[08:01] good morning! === fader_ is now known as fader [13:40] Greetings [14:45] camembert! [16:08] moustafa: Cheddar it's better [17:01] davmor2: agreed [17:02] moustafa: It's the cheese of torchwood and the doctor so it must be right ;) [19:17] cr3, got a minute? [19:18] I'm coming... === yofel_ is now known as yofel [21:48] Can LDTP click on windows that are out of focus? [21:48] YokoZar, sure [21:48] nagappan: do they stay out of focus? [21:49] YokoZar, I don't get that [21:50] Can I have a script running clicking through a window that's in the background while I'm interacting with some other program in the foreground, and that background task stays (but completes) in the background. [21:50] and by background I mean out of focus [21:51] YokoZar, In that case, I would suggest you to run in hudson environment [21:52] YokoZar, http://mago.ubuntu.com/Documentation/RunningOnHudson [21:52] YokoZar, https://launchpad.net/hudson-x11-guitest [21:52] Ahh, ok, that seems to be it [21:53] For reference you can do this in Wine programs with autohotkey already ;) [21:53] Thanks nagappan [21:53] YokoZar, interesting to know, thanks [22:03] YokoZar, maybe its good idea to implement it, with LDTP we can do it, but I forced all the grab focus ;-) [22:04] Well if it gets used solely for unattended testing it may not be that important. If it's the kind of automation that might be useful on a desktop that's being used though, then yeah there would be some value [22:04] For instance in the Wine/Autohotkey case I'm automating some application installers -- both to speed testing but also for users to install em quicker [22:09] YokoZar, cool [22:19] * persia notes that it's important to balance automation to prevent user surprise: if things are very heavily automated yet still GUI, it may be best to have them happen off-screen (perhaps in a dummy X server or similar).