[00:00] lontra: just checking the control centre [00:03] phillw: good news :) [00:04] gilir: to keep it consistent I'm really just ripping off phillw's howto for minimal and changing what needs it :) [00:11] head_victim: sounds good :) [00:12] * gilir is a bite disconnected, it will be better next week :) [00:12] gilir: how do I do about torretning the little horror (I mean iso) [00:13] gilir: let me try that again... slowly; How do I go about getting the iso torrented ? [00:15] phillw: do you create the file .torrent for it ? [00:16] it's sat on my server, whilst they will allow betas of lubuntu on there, they do not allow torrenting or IRC stuff. [00:17] gilir: Derrick, however, will once we get the ubuntu 10.10 server set up on his dedicated server :) [00:20] so my fonts at lxdm are sharp but when i enter lxde they are all fuzzy ... any ideas? it's really quite painful to my eyes [00:21] lontra: I've been following the chat, but I'm sorry that I have no ideas as to what the problem may be. :'( [00:22] yeah googling this doesn't seem to solve anything [00:23] i tried using gnome-appearance-properties but that only installs gnome and then it doesn't work in lxde anyways [00:23] lontra: could you ask on the mailing list? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/GettingInvolved We don't spam, and there could well be one of the people there who can help you. [00:24] the lxde developers mailiing list? [00:25] brb [00:25] we all work in different time zones, no, the lubuntu mailing list - if we get no joy from there, then feel free to ask on the lxde group; I'd prefer it is sorted within lubuntu as someone else will have the same problem. But you're welcome to mail both lists. [00:26] ok [00:26] phillw: To start the torrent, it will be nice that people which have the .iso, also download the torrent, so they can immediatly start to seed the .iso [00:27] gilir: okies, I can seed for a while as I've just topped my 3G dongle up. [00:28] gilir: once head_victim has got it written up, I'll email the list and ask that people become seeders. [00:31] phillw, i don't actually see mailing list [00:35] gilir: it was quite an outstanding piece of work. Reading the email I could barely follow the convoluted process that was needed, but do seem to have a working alternate install :D [00:37] so i have to join the lubuntu team to be on the mailing list? [00:37] phillw: yes, it will be very useful :) [00:38] lontra: As far as I know, you need a launchpad account to join a mailing list. [00:42] gilir: just on the other topic of i586, is it feasable to support 10.04 ? [00:45] phillw, email sent ... i think [00:49] yeah if you look here ... http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/enable-smooth-fonts-on-ubuntu-linux/ [00:49] i want the first image not the second image [00:49] phillw: if it's only support updates for LXDE packages and Lubuntu specific packages, yes it's feasable [00:50] phillw: it could also be a good training for someone who want to start learning packaging ;) [00:51] gilir: I've just read the email. I have no problem with the 10.04 link back up, seems like we do need it. [00:51] gilir: I'll ask on UBT to see if there is a slave who is interested in that (ooops, meant padawan). [00:53] I've currently got my maximum of 2, although I may granted an exception for bioterror. [00:53] does lxde get it's fonts from a separate place than lxdm? [00:53] gilir: ^^^ ? [00:55] again brb [00:55] * lontra playing and testing fonts === yofel_ is now known as yofel [00:56] ah fonts problem ... [00:59] the only way to modify fonts with a GUI, is to used lxfontconfig, in lxadmin (using this PPA https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~lxadmin-team/+archive/testing) [01:00] * gilir is leaving [01:05] lontra: I think I lead you astray it's possible font rendering isn't available to Lubuntu but you might just be able to sort it out by adjusting the default fonts or the size of them. [01:31] hello, have i joined the lubuntu channel correctly [01:31] ? [01:32] Yes [01:32] This is the support channel for Lubuntu :) [01:33] and we're here to help you :) [01:33] thank you head_victim. does anyone know how to use different screen resolutions for different uses? [01:35] I have two users who need large letters for their poor vision. while the other two of us, would really prefer fitting as much info on the screen as possible. however i havnt found a way to save resolution preferences per user. the only way i can find to adjust the resolution, does so for all user. :( [01:36] hmmm are they using ldm or gdm as their display manager? [01:37] *lxdm [01:37] slooksterpsv1, we're using lxdm as display manager [01:38] hiyas slooksterpsv1 [01:38] yeah I should know that one; I think gdm may have better results in changing the resolution when changing users [01:38] ih phillw [01:39] I can't say for sure, but... well I'll try it in a vm and let you know if that works ok Mountian_Man [01:39] I am sorry, I am still learning linux. it is the default. the cammand (when i looked under propperties of the icon) is " lxrand" i think sorry ditracted by toddler [01:40] Mountian_Man: If they sign on as different users it should save their profiles [01:41] lxrand is the one to alter screen properties, however it should remember them for each user. [01:41] xfce and lxde are more amazing everytime i see them :D [01:41] nope i have signed in as each user individually and it adjusts the resolution for all. (preferences>monitor settings) [01:42] Mountian_Man: I'll file a bug, the devs will get it fixed for you, just give them a bit of time. [01:43] nope that didn't work :( [01:44] Hmm [01:44] How are you changing the resolution? [01:44] phillw thank you very much I noticed in ubuntu that there were two different routes to adjust the resolution. is there a similar possible alternative for lubuntu? [01:45] head_victim: lxrand [01:45] head_victim (preferences>monitor settings) [01:45] *lxrandr I cannot type I apologize [01:46] Heh I was wondering if there was a place in somewhere you could put a lxrandr line in a post login that you could change for each user. [01:48] phillw is there a way i can follow the progress of the bug report? [01:48] Mountian_Man: if you subscribe to it on launchpad you'll receive all changes/comments [01:49] btw i absolutely love this os. my aunt has a pc that was given to her and it was like watching grass grow trying to use it. but with this lubuntu the pc is flying. [01:49] Mountian_Man: yes you can subscibe to a bug, but I've filed it via our mailing list as all the devs and other gurus will receive it. (It's a dirty cheat and not really supposed to be done). [01:50] thank you phillw so are you a dev? [01:50] Mountian_Man: no, I'm a documenter; I try to keep our hep files up to date. [01:51] *help* [01:51] phillwoh ok cool [01:51] Mountian_Man: so the devs do cut me a bit of slack when I go nag them :) [01:52] slooksterpsv1 well thank you for trying. [01:52] Mountian_Man: you're welcome, lol trying to see if there's a way I can get it to work, not going over so well lol [01:53] yeah i have been at it, though i have limited knowledge of linux system admin, all day [01:54] awesome lol [01:54] i am just stoked i was able to use this pc as a print server for a couple of windoze laptops aswell [01:54] I love Lubuntu - I just want a 64-bit iso port [01:55] oh yeah, the whole Debian area of Linux seems to make things easier and easier, and with Ubuntu they make it even easier [01:55] yeah even with out the 64 bit i am thinking about switching from ubuntu to lubuntu on my main laptop [01:56] well you can get the 64-bit version of Lubuntu either with having Ubuntu 64-bit installed then install lubuntu-desktop or there's also another way on the wiki, going through I believe a netinstall [01:56] Mountian_Man: you can use the 64 bit kernel for lubuntu, just we do not have an iso image for it. [01:57] Mountian_Man: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp/MinimalInstall [01:57] when it does come out I'll be the first one using it haha [01:57] oh ok. would it still keep the speed up if i used gnome apps though? [01:58] should - I don't see any reason why not [01:58] Mountian_Man: if you drag in the gnome library, your machine will slow down horrendusly [01:58] phillw: but doesn't some of the lubuntu programs use gnome libraries? [01:59] I did a remove with a guy earlier and he could not believe how faster his machine was after it. [01:59] meaning in my reasearch the selction of aps helps a great deal. i for sure saw a difference between lubuntu and linux mint xfce [01:59] slooksterpsv1: no gome libraries. [01:59] *gnome* [02:03] Mountian_Man: couldn't you insert a lxrandr setting into the Session startup for each user? [02:04] phillw: ok then I use a lot of gnome programs haha [02:06] head_victim I'm willing to try though i do not know how i would do this? [02:09] I'm googling, I need more bash scripting skills to accomplish this how I was thinking, through /etc/lxdm/Xsession [02:09] head_victim thank you for your effort. [02:22] i have to leave for a bit. ill be back though in an hour or so. (food!!!!) thank you all for being so helpful. [02:22] Mountian_Man: no dramas, if I find a workaround I'll let you know [02:25] phillw: so gnumeric and gnome-player don't require gnome libraries? [02:29] question for anyone that can answer, if Chrome (google chrome) is version 7.0.xxx why is Chromium for Lubuntu still 6.0.xxxx [02:32] head_victim I gots a question [02:32] What's that (sorry the reboot was because I was trying to find a keyboard shortcut and hit the wrong one :/) [02:33] if Chrome (google chrome) is version 7.0.xxx why is Chromium for Lubuntu still 6.0.xxxx [02:34] slooksterpsv1: it's because chrome is the version that sends all the spying bit to google and chromium does not. [02:34] slooksterpsv1: we prefer the spyware free version ;) [02:34] nice to see you drop in phillw haha [02:34] slooksterpsv1: PM [02:35] slooksterpsv1: chrome is a google product, chromium is an open source version of chrome, so they do have differences. [02:35] ok I like chromium then yay chromium [02:37] slooksterpsv1: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromium_%28web_browser%29#Differences_between_Chromium_and_Google_Chrome [02:37] head_victim: thank you =D [02:37] No worries, I hate paraphrasing stuff I'm not 100% certain on so I always try to find a half decent source [03:03] Mountian_Man: I can't get what I want to work sorry [03:03] hi all im back! [03:03] But http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-resize-screen-size-quickly.html could be something to look at until the bug is fixed [03:03] thats ok i really appreciate you trying though [03:05] yeah thanks i will give that a try and i bet they wont mind a one click solution for now :) [03:05] It's as simple as you're going to get without making it automated I think. [03:06] so are there and kind of reputation score on here, you know where i could show others how much i appreciate head_victim's assistance? [03:07] or just a sincere thank you? [03:08] A thanks is all I do it for, not sure if there is any system. [03:08] I usually learn as much out of it all as you will [03:09] Mountian_Man: just saying thank you is reward enough for any of us that help. [03:16] i take monetary thank you's as well [04:38] um, how do i do this with out gnome? [04:39] Right click on desktop > Select Create Launcher [08:33] Hello, guys! [08:33] Anybody here? [08:33] I am [08:34] Hi! [08:34] Can you help me to start LXDE instead of curent GUI in ubuntu??? [08:34] what? [08:34] :-) [08:34] you're running something [08:34] and you want to start LXDE [08:34] Ubuntu [08:34] Yes [08:34] okay [08:35] you have installed lubuntu-desktop? [08:35] I don't know :-) [08:35] How to check? [08:35] open terminal and say "sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop" [08:35] and answer yes if it asks something [08:36] ok [08:36] It processing smth [08:37] Outputing y all the time [08:37] :D [08:37] That is all? I'm downloading and starting your virus? :-) [08:38] yes [08:38] when you have that login screen [08:38] you can choose which desktop to use [08:38] Gnome, LXDE [08:38] and so on [08:38] from the left bottom of the screen [08:38] (at least, that's how it used to been ;) [08:39] Thanks! [08:39] How long are going to be here? [08:39] well, I'm kinda always here [08:40] That is great! :-) [08:40] it's Session [08:40] that menu where you can choose what you want to use as your desktop environment [08:42] bioterror: is there a difference from Lubuntu and LXDE for sessions? [08:42] well [08:42] lubuntu is that lxde [08:42] right [08:46] !lubuntu [08:46] lubuntu is a project to create a derivative of Ubuntu using the LXDE desktop environment. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu [08:48] so does that mean that the components that make up Lubuntu will be loaded for like power management, etc. where LXDE would use the defaults from what Ubuntu uses? [08:48] yes [08:48] when you install lubuntu, you get those loaded automatically on login [08:48] you dont have to worry about those [08:50] lol I installed Lubuntu desktop alongside ubuntu desktop [08:50] yeah [08:50] you can do that [08:51] and when you run lubuntu desktop, you can remove ubuntu desktop ;) [08:51] NOO that removes all my applications I use hehe [08:56] Chiz, have you downloaded all the needed files? [09:02] Thumbs up on the speed and low memory usage for 10.10. I tried 6 different distro to try to breath life into an ancient 266 Mhz, 128MB notebook. Lubuntu was the only one I could even get to install. I thought it was a lost cause, but it actually runs OK. Unbelievable! [09:03] nice to hear [09:03] len, we have now a alternate install cd, which makes installation on that kind of machines even easier [09:03] an alternate... [09:04] I also has an old 600mhz 512MB machine with Kubuntu 10.10 installed. It ran so sluggishly it was unusable. I changed it to Lubuntu 10.10 and it's snappy now. The difference is incredible. [09:04] oh yeah [09:04] 512MB and 600MHz is not enough for KDE 4 [09:05] it might look nice, but the desktop is sloow [09:05] KDE is the most resource hungry Desktop Environment you can find for X [09:05] bioterror, Cool. I wish I'd had that because the install took hours and hours becuase the intall program itself took every drop of memory and it was paging back and forth to disk for hours. [09:05] tru [09:06] len, it became public last night ;) [09:06] Great. Manybe I can revive some more "junk" machines from the grave now :) [09:07] I et you can [09:07] bet [09:08] Stability is great too, with one exception. One one of the notebooks, the screensaver closes the session when it kicks in and brings it back to login. I assume it is crashing x-server. [09:09] yes [09:09] I usually disable the xscreensaver [09:09] It works fine with screensaver disabled. [09:10] I don't care about fancy screensavers, but I would at least like the "blank screen" on to work. [09:11] I put my laptop on sleep when I dont need it. it resumes so fast and connects to wireless [09:12] that it's almost same [09:13] can you set it to go to sleep automatically and x minutes of inactivity just like a screensaver? [09:14] len, press the battery icon on your systemtray and click prerences. there's "display" put display to sleep when iactive for: [09:15] len & Chiz, can you join #lubuntu-offtopic [09:15] it's more layback channel without logging for talking about lubuntu and other stuff, this channel is mainly for helping with prolems ;) [09:15] Ah, OK. I don't have a battery widget for some reason. I assume that is supped to be there by default. Maybe it only shows when you're on battery. [09:15] ahh yes, you can configure it from there [09:16] plug the powercord off and click the icon [09:18] Yup, that was it. [09:18] now you get blank screen === Mohan_chml is now known as IndianaJones === IndianaJones is now known as Mohan_chml [14:15] how do I enable wireless [14:15] !wireless [14:15] Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs [14:22] hi [14:23] could you help me with network connection by default in LXCE [14:24] yes [14:24] what's your problem [15:16] is there a gwibber like application for Lubuntu [16:18] hi how can i set the frequency seletor [16:21] I need to have show desktop featue also [16:21] one speed means full speed! ;) [16:22] next from lxde menu [16:22] is show desktop [16:22] i have lxde menu file manager and web browser [16:23] http://images.maketecheasier.com/2010/05/lubuntu-desktop.jpg [16:23] you see that chromium [16:23] next to it [16:24] Oh that one ok :) [16:24] also this frequency selector applet is not letting me change freq [16:25] I need that because the computer heats up fast hence need to reduce cycles [16:26] otherwise LXDE is just fast and good [16:28] you cant change those from BIOS? [16:29] no I just need to lower it when required it just cools up [16:29] Gnome has that CPU selector thing [16:31] is it really so that the CPU Frequency application does not work? [16:31] there is a plugin you can add to panel called spufrq front end that doesnt allowq me to change just view [16:32] hmmm [16:32] uno momento [16:32] I'll fire LXDE to my desktop [16:32] Right [16:33] okay [16:34] I dont have one? [16:34] add to panel [16:34] and chose cpu freq front end [16:34] add / remove panel items [16:34] Yeah [16:36] I would like to know what you've installed [16:37] lxde basically [16:37] Do you see add items ? Many of them [16:37] Add Panel Items - Panel Applets - CPUFRQ fontend [16:38] I'm running 10.10 [16:38] and I dont have one [16:39] cant find anything like that with my apt-cache [16:40] I installed maverick and then installed lxde . It appears in my comp as cpufreq frontend . its a applet you can add to the Panel [16:40] how do I search the apt-cache ? [16:40] apt-cache search something [16:40] or lets say view an installed package ? [16:40] apt-cache show something [16:41] thegladiator, dpkg -l [16:41] not sure but when I give a search it says thegladiator@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-cache search cpufreq frontend [16:41] xfce4-goodies - enhancements for the Xfce4 Desktop Environment [16:41] haha [16:41] niice [16:41] lol [16:42] * CPU frequency management plugin (xfce4-cpufreq-plugin) [16:42] will install that [16:43] that was from the xfce4-goodies [16:43] oh [16:43] apt-cache show xfce4-goodies [16:43] ;) [16:43] right so i think have to check some other options because its not in LXDE [16:46] well [16:46] thegladiator, come hang with us on #lubuntu-offtopic ;) === claymore_ is now known as brbmore === brbmore is now known as claymore_ === claymore_ is now known as brbmore === brbmore is now known as claymore_ [17:03] does anybody know md5 of the alternate iso? the link on the maillist appears broken... [17:11] mmaksimov: is it the same link as on the wiki at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp/AlternateInstall [17:11] http://phillw.net/lubuntu-10.10-alternate.iso [17:39] head_victim, not the link to the iso but md5 checksum of it [17:55] how do I change the key that switches keyboard layouts? [17:58] mmaksimov: if it helps I can md5 a copy of it here that worked for me? [18:00] mmaksimov: as far as shortcut keys go have a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1422861 for ideas [18:02] Sorry I'm a bit slow at the moment, coming and going from the computer. [18:03] my eth0 won't register sometimes until i reboot and it's fine. [18:07] czz: does it give any errors? [18:09] If it mentions unmanaged networks then have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp/MinimalInstall#Unmanaged%20Wired%20Network for some solutions [18:19] head_victim, it would be nice to have an md5 of a known-to-work image. [18:23] mmaksimov: 1932a563c99ae40721d1f37c3804c372 [18:23] head_victim, no, it doesnt recognize my nic card [18:23] czz: and it's never had a problem before? [18:23] it has happened before [18:23] even on unr [18:24] it always solves the issue once i reboot [18:26] head_victim, unfortunately lubuntu-rc.xml does not have a binding for keyboard layout switching.... any other ideas? ugh, and thanks for the checksum [18:28] czz: I'd say it's a hardware issue then if it's an intermittant fault with different installations. [18:28] anyone have experience installing Virtual Box guest additions for Lubuntu? [18:28] Slurpee: work fine for me [18:29] mmaksimov: read the last comment on the forum post. [18:30] czz: is it a pci card? If so I'd try removing it, cleaning the contacts and reseating it. [18:32] head_victim, which comment? lubuntu-rc instead of lxde-rc? I know which one is correct, however it does not have the binding to switch layout (and I don't think it is done this way) [18:33] head_victim, I am able to get the VBox additions to install, but I run into X Window driver issues and can't go full screen. Any ideas? I have tried updating, upgrading, grabbing gcc, dif headers, etc. [18:33] Ah k, I was only going on what they were suggesting. [18:33] head_victim, not a pci card [18:33] Slurpee: you might need to update virtualbox itself, older versions don't support xorg 1.9 [18:34] Slurpee: I had that issue before 3.2.10 came out [18:36] head_victim, thanks for feedback. Trying new version of vbox now. [18:36] czz: oh ok, just seems odd it's happening to multiple installations. [18:36] Slurpee: no worries mate [18:43] head_victim, looks like ubuntu repo kept defaulting to 3.10. I am manually grabbing 3.2.10 from vbox site. [18:44] Slurpee: yeah I use the PUEL version from the site, has much better USB support [18:47] k looks like I need to remove 3.10. going to reboot to be safe. [18:47] ill let you know how it goes :) [18:47] brb [18:47] Slurpee: no dramas mate cheers [18:48] head_victim: howdy [18:49] stlsaint: morning [19:04] head_victim, whoa this vbox upgrade is a big diff! [19:04] Do all of the 3.2 versions have the Oracle stuff plastered everywhere? ;0 [19:04] yep :D [19:05] Slurpee: head_victim is heading for bed, as it is 03:30 in Australia :) [19:05] Well hopefully Oracle fixes my issue :) [19:06] I created lubuntu2 vm with the new version [19:06] figured i will start fresh on both systems. [19:06] I was installing all sorts of headers, packages, dkms, etc. [19:06] I updated my host too. [19:07] Shall I run anything special in fresh version of lubuntu to fully install all of the vbox guest additions? [19:24] huh, another try.... how do I change the key that switches keyboard layouts? [19:58] hi. i just installed lubuntu on my old acer aspire 1.5ghz 512mb ram laptop. i had ubuntu on it before. with ubuntu the left-right scroll thing on my touchpad worked,but not with lubuntu. the up/down scroll works on lubuntu though. and the power button on ubuntu used to bring up prompt to shutdown/restart/logoff, but on lubuntu nothing happens. i thought ubuntu and lubuntu were the same thing. can i fix this? [20:00] hblount: they are not the same, linux based yes but different environments and tweaks [20:02] hblount: I'm confused (nothing new) " left-right scroll thing on my touchpad worked,but not with lubuntu. the up/down scroll works on lubuntu though" [20:02] I havent had any problems with that scrolling on touchpad [20:02] ahh, yes up n down [20:02] neither have I [20:03] I've never owned that new touchpad, or hitech ;) [20:03] up/down works. left/right don't. on ubuntu it did. someone told me ubuntu is supposed to function same but guess not [20:03] * phillw repeats :) [20:03] lubuntu != ubuntu with gnome [20:04] did I remember that one right :) [20:04] hblount: are you on launchapd? [20:04] *launchpad* [20:04] phillw: whats that [20:05] hblount: it's where you tell the ubuntu community a bit about about you. [20:05] oh.no sorry im noob [20:06] do i ever need an antivirus or spyware thing with lubuntu? [20:06] no you dont [20:07] hblount: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/GettingInvolved that will allow you to email to the devs, that way they can have a look at your problem for you and you even get a reply :) [20:07] phillw: cool thanks. i like lubuntu alot so far [20:08] hblount: thanks for that, it makes what we do all worthwhile when people say it :) [20:09] hblount: you may consider joining the #lubuntu-offtopic channel, we just chill out in there and have a laugh. [20:10] that's active channel [20:10] alot of talk in there nowdays ;) [20:11] bioterror: well, to be honest, 10.10 has been that stable it's been pretty boring in here !!! [20:12] hahaha [20:12] too good === claymore_ is now known as brbmore === brbmore is now known as claymore_ [20:19] how smooth does live boot lubuntu on a usb drive run? [20:20] depends on machine [20:20] with my dell d420 it's fast and quick [20:20] with hp nc8320 or something like that it was, it was slow [20:20] with hp 2540p it was fast [20:21] ok cool. how different is running off usb vs installing on HDD? [20:21] with usb you get lags becouse it's not that fast [20:21] ~8MB/s vs 40MB/s ; [20:21] ;) [20:22] makes sense. thanks [20:22] yeah [20:22] i like to boot sometimes my pendrive [20:22] which I made installing from CD-R to my USB stick [20:22] I can suggest it [20:24] cool.do u get all functionality with usb boot? [20:26] yes [20:26] cool. i want to try usb boot and tether my smartphone for mobile broadband [20:26] :) [20:27] if you end up buying a new laptop, you can go to store, stick your pendrive into that machine and boot up and do some testings :D [20:28] never thought of that. thats sounds fun [20:29] yeah, if it doesnt work out of the box "sorry, no deal" :D [20:32] haha [20:32] pendrive? [20:32] czz, linux on usb key [20:33] key, stick, what ever you want to call it [20:34] just curious [20:38] hblount: it's also an idea to test if the WiFi works, else if it is broadcom, you need some extra stuff. [20:38] oh [20:39] new hp compaq's uses broadcom :P [20:39] hblount: broadcom chips are not a problem, just *buntu cannot include the drivers by default. [20:40] phillw: i see. thanks [20:42] hblount: the latest chip set is covered at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx But it's not too hard to navigate back. === claymore_ is now known as brbmore === brbmore is now known as claymore_ [21:53] !grub2 | kosaidpo [21:53] kosaidpo: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since Ubuntu 9.10. For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 [21:53] phillw: okies [21:53] thanks [21:55] phillw: i got this as vesrion grub-install (GRUB) 1.98+20100804-5ubuntu3 [21:56] kosaidpo: that's grub2 [21:56] I have a resolution of 1024x600 [21:56] uhm how so it says 1.98 : D [21:57] kosaidpo: because they have not decided to make it v2.00001 yet. but 1.98 is grub2 [21:58] hahaha okies i see [21:58] what is the aspect ration of that resolution? [21:58] MonthOLDpickle: if you tell me the monitor, I'll go and see if I can google it for you. [21:58]