| charlie-tca | Oh, I feel better now. I felt like crap all week! | 00:24 |
|---|---|---|
| BUGabundo | I still do | 00:25 |
| charlie-tca | but you have a good reaon to | 00:26 |
| BUGabundo | I do? | 00:27 |
| charlie-tca | Didn't you just get over the flu? | 00:27 |
| BUGabundo | no | 00:27 |
| charlie-tca | oh, then you don't have a reason either | 00:28 |
| BUGabundo | aha | 00:28 |
| charlie-tca | :-) | 00:28 |
| BUGabundo | charlie-tca: http://acidcow.com/pics/20101022/acid_picdump_114.jpg | 00:42 |
| charlie-tca | hehehe | 00:54 |
| charlie-tca | My kind of worker ;-) | 00:54 |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| lukus | hi | 01:20 |
| lukus | i have a problem with 10.10 .. when my machine hibernates - when it resumes my bluetooth mouse no longer works | 01:21 |
| bazhang | lukus, #ubuntu for 10.10 | 01:21 |
| charlie-tca | !support | 01:21 |
| ubottu | #ubuntu+1 handles support for the development version of Ubuntu. Please join #ubuntu for all other Ubuntu support. Chat in #ubuntu-offtopic. | 01:21 |
| charlie-tca | Well, wish me luck. Upgrading a fresh maverick install to natty (again) | 01:46 |
| alex_mayorga | charlie-tca: needless to ask, but how broken is natty? | 01:47 |
| charlie-tca | I don't know yet. I am still trying to upgrade to it | 01:47 |
| BUGabundo | see? | 01:49 |
| BUGabundo | that's why I upgrade on day one | 01:49 |
| BUGabundo | less chance of breakage | 01:49 |
| alex_mayorga | BUGabundo: wise guy you are | 01:50 |
| charlie-tca | I broke it bad last nite trying to upgrade | 01:50 |
| alex_mayorga | pondering if I should jump in already too | 01:50 |
| alex_mayorga | I can't post to twitter with gnome-do so maverick is useless for me :) | 01:50 |
| charlie-tca | jumping. It only takes me a couple of hours each install of maverick | 01:51 |
| alex_mayorga | "Account validation failed!" anyone else? | 01:51 |
| charlie-tca | Oh, and a couple more hours to upgrade to natty and break it | 01:51 |
| charlie-tca | Don't use gwibber myself. I only use xchat | 01:51 |
| alex_mayorga | charlie-tca: almost as effective as automated testing :D | 01:51 |
| alex_mayorga | charlie-tca: trying gnome-do over here | 01:52 |
| charlie-tca | ah, xubuntu! | 01:52 |
| BUGabundo | hours?? | 01:52 |
| charlie-tca | hours | 01:52 |
| charlie-tca | What? new system? | 01:53 |
| charlie-tca | I bought the 64bit about 4 years ago now | 01:53 |
| BUGabundo | 3 yo laptop | 01:53 |
| BUGabundo | with brand new SSD | 01:53 |
| charlie-tca | single core, athon 2.2Ghz | 01:53 |
| BUGabundo | c2d 2.4 | 01:53 |
| BUGabundo | t8300 | 01:54 |
| charlie-tca | I think I only buy whatever is obsolete at the time | 01:54 |
| alex_mayorga | whatever you buy is probably obsolete by the time you pay for it | 01:55 |
| charlie-tca | No, not here. Whatever I buy is on closeout clearance already | 01:55 |
| alex_mayorga | BUGabundo: can you tweet from gnome-do on natty | 01:55 |
| alex_mayorga | charlie-tca: my favorite department in computer stores | 01:56 |
| BUGabundo | Alex not even configured | 01:57 |
| BUGabundo | never used it | 01:57 |
| alex_mayorga | BUGabundo: twitter or do? | 01:58 |
| BUGabundo | gnome-do posting to µblogs | 01:58 |
| alex_mayorga | BUGabundo: can you do a test for me please? | 02:00 |
| BUGabundo | Errors were encountered while processing: | 02:01 |
| BUGabundo | /var/cache/apt/archives/openjdk-6-jre-headless_6b20-1.10~pre2-0ubuntu5_amd64.deb | 02:01 |
| alex_mayorga | it's for sure broken on maverick :( | 02:01 |
| === emma is now known as EMMA | ||
| BUGabundo | can't even see what's in the screen | 02:01 |
| charlie-tca | That's right. I forgot about my super speed internet. Just 200 more downloads to begin install packages | 02:17 |
| BUGabundo | 8mb/s here | 02:20 |
| charlie-tca | 150K here | 02:21 |
| charlie-tca | oh, 150Kb/s | 02:21 |
| charlie-tca | when it works. right now it looks like 80Kb/s | 02:22 |
| BUGabundo | eewwww | 02:22 |
| alex_mayorga | BUGabundo: nice, what type of connection is that one? | 02:22 |
| charlie-tca | see, back to hours | 02:22 |
| BUGabundo | adsl 2+ | 02:22 |
| alex_mayorga | 2+? | 02:23 |
| BUGabundo | its how its called | 02:23 |
| BUGabundo | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asymmetric_Digital_Subscriber_Line | 02:24 |
| alex_mayorga | I see, guess my country is still stuck in ADSL | 02:26 |
| bjsnider | charlie-tca, that's pretty bad | 02:26 |
| BUGabundo | we are on fiber now | 02:27 |
| BUGabundo | ppl getting 122mbits/s | 02:27 |
| BUGabundo | I love this kind of dumb reports http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=60382 | 02:28 |
| charlie-tca | seems simple - Open settings, it crashes | 02:33 |
| BUGabundo | right | 02:34 |
| BUGabundo | but not always | 02:34 |
| charlie-tca | Oh, One of those | 02:35 |
| === BUGabundo is now known as BUGabundo_cookie | ||
| BUGabundo_cookie | charlie-tca: so my slow upstream of 100KB/s is faster then your downstream | 02:39 |
| BUGabundo_cookie | wow that hurts | 02:39 |
| bjsnider | BUGabundo_cookie, rubbing it in | 02:40 |
| BUGabundo_cookie | no.. its slow... really | 02:40 |
| BUGabundo_cookie | everyone I know, around here, has faster | 02:40 |
| BUGabundo_cookie | like, my boss has a bigger piper then our DCs links :S | 02:41 |
| alex_mayorga | BUGabundo_cookie: what TLD are you at? | 02:43 |
| charlie-tca | Everybody I know is faster too | 02:44 |
| alex_mayorga | charlie-tca: your TLD? | 02:49 |
| alex_mayorga | I'm in .mx and get ~210Kb/s downstream | 02:49 |
| charlie-tca | same error today! base files failed to upgrade | 02:54 |
| charlie-tca | Well, I guess this will wait until alpha1 to upgrade after all | 02:54 |
| charlie-tca | I don't my TLD | 02:55 |
| BUGabundo_cookie | http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=60382#c1 LOOOOOOOOL | 02:55 |
| BUGabundo_cookie | Portugal | 02:56 |
| charlie-tca | I give up | 02:56 |
| charlie-tca | good night | 02:56 |
| BUGabundo_cookie | nite | 02:57 |
| === BUGabundo_cookie is now known as BUGabundo | ||
| BUGabundo | bou mimir. guud nite | 04:26 |
| === Mohan_chml is now known as IndianaJones | ||
| === IndianaJones is now known as Mohan_chml | ||
| penguin42 | ooh a nice new fresh +1 channel | 12:22 |
| yofel | wb penguin42 :) | 12:43 |
| penguin42 | hi yofel | 12:43 |
| === EMMA is now known as emma | ||
| macman_ | BUGabundo, are you a bot ? | 14:38 |
| BUGabundo | aahah | 14:38 |
| * penguin42 oils BUGabundo | 14:39 | |
| * BUGabundo drips | 14:39 | |
| charlie-tca | Lessons forgot when upgrading to Ubuntu+1 - Must remove Nvidia hardware driver before the upgrade | 14:42 |
| BUGabundo | lol | 14:42 |
| penguin42 | charlie-tca: I have a bug 636418 saying that Jockey should warn users about that :-) | 14:47 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 636418 in jockey (Ubuntu) "update should clean up/warn about jockey" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/636418 | 14:47 |
| penguin42 | probably wouldn't help this early though | 14:48 |
| charlie-tca | hm, the catch is I can install them after upgrading the system to natty. I just can not upgrade with them installed | 14:58 |
| penguin42 | so, do-release-upgrade -d doesn't do anything yet, and update-manager -d doesn't do anything yet - so is the correct way apt-get dist-upgrade ? | 15:01 |
| charlie-tca | Change sources.list manually and then apt-get dist-upgrade | 15:02 |
| penguin42 | ah ok, the old school way | 15:02 |
| Monotoko | penguin42, its because its really early on...you have to change it all | 15:02 |
| charlie-tca | But, if nvidia hardware driver is installed, you break it. I reinstalled maverick 4 times before I got it right | 15:02 |
| BUGabundo | ahahah | 15:03 |
| penguin42 | nah, it's Intel on this <---- machine | 15:03 |
| BUGabundo | good reason to stick with nouveu | 15:03 |
| BUGabundo | penguin42: no changes to DIST so you can't dist-upgrade | 15:03 |
| BUGabundo | sed your sources and do a aptitude full-upgrade | 15:04 |
| BUGabundo | good luck... you will need it | 15:04 |
| penguin42 | ah, there we go - 503 updated packages, 30 new | 15:04 |
| penguin42 | for natty, this channel really should be something like 'life at the sharp end' | 15:07 |
| charlie-tca | I did the dist-upgrade after changes the sources | 15:11 |
| === Monotoko is now known as Daniel2 | ||
| BUGabundo | I'm still amazed debian unstable is on 2.6.32 | 15:11 |
| BUGabundo | charlie-tca: go with aptitude | 15:11 |
| BUGabundo | there are two packages broken | 15:11 |
| charlie-tca | I never use aptitude | 15:12 |
| * penguin42 really should look at some debian bugs, there is a local debian bug day meeting in a few weeks and it seems worthy | 15:12 | |
| BUGabundo | you should | 15:12 |
| BUGabundo | how is skype latelly ? | 15:13 |
| BUGabundo | can't get ppl to use mumble as much as I would like | 15:13 |
| BUGabundo | so I guess ill have to install skype | 15:13 |
| BUGabundo | is this wiki up to date? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype | 15:14 |
| BUGabundo | Failed to fetch http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/dists/stable/non-free/binary-amd64/Packages.gz 404 Not Found [IP: 204.9.165.82 80] | 15:18 |
| BUGabundo | guess not | 15:18 |
| === wzssyqa1 is now known as wzssyqa | ||
| * penguin42 reboots - see you in Natty | 17:33 | |
| penguin42 | wahey! | 17:45 |
| penguin42 | ooh the nominate for release now lets you natty something | 17:53 |
| Craigwdy2k | I just tried to install AMD64 Kubuntu 10.10: it seems to be having trouble seeing my pre-existing Root Ext3 Partition... What should I do...? | 18:07 |
| penguin42 | Craigwdy2k: This channel is now for 11.04, 10.10 is in #ubuntu | 18:08 |
| penguin42 | Craigwdy2k: However, I'd check to see if you can see the root partition from the install CD and go from there | 18:08 |
| Craigwdy2k | When did Kubuntu 11.04 come out...? | 18:09 |
| penguin42 | it hasn't yet - that's why this channel is +1 - i.e. the next version | 18:09 |
| Craigwdy2k | I see: yeah: not only can it not see my partition but I got a weird X Low Resolution display error after attempting to use the Rescue a Broken System boot option... | 18:12 |
| Craigwdy2k | I tried to reconfigure X but then I get stuck in a infinite configuring Display Loop... | 18:13 |
| penguin42 | ooh, my first natty upgrade failure | 18:43 |
| charlie-tca | How lucky can you get, huh? | 18:50 |
| penguin42 | charlie-tca: Well that's 50/50 :-) | 18:50 |
| penguin42 | update-grub seems to have screwed up the paths | 18:51 |
| penguin42 | don't suppose anyone has a grub.cfg from a machine with a separate /boot that I could compar ewith? | 18:57 |
| penguin42 | ah, it's bug 665471 | 19:07 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 665471 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "[natty] GRUB no longer finds kernel with separate /boot partition" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/665471 | 19:07 |
| yofel | penguin42: I have a natty machine with seperate /boot here (that is still running 2.6.35 since I never bothered to reboot..) | 19:30 |
| yofel | oh, and still has maverick grub installed.. | 19:31 |
| yofel | penguin42: if it helps, grub.cfg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/518863/ | 19:31 |
| yofel | /boot is sdb1 / is sdb7 | 19:32 |
| penguin42 | yofel: Right, I'd bet on that not rebooting | 19:46 |
| yofel | ah wait, that has natty grub installed, I looked at the wrong ssh session -.- | 19:48 |
| penguin42 | yofel: Don't worry, now I've found the other bug I don't need it | 19:48 |
| yofel | yeah right, '/boot' isn't supposed to be there.. | 19:50 |
| * penguin42 wonders why the iscs_trgt module has gone missing, I can see it's still in the git tree and I can see the config is still on | 20:01 | |
| penguin42 | looks like next to nothing from the ubuntu tree in the kernel is built in the 2.6.36 package | 20:36 |
| grubhelp | Hello, In order for me to be able to boot. I need to edit my "linux" line and change /boot/ to '(hd0,msdos1)' each time. I have tried to reinstall grub2 and I still get the "Error no file found" and "Error must load kernel first" messages on boot. | 20:57 |
| grubhelp | Ohh and my initrd line also. | 20:58 |
| grubhelp | Any help would be appreciated. | 20:58 |
| grubhelp | http://paste.ubuntu.com/518896/ | 21:00 |
| penguin42 | grubhelp: Welcome to bug 665471 | 21:02 |
| ubottu | Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out (https://launchpad.net/bugs/665471) | 21:02 |
| penguin42 | I said, bug 665471 | 21:02 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 665471 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "[natty] GRUB no longer finds kernel with separate /boot partition" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/665471 | 21:02 |
| grubhelp | Ahh k, thought I broke something | 21:03 |
| grubhelp | Thanks penguin42 | 21:03 |
| BUGa_brokenkerne | hey guys on last boot, the kernel upgrade boosted | 21:54 |
| BUGa_brokenkerne | cant boot anymore | 21:54 |
| BUGa_brokenkerne | grub complains it needs to select a kernel | 21:54 |
| BUGa_brokenkerne | but i didnt change anything in grub recently | 21:55 |
| === DanaG1 is now known as DanaG | ||
| BUGa_brokenkerne | hey DanaG | 21:55 |
| BUGa_brokenkerne | u have a G1 ? | 21:56 |
| penguin42 | BUGa_brokenkerne: Bug 665471 | 21:56 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 665471 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "[natty] GRUB no longer finds kernel with separate /boot partition" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/665471 | 21:57 |
| BUGa_brokenkerne | aaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh | 21:57 |
| BUGa_brokenkerne | any work around? | 21:57 |
| BUGa_brokenkerne | i have /boot on ext4 because of BTRFS | 21:57 |
| penguin42 | just edit the /boot out of the kernel and initrd lines | 21:57 |
| BUGa_brokenkerne | ohh its just a grub bug? | 21:58 |
| BUGa_brokenkerne | i can downgrade from cache version, right ? | 21:58 |
| penguin42 | BUGa_brokenkerne: I think it's update-grub that's the problem | 21:58 |
| BUGa_brokenkerne | probably | 21:58 |
| penguin42 | BUGa_brokenkerne: The devs just put that type of thing in to keep those of us silly enough to try it this early on our toes | 21:59 |
| BUGa_brokenkerne | :) | 21:59 |
| penguin42 | BUGa_brokenkerne: I was tempted to file a separate bug that grub doesn't let you get back to the menu from that point | 22:00 |
| BUGa_brokenkerne | ok, let me reboot and change directly in grub console | 22:02 |
| BUGa_brokenkerne | to see if that works | 22:02 |
| BUGabundo | thanks penguin42 | 22:04 |
| BUGabundo | that worked marvelous | 22:04 |
| BUGabundo | penguin42: can you tell me the bug again? | 22:07 |
| BUGabundo | so I can CC | 22:07 |
| penguin42 | 665471 | 22:07 |
| BUGabundo | bug 665471 | 22:07 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 665471 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "[natty] GRUB no longer finds kernel with separate /boot partition" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/665471 | 22:07 |
| penguin42 | it's almost worth topicing that one | 22:08 |
| BUGabundo | I would say so | 22:08 |
| BUGabundo | humm what OP is awaked at this hour ? | 22:09 |
| BUGabundo | on a saturday night? | 22:09 |
| BUGabundo | ikonia: jpds: please put bug 665471 on /topic. thanks | 22:09 |
| ikonia | hang on | 22:10 |
| ubottu | Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out (https://launchpad.net/bugs/665471) | 22:10 |
| BUGabundo | kk | 22:10 |
| penguin42 | something between launchpad and the bot isn't very happy tonight | 22:10 |
| ikonia | does that need to be in the topic ? | 22:10 |
| ikonia | (I find it quite serious, it would affect me personally quite bad) | 22:10 |
| BUGabundo | ikonia: it would have helped me | 22:11 |
| ikonia | did this not happen until an update ? | 22:11 |
| BUGabundo | and we usually use /topic for this kinda of stuff | 22:11 |
| penguin42 | ikonia: Lot of people hitting it | 22:11 |
| ikonia | or has this been there from day one | 22:11 |
| BUGabundo | serious bugs that affect a large part of users | 22:11 |
| BUGabundo | ikonia: it hit me today | 22:11 |
| ikonia | I don't disagree, it's just the first I've read of it | 22:12 |
| BUGabundo | was fine last night and this morning | 22:12 |
| ikonia | so it's an update | 22:12 |
| BUGabundo | and since its weekend, won't probably be addressed until Monday | 22:12 |
| BUGabundo | I think it was kernel 2.6.36.1 | 22:12 |
| penguin42 | ikonia: Read back, I asked about it a few hours ago, and there were one or two others inbetween - not sure anything else has been asked about! | 22:12 |
| BUGabundo | at least its in my latest batch of aptgetables | 22:12 |
| ikonia | hang on | 22:12 |
| ikonia | for some odd reason I was working on 10.10 in my head, sorry | 22:13 |
| BUGabundo | eheh | 22:13 |
| BUGabundo | nope | 22:13 |
| BUGabundo | 11.04 in here | 22:13 |
| penguin42 | ikonia: Bah that's old :-) | 22:13 |
| ikonia | I know, sorry, I lost track | 22:13 |
| BUGabundo | yeah, that's old | 22:13 |
| ikonia | Natty Narwhal 11.04 | UDS Oct 25-29 | Happy Bug Hunting! |Maverick/10.10 support in #ubuntu | seperate /boot user - Narwhal is broke, check bug #665471 | 22:14 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 665471 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "[natty] GRUB no longer finds kernel with separate /boot partition" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/665471 | 22:14 |
| penguin42 | ikonia: Ta | 22:14 |
| BUGabundo | you missed something | 22:15 |
| ikonia | what ? | 22:15 |
| ikonia | oops | 22:15 |
| BUGabundo | ahahah | 22:15 |
| === ikonia changed the topic of #ubuntu+1 to: Natty Narwhal 11.04 | UDS Oct 25-29 | Happy Bug Hunting! |Maverick/10.10 support in #ubuntu | seperate /boot user - Narwhal is broke, check bug #665471 | ||
| penguin42 | better :-) | 22:16 |
| BUGabundo | much | 22:16 |
| ikonia | sorry, not with it | 22:16 |
| BUGabundo | separate or separated ? | 22:16 |
| ikonia | seperate | 22:16 |
| BUGabundo | kk | 22:16 |
| BUGabundo | not being native lang, some words ilude me | 22:16 |
| ikonia | either would technically work | 22:16 |
| BUGabundo | lp is dead | 22:17 |
| BUGabundo | pages are half loading :S | 22:17 |
| BUGabundo | can't sub to the bug | 22:18 |
| BUGabundo | lol | 22:18 |
| BUGabundo | the amount of updates on a stable release (this recent) is staggering | 22:22 |
| BUGabundo | 73 updates, 115MBs in just one week | 22:22 |
| penguin42 | BUGabundo: Don't forget the number is multiple packages for a single fix | 22:26 |
| BUGabundo | still too much | 22:27 |
| BUGabundo | but I guess, needed | 22:28 |
| yofel | meh, my rt2860 works crappy with 2.6.36... when I try to transfer some data continously over wireless the connection drops after a few minutes and I have to reload the module for it to connect again | 22:38 |
| yofel | if I don't it hangs at the AP scan | 22:38 |
| BUGabundo | funny | 22:39 |
| BUGabundo | janitor doesn't recommend the removing of older kernel | 22:39 |
| BUGabundo | I've got like 6 now | 22:39 |
| === IdleOne is now known as MC_Hammer | ||
| === MC_Hammer is now known as IdleOne | ||
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