[08:10] <fractauralmotif> hi all, I just installed ubuntu studio, and am having trouble getting sound to work -- have 2 sound cards, basic system sounds work fine, game sounds work fine, but none of the nice audio tools & synthesizers work
[08:10] <fractauralmotif> in particular, they all seem to want /dev/dsp, and I don't have a /dev/dsp
[08:10] <fractauralmotif> any suggestions?
[08:11] <fractauralmotif> anyone familiar with how to use padsp?
[08:45] <jussi> fractauralmotif: its a bit of a quiet time and not many around. please hang around for a few hours, hopefully someone wakes up
[08:46] <jussi> fractauralmotif: feel free to also ask in #ubuntu, although thats a more general channel
[15:10] <clave> hello, .... there is a way to edit mp3 or wma in ardour?
[15:22] <persia> Most folk use audacity for that.  I suppose you could use some audio file as an input track, and then apply filters to it, and generate an output track, which ends up being sorta like editing.
[15:31] <clave> mmmm ok... thankyou
[15:32] <clave> well thankyou =) good bye
[18:56] <poine> any news on a realtime kernel for maverick ?
[18:56] <persia> Needs someone to volunteer to maintain one.
[18:57] <persia> Significantly unlikely for maverick, really.  Best chance, if there is a volunteer, is for the next release.
[18:57] <poine> is there any workaround for the moment ? I was stupid enought to upgrade my lucid and now I can't use my soundcard anymore
[18:57] <persia> workaround?
[18:58] <persia> If you need hard realtime, you'll need a realtime kernel.
[18:58] <poine> workaround as a way to get realtime working on maverick
[18:58] <persia> Since nobody is maintaining one, you get to make one yourself (please share if it works).
[18:59] <persia> I know there are a number of people interested in using one, but I don't think anyone is currently up for maintaining one  (although I'd be very happy if that changed)
[18:59] <poine> mmmm - I think I'd rather get a looppedal and stop using my laptop for music
[18:59] <poine> I'm a bit pissed off that this happened without any warning
[19:00] <persia> There was some mail on the mailing list.
[19:00] <persia> Where would you have expected to see a warning?
[19:01] <poine> in the wiki for example
[19:01] <poine> a big red banner saying "warning, maverick doesn't support real time anymore"
[19:02] <persia> There's https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RealTime
[19:02] <persia> See the "News" section.
[19:02] <poine> yes, at the time I update, that is on october 10, there was a realtime kernel for maverick
[19:03] <persia> Not in Ubuntu, although, yes, there was one in a PPA.
[19:03] <astraljava> poine: Not in the archives there wasn't.
[19:03] <poine> in abogani's ppa
[19:03] <persia> If you installed something from a PPA, it ought still work as well as it did then.  Nothing from any PPA gets any real support.
[19:11] <kbn> lol, just did the exact same thing poine :P
[19:15] <poine> one thing I don't get is why focus on the next release on not the current one ?
[19:16] <persia> The policy is that stuff has to work on the future release before it can be backported.
[19:16] <persia> So if someone wants to be part of Ubuntu, it makes sense to get a kernel working on the *next* release, and backport it.
[19:17] <persia> So that next release, everything just works perfectly for all the users.
[19:17] <persia> Otherwise, just when one gets something stable, another release happens, and one has to start all over, whilst the users complain that the upgrade experience wasn't good.
[19:17]  * persia is also a user, and does a *lot* of complaining about some things
[19:26] <holstein> more likely, a warning should be made that the realtime kernel is default
[19:26] <holstein> since some folk have issues with proprietary graphics drivers and the RT kernel
[19:26] <persia> What?
[19:26] <persia> I don't think we've had a default realtime for a while now.
[19:26]  * holstein just trying to say 'you cant please everyone' ;)
[19:27] <persia> Oh, certainly.
[19:29] <holstein> there is an RT kernel in lucid
[19:30] <holstein> i think the idea is that the way forward is to have the generic kernel be acceptable for our needs
[19:30] <holstein> and this seems to be happening
[19:30] <persia> Well, depends on the needs.
[19:30] <holstein> true
[19:31] <holstein> i still need an rt kernel
[19:31] <persia> But the generic kernel latency keeps dropping, which is nice.
[19:31] <holstein> much better all the time i find :)