[00:00] <layn> persia: are not a lot in ubuntu squad and try to be helpful did not want to create problems
[00:02] <persia> layn, This is triage: the key thing to keep in mind is "Before all, do no harm".  This often means it's better to ask for others opinions before doing anything, and sometimes it's better to do nothing after several hours of work just because one can't sort it (and neither can anyone else).
[00:03] <slink3r> hggdh: I upstreamed 664965
[00:04] <layn> persia:  look here! Now I found a bug in previous Bug # 618637 08/16/2010 and duplicate result has now been reported as bug # 665392 should act in this case?
[00:05] <layn> persia: mark it as duplicate?
[00:05] <layn> persia: or invalid duplicate
[00:07] <persia> bug #618637
[00:07] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 618637 in oss4 (Ubuntu) "package oss4-dkms 4.2-build2002-2 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 10 (dup-of: 601342)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/618637
[00:07] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 601342 in oss4 (Ubuntu) "kernel update breaks oss4 (affects: 44) (dups: 55) (heat: 455)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/601342
[00:07] <persia> bug #665392
[00:07] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 665392 in oss4 (Ubuntu) "package oss4-dkms 4.2-build2002-2 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 10 (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/665392
[00:07] <layn> yes
[00:08] <persia> layn, Those are slightly different: check the DpkgTerminalLog for each of 618637 and 665392
[00:09] <persia> In this case, it happens to be the same bug, but be *very* careful to check each part to make sure of duplicates, and ask if everything isn't precisely the same (unless you encountered that specific sort of issue before)
[00:10] <persia> *BUT*
[00:10] <persia> You need to look more carefully at 618637 and notice it's a duplicate of 601342.
[00:10] <persia> So the appropriate action is to set 665392 as a duplicate of 601342
[00:12] <layn> persia: in fact change the form and the version of the system I only see these differences
[00:12] <persia> You don't see the difference in kernels?
[00:13] <layn> oh yes
[00:13] <persia> Sometimes that affects things, and makes bugs not duplicate.
[00:14] <slink3r> haha, 664657 doesn't even seem like a bug, I think I like the way the expected result operates less than the actual result
[00:14] <persia> I've seen this specific bug before, and I know (roughly) why it is happening: at least enough to know the same fix will sort it for both linux-image-generic and linux-image-generic-pae, so if you trust me, you can mark them duplicate.  If you don't trust me, you can investigate what is happening in a bit more detail, and determine if they are the same issue.
[00:14] <layn> persia: then confirm it is not a duplicate and is valid
[00:15] <persia> I think 665392 is duplicate to 601342, but you're triaging 665392, so it matters what *you* think is right (although It's always good to check with others)
[00:18] <slink3r> but I can see where they're coming from
[00:22] <layn> persia:  I'm sure
[00:25] <layn> persia: in fact it is reported the same bug I agree with you then mark duplicate persia
[00:28] <persia> layn, OK.  Go ahead and mark the duplicate, and now look for another bug.
[00:28] <persia> I have to head off soon, but maybe someone else can review if you have questions.
[00:28] <layn> persia: ok
[00:29] <layn> persia: marked
[00:31] <RedSingularity> micahg:  There was a corruption in their folder so i had them remove the whole folder.  I warned it would delete all their preferences though.  He didnt seem to mind.....
[00:33] <layn> persia: now I'm considering this report Bug # 665398
[00:34] <layn> #665398
[00:40] <layn> hey guy I report a bug in progress while I rate?
[00:42] <layn> persia: I report a bug in progress while I rate?
[00:43] <hggdh> layn: no, you do not.
[00:43] <layn> hggdh: ok
[00:44] <layn> hggdh: you a quick way to identify possible duplicates?
[00:45] <hggdh> layn: no, you have to look at each one
[00:46] <layn> hggdh: I had thought but I was hoping you would tell me to
[00:46] <layn> #665398
[00:49] <hggdh> bug 665398
[00:49] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 665398 in kpackagekit (Ubuntu) "difficulty to read not installed software line (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/665398
[00:50] <hggdh> layn: I do not know, I do not run KDE
[00:51] <layn> hggdh: I'm trying to package but I am not having the problem described
[00:51] <layn> hggdh: also runs on ubuntu
[00:53] <hggdh> layn: Ubuntu comes in many flavours: Ubuntu itself (Gnome), Kubuntu (KDE) Xubuntu (lightweight X), etc
[00:53] <hggdh> layn: I run Ubuntu, not kubuntu.
[00:54] <layn> hggdh: actually the writing is clear that describe the software installed but not so much I almost could not be read the report as invalid what do you think?
[00:55] <layn> hggdh: I know the versions of Ubuntu and Ubuntu well enough to be able to distinguish
[00:55] <layn> :)
[00:55] <yofel_> layn: the kubuntu team only tracks kubuntu specific and/or serious bugs in KDE on launchpad. For most bugs you report the bug at bugs.kde.org and set the launchpad task invalid
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[00:56] <layn> I believe that those who reported the bug to be a bit blind. I'm testing
[00:57] <layn> yofel: I do not know even if the package runs on ubuntu, not only on kde?
[00:57] <yofel> layn: just tested it here, it uses the 'Invactive Text' color which is supposed to be a bit less visible
[00:58] <yofel> layn: I use kubuntu - kpackagekit should work fine on ubuntu too though (will pull in kde libs though)
[00:58] <yofel> *inactive text
[00:59] <layn> is in fact even I have noticed the text slightly so clearly point out the invalid
[01:00] <yofel> well, it would probably be a valid wishlist bug on bugs.kde.org if you or the reporter want to report it there
[01:02] <layn> yofel: How do I report on bugs.kde.org wishlist?
[01:04] <yofel> layn: you'll need an accounc (it's bugzilla)  - on https://bugs.kde.org/enter_bug.cgi click on full list -> kpackagekit and follow the instructions
[01:05] <layn> yofel: ok
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[03:59] <RedSingularity> Anyone here work with Virtualbox?
[03:59] <RedSingularity> Bugs I mean
[04:16] <crimsun> RedSingularity: a veces
[04:16] <crimsun> err
[04:16] <crimsun> RedSingularity: yes, sometimes
[04:16] <nigelb> heh
[04:17] <RedSingularity> do you know of a bug that prevents guest additions from installing in 10.10 guest
[04:17] <nigelb> cat on your keyboard?
[04:17] <nigelb> g41
[04:21] <vish> nigelb: now on yours? ;)
[04:21] <crimsun> RedSingularity: no; can you reproduce the symptom?
[04:23] <nigelb> vish: that's usual irssi mistake
[04:23] <vish> nigelb: no cats? :(
[04:24]  * nigelb hates cats with a passion
[04:25] <vish> nigelb: haha! more to eat for me! ;p
[04:25] <RedSingularity> crimsun:  Yeah but i suspect anyone can with a 10.10 vbox install
[04:28] <crimsun> RedSingularity: have a y,ou filed a bug report with steps to reproduce the symptom?
[04:28] <crimsun> err, my grammar is shot this evening
[04:28] <RedSingularity> crimsun:  I am going to see if anyone has done so already.  If not i will.
[04:44] <RedSingularity> I have a bug that seems like its worth "wishlist".  Anyone care to look?
[04:44] <RedSingularity> bug 638744
[04:44] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 638744 in update-manager (Ubuntu) ""Restart to complete update" should not be signaled until the update is still running (affects: 2) (heat: 12)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/638744
[04:44] <RedSingularity> It is "confirmed" as well
[04:48] <RedSingularity> Mark as triaged?
[04:55] <crimsun> RedSingularity: no
[04:55] <crimsun> it is a wishlist item, however.
[04:55] <RedSingularity> Cannot mark as triaged tho?
[04:59] <RedSingularity> crimsun:  Can you mark wishlist for me if it cannot be marked triaged?
[05:01] <crimsun> retitled and wishlisted
[05:01] <RedSingularity> crimsum:  Thanks  :)
[05:02] <crimsun> yw
[06:13] <RedSingularity> crimsun:  I filed the report on virtualbox if you want to look, bug 665449
[06:13] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 665449 in virtualbox-guest-additions (Ubuntu) "Guest additions dont work in 10.10 guest (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/665449
[06:15] <crimsun> I can try to look in a bit
[06:27] <rusivi> RedSingularity: While that's being hashed out, may want to update to 3.2.8 or compile 3.2.10 (I compiled works like a charm).
[07:49] <shadeslayer> crimsun: coming to UDS?
[08:07] <nigelb> crimsun: he is, but not on all days
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[12:22] <yabruss> Hello
[12:24] <yabruss> Just wondering if it is possible to have gnome and kde intalled on same PC ? I don't see menu to choose your desktop manager into the Lucid 10.04 connection splash screen.
[12:25] <ssj6akshat> you can install KDE by installing Kubuntu Desktop from the software centre
[12:26] <ssj6akshat> you will see the box to choose desktop environment in the lower right corner of login screen
[12:28] <PascalFR> anyone has eth which uses e1000e on maverick ?
[12:34] <PascalFR> bug #660302
[12:34] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 660302 in module-init-tools (Ubuntu) "e1000e ethernet link down (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/660302
[12:42]  * yofel has 2 - but one pc works fine on boot and is never suspended and the other one is on wireless most of the time
[12:43] <yofel> ifconfig shows eth0 as up though
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[13:28] <bilalakhtar> Oh, someone trolled on bug #1
[13:28] <algnod> hi all, I need someone to please set Bug #660259 to triaged, thank you
[13:28] <ubot2> bilalakhtar: Bug 1 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/1 is private
[13:28] <ubot2> algnod: Bug 660259 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/660259 is private
[13:29] <bilalakhtar> Is LP down?
[13:29] <algnod> its working for me
[13:29]  * bilalakhtar checks launchpadstatus
[13:29] <algnod> but my bug is not marked as private
[13:29] <bilalakhtar> ah
[13:29] <bilalakhtar> Edge servers are not working
[13:29] <algnod> what are the Edge servers?
[13:30] <bilalakhtar> edge.launchpad.net
[13:30] <bilalakhtar> okay, I managed to open
[13:30] <bilalakhtar> Edge is a beta version of latest Launchpad
[13:31] <yofel> edge works fine here, probably it's just the fact that for the bot 'private' and 'conn. timeout' are the same
[13:31] <PascalFR> for e1000e the test is  modprobe -r / modprobe   then link stays down
[13:32] <yofel> PascalFR: stays up here (00:19.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82577LM Gigabit Network Connection (rev 06))
[13:33] <PascalFR> 00:19.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82566MM Gigabit Network Connection (rev 03)
[13:34] <bilalakhtar> I am getting timeouts when I post comments on edge
[13:34] <bilalakhtar> I disabled edge now
[13:34] <persia> Might ask in #launchpad rather than claiming it's down here.
[13:35] <PascalFR> eth works with K2.6.32-25.44  random work with k2.6.35-22.35
[13:36] <PascalFR> what package name is ubuntu 10.10 kernel in launchpad ?
[13:36] <algnod> bump:  Hi all, I need someone to please set Bug #660259 to triaged, thank you
[13:36] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 660259 in gnome-utils (Ubuntu) "dictionary app. won't execute word look up (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/660259
[13:36] <persia> PascalFR, "linux"
[13:36] <yofel> PascalFR: 'linux' for all releases
[13:37] <yofel> PascalFR: did you test the current mainline kernel? http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.36-maverick/
[13:38] <PascalFR> ha thanks I lost the url for mainline kernels   difficult to find it on ubuntu wiki !
[13:52] <algnod> bump: Hi all, I need someone to please set Bug #660259 to triaged, thank you
[13:52] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 660259 in gnome-utils (Ubuntu) "dictionary app. won't execute word look up (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/660259
[13:53] <bilalakhtar> algnod: saw my comment on it?
[13:54] <algnod> bilalakhtar, no, sorry i missed it
[13:55] <slinker> can anyone set 665397 to triaged?
[13:58] <algnod> bilalakhtar, so do i set it to to invalid? Sometimes dict does not give any feedback at all, the word definition window just stays white. Whatabout an offline fallback?
[13:58] <bilalakhtar> algnod: Leave it at Confirmed or re-title it to 'Add an alternative to dict.com' and then triage
[14:01] <algnod> bilalakhtar, i've retitled the bug, but I would need you to change the status. Thanks for the help!
[14:01]  * bilalakhtar changes
[14:03] <bilalakhtar> algnod: done
[14:06] <algnod> bilalakhtar thanks!
[17:49] <crimsun> ugh.  This is no fun.  We now have two distinct bug symptoms for maverick-proposed's alsa-utils.
[17:49] <crimsun> just for historical screenscraping, all reports that have 'package alsa-utils 1.0.23-2ubuntu3.3 failed to install/upgrade' in their titles are dupes of 664645
[17:50] <crimsun> however, all reports that have 'package alsa-utils 1.0.23-2ubuntu3.4 failed to install/upgrade' in their titles are dupes of 665416
[17:55] <penguin42> yeuch
[17:55] <crimsun> it looks like people will need to manually install 1.0.23-2ubuntu3.4, because 665416 really is just 664645 with a different mask
[18:22] <penguin42> hmm I wonder if I ever reported that; I have a problem with Flash+KVM audio - haven't got a clue where the problem lies
[18:26] <ssj6akshat> why can't other bug trackers be as readable as Launchpad's.
[18:29] <penguin42> ssj6akshat: I think we have more bug reporters and trackers than most other bug trackers so it's probably forced it a bit more
[18:30] <ssj6akshat> my eyes get damaged whenever I see bugzilla
[18:32] <crimsun> penguin42: I don't think I've seen one recently, but since I triage hundreds of bugs regularly...
[18:33] <penguin42> crimsun: I'm not sure what to report it against; it's I have flash audio playing and I start a kvm guest it gets a weird ~15 secondish echo on the flash audio
[18:33] <crimsun> penguin42: 64-bit host with 64-bit Flash "squared"?
[18:34] <penguin42> crimsun: 64-bit host with 32-bit flash in nspluginwrapper in chrome
[18:36] <crimsun> penguin42: hmm, can you try purging flashplugin-installer and manually dropping in the 64-bit plugin?
[18:36] <penguin42> yeh, I'll try that a bit later
[18:38] <penguin42> crimsun: It's a very odd echo, it really is like an echo in the sense you can hear the new audio and the repeat
[19:00] <mahen> hi
[19:01] <ssj6akshat> mahen, do you need any help
[19:02] <mahen> Hi ssj6akshat, well not really, just read the triaging bugs and asked for a mentor ; I have a couple of minutes so I thought I would just come to see what is happening :)
[19:02] <mahen> thanks
[19:02] <ssj6akshat> mahen, no prob
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[22:07] <Shayon> hello all
[22:50] <ghost68writer> Hi, could someone please set the status of bug #500125 for package 'python-uniconvertor (ubuntu)' to triaged and the importance to 'low'? The bug is fixed upstream (in UniConvertor 1.1.5), so the debian/ubuntu package needs to be updated...
[22:50] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 500125 in python-uniconvertor (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "lost dimensions in hpgl ( "selfscaling" ) (affects: 2) (heat: 12)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/500125
[22:53] <ghost68writer> Bug #637800 is a request to update the package (python-uniconvertor), so I suppose it could also be set to status 'triaged' and importance 'low'.
[22:53] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 637800 in python-uniconvertor (Debian) (and 2 other projects) "Uniconvertor 1.1.5 released on June 2010, please update Ubuntu packages (affects: 2) (heat: 99)" [Unknown,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/637800
[22:56] <hggdh> ghost68writer: done, thank toy
[22:57] <hggdh> /stoy/you/
[22:57] <hggdh> darn!
[22:59] <obengdako> #ubuntu
[23:01] <ghost68writer> hggdh: thank you!
[23:02] <kcj> I found a website that is crashing my system. Apparently it's causing my display driver to crash. I disabled flash and java and tried again and it still crashed. Can someone help me create a bug report?
[23:03] <kcj> I'm running Ubuntu 10.10 and firefox 3.6.11
[23:04] <penguin42> kcj: After it crashes and X starts back up, check /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old  if it has a backtrace in it might help figure out why
[23:05] <devildante> !bugs | kcj
[23:05] <ubot2> kcj: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs - Bugs in/wishes for the IRC bots (not Ubuntu) can be filed at http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[23:05] <devildante> If you have any questions, feel free to ask us ;)
[23:05] <kcj> penguin42: there's a stack trace in var/log/messages
[23:06] <kcj> First time I have ever seen a kernal panic. :)
[23:07] <kcj> here is the stack trace: http://paste.ubuntu.com/518934/
[23:17] <mrand> kcj also, try without video drivers if you have any loaded
[23:18] <penguin42> kcj: OK, so report it with ubuntu-bug linux (since it's a kernel panic)
[23:18] <penguin42> kcj: It's a radeon driver bug though, Have you got desktop effects on?
[23:18] <kcj> penguin42: Okay.
[23:18] <kcj> penguin42: Yes.
[23:18] <kcj> penguin42: Turn them off?
[23:18] <penguin42> kcj: If you turn it off theres a good chance it will go away
[23:18] <kcj> ah
[23:19] <penguin42> They just push the driver hardr
[23:19] <kcj> aw
[23:19] <penguin42> kcj: Crashes in radeon_ttm_bo_destroy don't seem to be that unusual
[23:20] <kcj> penguin42: Will it be fixed?
[23:20] <penguin42> kcj: Probably, I couldn't say when - the Radeon guys have fixed a bunch of bugs in this release, and I'm sure they'll fix plenty more
[23:22] <kcj> Okay. I turned desktop effects off. I'll see if it crashes again. Wish me luck.
[23:22] <penguin42> kcj: Having reported it, you could also try the latest daily kernel builds, ask on #ubuntu-x or report it upstream to the freedesktop.org guys
[23:27] <kcj> Still crashed with desktop effects off. No kernal panic though.
[23:27] <penguin42> kcj: Interesting - anything in /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old?
[23:27] <kcj> penguin42: checking
[23:28] <penguin42> (still report the bug with ubuntu-bug  but this time against xserver-xorg-video-ati)
[23:29] <kcj> penguin42: What should I be looking for in Xorg.0.log.old?
[23:29] <penguin42> kcj: Can you pastebin it ?
[23:29] <kcj> penguin42: sure
[23:32] <kcj> penguin42: http://paste.ubuntu.com/518945/ There you go.
[23:32] <layn> Hi
[23:33] <penguin42> kcj: I was expecting to see a backtrace from X at the end of it - but oh well; report the bug, you could also try xorg-edgers bleeding edge X libraries
[23:33] <kcj> I'm a little on-edge about my system crashing now.
[23:35] <kcj> penguin42: There seems to be another stack trace in var/log/messages
[23:36] <kcj> Maybe my krenal did panic again.
[23:37] <penguin42> kcj: Either way report it, and you can also try #radeon I think