmorr
[14:46] <david506> So I am trying to setup IP masquerading
[14:46] <david506> Trouble is the public interface is an alias "venet0:0"
[14:47] <david506> So iptables says "Warning: weird character in interface `venet0:0' (No aliases, :, ! or *)."
[14:48] <patdk-wk> :0 isn't an interface :)
[14:48]  * patdk-wk spanks david, aliases don't really exist, and having for awhile
[14:49] <david506> right, but the public IP is on that interface
[14:49] <BK_man> Damn! Grub is broken for UEFI-based servers in 10.10. It needs to be patched: http://www.mail-archive.com/grub-devel@gnu.org/msg15356.html
[14:51] <aegis> tapoxi: yes
[14:56] <aegis> grub2 is ridiculous
[14:56] <flyback> you know what is more rediculous
[14:57] <flyback> STUPID CANUCKS
[14:57] <flyback> STUPID CANUCKS
[14:57]  * flyback bites aegis 
[15:01] <david506> ok, I am going to use public IPs on my VPN subnet. I have 1 server and 1 client, what size subnet do I have to order from my service provider.
[15:02] <david506> a /29 or a /30 ?
[15:02] <david506> hmm
[15:02] <david506> I could test it with a private IP :)
[15:03] <david506> "Options error: --server directive when used with --dev tun must define a subnet of 255.255.255.248 (/29) or lower
[15:03] <david506> "
[15:03] <david506> :)
[15:04] <aegis> FLYBACK YOU NO LIKE CANADIANS?
[15:05] <rneese_> Canucks what about us Canucks
[15:05] <flyback> no
[15:05] <david506> what a stupid name "canucks". Citizens of Canada are called "Canadians"
[15:05] <david506> or "Canadiens" in french
[15:05] <flyback> you will pay for "earth final conflict" and other canadian acts of terrorism!
[15:05] <david506> At least Canada isn't a police state like the states
[15:06] <flyback> alannis moresette naked in her "thank you" video, KILLED MORE AMERICAN MEN THAN 911
[15:06] <flyback> damn eh-holes
[15:06] <flyback> j/k :P
[15:06] <flyback> I think I know aegis from a few yrs ago, why I brought this up
[15:06] <flyback> my old nicks were fishhead/i8086/leechie/darkbread
[15:08] <david506> isn't amazing how you can judge an entire country by a single music video by a single singer whom most people don't even like ?
[15:09] <flyback> dude
[15:09] <flyback> EARTH TO DENSE OE
[15:09] <flyback> ONE
[15:09] <flyback> IT'S A JOKE
[15:09] <flyback> canada and us have a friendly rivalry :)
[15:09] <aegis> HAHAHAHA
[15:09] <aegis> HAPPY INTERNATIONAL CAPS LOCK DAY!
[15:10] <flyback> BITE MY "CANUCK".................CANUCK!
[15:10]  * flyback headbutts aegis 
[15:10] <hggdh> flyback: please stop
[15:10] <flyback> ok :P
[15:10] <hggdh> aegis: please stop
[15:10] <flyback> but seriously
[15:10]  * RoyK blames canada
[15:11] <flyback> did 10.04lts foul up the latest kernel update
[15:11] <flyback> at least with all realtek nics
[15:11] <aegis> YOU LOOK ALL C00L WITH A CANUCK IN YOUR MOUTH.
[15:11] <flyback> aegis stop
[15:11] <hggdh> !ops > aegis
[15:11] <flyback> I don't wanbt to see you get banned :/
[15:11] <rYOk> hAPPY cAPS lOCK DAY
[15:11] <flyback> they asked nicely after all
[15:12] <aegis> i didn't know there was a problem
[15:13] <aegis> someone tried to give me ops though
[15:13] <hggdh> well, now you know. I did not try, I asked ops to deal with you.
[15:13] <rYOk> caps lock day is always a problem (for some people)
[15:14] <hggdh> no, it was notthe caps lock day, it was aegis behaviour
[15:14] <david506> In Ubuntu 10.04 LTS for desktops, you can disable caps lock entirely. One of the best features available!
[15:14] <gentooxer> :)
[15:14] <aegis> ohhh, i'd rather just have ops honestly.
[15:15] <david506> Is there any good use of the caps lock key ?
[15:15] <rYOk> david506: throwing it at people
[15:15] <aegis> today you could use it
[15:15] <rYOk> it's a bit light, though
[15:15] <flyback> HAHAHAHAHAA
[15:15]  * flyback tosses david506 a cold redbull
[15:15] <flyback> good one
[15:15] <aegis> you could send them all to canada?
[15:16] <david506> I drank redbull once, I fell asleep.
[15:17] <aegis> imagine getting thousands of those keys sent to you...
[15:19] <aegis> Ubuntu Prego Panda
[15:22] <aegis>  <hggdh> wants you to know: Help! Channel emergency! soren, lamont, mathiaz or tom
[15:22] <flyback> whoa
[15:22] <flyback> holy shit
[15:22] <flyback> soren is here
[15:22] <flyback> wonder if it's the same one I used to know
[15:23] <aegis> thats sauron
[15:26] <flyback> ugh
[15:26] <flyback> that's what else I forgot to order
[15:26] <flyback> "finger condoms"
[15:26] <flyback> for precision/optics/electronics/data recovery/ work
[15:27] <david506> I use every key on my keyboard each day, except caps lock
[15:28] <IdleOne> !guidlelines | flyback aegis david506
[15:28] <IdleOne> !guidelines | flyback aegis david506
[15:28] <flyback> IdleOne, dude wtf I stopped about the canadian bashing after they asked already
[15:29] <david506> ok, if I use tun, it requires at least a /29. But using tap, I can use a /30. So that means that I waste less IPs.
[15:29] <IdleOne> flyback: didn't see that sorry but still worth a reminder :)
[15:30] <david506> Stupid virtual server doesn't let my play with iptables, devices, loop device etc... Arg :(
[15:30] <rYOk> david506: vserver?
[15:30] <rYOk> a 'true' virtual server will let you do anything
[15:31] <david506> Yes, they are using something called vizuello
[15:31] <david506> Virtuozzo*
[15:31] <david506> But it's right for my budget :)
[15:31] <rYOk> that's like vserver - not really true virtualization
[15:32] <flyback> rYOk, is correct
[15:33] <david506> I have some real servers in my main installation, and have about 20 virtual servers using true virtualization. Should I be using vservers instead? I like dividing the servers because it makes it easier to isolate untrusted software.
[15:33] <flyback> yep it does
[15:33]  * flyback bought a used 1u opteron dual for $100 on ebay for home
[15:33] <flyback> going to use vm's for compiling embedded sw etc
[15:33] <flyback> rather than trying to get cross compilers, the right libs, etc all in one os
[15:34] <flyback> it's like canuck-it and just use vm's disk space is not that expensive ;)
[15:34] <flyback> I don't care if it's a bit slower, it's stable and will eventually finish in the background
[15:34] <flyback> won't be interrupted etc
[15:35]  * patdk-wk wonders why anyone would buy a 1u computer for home
[15:35] <flyback> I will defintely use ubuntu-server in some of my vm's
[15:35] <patdk-wk> they just make way too much noise
[15:35] <flyback> i'm an aspie
[15:35] <flyback> I love the noise
[15:35] <flyback> it drowns out house creeks, grandma, etc
[15:36] <flyback> besides, she has a huge basement, like 50-100 foot long I can put it at the other end if the noise gets to me
[15:36] <flyback> i'm going to replace the cpu's soon
[15:36] <flyback> either just 2 single cores again or two dual cores but - revision-E silicon
[15:37] <flyback> which allows you to do 64 bit vm's without vt/amd-v
[15:37] <flyback> least in vsphere
[15:38] <david506> I ordered a /30, which gives me two public IPs, can I route across a private network ?
[15:41] <twb> david506: I don't understand the question.
[15:41] <patdk-wk> heh? a /30 normally only gives you 1 ip
[15:42] <david506> hang on
[15:42] <jpds> I think it's actually 4.
[15:42] <david506> it's 4, but the first and last are netid/broadcaast
[15:42] <patdk-wk> yes 4, 1 network, 1 broadcast, 1 gateway, 1 usable :)
[15:42] <twb> A /30 is 4 address, of which one is the network and one is the broadcast and one is the gateway.
[15:43] <jpds> https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/CIDR#Prefix_aggregation
[15:43] <david506> I am going to use some IPs for argument sake, these are not the real IPs.
[15:43] <lau> how do you sync your posix and samba passwd with passwd cmd ?
[15:43] <lau> users being managed in an ldap server
[15:44] <david506> So I have a machine with eth0 1.0.0.1 and eth 1 192.168.2.2, a second machine with eth1 2.0.0.1, eth0 192.168.2.1, and a a third with eth0 2.0.0.2.  where 2.0.0.1 is the /30
[15:44] <david506> will this routing scheme work? I think so, but just to be sure
[15:44] <rYOk> david506: I'd stick to rfc1918 addresses if I were you
[15:44] <david506> the 1.0.0.1 and 2.0.0.1 represent the IPs that they are going to be assigning me, so as not to confuse it with private IPs
[15:45] <rYOk> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_network
[15:45] <rYOk> ah
[15:45] <rYOk> ok
[15:45] <patdk-wk> I would just use real ip's
[15:45] <patdk-wk> I don't see why people think it's important to hide it
[15:45] <patdk-wk> ip's are public info anyways
[15:45] <twb> lau: that only works if unix root has the ldap root binddn and bindpw
[15:45] <flyback> not so much hide patdk-lap
[15:45] <david506> so, would this work? This would let me have a public IP on the third machine, without wasting IPs on the middle man
[15:46] <flyback> but put them behind a firewall or scanning proxy etc
[15:46] <flyback> also we are close to running out of ip's
[15:46] <david506> No, but they cost money :P
[15:46] <david506> I have a very tight budget ok ?
[15:46] <flyback> unless more founding companies release some blocks
[15:46] <flyback> i'm on your side david506
[15:46] <david506> they say we will run out of IPs next fall ( november 2011 )
[15:46] <twb> david506: they've said that for ten years
[15:46] <rYOk> IPv6 FTW
[15:47] <rYOk> twb: not as specific as they were in the last report
[15:47] <flyback> I don't see how ipv6 is really going to take off
[15:47] <flyback> since it's going to break a lot of existing stuff
[15:47] <flyback> although backend stuff that isn't on the web doesn't matter
[15:47] <rYOk> it'll coexist with ipv4 for years
[15:48] <twb> flyback: it "breaks stuff" about as much as gopher vs. http
[15:48] <flyback> twb that's not the same
[15:48] <jpds> flyback: Well, fix it.
[15:48] <twb> flyback: all it means is that border hosts need to know how to deal with both, and eventually one of the two will win
[15:48] <twb> It's not a lot more painful than the existing NAT bullshit
[15:49]  * rYOk goes back to IPX
[15:49] <patdk-wk> you don't think ipv8 will replace it all?
[15:49] <patdk-wk> :)
[15:49] <twb> patdk-wk: RFC?
[15:49] <david506> ok. I think it'll work, I just think that I am not clearly explaining what I want to try
[15:49] <patdk-wk> ipx had lots of growing space :)
[15:49] <david506> What about AppletTalk ?
[15:49] <lau> twd: my /etc/ldap.conf includes rootbinddn user with correct privilege
[15:49] <rYOk> patdk-wk: yeah, and SAP/RIP broadcasts :)
[15:50] <twb> david506: you want an SNAT rule in your *nat :POSTROUTING chain.
[15:50] <rYOk> david506: not routable IIRC
[15:50] <lau> but how tell ldap to sync sambaLM / NT password when POSIX one change ?
[15:50] <twb> lau: and /etc/ldap.secret contains the rootbinpw/
[15:50] <lau> bug 82853
[15:50] <twb> lau: oh, that.  I don't know.
[15:50] <lau> how do you sync your password in ldap ?
[15:51] <twb> lau: I just use the ppolicy overlay (instead of nis.schema), and I don't have samba in my prison
[15:51] <lau> ok
[15:51] <twb> I think other people I know who do, use smbldaptools (instead of passwd)
[15:52] <patdk-wk> rfc 246810
[15:52] <patdk-wk> hmm, ipv8 and ipv16
[15:52] <patdk-wk> have to look into those sometime
[15:52] <patdk-wk> I just said it as a joke :)
[15:53] <twb> It's not a joke unless it offends someone
[15:53] <patdk-wk> doesn't all of these new ip's offent ipv4 address sellers? :)
[15:54] <patdk-wk> I love that ipv8 rfc :)
[15:55] <RoyK> ipv8 is a bit like http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2550
[15:56] <JamesPage> smoser: have you got 10 to discuss EC2 AMI testing? (and sessions for UDS)
[15:58] <smoser> I do !
[15:58] <smoser> JamesPage,
[15:58] <smoser> :)
[15:58]  * smoser starts his clock
[15:58] <smoser> whats up ?
[15:58] <JamesPage> just doing a quick review of my blueprints for next week.
[15:58] <JamesPage> https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/cloud-server-n-automated-testing
[15:59] <JamesPage> I pulled in a discussion topic from the ideas pool for automating EC2 testing.
[15:59] <JamesPage> However I'm not familiar with what we currently do.....
[16:00] <JamesPage> My thoughts where whether we could do anything similar to what mathiaz and I did for Maverick and ISO testing.....
[16:00] <JamesPage> Using Hudson to control and report of testing...
[16:00] <JamesPage> understand that you are the man in this area so would value your opinion.
[16:01] <JamesPage> any thoughts?
[16:05] <JamesPage> smoser?
[16:05] <smoser> sorry
[16:05] <smoser> i had gone a way. i credit you 4 minutes :)
[16:05] <smoser> reading
[16:07] <smoser> JamesPage, what we currently do is run the automated tests from https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-on-ec2/ubuntu-on-ec2/ec2-test/
[16:07] <smoser> i am *very* interested in getting some better tests
[16:07] <smoser> so whatever i can do to help that along, let me know.
[16:08] <JamesPage> what sort of thing do they currently cover?
[16:10] <smoser> its primarily only "does it come up" and be generally functional
[16:11] <smoser> further tests can easily be added, once the plumbing is there. once the instance is up and running its easy to add things to it
[16:12] <JamesPage> OK some some of the work we did for ISO testing (i.e. running tests once the instance is running) could work really well.
[16:12] <JamesPage> It would also be cool to plumb in the execution and test reporting to Hudson to make it accessible
[16:12] <mathiaz> JamesPage: I agree
[16:13] <mathiaz> JamesPage: AMIs are also published on a daily basis
[16:13] <mathiaz> JamesPage: so being able to test them automatically would also be helpful
[16:13] <robbiew> ttx: fyi...canonicaladmin is no happy with Server team ;)
[16:13] <mathiaz> JamesPage: the same way as -server daily isos are automaticaly tested
[16:13] <JamesPage> mathiaz, smoser: so we could potentially automatically test them as soon as they are published using triggers
[16:14]  * mathiaz nods
[16:14] <JamesPage> mathiaz: hope someone has a credit card with a high limit :-)
[16:15] <JamesPage> smoser: would you be able to attend cloud-server-n-automated-testing; think you knowledge of what we do today will be important
[16:16] <smoser> JamesPage, i will absolutely attend.
[16:16] <JamesPage> smoser: excellent!
[16:33] <twb> Suppose I have an centralized ldap/krb auth
[16:33] <twb> Suppose I also have a legacy system (let's say a SCO4 box) that can only do NIS.
[16:33] <twb> Can I set up a NIS slave pointing at an LDAP master?
[16:34] <twb> I suppose this is really a question for #openldap.
[16:34] <dv_> hello
[16:34] <dv_> my VM starts chef-solo when booting,
[16:34] <dv_> however chef-solo doesnt use an upstart script, just a regular init.d one
[16:35] <dv_> and it doesnt wait until the networking is set up
[16:35] <dv_> -> chef starts, and the chef scripts fail because they try to access the net, while dhclient is trying to get an IP address
[16:35] <dv_> any ideas how to force chef to wait until networking is done?
[16:36] <twb> Required-Start: $network?
[16:37] <dv_> hm. # Required-Start:     $remote_fs $network heartbeat
[16:37] <twb> ...except that upstart ignores LSB headers at the moment
[16:37] <dv_> oh :O
[16:37] <twb> If it isn't already, move it to... S40?
[16:37] <twb> IIRC traditionally 20 is disk and 40 is network
[16:38] <dv_> uh, its in rc1.d, rc2.d, rc3.d, .... rc6.d
[16:38] <twb> But I bet upstart ignores that, too, and they'll tell you to "just rewrite it as an upstart job"
[16:38] <twb> dv_: yes, and IN THERE it will have a prefix to control its location in the boot sequence
[16:38] <dv_> so rename it to S40 in each directory?
[16:39] <twb> Hm, looks like S20 is network
[16:40] <dv_> so rename it from S20 to S40 in each directory rc*.d ?
[16:40] <dv_> or just one?
[16:40] <twb> S20 is correct
[16:40] <dv_> btw. why is this thing in *every runlevel directory*?
[16:40] <twb> Because those are the default sysvinit semantics.
[16:40] <twb> See the Debian policy manual and the update-rc.d manpage
[16:41]  * flyback later all
[16:41] <hallyn> jdstrand: are you on the ubuntu-server m-l?
[16:46] <dev|null> hello guys, is it posible to compile a kernel with third party modules so it is embebed in the kernel and i dont have to insert them everytime with insmod
[16:47] <jdstrand> hallyn: yes. if you are referring to the apparmor/chroot issue, then the profile needs to be adjusted for a chrooted bind
[16:47] <twb> dev|null: if you are running insmod by hand, you are doing it wrong
[16:48] <dev|null> twb: i know i could do it in /etc/rc.local or something
[16:48] <hallyn> jdstrand: the profile he listed showed 'capability sys_chroot' - or was that for the wrong binary?
[16:48] <jdstrand> hallyn: the profile is setup for the default install (and some common configurations) and not chroot. there is no particular need to chroot if it is confined with apparmor, but it can be done if someone updates the profile
[16:48] <twb> dev|null: er, no, I mean as opposed to having modprobe.d and udev load modules in response to hardware detection
[16:49] <hallyn> jdstrand: but if chroot is already listed as allowed, then how else should the profile be updated?
[16:49] <dev|null> twb: it is not hardware modules, this are carp modules to run carp form kernel and not userland
[16:50] <jdstrand> hallyn: we need the dmesg
[16:50] <twb> Common Address Redundancy Protocol ?
[16:50] <jdstrand> hallyn: or he needs to look at it and determine what he needs to add
[16:50] <hallyn> all right - i've already asked him to open a bug
[16:50] <dev|null> twb: yes that CARP
[16:50] <resno> question about virutalization. i cant use kvm, i dont have the extenions on my cpu. any thouhts with using openvnz
[16:51] <twb> resno: OpenVZ became LXC
[16:51] <hallyn> jdstrand: alrighty, thx
[16:51] <jdstrand> hallyn: profiling is often iterative, so looking at the kernel outpu tis key
[16:51] <hallyn> (i'll save arguing about relying solely on apparmor for an in-person argument :)
[16:51] <resno> twb: oh, anything on lxc then :)
[16:52] <hallyn> yup, i'll ask for his dmesg when he opens a bug
[16:52] <jdstrand> hallyn: it is also useful to turn of kernel rate limiting when profiling
[16:52] <jdstrand> hallyn: otherwise you might lose important stuff
[16:53] <hallyn> i'd only asked for strace so far - just to make sure it was sys_chroot() that failed (and that it returned -EACCESS not -EPERM)
[17:01] <resno> question about virutalization. i cant use kvm, i dont have the extenions on my cpu. any thouhts with using openvnz/lxc
[17:05] <RoyK> resno: vserver?
[17:06] <hallyn> resno: what do you want to do with it?
[17:07] <hallyn> resno: i'd recommend looking at lxc.sf.net
[17:07] <resno> hallyn: mainly for home server, not really prpduction
[17:07] <clayd> how do you set up apache so that when it creates a file the owner of that directory can still edit it?  I am looking into how to set up a server to run multiple sites for different users.
[17:07] <hallyn> resno: of course the other thing you can try out is xen, but see if lxc suits your needs.
[17:07] <resno> RoyK: i am currently using virtualbox
[17:08] <resno> hallyn: is lxc straightforward to install and mange?
[17:08] <RoyK> vbox should work
[17:09] <resno> RoyK: its way to heavy :(
[17:10] <RoyK> it is?
[17:10] <RoyK> well
[17:10] <RoyK> vserver is light
[17:13] <hallyn> resno: yup
[17:13] <hallyn> resno: make sure to get an 0.7.x release (default if you're on maverick),
[17:13] <hallyn> resno: then creating a container is pretty trivial
[17:14] <hallyn> resno: (see http://s3hh.wordpress.com/2010/06/18/lxc-0-7-0/ - if yo'ure on lucid, you can get newer lxc from my ppa)
[17:15] <resno> im using 10.04 lts
[17:15] <resno> hallyn: ^
[17:16] <resno> ah, im using lucid :)
[17:17] <hallyn> resno: then i'd recommend getting lxc from https://launchpad.net/~serge-hallyn/+archive/virt?field.series_filter=lucid
[17:17] <hallyn> resno: or install from git from lxc.sf.net
[17:17] <hallyn> resno: the reason is that the lucid version doesn't have the working lxc-ubuntu template, which is what makes it so much easier
[17:20] <resno> can i trust your ppa?
[17:22] <hallyn> resno: i'm on the server team, fwiw :)  i won't be offended if you d/l install from git
[17:23] <hallyn> resno: i'm just not going to SRU the lxc package because there were too many changes, and while they are a HUGE improvement, they are not bugfixes...  so it'd be wrong to push back to lucid
[17:23] <resno> ah i see
[17:25] <twb> If it's only the lxc userspace, anyone that needs the new featuers can just grab the package from a newer release -- it has negligible dependencies IIRC
[17:25] <hallyn> twb: how shoudl they do that?
[17:26] <twb> By main force :P
[17:26] <twb> Or get it into -backports instead of -security, I guess
[17:27] <hallyn> yeah, that'd be good - last time i wanted to get something into -backports i think the process stalled somewhere, but i can't recall what it was
[17:27] <resno> hallyn: whats the package name to install?
[17:27] <hallyn> lxc
[17:28] <resno> heh, i misspelled install LOL
[17:28] <twb> btw, libvirt doesn't use the lxc package at all
[17:28] <hallyn> nope, it has its own implementation
[17:28] <twb> So if you drunk their kool-aid, you get their builtin lxc userland
[17:28] <hallyn> one day i might try to change that again :)
[17:29] <hallyn> yes, but their lxc userland is much less usable
[17:29] <hallyn> the console is ... wanting
[17:29] <twb> That's what I guessed
[17:29] <twb> I couldn't see the point of libvirt on a host where only root needs to be able to setup/teardown VMs, and anyone with root is assumed to have a clue
[17:30] <patdk-wk> heh? root has a clue?
[17:30]  * patdk-wk wonders what places twb has worked :)
[17:31] <twb> patdk-wk: prisonpc.com, cybersource.com.au
[17:31] <twb> Admittedly, our SOHO customers don't have a clue, and they theoretically have root.
[17:31] <resno> hallyn: once ive got a container provisioned, and im installing, how do i get in to control the install process?
[17:31] <twb> *SOHO/SME
[17:32] <patdk-wk> my brother just learned the difference between # and $ this week
[17:32] <patdk-wk> he didn't understand why my prompt said # and his said $
[17:32] <twb> resno: the install procedure is debootstrap, not d-i
[17:32] <hallyn> resno: ah, here's where maybe lxc doesn't suit your needs.  you can't install from a cd into a container
[17:32] <resno> hallyn: how is it done?
[17:32] <hallyn> resno: like twb said - debootstrap
[17:33] <twb> hallyn: you probably could if you unpacked the initrd and lxc-execute'd /init, although it'd be dumb
[17:33] <hallyn> resno: fedora, debian, and suse each have their own way of doing it (febootstrap i think for fedora)
[17:33] <twb> Or cdebootstrap or multistrap
[17:33] <hallyn> twb: i'd worry about it attempting to play with disks
[17:33] <resno> hallyn: ah, i see ill have to do some research before this really gets working
[17:33] <twb> hallyn: make it the netinst ramdisk, then
[17:34] <twb> hallyn: obviously the block devices are virtualized, too
[17:34] <hallyn> now hopefully the config uses devices cgroup to stop it from writing to /dev/sda
[17:34] <hallyn> no,
[17:34] <hallyn> they're not virtualized
[17:34] <twb> "virtualized" as in the same as chroot(8) is virtualizing the VFS
[17:34] <hallyn> right.  pivot_root(0
[17:34] <twb> Not as in emulating a disk controller
[17:35] <hallyn> why can't i hit ) ever in irc
[17:35] <twb> hallyn: fat fingers?
[17:35] <patdk-wk> ) is pretty far up on the keyboard
[17:35] <hallyn> lazy ones
[17:37] <twb> As for me, my editor inserts ( and ) together.
[17:50] <Vibedigital> its possible zabbix use dns name on agent and not  IP? someone can help?
[18:13] <kirkland> hallyn: yo
[18:15] <ruben23> hi guys i have a folder of assorted date recordings how do i copy or extract a particular recordings for a date. sample i want october adn september recordings only- teh file name is name_date.
[18:18] <hallyn> kirkland: .
[18:18] <hallyn> kirkland: (heading out soon)
[18:19] <kirkland> hallyn: okay, i was just letting you know that i'm working on your qemu-kvm and seabios merges now
[18:19] <hallyn> thx
[18:21] <kirkland> hallyn: did you re-roll the qemu-kvm without the binary blobs yet?
[18:24] <kirkland> hallyn: okay, i'm skipping qemu-kvm for now
[18:24] <kirkland> hallyn: looking at seabios
[18:28] <kirkland> hallyn: okay, uploaded seabios
[18:32] <hhlp> ubuntu server 10.10 documentation is available in any place ?
[18:33] <ScottK> hhlp: help.ubuntu.com
[18:33] <ScottK> hhlp: Same as the link in /topic for 10.04, but with the release number changed.
[18:34] <ScottK> acutally not
[18:34] <ScottK> That's a problem.
[18:36] <ScottK> sommer: Do you know what's up with help.ubuntu.com and no docs for 10.10?
[18:37] <hhlp> ScottK, -> https://help.ubuntu.com/10.10/serverguide/C/     page not found
[18:37] <ScottK> hhlp: Yes.  I discovered that.  Sorry for the bad pointer.
[18:37] <hhlp> ScottK, np
[18:38] <ScottK> sommer, (who I just pinged) is the server docs person, so we'll see what he has to say.
[18:38] <hallyn> kirkland: yes, binary blobs are removed from qemu-kvm
[19:09] <RoAkSoAx> sommer: ping
[19:58] <gbrandao> Hello, I would like to help you. The kernel has support ubuntu server database cache? Please!
[19:58] <twb> gbrandao: I don't understand the question.
[19:59] <JKL_> twb: your not alone
[20:00] <JKL_> you are
[20:00] <JKL_> ^^
[20:13] <RoyK> http://izismile.com/2010/10/22/daily_picdump_151_pics-89.html lol
[20:19] <david506> Is it possible to do NAT in ubuntu without the use of iptables -j MASQUERADE ?
[20:22] <RoyK> david506: doubt it
[20:22] <RoyK> david506: why?
[20:23] <david506> I need to do NAT handling, but the kernel doesn't accept -j MASQUERADE, arg. Stupid vserver
[20:23] <RoyK> you can't do that stuff with vserver
[20:23] <david506> Stupid vserve
[20:25]  * RoyK is writing about a 250TB setup - how we did it
[20:26] <david506> 250 harddrives ? ;)
[20:26] <david506> all daisy changed on usb 1.1 :)
[20:26] <RoyK> 1.0
[20:26] <RoyK> :D
[20:27] <RoyK> no, opensolaris-based, 160ish 2TB drives
[20:27] <david506> Oh ok
[20:27] <RoyK> ZFS FTW!
[20:27] <twb> david506: yes, with -j SNAT
[20:28] <twb> david506: MASQUERADE is for hosts with dynamically-allocated public addresses; SNAT is for hosts with predictable public addresses.
[20:28] <david506> Nice timing, I just found an article talking about that
[20:28] <RoyK> twb: he's having a vserver install - can't do kernel stuff from there
[20:28] <twb> Ah, right.
[20:29] <david506> I can control snat in the vserver d
[20:29] <david506> :d
[20:30] <RoyK> nope
[20:30] <david506> I guess I'll have to do some reading on Snat
[20:30] <RoyK> david506: no need - you can't do iptables from vserver
[20:30] <twb> So vserver is a container (jail) technology.  I thought it was xen-style hypervisor-based.
[20:30] <twb> Not that it matters; vserver's even deadedr than openvz
[20:30] <david506> this one I can
[20:31] <david506> I can do most iptables in this vserver, it's just masquerade doesn't work
[20:37] <david506> Apparently SNAT and MASQUERADE are the same thing, MASQUERADE use IPs and MASQUERADE interface...
[20:37] <david506> http://lists.netfilter.org/pipermail/netfilter/2001-May/011734.html
[20:42] <Ayrton> how to upgrade my ubuntu server with update-manager-core over a ssh session?
[20:43] <Ayrton> i'm using karmic
[20:43] <RoyK> do-release-upgrade ?
[20:44] <Ayrton> RoyK, it say that a daemon of ssh will open in port 9004
[20:44] <Ayrton> but, not happens
[20:44] <Ayrton> whait a minute, strangly happens
[20:44] <RoyK> Ayrton: I've done some upgrades, and it hasn't cut the ssh connection yet
[20:44] <Ayrton> wait*
[20:48] <Ayrton> RoyK, it a translation issue
[20:48] <Ayrton> in my language, when I confirm to S, to sim (yes), not happens
[20:48] <Ayrton> and the prompt get cancel
[20:48] <Ayrton> RoyK, I need to confirm with Y
[20:49] <Ayrton> i will report this bug on translations team
[20:49] <RoyK> Ayrton: out of interest - what is your language?
[20:51] <Jeeves_Moss> how can I setup external rules?  My current setup isn't learning the spam, and I'd like to use an external list
[20:51] <Ayrton> RoyK, brazilian portuguese
[20:51] <RoyK> ok
[20:52] <Ayrton> I'm talking with the brazilian translations team at now
[20:52] <Ayrton> thanks for the attention ^^
[20:53] <RoyK> which reminds me of http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/jokes/bljokebushbrazilian.htm
[20:53] <Jeeves_Moss> how can I setup external rules?  My current setup isn't learning the spam, and I'd like to use an external list
[21:08] <Jeeves_Moss> how can I setup external rules?  My current setup isn't learning the spam, and I'd like to use an external list
[21:09] <david506> how can I see the outbound packets to make sure snat did it's job ?
[21:26] <Delemas> I rolled a server into a kvm VM. It's running Ubuntu 10.04 with the virtual kernel. The kernel has virtio_net built in. It works for several other VMs with same kernel. The buggy VM sees virtio_net in lspci but it never seems to recognize it as ethX. Ideas to fix it?
[21:26] <david506> So I have two internet connections now, and I want all my traffic to go out on connection 1, the rest on connection 2. I do not want to do and mangling or nat. Help ?
[21:31] <twb> After "all", "the rest" is zero.
[22:30] <Dravekx> can someone help me get mod rewrite working on ubuntu server?
[22:31] <Dravekx> or is there a way to tell if it is active?
[22:34] <Dravekx> snap. I got it. I had the base wrong