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JontheEchidnaLex79: does pyqt need to wait on sip before it will build python3 support?00:08
Lex79yes/no, if you upload now you have to retry, I added the correct build-deps version in control ;)00:09
JontheEchidnaheh, 4.8 is out http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/PyQt?content=2847700:09
Lex79oh my :(00:09
Lex79JontheEchidna: can you do the 4.8 ? just keep my rules please :)00:10
Lex79and the python 3 build-deps00:11
Lex79qscintilla needs upload too, see the backlog00:12
CIA-46[ubuntu] Alessandro Ghersi <alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org * alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org-20101022231810-9rq9pfzsf6vc0vx8 * debian/ (changelog control) kde4libs (4:4.5.2a-0ubuntu2) natty; urgency=low * Fix libkcmutils4, libkemoticons4, libkidletime4, libkprintutils4 upgrade * kdelibs5-data replaces libkdecore500:18
ScottKJontheEchidna: Feel free to ping me when sip4-qt3 hits new.00:21
JontheEchidnaScottK: ok00:21
JontheEchidnaLex79: qscintilla uploaded, btw00:21
Lex79JontheEchidna: thanks00:22
Lex79ScottK: sip will not be in new, no need to make a new binary package00:24
ScottKLex79: We do want the python3 stuff separate.00:25
Lex79who said that? you didn't said that before00:25
Lex79*say00:25
ScottKSorry.  I thought everyone knew.00:26
ScottKhttp://wiki.debian.org/Python/SqueezePy3k has information on how to do it.00:26
Lex79:(00:26
ScottKAlso Quintasan had his attempt at it reviewed in #debian-python and got feedback on it.00:27
ScottKThat's why I mentioned he'd been working on it.00:27
ScottK(sorry - really busy day here).00:27
JontheEchidnaI'll be up for another 5 hours, if uploads are necessary00:27
Lex79JontheEchidna: If Quintasan did, I leave the package to him00:28
Lex79:P00:28
* ScottK pokes at Quintasan to get to work.00:30
JontheEchidnaLex79: I see what you mean: http://imgur.com/F5b4o00:30
Lex79JontheEchidna: yeah00:31
Lex79JontheEchidna: there is a patch in qt4-x11 which we have to remove/disable00:32
Lex79it was reintroduced in the last upload00:32
JontheEchidnathe fake_embolden one?00:32
Lex79uhm I don't remeber, I removed it in the middle of maverick cycle00:33
Lex79JontheEchidna: yes, kubuntu_0800:34
JontheEchidnayeah, that one needs to go00:34
JontheEchidnaiirc there was a bug report about it, then we removed it for maverick00:34
Lex79JontheEchidna: yes it causes also an issue in konsole00:34
JontheEchidnathis just might be annoying enough to make me fix it00:37
Lex79thanks :)00:37
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Lex79JontheEchidna: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-qt4/4.7.7-0ubuntu101:07
Lex79retry please01:07
JontheEchidnaLex79: retried01:15
Lex79uhm I think sip is not yet published01:26
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CIA-46[ubuntu] Alessandro Ghersi <alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org * alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org-20101023020614-zx5zl1m6rga498ya * debian/ (changelog control) kde4libs (4:4.5.2a-0ubuntu3) natty; urgency=low * libkutils4 depends on libkcmutils4, libkprintutils4, libkidletime4 and libkemoticons403:06
ScottKLex79: If it published on the last publisher run it will be available at ~45 after the hour from archive.ubuntu.com (and to the builders)03:27
Lex79thank ScottK03:28
ScottKYou're welcome.03:28
Lex79ScottK: did you move kde4libs from New?03:33
ScottKLex79: I did not.03:33
ScottKShould I?03:33
Lex79uhm strange03:33
Lex79ScottK: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde4libs/4:4.5.2a-0ubuntu203:33
Lex79it seems not in new03:34
ScottKThen I guess someone else did.03:34
Lex79uhm again :) maybe the new binaries are not yet published03:38
Lex79https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde4libs/4:4.5.2a-0ubuntu2/+build/201485703:38
ScottKShould be there in 5 minutes it looks like.03:40
Lex79ScottK: oh, there are some kdelibs binary packages in universe, libkcmutils4, libkemoticons4, libkidletime4, libkprintutils404:17
Lex79need shell powers?04:18
ScottKLex79: Yes.04:19
ScottKSorry.  Can't help with that one.04:19
Lex79ScottK: you have to grab this new power ! we need it04:20
ScottKLex79: One needs to be employed by or under long term contract with Canonical to get shell access into their data center.04:21
Lex79ah :(04:21
CIA-46[ubuntu] Alessandro Ghersi <alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org * alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org-20101023032254-qt51isl80imspvii * debian/ (changelog control) Revert my previous commit04:22
CIA-46[ubuntu] Alessandro Ghersi <alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org * alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org-20101023040300-js5wt1wk78eddff2 * debian/ (changelog control kdebase-workspace-wallpapers.install) Fix freespacenotifier, kdebase-workspace-bin, libprocesscore4b, libsolidcontrolifaces4a and libtaskmanager4b upgrades05:03
nixternaleveryone heading to uds this weekend, have a safe and wonderful trip. i will probably check in on monday if i can to see how things are going05:05
crimsunI'd drink a beer for you, but I don't drink beer.05:06
maconor do i05:06
nixternalnor do i05:07
macojust teqila @ 11am?05:07
nixternaloh wait, sorry, i was confused obviously :p05:07
crimsun-;p05:07
macocrimsun: alfalfa?05:07
crimsunmaco: I had a nice bowl of pho this evening at Pho 75 near Rosslyn; try it sometime05:08
nixternali think that was the last time i had tekillya, or at least the last time i remember05:08
nixternaljeesh, 11pm and i am ready for bed. this gettin' old shit has to stop05:08
nixternalg'nite!05:08
macocrimsun: kk. know of any nearer to clarendon or ballston? rosslyn's not a nice walk05:08
crimsunI'll ask around05:09
macok05:09
crimsunthis schedule is heinous05:09
macoo?05:10
crimsunyeah, mostly 13~14-hr days this week05:10
CIA-46[ubuntu] Alessandro Ghersi <alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org * alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org-20101023044247-tooq5fppiszg6ixy * debian/ (changelog control) Released05:42
CIA-46[ubuntu] Alessandro Ghersi <alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org * alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org-20101023050108-u33d0g6oxty836sp * debian/ (changelog control) konqueror replaces libkonqsidebarplugin4a (<< 4:4.5.1-0ubuntu2)06:01
CIA-46[ubuntu] Alessandro Ghersi <alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org * alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org-20101023050450-r10xpqtxg332pzoh * debian/control Remove XS-Debian-Vcs-Browser and git06:04
CIA-46[ubuntu] Alessandro Ghersi <alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org * alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org-20101023051043-1dqyyl57xbxyuaqr * debian/changelog Fix changelog06:10
CIA-46[ubuntu] Alessandro Ghersi <alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org * alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org-20101023051623-vk4bmovtpewtu5mf * debian/changelog Releasing version 4.5.206:16
CIA-46[ubuntu] Alessandro Ghersi <alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org * alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org-20101023052450-tpijtgp3lwpd3amz * debian/ (changelog control) Releasing version 4.5.206:24
CIA-46[ubuntu] Alessandro Ghersi <alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org * alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org-20101023054152-oen4bwvamg9z5344 * debian/changelog Realising version 4.5.206:41
CIA-46[ubuntu] Alessandro Ghersi <alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org * alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org-20101023054602-qq3l4fmuqtv49tif * debian/changelog Releasing version 4.5.206:46
shadeslayermaco: pingly06:47
macoshadeslayer: pong06:48
shadeslayermaco: any news on the namkeen?06:48
macoim just gonna say "something not too spicy"06:48
shadeslayeralrighty :)06:48
shadeslayerhahaha .... Something Developer-related < one of the plenaries07:47
shadeslayerwho was packaging that oxygen gtk thing?08:23
shadeslayerjust a small note, debian is too08:23
* apachelogger is getting like super nervous11:45
apacheloggeralso I have a meeting in 15 minutes :O11:45
apacheloggeromg11:45
* apachelogger jumps out of the pyjamas into more appropriate clothing and scuttles off to university11:46
Sputit's... saturday...13:07
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shadeslayerok i guess ill be meeting you guys at UDS now :D13:25
* shadeslayer is leaving for the airport in 50 mins13:25
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apacheloggerSput: is there something special about today being saturday?15:36
Sputapachelogger: yes. having meetings.15:53
apacheloggerSput: well15:53
apacheloggerif one wants to go on vacation for a week one first must work harder :P15:54
Sputah, I call that "homeoffice" :>16:05
apacheloggerwell16:12
apacheloggeryou are sput :P16:12
* apachelogger drew 17 class diagrams and needs a new hand now16:12
nigelbapachelogger: aren't you supposed to get on a plane soon?16:36
apacheloggernigelb: in like 12 hours16:43
* apachelogger is only arriving sunsday evening16:43
apachelogger-s16:43
nigelbapachelogger: ah, ok16:44
crimsunshadeslayer: I'll be at UDS-N for the first two days.17:15
on3_ghi all17:21
CIA-46[ubuntu] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20101023171301-dgyecckgeab7w3mu * debian/patches/ (3 files) (log message trimmed)18:13
CIA-46Remove kubuntu_08_add_missing_bold_style.diff and18:13
CIA-46kubuntu_08_add_missing_bold_style.diff, as they were causing regressions with18:13
CIA-46[ubuntu] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20101023171510-mjxn61qwc4w070b1 * debian/changelog Changelog++18:15
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Lex79JontheEchidna: can you fix the Qt changelog at least in bzr? no need another upload I think, just in bzr to remember what you did19:09
JontheEchidnahmm?19:09
JontheEchidnaoh19:10
JontheEchidnaha19:10
JontheEchidnaI blame klipper :P19:10
Lex79:D19:10
CIA-46[ubuntu] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20101023181113-8ec8uiz3p01we1lw * debian/changelog Fix changelog19:11
CIA-46[ubuntu] Alessandro Ghersi <alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org * alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org-20101023182806-73el4ho5bz84sgkm * debian/ (changelog control) kdebindings-dbg and libqyoto4.5-cil not depend on libsmokeqt4-319:28
CIA-46[ubuntu] Alessandro Ghersi <alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org * alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org-20101023182948-arfo2ox7x2rnkd2e * debian/changelog kdepim-runtime (4:4.4.7-0ubuntu1) natty; urgency=low * New upstream release19:29
Lex79I hope someone arrive with shell power19:35
ScottKProbably most of them are in transit.19:39
jjessecheck #ubuntu-uds19:39
jjesseor whatever the channel is :)19:39
Lex79yes, the problems are two: 1)it's saturday 2) UDS19:40
Lex79:D19:40
apacheloggerif we had point to point teleportation...19:45
CIA-46[ubuntu] Alessandro Ghersi <alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org * alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org-20101023201104-82vltt8fpmdkbeaf * debian/ (changelog control) kdepim (4:4.4.7-0ubuntu1) natty; urgency=low * New upstream release - Build against kdepim-runtime 4.4.721:11
CIA-46[ubuntu] Alessandro Ghersi <alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org * alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org-20101023210109-9il00wttfc8dj5ju * debian/ (changelog control) * kdesdk-dolphin-plugins replaces dolphin-plugins * Build against libkonq5-dev (>= 4:4.5.2-0ubuntu1) for libkonq5 -> libkonq5a transition22:08
CIA-46[ubuntu] Alessandro Ghersi <alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org * alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org-20101023210444-8okn72434je00tsy * debian/ (changelog control) * Build against libkon5-dev (>= 4:4.5.2-0ubuntu1) for libkon5 -> libkon5a transition22:08
CIA-46[ubuntu] Alessandro Ghersi <alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org * alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org-20101023211626-kxm2x0eivtc63twy * debian/ (changelog control) amarok (2:2.3.2-0ubuntu5) natty; urgency=low * Rebuild against kdelibs5-dev 4.5.2a-0ubuntu2 for libkutils4 transition22:16
CIA-46[ubuntu] Alessandro Ghersi <alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org * alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org-20101023211915-s84rtcowjxgho5sy * debian/ (source source/format changelog control rules) choqok (0.9.85-0ubuntu3) natty; urgency=low * Rebuild against kdelibs5-dev 4.5.2a-0ubuntu2 for libkutils4 transition22:19
CIA-46[ubuntu] Alessandro Ghersi <alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org * alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org-20101023211954-ez4r78edd3ze2986 * debian/ (7 files in 2 dirs) bzr add22:19
CIA-46[ubuntu] Alessandro Ghersi <alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org * alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org-20101023212447-y8i6egpc1y8ocbb5 * debian/ (5 files in 2 dirs) k3b (2.0.1-1ubuntu4) natty; urgency=low * Rebuild against kdelibs5-dev 4.5.2a-0ubuntu2 for libkutils4 transition22:24
DarkwingDuckWhat's the wiki page for Kubuntu logos?22:26
DarkwingDuckI can't find it via search for some odd reason...22:26
CIA-46[ubuntu] Alessandro Ghersi <alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org * alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org-20101023213318-mxkxc2cz0kyo2qd9 * debian/ (changelog control) plasma-widget-networkmanagement (0.9~svn1176084-0ubuntu2) natty; urgency=low * Rebuild against kdelibs5-dev 4.5.2a-0ubuntu2 for libkutils4 transition22:33
CIA-46[ubuntu] Alessandro Ghersi <alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org * alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org-20101023213740-s6qi0a051jf5az5k * debian/ (changelog control) konversation (1.3.1-1ubuntu4) natty; urgency=low * Rebuild against kdelibs5-dev 4.5.2a-0ubuntu2 for libkutils4 transition22:37
JontheEchidnaman, this looks pretty hardcore: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/58038418/buildlog_ubuntu-natty-armel.phonon_4:4.7.0really4.4.2-1ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz22:38
JontheEchidnait's currently breaking the entire KDE stack22:38
JontheEchidna(on armel)22:38
ScottKYep.22:38
* ScottK asked NCommander to look at it, but he didn't reply to my ping on IRC.22:39
DarkwingDuckOkay, I gotta finish packing for my easly bleep flight tomorrow22:44
DarkwingDuck*Early22:44
Lex79ScottK: I'm doing libktorrent, should I use libboost-dev or libbost1.42-dev ? there's libboost-dev in the last upload22:47
ScottKLex79: Either would work right now, but use the versioned one so we make sure to keep all of KDE on the same version.22:48
Lex79ok thanks22:48
NCommanderScottK: I'm on VAC22:53
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: are you saying my product is flawed? :P23:01
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: nope, looks like the ASM for some atomic Qt operation is flawed23:02
apacheloggerstupid asm23:02
apacheloggerhm23:08
apacheloggerapparently I should be taking a bus in 6 hours23:08
apacheloggeroh dear oh dear23:08
JontheEchidnalunchpad is munching my time by being slow...23:13
apacheloggeromnomnom23:14
JontheEchidnahrm23:15
Lex79lol23:15
JontheEchidnasynaptic writes /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/99synaptic to store the APT::Install-Recommends setting :/23:15
JontheEchidnadoes that mean that any app that wants to change the system recommends policy has to rely on 99synaptic being there?23:16
apacheloggeryes23:16
JontheEchidna:/23:16
JontheEchidnaor do we have to make an even higher numbered file and enter a neverending war of breaking the other application?23:17
apacheloggerthat is unless apt already switches it internally23:17
JontheEchidnathis setting used to be in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/01ubuntu, but then it was somehow made default internally in APT and removed23:17
JontheEchidna(01ubuntu was installed by apt)23:17
apacheloggerwell23:18
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: isnt there some aptconf that stores the global setting for the system?23:19
apachelogger(or can store)23:19
JontheEchidnaisn't that /etc/apt.conf or the files in /etc/apt.conf.d/ ?23:19
apacheloggeroh, true23:19
apacheloggerwell23:19
apacheloggeryou go by apt.conf :P23:19
* apachelogger does not think the fugly synaptic should install that sorta crap23:19
apacheloggerBUG23:19
apacheloggerif I want apps to mess with my supreme settings then I will use windows kthx23:20
JontheEchidnalol23:20
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: it was done with the wonderful Ubuntu patch review process :P23:20
JontheEchidnawhere if patch fixes symptom -> gets applied23:21
JontheEchidnaI don't suspect that anybody who knows better actually reviewed it23:21
apacheloggercool23:21
apacheloggerwell23:21
apacheloggeryou know23:21
apacheloggerI shall whine to our leader personally in the most whiny fashion :P23:21
JontheEchidna:P23:22
JontheEchidnaor at least mvo, if you see him ;)23:22
* apachelogger is reasonable certain he will not be invited to uds anymoar after next week ;)23:22
CIA-46[ubuntu] Alessandro Ghersi <alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org * alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org-20101023222236-ow0k1zorchmw0v1a * debian/ (6 files in 2 dirs) digikam (2:1.5.0-0ubuntu1) natty; urgency=low * New upstream release - Bump build-dependencies - Build against libkipi-dev 1.5.023:22
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: mvo gets whining for starting pyth0rn apps and then leave them to rot :P23:22
apacheloggerlanguage-selector \o/ \o/ \o/23:23
* apachelogger packs his beauty case23:24
JontheEchidnajust tested; writing to /etc/apt/apt.conf will work23:24
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: does it take supremacy over them files?23:25
JontheEchidnayus23:25
apacheloggercool23:25
apacheloggerthen I suppose the bug that was supposed to be fixed by 99synaptic is still there but with limited audience ;)23:26
JontheEchidnathe bug was that synaptic's setting for installing recommends didn't keep between sessions :s23:27
JontheEchidnaor something23:27
apacheloggersynaptic - you report it, we make the workaround23:27
apachelogger:P23:27
JontheEchidna:P23:28
* JontheEchidna is off to properly add recommends-as-dependencies settings in muon23:29
apacheloggermuon - moar badass than synaptic23:30
JontheEchidnalol, try mousing over an icon in systemsettings and placing your mouse over where part of the tooltip will show up23:32
JontheEchidnahas to be an icon in the bottom row, where it has to place the tooltip above the icon since it would hit the bottom of the screen otherwise23:33
apacheloggernot seeing no nothing23:36
JontheEchidnahmm23:41
JontheEchidnawell I get a tooltip appearing, then disappearing because my mouse is over it23:41
apacheloggerwell23:42
apacheloggerfor me the tooltips are placed below the icon, so at the point I would enter the tooltip I am not highlighting the icon anymore23:42
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JontheEchidnaI moved my SS window to the bottom of the screen, and placed my mouse over an icon on the bottom row23:43
apacheloggeraahhh23:44
apacheloggerhm23:44
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: just flashes here23:44
JontheEchidnayeah, I get grey flashes since compositing is off23:44
apacheloggeralso due mouse focus loss, since the tooltip steals it23:44
apacheloggerisnt there some way to make widgets not accept focus or something?23:45
apacheloggeri.e. even if the tooltip would place itself ontop of the icon the icon would still have focus23:46
apacheloggerapparently not23:48
JontheEchidnawow, I don't think that APT has any API to write a configuration file23:49
apacheloggerhm, maybe as a solution the tooltip should just be drawn above the icon 23:49
apacheloggerwah, now I need in like 5 hours and didnt have sleep nor am finished packing23:50
JontheEchidnamaybe they thought that setting it during runtime via cmdline args would be OK since it was developed for apt-get23:50
apacheloggerclearly someone will be sleeping high above the clouds ^^23:50
JontheEchidna^^23:50
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: indeed it sounds like something they could have considered OK ^^23:51
JontheEchidnathis means that I'll have to write my own config parser :(23:51
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: is it not standard ini format?23:51
crimsunwow, the maverick live (desktop) installer looks *nice*23:52
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: here's an example: APT::Install-Recommends "true";23:52
apacheloggeroh23:52
apacheloggertrue23:52
apacheloggerit looks like a unicorn fart right there23:52
* apachelogger is happy to say that he is very unorganized and might end up taking a train in the wrong direction, missing his flight :D23:54
JontheEchidnaLibQApt will be the first APT wrapper that will actually let you write config without writing your own parser, mark my words!23:54
apachelogger:D23:54
apacheloggerany bets on whether our dictator will announce that unity is being rewritten using Qt?23:55

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