[00:08] Lex79: does pyqt need to wait on sip before it will build python3 support? [00:09] yes/no, if you upload now you have to retry, I added the correct build-deps version in control ;) [00:09] heh, 4.8 is out http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/PyQt?content=28477 [00:09] oh my :( [00:10] JontheEchidna: can you do the 4.8 ? just keep my rules please :) [00:11] and the python 3 build-deps [00:12] qscintilla needs upload too, see the backlog [00:18] [ubuntu] Alessandro Ghersi JontheEchidna: Feel free to ping me when sip4-qt3 hits new. [00:21] ScottK: ok [00:21] Lex79: qscintilla uploaded, btw [00:22] JontheEchidna: thanks [00:24] ScottK: sip will not be in new, no need to make a new binary package [00:25] Lex79: We do want the python3 stuff separate. [00:25] who said that? you didn't said that before [00:25] *say [00:26] Sorry. I thought everyone knew. [00:26] http://wiki.debian.org/Python/SqueezePy3k has information on how to do it. [00:26] :( [00:27] Also Quintasan had his attempt at it reviewed in #debian-python and got feedback on it. [00:27] That's why I mentioned he'd been working on it. [00:27] (sorry - really busy day here). [00:27] I'll be up for another 5 hours, if uploads are necessary [00:28] JontheEchidna: If Quintasan did, I leave the package to him [00:28] :P [00:30] * ScottK pokes at Quintasan to get to work. [00:30] Lex79: I see what you mean: http://imgur.com/F5b4o [00:31] JontheEchidna: yeah [00:32] JontheEchidna: there is a patch in qt4-x11 which we have to remove/disable [00:32] it was reintroduced in the last upload [00:32] the fake_embolden one? [00:33] uhm I don't remeber, I removed it in the middle of maverick cycle [00:34] JontheEchidna: yes, kubuntu_08 [00:34] yeah, that one needs to go [00:34] iirc there was a bug report about it, then we removed it for maverick [00:34] JontheEchidna: yes it causes also an issue in konsole [00:37] this just might be annoying enough to make me fix it [00:37] thanks :) === yofel_ is now known as yofel [01:07] JontheEchidna: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-qt4/4.7.7-0ubuntu1 [01:07] retry please [01:15] Lex79: retried [01:26] uhm I think sip is not yet published === emma is now known as EMMA === vorian_ is now known as v [03:06] [ubuntu] Alessandro Ghersi Lex79: If it published on the last publisher run it will be available at ~45 after the hour from archive.ubuntu.com (and to the builders) [03:28] thank ScottK [03:28] You're welcome. [03:33] ScottK: did you move kde4libs from New? [03:33] Lex79: I did not. [03:33] Should I? [03:33] uhm strange [03:33] ScottK: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde4libs/4:4.5.2a-0ubuntu2 [03:34] it seems not in new [03:34] Then I guess someone else did. [03:38] uhm again :) maybe the new binaries are not yet published [03:38] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde4libs/4:4.5.2a-0ubuntu2/+build/2014857 [03:40] Should be there in 5 minutes it looks like. [04:17] ScottK: oh, there are some kdelibs binary packages in universe, libkcmutils4, libkemoticons4, libkidletime4, libkprintutils4 [04:18] need shell powers? [04:19] Lex79: Yes. [04:19] Sorry. Can't help with that one. [04:20] ScottK: you have to grab this new power ! we need it [04:21] Lex79: One needs to be employed by or under long term contract with Canonical to get shell access into their data center. [04:21] ah :( [04:22] [ubuntu] Alessandro Ghersi [ubuntu] Alessandro Ghersi everyone heading to uds this weekend, have a safe and wonderful trip. i will probably check in on monday if i can to see how things are going [05:06] I'd drink a beer for you, but I don't drink beer. [05:06] nor do i [05:07] nor do i [05:07] just teqila @ 11am? [05:07] oh wait, sorry, i was confused obviously :p [05:07] -;p [05:07] crimsun: alfalfa? [05:08] maco: I had a nice bowl of pho this evening at Pho 75 near Rosslyn; try it sometime [05:08] i think that was the last time i had tekillya, or at least the last time i remember [05:08] jeesh, 11pm and i am ready for bed. this gettin' old shit has to stop [05:08] g'nite! [05:08] crimsun: kk. know of any nearer to clarendon or ballston? rosslyn's not a nice walk [05:09] I'll ask around [05:09] k [05:09] this schedule is heinous [05:10] o? [05:10] yeah, mostly 13~14-hr days this week [05:42] [ubuntu] Alessandro Ghersi [ubuntu] Alessandro Ghersi [ubuntu] Alessandro Ghersi [ubuntu] Alessandro Ghersi [ubuntu] Alessandro Ghersi [ubuntu] Alessandro Ghersi [ubuntu] Alessandro Ghersi [ubuntu] Alessandro Ghersi maco: pingly [06:48] shadeslayer: pong [06:48] maco: any news on the namkeen? [06:48] im just gonna say "something not too spicy" [06:48] alrighty :) [07:47] hahaha .... Something Developer-related < one of the plenaries [08:23] who was packaging that oxygen gtk thing? [08:23] just a small note, debian is too [11:45] * apachelogger is getting like super nervous [11:45] also I have a meeting in 15 minutes :O [11:45] omg [11:46] * apachelogger jumps out of the pyjamas into more appropriate clothing and scuttles off to university [13:07] it's... saturday... === EMMA is now known as emma [13:25] ok i guess ill be meeting you guys at UDS now :D [13:25] * shadeslayer is leaving for the airport in 50 mins === gp[8]_ is now known as kb8 === kb8 is now known as gp[8] === v is now known as SteveS === SteveS is now known as vorian [15:36] Sput: is there something special about today being saturday? [15:53] apachelogger: yes. having meetings. [15:53] Sput: well [15:54] if one wants to go on vacation for a week one first must work harder :P [16:05] ah, I call that "homeoffice" :> [16:12] well [16:12] you are sput :P [16:12] * apachelogger drew 17 class diagrams and needs a new hand now [16:36] apachelogger: aren't you supposed to get on a plane soon? [16:43] nigelb: in like 12 hours [16:43] * apachelogger is only arriving sunsday evening [16:43] -s [16:44] apachelogger: ah, ok [17:15] shadeslayer: I'll be at UDS-N for the first two days. [17:21] hi all [18:13] [ubuntu] Jonathan Thomas * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20101023171301-dgyecckgeab7w3mu * debian/patches/ (3 files) (log message trimmed) [18:13] Remove kubuntu_08_add_missing_bold_style.diff and [18:13] kubuntu_08_add_missing_bold_style.diff, as they were causing regressions with [18:15] [ubuntu] Jonathan Thomas * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20101023171510-mjxn61qwc4w070b1 * debian/changelog Changelog++ === claydoh_ is now known as claydoh [19:09] JontheEchidna: can you fix the Qt changelog at least in bzr? no need another upload I think, just in bzr to remember what you did [19:09] hmm? [19:10] oh [19:10] ha [19:10] I blame klipper :P [19:10] :D [19:11] [ubuntu] Jonathan Thomas * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20101023181113-8ec8uiz3p01we1lw * debian/changelog Fix changelog [19:28] [ubuntu] Alessandro Ghersi [ubuntu] Alessandro Ghersi I hope someone arrive with shell power [19:39] Probably most of them are in transit. [19:39] check #ubuntu-uds [19:39] or whatever the channel is :) [19:40] yes, the problems are two: 1)it's saturday 2) UDS [19:40] :D [19:45] if we had point to point teleportation... [21:11] [ubuntu] Alessandro Ghersi [ubuntu] Alessandro Ghersi = 4:4.5.2-0ubuntu1) for libkonq5 -> libkonq5a transition [22:08] [ubuntu] Alessandro Ghersi = 4:4.5.2-0ubuntu1) for libkon5 -> libkon5a transition [22:16] [ubuntu] Alessandro Ghersi [ubuntu] Alessandro Ghersi [ubuntu] Alessandro Ghersi [ubuntu] Alessandro Ghersi What's the wiki page for Kubuntu logos? [22:26] I can't find it via search for some odd reason... [22:33] [ubuntu] Alessandro Ghersi [ubuntu] Alessandro Ghersi man, this looks pretty hardcore: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/58038418/buildlog_ubuntu-natty-armel.phonon_4:4.7.0really4.4.2-1ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz [22:38] it's currently breaking the entire KDE stack [22:38] (on armel) [22:38] Yep. [22:39] * ScottK asked NCommander to look at it, but he didn't reply to my ping on IRC. [22:44] Okay, I gotta finish packing for my easly bleep flight tomorrow [22:44] *Early [22:47] ScottK: I'm doing libktorrent, should I use libboost-dev or libbost1.42-dev ? there's libboost-dev in the last upload [22:48] Lex79: Either would work right now, but use the versioned one so we make sure to keep all of KDE on the same version. [22:48] ok thanks [22:53] ScottK: I'm on VAC [23:01] JontheEchidna: are you saying my product is flawed? :P [23:02] apachelogger: nope, looks like the ASM for some atomic Qt operation is flawed [23:02] stupid asm [23:08] hm [23:08] apparently I should be taking a bus in 6 hours [23:08] oh dear oh dear [23:13] lunchpad is munching my time by being slow... [23:14] omnomnom [23:15] hrm [23:15] lol [23:15] synaptic writes /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/99synaptic to store the APT::Install-Recommends setting :/ [23:16] does that mean that any app that wants to change the system recommends policy has to rely on 99synaptic being there? [23:16] yes [23:16] :/ [23:17] or do we have to make an even higher numbered file and enter a neverending war of breaking the other application? [23:17] that is unless apt already switches it internally [23:17] this setting used to be in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/01ubuntu, but then it was somehow made default internally in APT and removed [23:17] (01ubuntu was installed by apt) [23:18] well [23:19] JontheEchidna: isnt there some aptconf that stores the global setting for the system? [23:19] (or can store) [23:19] isn't that /etc/apt.conf or the files in /etc/apt.conf.d/ ? [23:19] oh, true [23:19] well [23:19] you go by apt.conf :P [23:19] * apachelogger does not think the fugly synaptic should install that sorta crap [23:19] BUG [23:20] if I want apps to mess with my supreme settings then I will use windows kthx [23:20] lol [23:20] apachelogger: it was done with the wonderful Ubuntu patch review process :P [23:21] where if patch fixes symptom -> gets applied [23:21] I don't suspect that anybody who knows better actually reviewed it [23:21] cool [23:21] well [23:21] you know [23:21] I shall whine to our leader personally in the most whiny fashion :P [23:22] :P [23:22] or at least mvo, if you see him ;) [23:22] * apachelogger is reasonable certain he will not be invited to uds anymoar after next week ;) [23:22] [ubuntu] Alessandro Ghersi JontheEchidna: mvo gets whining for starting pyth0rn apps and then leave them to rot :P [23:23] language-selector \o/ \o/ \o/ [23:24] * apachelogger packs his beauty case [23:24] just tested; writing to /etc/apt/apt.conf will work [23:25] JontheEchidna: does it take supremacy over them files? [23:25] yus [23:25] cool [23:26] then I suppose the bug that was supposed to be fixed by 99synaptic is still there but with limited audience ;) [23:27] the bug was that synaptic's setting for installing recommends didn't keep between sessions :s [23:27] or something [23:27] synaptic - you report it, we make the workaround [23:27] :P [23:28] :P [23:29] * JontheEchidna is off to properly add recommends-as-dependencies settings in muon [23:30] muon - moar badass than synaptic [23:32] lol, try mousing over an icon in systemsettings and placing your mouse over where part of the tooltip will show up [23:33] has to be an icon in the bottom row, where it has to place the tooltip above the icon since it would hit the bottom of the screen otherwise [23:36] not seeing no nothing [23:41] hmm [23:41] well I get a tooltip appearing, then disappearing because my mouse is over it [23:42] well [23:42] for me the tooltips are placed below the icon, so at the point I would enter the tooltip I am not highlighting the icon anymore === muesli_ is now known as muesli [23:43] I moved my SS window to the bottom of the screen, and placed my mouse over an icon on the bottom row [23:44] aahhh [23:44] hm [23:44] JontheEchidna: just flashes here [23:44] yeah, I get grey flashes since compositing is off [23:44] also due mouse focus loss, since the tooltip steals it [23:45] isnt there some way to make widgets not accept focus or something? [23:46] i.e. even if the tooltip would place itself ontop of the icon the icon would still have focus [23:48] apparently not [23:49] wow, I don't think that APT has any API to write a configuration file [23:49] hm, maybe as a solution the tooltip should just be drawn above the icon [23:50] wah, now I need in like 5 hours and didnt have sleep nor am finished packing [23:50] maybe they thought that setting it during runtime via cmdline args would be OK since it was developed for apt-get [23:50] clearly someone will be sleeping high above the clouds ^^ [23:50] ^^ [23:51] JontheEchidna: indeed it sounds like something they could have considered OK ^^ [23:51] this means that I'll have to write my own config parser :( [23:51] JontheEchidna: is it not standard ini format? [23:52] wow, the maverick live (desktop) installer looks *nice* [23:52] apachelogger: here's an example: APT::Install-Recommends "true"; [23:52] oh [23:52] true [23:52] it looks like a unicorn fart right there [23:54] * apachelogger is happy to say that he is very unorganized and might end up taking a train in the wrong direction, missing his flight :D [23:54] LibQApt will be the first APT wrapper that will actually let you write config without writing your own parser, mark my words! [23:54] :D [23:55] any bets on whether our dictator will announce that unity is being rewritten using Qt?