=== ubott2 is now known as ubottu [08:10] hi all, I just installed ubuntu studio, and am having trouble getting sound to work -- have 2 sound cards, basic system sounds work fine, game sounds work fine, but none of the nice audio tools & synthesizers work [08:10] in particular, they all seem to want /dev/dsp, and I don't have a /dev/dsp [08:10] any suggestions? [08:11] anyone familiar with how to use padsp? [08:45] fractauralmotif: its a bit of a quiet time and not many around. please hang around for a few hours, hopefully someone wakes up [08:46] fractauralmotif: feel free to also ask in #ubuntu, although thats a more general channel [15:10] hello, .... there is a way to edit mp3 or wma in ardour? [15:22] Most folk use audacity for that. I suppose you could use some audio file as an input track, and then apply filters to it, and generate an output track, which ends up being sorta like editing. [15:31] mmmm ok... thankyou [15:32] well thankyou =) good bye [18:56] any news on a realtime kernel for maverick ? [18:56] Needs someone to volunteer to maintain one. [18:57] Significantly unlikely for maverick, really. Best chance, if there is a volunteer, is for the next release. [18:57] is there any workaround for the moment ? I was stupid enought to upgrade my lucid and now I can't use my soundcard anymore [18:57] workaround? [18:58] If you need hard realtime, you'll need a realtime kernel. [18:58] workaround as a way to get realtime working on maverick [18:58] Since nobody is maintaining one, you get to make one yourself (please share if it works). [18:59] I know there are a number of people interested in using one, but I don't think anyone is currently up for maintaining one (although I'd be very happy if that changed) [18:59] mmmm - I think I'd rather get a looppedal and stop using my laptop for music [18:59] I'm a bit pissed off that this happened without any warning [19:00] There was some mail on the mailing list. [19:00] Where would you have expected to see a warning? [19:01] in the wiki for example [19:01] a big red banner saying "warning, maverick doesn't support real time anymore" [19:02] There's https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RealTime [19:02] See the "News" section. [19:02] yes, at the time I update, that is on october 10, there was a realtime kernel for maverick [19:03] Not in Ubuntu, although, yes, there was one in a PPA. [19:03] poine: Not in the archives there wasn't. [19:03] in abogani's ppa [19:03] If you installed something from a PPA, it ought still work as well as it did then. Nothing from any PPA gets any real support. [19:11] lol, just did the exact same thing poine :P [19:15] one thing I don't get is why focus on the next release on not the current one ? [19:16] The policy is that stuff has to work on the future release before it can be backported. [19:16] So if someone wants to be part of Ubuntu, it makes sense to get a kernel working on the *next* release, and backport it. [19:17] So that next release, everything just works perfectly for all the users. [19:17] Otherwise, just when one gets something stable, another release happens, and one has to start all over, whilst the users complain that the upgrade experience wasn't good. [19:17] * persia is also a user, and does a *lot* of complaining about some things [19:26] more likely, a warning should be made that the realtime kernel is default [19:26] since some folk have issues with proprietary graphics drivers and the RT kernel [19:26] What? [19:26] I don't think we've had a default realtime for a while now. [19:26] * holstein just trying to say 'you cant please everyone' ;) [19:27] Oh, certainly. [19:29] there is an RT kernel in lucid [19:30] i think the idea is that the way forward is to have the generic kernel be acceptable for our needs [19:30] and this seems to be happening [19:30] Well, depends on the needs. [19:30] true [19:31] i still need an rt kernel [19:31] But the generic kernel latency keeps dropping, which is nice. [19:31] much better all the time i find :)