[00:24] <charlie-tca> Oh, I feel better now. I felt like crap all week!
[00:25] <BUGabundo> I still do
[00:26] <charlie-tca> but you have a good reaon to
[00:27] <BUGabundo> I do?
[00:27] <charlie-tca> Didn't you just get over the flu?
[00:27] <BUGabundo> no
[00:28] <charlie-tca> oh, then you don't have a reason either
[00:28] <BUGabundo> aha
[00:28] <charlie-tca> :-)
[00:42] <BUGabundo> charlie-tca: http://acidcow.com/pics/20101022/acid_picdump_114.jpg
[00:54] <charlie-tca> hehehe
[00:54] <charlie-tca> My kind of worker ;-)
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[01:20] <lukus> hi
[01:21] <lukus> i have a problem with 10.10 .. when my machine hibernates - when it resumes my bluetooth mouse no longer works
[01:21] <bazhang> lukus, #ubuntu for 10.10
[01:21] <charlie-tca> !support
[01:21] <ubottu> #ubuntu+1 handles support for the development version of Ubuntu.  Please join #ubuntu for all other Ubuntu support.  Chat in #ubuntu-offtopic.
[01:46] <charlie-tca> Well, wish me luck. Upgrading a fresh maverick install to natty (again)
[01:47] <alex_mayorga> charlie-tca: needless to ask, but how broken is natty?
[01:47] <charlie-tca> I don't know yet. I am still trying to upgrade to it
[01:49] <BUGabundo> see?
[01:49] <BUGabundo> that's why I upgrade on day one
[01:49] <BUGabundo> less chance of breakage
[01:50] <alex_mayorga> BUGabundo: wise guy you are
[01:50] <charlie-tca> I broke it bad last nite trying to upgrade
[01:50] <alex_mayorga> pondering if I should jump in already too
[01:50] <alex_mayorga> I can't post to twitter with gnome-do so maverick is useless for me :)
[01:51] <charlie-tca> jumping. It only takes me a couple of hours each install of maverick
[01:51] <alex_mayorga>  "Account validation failed!" anyone else?
[01:51] <charlie-tca> Oh, and a couple more hours to upgrade to natty and break it
[01:51] <charlie-tca> Don't use gwibber myself. I only use xchat
[01:51] <alex_mayorga> charlie-tca: almost as effective as automated testing :D
[01:52] <alex_mayorga> charlie-tca: trying gnome-do over here
[01:52] <charlie-tca> ah, xubuntu!
[01:52] <BUGabundo> hours??
[01:52] <charlie-tca> hours
[01:53] <charlie-tca> What? new system?
[01:53] <charlie-tca> I bought the 64bit about 4 years ago now
[01:53] <BUGabundo> 3 yo laptop
[01:53] <BUGabundo> with brand new SSD
[01:53] <charlie-tca> single core, athon 2.2Ghz
[01:53] <BUGabundo> c2d 2.4
[01:54] <BUGabundo> t8300
[01:54] <charlie-tca> I think I only buy whatever is obsolete at the time
[01:55] <alex_mayorga> whatever you buy is probably obsolete by the time you pay for it
[01:55] <charlie-tca> No, not here. Whatever I buy is on closeout clearance already
[01:55] <alex_mayorga> BUGabundo: can you tweet from gnome-do on natty
[01:56] <alex_mayorga> charlie-tca: my favorite department in computer stores
[01:57] <BUGabundo> Alex not even configured
[01:57] <BUGabundo> never used it
[01:58] <alex_mayorga> BUGabundo: twitter or do?
[01:58] <BUGabundo> gnome-do posting to µblogs
[02:00] <alex_mayorga> BUGabundo: can you do a test for me please?
[02:01] <BUGabundo> Errors were encountered while processing:
[02:01] <BUGabundo>  /var/cache/apt/archives/openjdk-6-jre-headless_6b20-1.10~pre2-0ubuntu5_amd64.deb
[02:01] <alex_mayorga> it's for sure broken on maverick :(
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[02:01] <BUGabundo> can't even see what's in the screen
[02:17] <charlie-tca> That's right. I forgot about my super speed internet. Just 200 more downloads to begin install packages
[02:20] <BUGabundo> 8mb/s here
[02:21] <charlie-tca> 150K here
[02:21] <charlie-tca> oh, 150Kb/s
[02:22] <charlie-tca> when it works. right now it looks like 80Kb/s
[02:22] <BUGabundo> eewwww
[02:22] <alex_mayorga> BUGabundo: nice, what type of connection is that one?
[02:22] <charlie-tca> see, back to hours
[02:22] <BUGabundo> adsl 2+
[02:23] <alex_mayorga> 2+?
[02:23] <BUGabundo> its how its called
[02:24] <BUGabundo> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asymmetric_Digital_Subscriber_Line
[02:26] <alex_mayorga> I see, guess my country is still stuck in ADSL
[02:26] <bjsnider> charlie-tca, that's pretty bad
[02:27] <BUGabundo> we are on fiber now
[02:27] <BUGabundo> ppl getting 122mbits/s
[02:28] <BUGabundo> I love this kind of dumb reports http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=60382
[02:33] <charlie-tca> seems simple - Open settings, it crashes
[02:34] <BUGabundo> right
[02:34] <BUGabundo> but not always
[02:35] <charlie-tca> Oh, One of those
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[02:39] <BUGabundo_cookie> charlie-tca: so my slow upstream of 100KB/s is faster then your downstream
[02:39] <BUGabundo_cookie> wow that hurts
[02:40] <bjsnider> BUGabundo_cookie, rubbing it in
[02:40] <BUGabundo_cookie> no.. its slow... really
[02:40] <BUGabundo_cookie> everyone I know, around here, has faster
[02:41] <BUGabundo_cookie> like, my boss has a bigger piper then our DCs links :S
[02:43] <alex_mayorga> BUGabundo_cookie: what TLD are you at?
[02:44] <charlie-tca> Everybody I know is faster too
[02:49] <alex_mayorga> charlie-tca: your TLD?
[02:49] <alex_mayorga> I'm in .mx and get ~210Kb/s downstream
[02:54] <charlie-tca> same error today! base files failed to upgrade
[02:54] <charlie-tca> Well, I guess this will wait until alpha1 to upgrade after all
[02:55] <charlie-tca> I don't my TLD
[02:55] <BUGabundo_cookie> http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=60382#c1 LOOOOOOOOL
[02:56] <BUGabundo_cookie> Portugal
[02:56] <charlie-tca> I give up
[02:56] <charlie-tca> good night
[02:57] <BUGabundo_cookie> nite
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[04:26] <BUGabundo> bou mimir. guud nite
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[12:22] <penguin42> ooh a nice new fresh +1 channel
[12:43] <yofel> wb penguin42 :)
[12:43] <penguin42> hi yofel
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[14:38] <macman_> BUGabundo, are you a bot ?
[14:38] <BUGabundo> aahah
[14:39]  * penguin42 oils BUGabundo
[14:39]  * BUGabundo drips
[14:42] <charlie-tca> Lessons forgot when upgrading to Ubuntu+1 - Must remove Nvidia hardware driver before the upgrade
[14:42] <BUGabundo> lol
[14:47] <penguin42> charlie-tca: I have a bug 636418 saying that Jockey should warn users about that :-)
[14:47] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 636418 in jockey (Ubuntu) "update should clean up/warn about jockey" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/636418
[14:48] <penguin42> probably wouldn't help this early though
[14:58] <charlie-tca> hm, the catch is I can install them after upgrading the system to natty. I just can not upgrade with them installed
[15:01] <penguin42> so, do-release-upgrade -d doesn't do anything yet, and update-manager -d doesn't do anything yet - so is the correct way apt-get dist-upgrade  ?
[15:02] <charlie-tca> Change sources.list manually and then apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:02] <penguin42> ah ok, the old school way
[15:02] <Monotoko> penguin42, its because its really early on...you have to change it all
[15:02] <charlie-tca> But, if nvidia hardware driver is installed, you break it. I reinstalled maverick 4 times before I got it right
[15:03] <BUGabundo> ahahah
[15:03] <penguin42> nah, it's Intel on this <---- machine
[15:03] <BUGabundo> good reason to stick with nouveu
[15:03] <BUGabundo> penguin42: no changes to DIST so you can't dist-upgrade
[15:04] <BUGabundo> sed your sources and do a aptitude full-upgrade
[15:04] <BUGabundo> good luck... you will need it
[15:04] <penguin42> ah, there we go - 503 updated packages, 30 new
[15:07] <penguin42> for natty, this channel really should be something like 'life at the sharp end'
[15:11] <charlie-tca> I did the dist-upgrade after changes the sources
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[15:11] <BUGabundo> I'm still amazed debian unstable is on 2.6.32
[15:11] <BUGabundo> charlie-tca: go with aptitude
[15:11] <BUGabundo> there are two packages broken
[15:12] <charlie-tca> I never use aptitude
[15:12]  * penguin42 really should look at some debian bugs, there is a local debian bug day meeting in a few weeks and it seems worthy
[15:12] <BUGabundo> you should
[15:13] <BUGabundo> how is skype latelly ?
[15:13] <BUGabundo> can't get ppl to use mumble as much as I would like
[15:13] <BUGabundo> so I guess ill have to install skype
[15:14] <BUGabundo> is this wiki up to date? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype
[15:18] <BUGabundo> Failed to fetch http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/dists/stable/non-free/binary-amd64/Packages.gz  404  Not Found [IP: 204.9.165.82 80]
[15:18] <BUGabundo> guess not
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[17:33]  * penguin42 reboots - see you in Natty
[17:45] <penguin42> wahey!
[17:53] <penguin42> ooh the nominate for release now lets you natty something
[18:07] <Craigwdy2k> I just tried to install AMD64 Kubuntu 10.10: it seems to be having trouble seeing my pre-existing Root Ext3 Partition...  What should I do...?
[18:08] <penguin42> Craigwdy2k: This channel is now for 11.04, 10.10 is in #ubuntu
[18:08] <penguin42> Craigwdy2k: However, I'd check to see if you can see the root partition from the install CD and go from there
[18:09] <Craigwdy2k> When did Kubuntu 11.04 come out...?
[18:09] <penguin42> it hasn't yet - that's why this channel is +1 - i.e. the next version
[18:12] <Craigwdy2k> I see: yeah: not only can it not see my partition but I got a weird X Low Resolution display error after attempting to use the Rescue a Broken System boot option...
[18:13] <Craigwdy2k> I tried to reconfigure X but then I get stuck in a infinite configuring Display Loop...
[18:43] <penguin42> ooh, my first natty upgrade  failure
[18:50] <charlie-tca> How lucky can you get, huh?
[18:50] <penguin42> charlie-tca: Well that's 50/50 :-)
[18:51] <penguin42> update-grub seems to have screwed up the paths
[18:57] <penguin42> don't suppose anyone has a grub.cfg from a machine with a separate /boot that I could compar ewith?
[19:07] <penguin42> ah, it's bug 665471
[19:07] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 665471 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "[natty] GRUB no longer finds kernel with separate /boot partition" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/665471
[19:30] <yofel> penguin42: I have a natty machine with seperate /boot here (that is still running 2.6.35 since I never bothered to reboot..)
[19:31] <yofel> oh, and still has maverick grub installed..
[19:31] <yofel> penguin42: if it helps, grub.cfg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/518863/
[19:32] <yofel>  /boot is sdb1 / is sdb7
[19:46] <penguin42> yofel: Right, I'd bet on that not rebooting
[19:48] <yofel> ah wait, that has natty grub installed, I looked at the wrong ssh session -.-
[19:48] <penguin42> yofel: Don't worry, now I've found the other bug I don't need it
[19:50] <yofel> yeah right, '/boot' isn't supposed to be there..
[20:01]  * penguin42 wonders why the iscs_trgt module has gone missing, I can see it's still in the git tree and I can see the config is still on
[20:36] <penguin42> looks like next to nothing from the ubuntu tree in the kernel is built in the 2.6.36 package
[20:57] <grubhelp> Hello, In order for me to be able to boot. I need to edit my "linux" line and change /boot/ to '(hd0,msdos1)' each time. I have tried to reinstall grub2 and I still get the "Error no file found" and "Error must load kernel first" messages on boot.
[20:58] <grubhelp> Ohh and my initrd line also.
[20:58] <grubhelp> Any help would be appreciated.
[21:00] <grubhelp> http://paste.ubuntu.com/518896/
[21:02] <penguin42> grubhelp: Welcome to bug 665471
[21:02] <ubottu> Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out (https://launchpad.net/bugs/665471)
[21:02] <penguin42> I said, bug 665471
[21:02] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 665471 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "[natty] GRUB no longer finds kernel with separate /boot partition" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/665471
[21:03] <grubhelp> Ahh k, thought I broke something
[21:03] <grubhelp> Thanks penguin42
[21:54] <BUGa_brokenkerne> hey guys on last boot, the kernel upgrade boosted
[21:54] <BUGa_brokenkerne> cant boot anymore
[21:54] <BUGa_brokenkerne> grub complains it needs to select a kernel
[21:55] <BUGa_brokenkerne> but i didnt change anything in grub recently
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[21:55] <BUGa_brokenkerne> hey DanaG
[21:56] <BUGa_brokenkerne> u have a G1 ?
[21:56] <penguin42> BUGa_brokenkerne: Bug 665471
[21:57] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 665471 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "[natty] GRUB no longer finds kernel with separate /boot partition" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/665471
[21:57] <BUGa_brokenkerne> aaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[21:57] <BUGa_brokenkerne> any work around?
[21:57] <BUGa_brokenkerne> i have /boot on ext4 because of BTRFS
[21:57] <penguin42> just edit the /boot out of the kernel and initrd lines
[21:58] <BUGa_brokenkerne> ohh its just a grub bug?
[21:58] <BUGa_brokenkerne> i can downgrade from cache version, right ?
[21:58] <penguin42> BUGa_brokenkerne: I think it's update-grub that's the problem
[21:58] <BUGa_brokenkerne> probably
[21:59] <penguin42> BUGa_brokenkerne: The devs just put that type of thing in to keep those of us silly enough to try it this early on our toes
[21:59] <BUGa_brokenkerne> :)
[22:00] <penguin42> BUGa_brokenkerne: I was tempted to file a separate bug that grub doesn't let you get back to the menu from that point
[22:02] <BUGa_brokenkerne> ok, let me reboot and change directly in grub console
[22:02] <BUGa_brokenkerne> to see if that works
[22:04] <BUGabundo> thanks penguin42
[22:04] <BUGabundo> that worked marvelous
[22:07] <BUGabundo> penguin42: can you tell me the bug again?
[22:07] <BUGabundo> so I can CC
[22:07] <penguin42> 665471
[22:07] <BUGabundo> bug 665471
[22:07] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 665471 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "[natty] GRUB no longer finds kernel with separate /boot partition" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/665471
[22:08] <penguin42> it's almost worth topicing that one
[22:08] <BUGabundo> I would say so
[22:09] <BUGabundo> humm what OP is awaked at this hour ?
[22:09] <BUGabundo> on a saturday night?
[22:09] <BUGabundo> ikonia: jpds: please put bug 665471 on /topic. thanks
[22:10] <ikonia> hang on
[22:10] <ubottu> Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out (https://launchpad.net/bugs/665471)
[22:10] <BUGabundo> kk
[22:10] <penguin42> something between launchpad and the bot isn't very happy tonight
[22:10] <ikonia> does that need to be in the topic ?
[22:10] <ikonia> (I find it quite serious, it would affect me personally quite bad)
[22:11] <BUGabundo> ikonia: it would have helped me
[22:11] <ikonia> did this not happen until an update ?
[22:11] <BUGabundo> and we usually use /topic for this kinda of stuff
[22:11] <penguin42> ikonia: Lot of people hitting it
[22:11] <ikonia> or has this been there from day one
[22:11] <BUGabundo> serious bugs that affect a large part of users
[22:11] <BUGabundo> ikonia: it hit me today
[22:12] <ikonia> I don't disagree, it's just the first I've read of it
[22:12] <BUGabundo> was fine last night and this morning
[22:12] <ikonia> so it's an update
[22:12] <BUGabundo> and since its weekend, won't probably be addressed until Monday
[22:12] <BUGabundo> I think it was kernel 2.6.36.1
[22:12] <penguin42> ikonia: Read back, I asked about it a few hours ago, and there were one or two others inbetween - not sure anything else has been asked about!
[22:12] <BUGabundo> at least its in my latest batch of aptgetables
[22:12] <ikonia> hang on
[22:13] <ikonia> for some odd reason I was working on 10.10 in my head, sorry
[22:13] <BUGabundo> eheh
[22:13] <BUGabundo> nope
[22:13] <BUGabundo> 11.04 in here
[22:13] <penguin42> ikonia: Bah that's old :-)
[22:13] <ikonia> I know, sorry, I lost track
[22:13] <BUGabundo> yeah, that's old
[22:14] <ikonia> Natty Narwhal 11.04 | UDS Oct 25-29 | Happy Bug Hunting! |Maverick/10.10 support in #ubuntu | seperate /boot user - Narwhal is broke, check bug #665471
[22:14] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 665471 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "[natty] GRUB no longer finds kernel with separate /boot partition" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/665471
[22:14] <penguin42> ikonia: Ta
[22:15] <BUGabundo> you missed something
[22:15] <ikonia> what ?
[22:15] <ikonia> oops
[22:15] <BUGabundo> ahahah
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[22:16] <penguin42> better :-)
[22:16] <BUGabundo> much
[22:16] <ikonia> sorry, not with it
[22:16] <BUGabundo> separate or separated ?
[22:16] <ikonia> seperate
[22:16] <BUGabundo> kk
[22:16] <BUGabundo> not being native lang, some words ilude me
[22:16] <ikonia> either would technically work
[22:17] <BUGabundo> lp is dead
[22:17] <BUGabundo> pages are half loading :S
[22:18] <BUGabundo> can't sub to the bug
[22:18] <BUGabundo> lol
[22:22] <BUGabundo> the amount of updates on a stable release (this recent) is staggering
[22:22] <BUGabundo> 73 updates, 115MBs in just one week
[22:26] <penguin42> BUGabundo: Don't forget the number is multiple packages for a single fix
[22:27] <BUGabundo> still too much
[22:28] <BUGabundo> but I guess, needed
[22:38] <yofel> meh, my rt2860 works crappy with 2.6.36... when I try to transfer some data continously over wireless the connection drops after a few minutes and I have to reload the module for it to connect again
[22:38] <yofel> if I don't it hangs at the AP scan
[22:39] <BUGabundo> funny
[22:39] <BUGabundo> janitor doesn't recommend the removing of older kernel
[22:39] <BUGabundo> I've got like 6 now
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