[08:01] <ara> good morning!
[13:40] <sulumar> Greetings
[14:45] <moustafa> camembert!
[16:08] <davmor2> moustafa: Cheddar it's better
[17:01] <moustafa> davmor2: agreed
[17:02] <davmor2> moustafa: It's the cheese of torchwood and the doctor so it must be right ;)
[19:17] <amorphous1> cr3, got a minute?
[19:18] <cr3> I'm coming...
[21:48] <YokoZar> Can LDTP click on windows that are out of focus?
[21:48] <nagappan> YokoZar, sure
[21:48] <YokoZar> nagappan: do they stay out of focus?
[21:49] <nagappan> YokoZar, I don't get that
[21:50] <YokoZar> Can I have a script running clicking through a window that's in the background while I'm interacting with some other program in the foreground, and that background task stays (but completes) in the background.
[21:50] <YokoZar> and by background I mean out of focus
[21:51] <nagappan> YokoZar, In that case, I would suggest you to run in hudson environment
[21:52] <nagappan> YokoZar, http://mago.ubuntu.com/Documentation/RunningOnHudson
[21:52] <nagappan> YokoZar, https://launchpad.net/hudson-x11-guitest
[21:52] <YokoZar> Ahh, ok, that seems to be it
[21:53] <YokoZar> For reference you can do this in Wine programs with autohotkey already ;)
[21:53] <YokoZar> Thanks nagappan
[21:53] <nagappan> YokoZar, interesting to know, thanks
[22:03] <nagappan> YokoZar, maybe its good idea to implement it, with LDTP we can do it, but I forced all the grab focus ;-)
[22:04] <YokoZar> Well if it gets used solely for unattended testing it may not be that important.  If it's the kind of automation that might be useful on a desktop that's being used though, then yeah there would be some value
[22:04] <YokoZar> For instance in the Wine/Autohotkey case I'm automating some application installers -- both to speed testing but also for users to install em quicker
[22:09] <nagappan> YokoZar, cool
[22:19]  * persia notes that it's important to balance automation to prevent user surprise: if things are very heavily automated yet still GUI, it may be best to have them happen off-screen (perhaps in a dummy X server or similar).