| bng007 | hi all, is there any music player that would support samba shares? | 00:01 |
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| bng007 | preferably with music library/database | 00:02 |
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| Kalidarn | bng007: that's up to the environtment | 00:04 |
| Kalidarn | not the media player | 00:04 |
| Kalidarn | unfortunately amarok isn't able to use KIO's shares because they dont seem to be mounted anywhere on the filesystem so I used sshfs | 00:04 |
| bng007 | kde preferably, but since I have not founf any, i will go with any | 00:04 |
| Kalidarn | well amarok is the best one around for linux hands down | 00:05 |
| Kalidarn | beating rhthmbox and exhaile which are GTK ones ive used. | 00:05 |
| Kalidarn | bng007: is the server a windows server? | 00:05 |
| bng007 | I use amarok too, but I just got tired with dragging the individual songs from dolphin to amarok | 00:05 |
| Kalidarn | ah | 00:05 |
| Kalidarn | i use the media library thing | 00:06 |
| bng007 | Kalidarn: no, it is a readynas | 00:06 |
| Kalidarn | its the best at dealing with huge datbases | 00:06 |
| Kalidarn | ah | 00:06 |
| Kalidarn | i guess it only supports smb :( | 00:06 |
| Kalidarn | i used to use smb for everything on my samba server but found it rather annoying :P | 00:06 |
| bng007 | Kalidarn I would use the library too, but it is only local... on the readynas there are more protocols also, but I dont know any of them | 00:07 |
| bng007 | Kalidarn: and first of all, dolphin shows only samba | 00:07 |
| Kalidarn | it can do ftp too | 00:07 |
| Kalidarn | and sshfs | 00:07 |
| Kalidarn | but i dont think it mounts it to a folder | 00:07 |
| Kalidarn | like gnome does with gvfs | 00:07 |
| Kalidarn | sshfs application is seperate from the desktop environment | 00:08 |
| bng007 | and ftp/sshfs would work with the amarok library? | 00:08 |
| Kalidarn | not through KIO | 00:08 |
| bng007 | :( | 00:08 |
| Kalidarn | afaik | 00:08 |
| Kalidarn | im not sure i just tried to do exactly what u were doing the other day | 00:08 |
| Kalidarn | (it wont matter what player you use) | 00:08 |
| Kalidarn | you need to be able to read them as files | 00:09 |
| Kalidarn | imma try and have a look | 00:09 |
| bng007 | these things seem pretty basic to me, pity it's not so | 00:10 |
| Kalidarn | yeah | 00:10 |
| Kalidarn | they are | 00:10 |
| Kalidarn | there may be a way or a place it does let u access it | 00:10 |
| Kalidarn | i just am not sure where it was | 00:10 |
| Kalidarn | or if KIO did that | 00:10 |
| Kalidarn | smb://192.168.1.254/dcecchin/ mmm that's the directory dolphin shows | 00:11 |
| Kalidarn | but its a virtual directory | 00:11 |
| Kalidarn | so maybe it's somewhere | 00:11 |
| Kalidarn | oh wait | 00:12 |
| Kalidarn | hmm | 00:12 |
| Kalidarn | amarok really needs the ability to add things in network places | 00:12 |
| Kalidarn | or | 00:12 |
| Kalidarn | there needs to be a place where those directories are | 00:13 |
| Kalidarn | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1243291 bng007 hmm | 00:14 |
| bng007 | I installed Clementine today, but it's KDE thing it seems | 00:14 |
| bng007 | Kalidarn: wow, that looks promising! | 00:18 |
| Kalidarn | also dont use smbmount | 00:19 |
| Kalidarn | because i used that | 00:19 |
| Kalidarn | and i found it had issues with shutting down and unmounting | 00:19 |
| Kalidarn | permanent hangs :P nobody uses it anymore | 00:20 |
| Kalidarn | ie http://www.art.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=255872 | 00:20 |
| Kalidarn | bng007: i asked in #kde | 00:22 |
| Kalidarn | dont use smbmount | 00:22 |
| Kalidarn | its old | 00:22 |
| Kalidarn | and i dont think it works properly :P | 00:22 |
| Kalidarn | mmm | 00:22 |
| Kalidarn | they say amarok should be fine to use kio bng007 | 00:22 |
| Kalidarn | bng007: http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/Samba | 00:22 |
| Kalidarn | mmm seems to be the only way | 00:22 |
| bng007 | Kalidarn: it does not list any samba shares, though | 00:23 |
| Kalidarn | mount -t cifs -o fmask=444,dmask=555,guest //server/share /path/to/mount-point | 00:23 |
| Kalidarn | that should work | 00:23 |
| moetunes | Kalidarn: I use nfs to do that | 00:23 |
| moetunes | !nfs | 00:23 |
| moetunes | !lag | 00:23 |
| ubottu | nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS. | 00:23 |
| ubottu | You have lag, I don't have lag | 00:23 |
| Kalidarn | or NFS | 00:24 |
| Kalidarn | if your NAS supports it | 00:24 |
| Kalidarn | NFS or sshfs are both nice options for UNIX computers | 00:24 |
| Kalidarn | because they support POSIX permissions | 00:24 |
| Kalidarn | SMB does not really | 00:24 |
| Kalidarn | so its not ideal to use that with MacOSX or Linux or BSD or whatever. | 00:24 |
| Kalidarn | i know the NAS i have has a web interface that lets me enable other protocols | 00:25 |
| Kalidarn | it does nfs, smb, ftp | 00:25 |
| bng007 | ok, so if i find NFS, how do I set it up so it just works? | 00:25 |
| Kalidarn | and i think sshfs | 00:25 |
| Kalidarn | yes bng007 | 00:25 |
| Kalidarn | if your nas does nfs | 00:25 |
| Kalidarn | that's the best option | 00:25 |
| Kalidarn | or as good as sshfs | 00:25 |
| Kalidarn | much better than smb | 00:25 |
| FloodBotK1 | Kalidarn: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. | 00:25 |
| bng007 | Kalidarn: nfs/sshfs - how do I mount these automatically? is it in /etc/fstab ? | 00:26 |
| Kalidarn | yeah | 00:26 |
| Kalidarn | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo | 00:27 |
| bng007 | Kalidarn: ok, I'll look into my ReadyNAS | 00:27 |
| Kalidarn | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHFS | 00:27 |
| Kalidarn | oh yeah if u use sshfs use this instead http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1173714 | 00:28 |
| u19809 | hi all/any ... still have problems with my Xorg conf that crashes after an upgrade tokubuntu 10.10... sure could use some help | 00:29 |
| Kalidarn | bng007: its possible your nas does not do sshfs | 00:29 |
| Kalidarn | but quite likely will do nfs unless it's a cheapy one that only does samba and has some sort of proprietary os on it | 00:29 |
| bng007 | Kalidarn: you're right, there is just NFS | 00:30 |
| Kalidarn | yeah use that then your problems should be solved | 00:30 |
| Kalidarn | and if you ever get a mac it should behave better too | 00:30 |
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| megan | I need a hand if anyone has time. Fresh Kubuntu install, set my headset to prefered device in all, I have sound in Amarok but not in any browsers | 00:31 |
| bng007 | Kalidarn: I think I acces to it using afp on my mac mini | 00:31 |
| Kalidarn | afp hehe | 00:31 |
| Kalidarn | do mac mini support anything but afp? | 00:32 |
| bng007 | ? :) | 00:32 |
| Kalidarn | i was pretty sure afp only worked well with mac desktops :P | 00:32 |
| Kalidarn | i believe nfs has good support in windows too if u install the unix subsystem | 00:32 |
| Kalidarn | that microsoft provide | 00:32 |
| Kalidarn | because it's used in huge enterprise for mounting shares | 00:33 |
| boogie1 | kubuntu exists beacause Ubuntu has gnome? | 00:33 |
| Kalidarn | what sort of question is that | 00:33 |
| Kalidarn | kubuntu is ubuntu | 00:33 |
| Kalidarn | it just comes with kde and a splash screen for kde | 00:34 |
| boogie1 | yes, but why was kubuntu created, couldn´t just use bofe K and G in Ubuntu? | 00:34 |
| Kalidarn | i think they wanted to keep the desktop environments seperate so that people would say when using blah | 00:35 |
| Kalidarn | also when ubuntu first came out in 4.10 | 00:35 |
| Kalidarn | kubuntu did not exist | 00:35 |
| boogie1 | i see. | 00:35 |
| Kalidarn | its like xubuntu only came out around 5.04 | 00:35 |
| bng007 | they should have chosen KDE if you ask us :) | 00:35 |
| Kalidarn | mmmm | 00:35 |
| Kalidarn | gnome was better than kde 3 :P | 00:35 |
| Kalidarn | i thought | 00:36 |
| Kalidarn | 2.18 is when gnome got good | 00:36 |
| Kalidarn | and kde 3 still sucked | 00:36 |
| Kalidarn | but now kde is way better :P | 00:36 |
| boogie1 | so ubuntu, from start used gnome? | 00:36 |
| Kalidarn | i stopped being a massive gnomefag about 2 weeks ago when i switched back again | 00:36 |
| Kalidarn | yes boogie1 | 00:36 |
| bng007 | lol | 00:37 |
| Kalidarn | SUSE i believe was using KDE at the start | 00:37 |
| boogie1 | Kalidarn: thnaks | 00:37 |
| Kalidarn | and switched to gnome | 00:37 |
| Kalidarn | with slab | 00:37 |
| Kalidarn | because kde 4.0, 4.1, 4.2 were horrible | 00:37 |
| Kalidarn | that said least now kde has a nice architecture | 00:37 |
| bng007 | btw there is an interesting article about Qt and ubuntu on Ars | 00:37 |
| Kalidarn | yeah and Qt i'd say is way nicer than gtk | 00:37 |
| Kalidarn | especially to program in | 00:38 |
| Kalidarn | about the only thing i remember hearing was qt libs are a bit bigger when packaging windows apps unless u recompile removing the stuff u dont need | 00:38 |
| Kalidarn | but its way nicer on osx | 00:38 |
| boogie1 | what is slab and gnomefag? | 00:38 |
| Kalidarn | gtk on osx is horrible | 00:38 |
| Kalidarn | slab is a menu | 00:38 |
| FloodBotK1 | Kalidarn: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. | 00:38 |
| bng007 | the article http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2010/10/canonical-cto-contemplates-qt-we-think-it-has-a-lot-to-offer-ubuntu.ars | 00:39 |
| bng007 | not that it would mean much to KDE | 00:39 |
| boogie1 | Why doesnt the libre sw community combine kde and gnome and start over? | 00:39 |
| Kalidarn | because they are completely different codebases | 00:40 |
| boogie1 | wasnt a big problem with Qt, about licences? | 00:40 |
| boogie1 | Kalidarn: oh!! | 00:40 |
| Kalidarn | nothing is compatible :P | 00:40 |
| Kalidarn | for that to happen a merge would need to occur and then it would take ages to be stable or usable | 00:40 |
| boogie1 | but the have very a clon of every app and Gtk is equivalent to Qt, as someone say | 00:40 |
| Kalidarn | longer than when KDE 4 came out :P | 00:40 |
| Kalidarn | boogie1: yeah it is sad :P but i guess it makes competition | 00:41 |
| Kalidarn | one tries to be better than the other | 00:41 |
| boogie1 | what a waste of time. | 00:41 |
| boogie1 | but i understando | 00:41 |
| boogie1 | *understand | 00:41 |
| Kalidarn | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Slab that is slab | 00:41 |
| boogie1 | Kalidarn: thanks!! | 00:41 |
| boogie1 | ill check it | 00:42 |
| Kalidarn | i think kickoff and systemsettings are nicer | 00:42 |
| boogie1 | Kalidarn: where? | 00:42 |
| boogie1 | by nicer u mean better? | 00:42 |
| Kalidarn | yeah | 00:42 |
| Sonic132 | Ok...so I have an issue. Anyone available? | 00:42 |
| Kalidarn | and nicer | 00:42 |
| Kalidarn | looks better, functions better | 00:42 |
| boogie1 | k. | 00:42 |
| Kalidarn | systemsettings is exactly like osx's system settings anyway :P | 00:43 |
| boogie1 | Kalidarn: help Sonic132 | 00:43 |
| Kalidarn | good design works well | 00:43 |
| boogie1 | i care more about code than design | 00:43 |
| Kalidarn | Sonic132: you need to tell us what it is | 00:43 |
| boogie1 | but its imp. | 00:43 |
| Kalidarn | yah code too | 00:43 |
| boogie1 | sure | 00:43 |
| Kalidarn | slab isn't all that stable | 00:43 |
| Kalidarn | as it was third party | 00:43 |
| boogie1 | mm. | 00:43 |
| Kalidarn | from memory when i tried to use it on a distro other than suse | 00:43 |
| boogie1 | can i ask you a non kubuntu question? | 00:43 |
| Kalidarn | yeah | 00:44 |
| Maui | hi all.. is there someone who use kdevelop? i don't know how to configure it for java project | 00:44 |
| Kalidarn | Maui: would that java project be using swing? | 00:44 |
| Sonic132 | Ok so I tried to install Kubuntu 10.04 LTS on a second hard drive so as to keep Windows and Lin seperated. But it always fails during the formatting ext4 part of the installation. So now XP wont boot. I get no bootloader at all. It just flashes the dos cursor. | 00:44 |
| Kalidarn | your probably better off using netbeans or eclipse it's what i use for java and j2ee | 00:44 |
| Sonic132 | Kalidarn: There you go. | 00:45 |
| boogie1 | Kalidarn: i dont know much about IT. When you say design we are still talking about code, because all images are generated by code, right? | 00:45 |
| Kalidarn | hmm, does it quit the installer Sonic132? | 00:45 |
| Kalidarn | boogie1: yeah something like that | 00:45 |
| Kalidarn | they're PNG or SVG or XPM images usually | 00:45 |
| Maui | Kalidarn: no, it's a port of opencv. I only need an 'how to' to import needed libraries | 00:45 |
| Sonic132 | Kalidarn: Yeah...it gives me an unable to format the partion error and quits the setup. | 00:45 |
| boogie1 | Kalidarn: mmm ok thankls | 00:45 |
| Kalidarn | also human interface guidelines i think for kickoff are more explanitory | 00:45 |
| boogie1 | Kalidarn: k! | 00:46 |
| boogie1 | Kalidarn: like gui? | 00:46 |
| Kalidarn | Maui: I haven't used that :P | 00:46 |
| Kalidarn | Sonic132: GPT or MBR? | 00:46 |
| Kalidarn | oh you'd be using the ubuntu installer hmm | 00:46 |
| Sonic132 | Kalidarn: What? You mean the error? | 00:46 |
| Maui | Kalidarn: have u never used kdevelop? | 00:46 |
| Kalidarn | are you installing /boot to a primary partition | 00:47 |
| Sonic132 | Kalidarn: I could try and reproduce the error so I could find out. | 00:47 |
| Kalidarn | yeah and if it's in the installer switch to the last tty i think it's control alt F12 | 00:47 |
| Kalidarn | or F11 | 00:47 |
| Kalidarn | it shows you stuff | 00:47 |
| Sonic132 | Kalidarn: YEah...I told it to wipe the entire drive. The seperate drive from the Windows one. | 00:47 |
| Kalidarn | partition or hard disk? | 00:47 |
| Kalidarn | Maui: not for java | 00:48 |
| Sonic132 | Karlidarn: Ok...so it's on the Live CD that I'm installing in. So I press Alt+F12 in there? | 00:48 |
| Kalidarn | control + alt | 00:48 |
| boogie1 | Kalidarn: i see u r awesome at multitasking | 00:49 |
| Kalidarn | Sonic132: what's the last message in there | 00:50 |
| Sonic132 | Kalidarn: Haven't booted the Live CD completely yet. It's kind of slow. | 00:50 |
| Kalidarn | actually that might not work on kubuntu you might just have to tail /var.log/messages on say tty1 | 00:51 |
| Kalidarn | did the kubuntu installer actually try to reboot your machine? | 00:51 |
| Kalidarn | after it was finished | 00:51 |
| Kalidarn | Sonic132: you might have better luck using the one on the desktop of the livecd | 00:51 |
| Sonic132 | Kalidarn: No...it didn't finish. It failed formatting the ext4 partition. | 00:51 |
| Kalidarn | for some reason the other one crashes :P | 00:51 |
| Kalidarn | hmmm that's strange. | 00:52 |
| Sonic132 | Kalidarn: That's how I did it. From the desktop of the LiveCD. | 00:52 |
| Sonic132 | Kalidarn: I wish i could get XP to boot then I could try Wubi instead. | 00:52 |
| Sonic132 | But the bootloader is apparently gone or something cause it wont boot. | 00:53 |
| Sonic132 | Kalidarn: It's freaking slow. So it's finally on the splash screen. | 00:54 |
| Kalidarn | hmmm | 00:54 |
| Kalidarn | wasn't all that slow when i used it earlier today :P | 00:54 |
| Kalidarn | but yeah it is loading everything from the disc | 00:54 |
| bng007 | Kalidarn: in this: "mount -t nfs4 -o proto=tcp,port=2049 nfs-server:/ /mnt" | 00:54 |
| bng007 | Kalidarn: nfs-server should be ip address? | 00:54 |
| Kalidarn | bng007: i'd assume so i haven't followed that guide | 00:54 |
| Sonic132 | Yeah...I'm thinking it's the computer. But I don't understand it cause we have lots of ram and a dvd/cd writer. | 00:54 |
| Kalidarn | it looks like it | 00:55 |
| Sonic132 | Ok, going to start the setup again. Then I'll let you know the error when it fails. | 00:57 |
| Kalidarn | :P X just crashed on me for some weird reason | 00:58 |
| Kalidarn | [ 3037.270] 15: /usr/lib/xorg/extra-modules/nvidia_drv.so (0x7f8758214000+0x3ad411) [0x7f87585c1411] | 00:58 |
| Kalidarn | [ 3037.270] 16: /usr/bin/X (0x400000+0x2c2d9) [0x42c2d9] | 00:58 |
| Kalidarn | [ 3037.270] 17: /usr/bin/X (0x400000+0x2184b) [0x42184b] | 00:58 |
| Kalidarn | [ 3037.270] 18: /lib/libc.so.6 (__libc_start_main+0xfe) [0x7f875c807d8e] | 00:58 |
| Kalidarn | [ 3037.270] 19: /usr/bin/X (0x400000+0x213d9) [0x4213d9] | 00:58 |
| FloodBotK1 | Kalidarn: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. | 00:58 |
| Kalidarn | [ 3060.835] [mi] EQ overflowing. The server is probably stuck in an infinite loop. | 00:58 |
| Kalidarn | aw well probably nvidia bug | 00:58 |
| bng007 | Kalidarn: lol - as simple as this: sudo mount ip:/media /mnt/point | 00:59 |
| Kalidarn | yeah that will be temporary tho | 00:59 |
| Kalidarn | u'll need to add it to fstab permentely | 00:59 |
| bng007 | Kalidarn: I know :) and thank you | 01:01 |
| Kalidarn | also consider this: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/NFS-HOWTO/security.html | 01:01 |
| Kalidarn | if security is important in your environment | 01:01 |
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| Sonic132 | Kalidarn: Got the Error. Title: Failed to create a file system Details: The ext4 file system creation in partition #1 of SCSI7 (0,0,0) (sdg) failed. | 01:15 |
| Sonic132 | Also, it's at 0% | 01:16 |
| Kalidarn | hmm | 01:16 |
| Kalidarn | try doing mkfs.ext4 on it | 01:17 |
| Kalidarn | from a terminal | 01:17 |
| Sonic132 | That's the whole command? | 01:18 |
| Sonic132 | It gave me a syntax listing. | 01:19 |
| Sonic132 | How would I use it in my case? | 01:19 |
| Kalidarn | mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdg | 01:22 |
| Kalidarn | and see if it gives u anything else | 01:22 |
| Kalidarn | anything look wrong in fdisk -l | 01:22 |
| Kalidarn | maybe cylinder overlaps or something weird windows has done | 01:22 |
| Sonic132 | Kalidarn: after the mkfs. it gave me 'mkfs.ext4: Permission denied while trying to determine filesystem size' | 01:26 |
| Kalidarn | did you use sudo | 01:26 |
| Kalidarn | or do it as root | 01:26 |
| Sonic132 | I did it as you typed it. | 01:26 |
| Sonic132 | I'll try it as sudo | 01:27 |
| Kalidarn | you need to use sudo then the command if it's a user your logged in as ie the $ | 01:27 |
| Kalidarn | as ooposed to the # | 01:27 |
| blackwood | Hi there - I'm interested in migrating to Kubuntu from my Ubuntu OS. What are the pros and cons? | 01:27 |
| Sonic132 | Yeah...still got an error. '/dev/sdg is apparently in use by the system; will not make a filesystem here!' | 01:28 |
| Kalidarn | Sonic132: make sure it's unmounted first | 01:28 |
| Kalidarn | so sudo umount /dev/sdg | 01:28 |
| Sonic132 | Can't you still just install the kde desktop over ubuntu? | 01:28 |
| Kalidarn | u can install them sideby side | 01:28 |
| Kalidarn | if you want | 01:28 |
| Sonic132 | 'dev/sdg: not mounted' Sorry I was asking on behalf of blackwood. | 01:29 |
| blackwood | cool I'll give it a try | 01:29 |
| Kalidarn | http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kde | 01:30 |
| Sonic132 | He left. | 01:30 |
| Sonic132 | But yeah...it says it's not mounted. | 01:30 |
| Kalidarn | hmm | 01:30 |
| Kalidarn | that is strange. | 01:31 |
| Kalidarn | when you do fdisk -l | 01:31 |
| Kalidarn | see any errors | 01:31 |
| Sonic132 | I'll start the setup (if possible) to get a read on the partition/hd names. | 01:31 |
| Kalidarn | seems to be some reason it does no want to format | 01:31 |
| Kalidarn | have any logical paritions? | 01:31 |
| Kalidarn | did u let the ubuntu installer create them? | 01:31 |
| Sonic132 | It doesn't say anything at all when I type fdisk -l | 01:31 |
| Sonic132 | Yeah...I told the installer to wipe and format the entire drive. | 01:32 |
| Kalidarn | i usually install linux first | 01:32 |
| Sonic132 | It should have done that automatically. | 01:32 |
| Kalidarn | and windows second | 01:32 |
| Kalidarn | because windows is kind of annoying | 01:32 |
| Kalidarn | with he way it allocates cylinders | 01:33 |
| Sonic132 | That never worked for me. Bootloaders never worked if I installed Windows second. | 01:33 |
| Kalidarn | yeah u just have to reinstall grub | 01:33 |
| Kalidarn | but thats easy to do | 01:33 |
| Kalidarn | its because windows overwrites grub all the time when it finishes installing | 01:33 |
| Sonic132 | Well as it stands now I can't boot Windows. Maybe installing Grub would fix that as well. | 01:33 |
| Kalidarn | probably :P | 01:33 |
| Kalidarn | it'd give you a bootloader | 01:34 |
| Sonic132 | But if I got this install to work. It'd do it anyway. | 01:34 |
| Sonic132 | Is fdisk supposed to say something. Cause it doesn't. | 01:34 |
| Kalidarn | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling%20GRUB%202 | 01:35 |
| Kalidarn | fdisk -l should show partitions | 01:35 |
| Kalidarn | if not it may be the disk is using GTP | 01:35 |
| Kalidarn | GPT | 01:35 |
| Sonic132 | GPT? | 01:35 |
| Kalidarn | a newer replacement to MBR but note windows can't boot off that | 01:35 |
| Sonic132 | Gnome Partion Table? | 01:35 |
| Kalidarn | no | 01:35 |
| Kalidarn | GUID Partition Table | 01:35 |
| Kalidarn | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table | 01:35 |
| Kalidarn | it's a replacement to MBR that windows uses for computers with EFI, and apple use it too | 01:36 |
| Sonic132 | How'd that get on there? | 01:36 |
| Kalidarn | it might not be :P | 01:36 |
| Kalidarn | unless your on a mac :P | 01:36 |
| Sonic132 | It was working until I tried to format a harddrive for linux. | 01:36 |
| Kalidarn | windows won't format a disk with it | 01:36 |
| Kalidarn | by default in the installer | 01:36 |
| Kalidarn | it will however if it's say a second disk in your computer | 01:36 |
| Kalidarn | ie sdb | 01:36 |
| Kalidarn | fdisk -l will tell you if it is GPT | 01:37 |
| Kalidarn | it'll say something like | 01:37 |
| Kalidarn | WARNING: GPT (GUID Partition Table) detected on '/dev/sda'! The util fdisk doesn't support GPT. Use GNU Parted. | 01:37 |
| Kalidarn | and hence fdisk -l does not show partitions | 01:37 |
| Sonic132 | Well when my MyBook drive isn't connected the drive I'm trying to format is called sdb. | 01:37 |
| Kalidarn | oh sure because its the second disk on your computer | 01:37 |
| Sonic132 | I'm not using the same harddrive as Windows. | 01:38 |
| Kalidarn | i meant a second disk on an ata channel | 01:38 |
| Sonic132 | Ah...if I remember correctly they are all on seperate SATA channels. | 01:38 |
| Kalidarn | well by that i mean actually physically using sata (doesn't matter if its master or slave) | 01:39 |
| Sonic132 | Hmm...so what's the prognosis doc? | 01:40 |
| Kalidarn | i would just in the installer for ubuntu | 01:40 |
| Kalidarn | install ubuntu say to root | 01:40 |
| Kalidarn | and make a swap partition and a boot one | 01:40 |
| Kalidarn | and then make another primary one for windows | 01:40 |
| Sonic132 | So redo Windows all over again? | 01:40 |
| Kalidarn | you might have to | 01:41 |
| Kalidarn | do it second | 01:41 |
| Kalidarn | after the partitions are created (and don't obviously delete them in the windows installer) | 01:41 |
| Sonic132 | We just got it to where we want it. Everythings updated to the newest versions. I don't really want to have to do that. | 01:41 |
| Kalidarn | oh :P | 01:42 |
| Sonic132 | We have a very limited amount of downloading we can do per month. So we'd have to redownload everything again. | 01:42 |
| Kalidarn | hmm | 01:42 |
| Kalidarn | so do you get an error when typing sudo fdisk -l? | 01:43 |
| Kalidarn | what do you mean by 'it doesn't show anything' | 01:43 |
| Sonic132 | ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ fdisk -l | 01:44 |
| Sonic132 | ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ | 01:44 |
| Kalidarn | sudo | 01:44 |
| Sonic132 | That's what I mean. It outputs nothing. | 01:44 |
| Kalidarn | fdisk requires superuser | 01:44 |
| Sonic132 | Ahhh...ok | 01:44 |
| Kalidarn | you need to either sudo su | 01:45 |
| Kalidarn | and then type | 01:45 |
| Kalidarn | # fdisk -l | 01:45 |
| Kalidarn | or | 01:45 |
| FloodBotK1 | Kalidarn: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. | 01:45 |
| Kalidarn | $ sudo fdisk -l | 01:45 |
| Kalidarn | (not actually typing the # or $ it represents root and user respectively) | 01:45 |
| Sonic132 | Ok got it to output something now. What am I looking for? | 01:45 |
| Kalidarn | paste it in a pastebin | 01:45 |
| Kalidarn | like above | 01:46 |
| Sonic132 | I can try to type it in there. But the computer that is having the problems obviously doesn't have internet. | 01:46 |
| Kalidarn | oh :P no network hmm | 01:46 |
| Kalidarn | can you plug a usb stick in | 01:46 |
| Kalidarn | and mount it | 01:46 |
| Kalidarn | then do fdisk -l > file.txt | 01:46 |
| Sonic132 | No. I have a Cricket USB modem connection. Don't know how to get it to connect in Linux. | 01:47 |
| Kalidarn | i mean a USB memory stick | 01:47 |
| Kalidarn | so i can see what the exact output is | 01:47 |
| Kalidarn | ie | 01:47 |
| Kalidarn | cd /mnt | 01:47 |
| Sonic132 | I will go get a flash drive. Brb | 01:47 |
| Kalidarn | mkdir -p /mnt/usb | 01:48 |
| Kalidarn | mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/usb | 01:48 |
| Kalidarn | fdisk -l > /mnt/usb/file.txt | 01:48 |
| Kalidarn | umount /dev/sdb1 | 01:48 |
| Kalidarn | (it might be sdc depending on how many disks are in that computer | 01:49 |
| Sonic132 | Doesn't it automount it? | 01:49 |
| Kalidarn | it might | 01:49 |
| Kalidarn | im not sure if it does in the installer | 01:49 |
| Sonic132 | It detected it and is showing the contents. | 01:49 |
| Kalidarn | it probably will :P then | 01:49 |
| Sonic132 | Ok...skip a step awesome. | 01:49 |
| Kalidarn | so then just fdisk -l > /media/usbsticklabel/file.txt | 01:50 |
| Kalidarn | may need to click on it in the device notifier | 01:50 |
| Kalidarn | so that a dolphin window comes up viewing the contents (that will mount it) | 01:50 |
| Sonic132 | Ok that worked. | 01:52 |
| Sonic132 | Does this work: http://paste.ubuntu.com/519001/ ? | 01:52 |
| Kalidarn | there appears to be 4 disks in this computer? | 01:53 |
| Kalidarn | it should not look like this | 01:54 |
| Kalidarn | if those are partitions | 01:54 |
| Sonic132 | Hmmm...I believe one hd has two partitions. From what my dad said. Windows insisted on making a 16MB second partition for no reason. | 01:54 |
| Kalidarn | sdi i assume is your usb stick | 01:54 |
| Sonic132 | Then there is a second. Then a mybook external hd. | 01:55 |
| Sonic132 | I suppose | 01:55 |
| Kalidarn | ah okay that's better | 01:55 |
| Kalidarn | well then there's just 2 disks | 01:55 |
| Sonic132 | I could unplug the MyBook drive if itd make it simpler. | 01:56 |
| Kalidarn | it wont change anything :P | 01:56 |
| Sonic132 | Ok | 01:56 |
| Kalidarn | you're obviously going to need to resize here | 01:56 |
| Kalidarn | which one is the one you want to put linux on /dev/sdf or /dev/sde | 01:57 |
| Sonic132 | Well the setup doesn't do that. | 01:57 |
| Kalidarn | hmm | 01:57 |
| Kalidarn | where is sda sdb sdc and sdc | 01:57 |
| Sonic132 | Not sure. It shows sdf1, sde1, and sdh1 | 01:58 |
| Kalidarn | i assume sde is the one with windows on it? | 01:59 |
| Kalidarn | why can't you reformat sdf | 01:59 |
| Kalidarn | and let it repartition | 01:59 |
| Kalidarn | ie guided full disk | 01:59 |
| Kalidarn | perhaps you can sudo apt-get install gparted and then create your partitions how you like in that | 02:00 |
| Sonic132 | Maybe...thought apt-get install was off the internet. | 02:01 |
| Kalidarn | oh :P | 02:01 |
| Kalidarn | lol i forget :P | 02:01 |
| Kalidarn | because i usally have internet in the installer | 02:01 |
| Kalidarn | it should be on the cdrom | 02:01 |
| Sonic132 | TRying to get back to the partitioning part of the setup. So I can hopefully find some answers. | 02:01 |
| Kalidarn | you'd need to uncoment in /etc/apt/sources.list | 02:02 |
| Kalidarn | # deb cdrom:[Kubuntu 10.10 _Maverick Meerkat_ - Release amd64 (20101008)]/ maverick main restricted | 02:02 |
| Kalidarn | # deb cdrom:[Kubuntu 10.10 _Maverick Meerkat_ - Release amd64 (20101008)]/ maverick main restricted | 02:02 |
| FloodBotK1 | Kalidarn: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. | 02:02 |
| Kalidarn | (oops only one of them) | 02:02 |
| Sonic132 | gedit isn't a command anymore? | 02:03 |
| Kalidarn | it is a gtk editor | 02:03 |
| Kalidarn | you want kate in KDE | 02:03 |
| Sonic132 | oh ok | 02:03 |
| Kalidarn | gedit is part of gnome | 02:03 |
| Sonic132 | Also, I'm using 10.04 not 10.10. But I doubt it matters. | 02:04 |
| Kalidarn | you have a most peculiar partition scheme there | 02:04 |
| Kalidarn | yeah it shouldn't matter much | 02:04 |
| Kalidarn | (you should always backup important data before resizing too btw) | 02:05 |
| Sonic132 | main restricted is apparently by default uncommented. | 02:05 |
| Kalidarn | i mean the source that has | 02:05 |
| Kalidarn | cdrom:[Kubuntu 10.10 _Maverick Meerkat_ - Release amd64 (20101008)]/ | 02:06 |
| Kalidarn | or 10.04 Lucid Lynx | 02:06 |
| Kalidarn | at the top | 02:06 |
| Kalidarn | with the cdrom: in front of it | 02:06 |
| KimLaRoux | Good evening all | 02:06 |
| Sonic132 | Well I didn't realize that messing with a partition on a completely seperate hd was going to break the windows bootloader. | 02:06 |
| Kalidarn | it obviously tried to install grub and something went wrong there dev/sda sdb and sdc are missing for some strange reason | 02:06 |
| Kalidarn | if you uncomment the cdrom: entry in sources.list | 02:07 |
| Kalidarn | then do apt-get update it should fetch from the cdrom | 02:07 |
| Sonic132 | I still don't see that particular source. | 02:07 |
| Kalidarn | you should then be able to install gparted | 02:07 |
| Sonic132 | The first uncommented entry is the CDROM source. | 02:08 |
| Sonic132 | lucid main restricted | 02:08 |
| Kalidarn | yeah then just apt-get update | 02:08 |
| Kalidarn | then apt-get install gparted | 02:08 |
| Sonic132 | Ok | 02:08 |
| Kalidarn | should fetch it off the disc | 02:08 |
| Sonic132 | Wont do it. Gave me a ton of output. How do I save it on my flashdrive? | 02:10 |
| Sonic132 | Or do you want it? | 02:10 |
| Kalidarn | 404s? | 02:10 |
| Sonic132 | YEah...pretty much. A lot of 'Could not resolves' | 02:10 |
| Kalidarn | i'd recommend letting the ubuntu installer partition the complete disk | 02:12 |
| Kalidarn | and then installing windows | 02:12 |
| Kalidarn | then installing grub | 02:12 |
| KimLaRoux | Hello all, I am wondering about something and thought someone here might have the information or experience to lightens me | 02:12 |
| Kalidarn | or installing windows (which version is it btw your trying to install?) | 02:12 |
| Kalidarn | i think something has gone wrong there with the partition table from my experience not even windows does that | 02:12 |
| Sonic132 | Windows XP and Kubuntu 10.04 LTS. | 02:12 |
| Sonic132 | Just got XP to SP3 and all the drivers are brand new. | 02:13 |
| KimLaRoux | I'm running out of disk space so I have to change my HD, but I don't want to reinstall everything, is there an easy way to like, backup all the settings and installed applications? | 02:13 |
| Kalidarn | KimLaRoux: something like this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35087 | 02:14 |
| Kalidarn | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem | 02:15 |
| Kalidarn | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem/TAR | 02:15 |
| Kalidarn | the second one is on the wiki | 02:15 |
| Kalidarn | Sonic132: infact here i installed windows first, xp sp3 then ubuntu 10.04 on my old laptop | 02:17 |
| Kalidarn | so i know it works :P | 02:17 |
| Kalidarn | maybe do a media check? | 02:17 |
| Sonic132 | media check? | 02:17 |
| Kalidarn | from the menu to check the cd burnt correctly | 02:17 |
| Sonic132 | Ah...well it's a bought CD from the website. So hopefully it did. | 02:18 |
| Sonic132 | Ok looking at the 'Prepare Partitions' portion of the setup. | 02:19 |
| Kalidarn | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/519014 | 02:20 |
| Kalidarn | that's what it should look like | 02:20 |
| KimLaRoux | Thanks Kalidarn, this is exactly what I had in mind! | 02:20 |
| Kalidarn | Sonic132: as you can see windows was installed on sda1 | 02:20 |
| Kalidarn | as a Primary partition | 02:20 |
| Kalidarn | then Linux on sda2 | 02:20 |
| Kalidarn | and linux swap | 02:20 |
| Sonic132 | YEah all neat and orderly. Not sure what happened to ours. It's all out of wack. | 02:22 |
| Sonic132 | Also, you have it all on one harddrive | 02:22 |
| Sonic132 | It just doesn't want to be split up from Windows? It wants to make a new friend or something? | 02:23 |
| Sonic132 | Hey! I got an idea. I could boot up as much as I can onto this machine with a flash drive? | 02:23 |
| Kalidarn | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/519015 | 02:24 |
| Sonic132 | From the failed Windows Ubuntu machine. | 02:24 |
| Kalidarn | its like something tried to resize | 02:24 |
| Sonic132 | I thought you could already share files. Also, I thought Linux did not like NTFS. | 02:24 |
| Kalidarn | but it didn't work :) | 02:24 |
| Kalidarn | linux can read and write to NTFS | 02:25 |
| Kalidarn | not as fast as other filesystems but with NTFS-3G it works just fine | 02:25 |
| Kalidarn | and you may need to defragment it every now and again :P | 02:25 |
| Sonic132 | Ok...well I'm going to see if I can backup some stuff from Windows. And then I can start over with Ubuntu. | 02:25 |
| Sonic132 | erm Kubuntu, same difference. | 02:26 |
| Kalidarn | don't create lots of partitions in windows's installer | 02:26 |
| Kalidarn | it can make things go wrong usually if i install windows first i just make 'one' partition | 02:26 |
| Sonic132 | Didn't you suggest to install Windows second? | 02:26 |
| Kalidarn | for windows to install itself on | 02:26 |
| Kalidarn | then i do the rest in ubuntu | 02:26 |
| Kalidarn | it doesn't really matter | 02:26 |
| Kalidarn | windows by default will put itself on a primary partition | 02:26 |
| Sonic132 | Which is easier to screw up? I want to do the other option. | 02:26 |
| Kalidarn | probably installing linux second is best because then you don't have to reinstall grub | 02:27 |
| Kalidarn | windows always installs NTDLR (it's bootloader) you don't get a choice :P | 02:27 |
| Kalidarn | so if grub is there | 02:27 |
| Sonic132 | Ok...sounds good. | 02:27 |
| Kalidarn | it wipes it :P | 02:27 |
| Kalidarn | Sonic132: i suggest you make one partition for C: | 02:28 |
| Sonic132 | Yeah...I remember that. | 02:28 |
| Kalidarn | and then when you get to ubuntu | 02:28 |
| Kalidarn | do the rest | 02:28 |
| Kalidarn | i usually make 3 primary partitions, one for C: | 02:28 |
| Kalidarn | one for /boot | 02:28 |
| Kalidarn | and one for / | 02:28 |
| Sonic132 | Ok so one partition on C for Windows and two partitions on D: for Kubuntu? | 02:28 |
| Kalidarn | then i create a logical partition (which contains the swap for windows and the swap for linux, and then the spare data) | 02:29 |
| Sonic132 | Ok 3 on D: | 02:29 |
| Kalidarn | yeah but only create the 1 C: in windows | 02:29 |
| Kalidarn | i might just check to see windows starts at sector 1 | 02:29 |
| Sonic132 | Ok how do I find the Windows Partition in Ubuntu? I'm having a little trouble finding it to copy files out. | 02:30 |
| Sonic132 | Nevermind got it. | 02:30 |
| Kalidarn | also i think in windows and i can't remember if it's only windows 7 and vista | 02:31 |
| Kalidarn | it gives you an option to start at the beginning of the disk | 02:31 |
| Kalidarn | this is what i like to do :P | 02:31 |
| Kalidarn | Sonic132: you can actually create the partitions before you get into windows while your still in the livecd if you wish | 02:32 |
| Kalidarn | ubuntu gives you much more control | 02:32 |
| Kalidarn | i suspect what happend in your case is some shrinking tried to occur and something went wrong | 02:32 |
| Kalidarn | shrinking is fraught with danger | 02:33 |
| Kalidarn | also it might be an idea to unplug the other disks you don't want to format so you don't format them accidentally | 02:33 |
| Kalidarn | also by default the bootloader will go on the first disk picked up by your BIOS | 02:34 |
| Kalidarn | least that's what i'm pretty sure the ubuntu installer does | 02:34 |
| Sonic132 | Ok...but I can't do much without a partitioner Kalidarn. | 02:34 |
| Kalidarn | oh yeah parted is there but it's commandline so yeah | 02:34 |
| Sonic132 | Oh yay! Command line | 02:35 |
| Kalidarn | an easier option might be to use http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php | 02:36 |
| Sonic132 | Ok I think I got what I can get from Windows backed up to the External HD. | 02:36 |
| Kalidarn | it's a livecd that loads up gparted that lets you partition it exactly how you like | 02:36 |
| James147 | Sonic132: you can install gparted or partitionmanager on the livecd for a gui partition program, or use parted or fdisk | 02:36 |
| Kalidarn | it's on;y small less than 50MB | 02:36 |
| Kalidarn | James147: except he's got a USB modem and no internet connection on that machine | 02:36 |
| Sonic132 | I could put it on a flash drive and run it in linux? | 02:36 |
| sh1ft3d | yes | 02:37 |
| sh1ft3d | live cds | 02:37 |
| James147 | Kalidarn: ^^ you can just install gparted or partition manager in the kubuntu/ubuntu live cd... that involves less burning of disks :) | 02:37 |
| sh1ft3d | but your mobo has to support usb booting | 02:37 |
| Kalidarn | ah k :P for some reason it wasn't picking it up off the disc | 02:37 |
| James147 | :S no internet could be a problem though | 02:37 |
| Sonic132 | James...how? WE already tried to do just that. | 02:38 |
| James147 | although I am fairly sure gparted use to be on the disk ... not sure if it is anymore | 02:38 |
| Sonic132 | Unless I could get the Cricket modem to work somehow? | 02:38 |
| Kalidarn | never used one of those :P | 02:38 |
| Kalidarn | http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-setup-cricket-wireless-a600-broadband-modem-in-ubuntu.html that might be a hint though | 02:38 |
| Kalidarn | i don't use wireless broadband | 02:39 |
| Sonic132 | I don't think I have the a600. I got the Calcomp or Cal-comp usb modem. | 02:39 |
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| Sonic132 | Unless they're the same. | 02:39 |
| Kalidarn | and the carriers here seem to have the huawei ones | 02:39 |
| Kalidarn | note that is from may 2009 :P | 02:40 |
| Kalidarn | i need to go to bed :P | 02:41 |
| Sonic132 | Hah...well hopefully I'll set up the computer right. So I don't have to do another reinstall. | 02:42 |
| Kalidarn | yeah i'd say a resize tried to occur and it went wrong making some partitions disappear because from that fdisk there seems to be no /dev/sda, sdb or sdc http://paste.ubuntu.com/519001/ | 02:43 |
| Sonic132 | Yeah...it's weird. | 02:44 |
| Kalidarn | gparted is a nice livecd very easy to use for fiddling with strange partition tables | 02:44 |
| Kalidarn | especially when you has no internet in ubuntu | 02:44 |
| Sonic132 | Ok. But I'd still have to reinstall Windows no? | 02:45 |
| Kalidarn | yeah | 02:45 |
| Kalidarn | but you can make the partition table how you want it | 02:45 |
| Sonic132 | Then what's the point? | 02:45 |
| Sonic132 | Ah ok. | 02:45 |
| Kalidarn | and make sure it's in nice consecutive order | 02:45 |
| Kalidarn | and then just format it not actually make partition table | 02:45 |
| Kalidarn | can ensure that nothing strange happens | 02:45 |
| Kalidarn | its either that or you install linux (using ubuntu's installer and then install windows afterwards) | 02:46 |
| Kalidarn | and then you'd have to install grub anyway | 02:46 |
| Kalidarn | gparted-live-0.6.4-1.iso it's 122MB | 02:47 |
| Kalidarn | for the CD image | 02:47 |
| Kalidarn | http://sourceforge.net/projects/gparted/files/gparted-live-stable/ | 02:48 |
| Sonic132 | Ah ok. I was looking for it. | 02:48 |
| Sonic132 | Ok...going to be about a 2 hour download more or less. So I guess some TV is called for. | 02:51 |
| Kalidarn | Sonic132: you must have slow internets :) | 02:52 |
| Sonic132 | That's Cricket 'Broadband' for you. | 02:52 |
| Sonic132 | They fail hard. | 02:52 |
| Kalidarn | where on earth do you live | 02:53 |
| Kalidarn | i thought where i lived had sucky internet | 02:53 |
| Sonic132 | Out in the country. A little town called Mathis, TX. Population of (I think) 5 thousand. | 02:53 |
| Kalidarn | ah | 02:53 |
| mycide | having trouble with kubuntu 10.10 getting drivers for Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 03) installed...anyone who can help please pm | 02:53 |
| Kalidarn | mycide: looked at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx | 02:54 |
| Kalidarn | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#Installing%20BCM43xx%20drivers that part | 02:55 |
| mycide | i will, thank you....last docs i read said to install fwcutter, but that did not seem effective | 02:56 |
| bng007 | hi Kalidarn, can I bother you? | 03:03 |
| Kalidarn | yah im still here | 03:03 |
| bng007 | great, I got my NFS share mounted using fstab, it is in /mnt/media, but it is read-only | 03:04 |
| bng007 | do I need to change fstab options or the direcotry permisions maybe? | 03:05 |
| bng007 | i just learned - the folder is owned by different user number than is mine - how is that possible? | 03:10 |
| bng007 | it is strange - when unmounted, the folder has my ownership (after I set it), but after "sudo mount -all" it changes its ownership to the other user | 03:21 |
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| gorgonzola | hello. anyone knows how can i debug kde sessions? i.e., mine is not starting, it hangs right after the third icon in the login box | 03:42 |
| Guest76750 | gorgonzola | 03:43 |
| Guest76750 | trade me some cheese bread | 03:43 |
| Guest76750 | ill let u know how | 03:43 |
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| gorgonzola | dude, i'm not in the mood for jokes. do you know if there's any logs outside of kdm.log or not? | 03:44 |
| e__ | yup | 03:45 |
| e__ | there are | 03:45 |
| e__ | now hand over the bread | 03:45 |
| gorgonzola | ok, here, bread. | 03:45 |
| e__ | before i pump you fulla led | 03:45 |
| e__ | is it gorgonzola cheesey bread? or just , bread? | 03:45 |
| Sonic132 | Going to try and get as much internet bandwith as possible. So I'm going to get off of IRC for a bit. Be back later y'all | 03:47 |
| an1 | clear | 03:49 |
| dorkface | Hi all. If I wanted to statically map an IP to a name, would that go into resolv.conf? | 03:58 |
| DarkriftX | does anyone know of a guide to get broadcom bcm4306 drivers working on kubuntu 10.10? all the results i get from google are from 2005-2007 and i doubt they are still valid | 04:13 |
| moetunes | !broadcom | 04:47 |
| ubottu | Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx | 04:47 |
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| DarkriftX | lol | 05:00 |
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| DarkriftX | not a good name to join irc with | 05:00 |
| DarkriftX | especially on a linux channel | 05:00 |
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| epoxy | hello.. does anyone else sometimes experience a huge lag when browsing system directories within KDE | 07:12 |
| epoxy | not all the time.. just lots of the time. I've been experiencing this for years on all my boxes | 07:13 |
| epoxy | drives me nuts | 07:17 |
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| akillex_ | x | 09:55 |
| akillex_ | x | 09:55 |
| akillex_ | x | 09:55 |
| FloodBotK1 | akillex_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. | 09:56 |
| naftilos76 | hi everyone. has DVD-RW automount function been in 10.10 or not? any experience on that? | 09:58 |
| naftilos76 | has DVD-RW automount function been restored in 10.10 or not? any experience on that? | 10:02 |
| polis | ciao | 10:12 |
| rua | i wanna watch film on ubuntu but avi formats don't open | 10:13 |
| rua | do u recommend a program to watch avi ? | 10:14 |
| rua | vlc player is freezing | 10:14 |
| polis | try (hd 0,0): ntfs: no ang0 on boot kubunt | 10:17 |
| polis | non i 'm live kubuntu | 10:18 |
| DarkriftX | anyone around that can tell me how to connect to an access point from command line? | 10:24 |
| DarkriftX | ive set the essid with iwconfig but its not connected | 10:24 |
| polis | hi | 10:48 |
| polis | i have error on boot kubuntu | 10:48 |
| polis | try (hd 0,0): ntfs: no ang0 | 10:48 |
| polis | now i m kubuntu live | 10:49 |
| gnuton | Hi there | 11:06 |
| gnuton | is anyone able to generate a gpg key in *ubuntu? | 11:06 |
| Unksi | yeah.. kgpg is a graphical frontend for easy key management | 11:07 |
| Unksi | has been working well for me | 11:07 |
| gnuton | Unksi: same problem with kgpg | 11:08 |
| gnuton | Unksi: it was working for me as well.. but only with old ubuntu versions | 11:08 |
| Unksi | hmm | 11:08 |
| gnuton | Unksi: I've been able to genereate a gpg key just increasing the linux entropy | 11:09 |
| gnuton | anyway now that I've a new gpg key.. I'm not able to decrypt encrypted messages | 11:10 |
| gnuton | even with kgpg | 11:11 |
| Unksi | hmm, i remember having this kind of problem as well | 11:11 |
| gnuton | I think something is messed up in 10.10 | 11:12 |
| Unksi | there was something that i got to work around it, though i have forgotten what i did | 11:12 |
| gnuton | :( | 11:12 |
| Unksi | might have been just by using the cli version of gpg | 11:12 |
| gnuton | I spent the entire morning to investigate on this.. I tried on 2 machines.. same problem | 11:12 |
| gnuton | Unksi: I used the cli version too.. | 11:13 |
| Unksi | hmm ok | 11:13 |
| Unksi | hmm, from the date, it seems that i have created this key i have with lucid, not maverick | 11:13 |
| gnuton | if I try to decrypt an enc message it ask for the passphrase and after it hangs | 11:14 |
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| haloula | hi | 12:23 |
| osm | hi guys | 12:31 |
| jarle | I can't seem to get any Adobe AIR programs to open URLs in a browser after upgrading to 10.10? | 12:34 |
| dennda | What is the difference between the CD and the DVD? http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download -- Does the latter just come with more packages by default that would otherwise be downloaded via the net anyways? | 13:00 |
| colorsoundboy | help sudo is not working :| | 13:00 |
| colorsoundboy | but I have a root account, but do not know howto enable sudo | 13:01 |
| colorsoundboy | it seems it is gone my sudo which i need ofcourse for enable and sharing files | 13:02 |
| mah454_ | Hello ... ! | 13:12 |
| mah454_ | where is yahoo room list in kopete ? | 13:13 |
| skafti | does someone know how to play games in kubuntu ? just installed one game and do not find it anywhere | 13:30 |
| === peter_ is now known as TopGear | ||
| TopGear | Hi | 13:33 |
| TopGear | I want to connect to my pc, through my ipod touch with vnc, but kubuntu denies it, because my ipod is not invited.... | 13:34 |
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| === MuzerAway is now known as muzer | ||
| Patricia | http://uploaddeimagens.com.br/imagem/ver/patriciadesktop4.png | 14:02 |
| Patricia | which the package responsible for having these effects | 14:02 |
| Patricia | the effects are working, but not in the list shows there | 14:02 |
| Walzmyn | (running 10.04) For a long time now, I've not gotten notification in my systray when I have updates. I think, sometime back I turned this off because of a bug. How can I get it turned back on? | 14:28 |
| lieuwe | hey, NetworkManager has decided to kill itself, so now my internet doesn't work, i can't start NetworkManager because it's already running, and i can't kill it because it isn't running, any ideas on wtf i could do to solve this? | 14:31 |
| Walzmyn | lieuwe: you tried rebooting? | 14:32 |
| lieuwe | Walzmyn: yes | 14:32 |
| lieuwe | Walzmyn: the network icon tells me that the connection is not managed | 14:32 |
| Walzmyn | I had issues with that thing while back. I forget what I did to get it fixed | 14:33 |
| Walzmyn | you wireless? | 14:33 |
| lieuwe | nope | 14:33 |
| lieuwe | hardwired straight into ze intertnetz | 14:34 |
| Walzmyn | emm, sorry man. Wish I could give you sagely advice | 14:34 |
| lieuwe | FFFUUUU | 14:34 |
| lieuwe | Walzmyn: thanks anyways | 14:34 |
| lieuwe | anyone else any idea on how to fix my internet connection? | 14:34 |
| Walzmyn | yeah, lightening kept killing my routers, so I just got a long cable | 14:34 |
| lieuwe | Walzmyn: :P | 14:35 |
| lieuwe | Walzmyn: just add a splitter before your router, those are like $3 and fry sooner than yer router :P | 14:35 |
| * Walzmyn nods | 14:35 | |
| BluesKaj | howdy | 14:36 |
| lieuwe | Walzmyn: rofl, people suggesting that i should apt-get wicd-deamon XD | 14:37 |
| Walzmyn | yeah, I hear alot of folks saying that's better. Don't ask me, I don't understand | 14:37 |
| Walzmyn | hia, BluesKaj | 14:37 |
| BluesKaj | hi Walzmyn | 14:38 |
| lieuwe | Walzmyn: the problem is that my internet doesnt work, so itsabit of a silly sugestion | 14:38 |
| Walzmyn | emm | 14:39 |
| lieuwe | hm, another solution thats retarded enough that it might just work, | 14:40 |
| BluesKaj | lieuwe, how are you trying to connect , wifi or ethernet? | 14:40 |
| Walzmyn | (running 10.04) For a long time now, I've not gotten notification in my systray when I have updates. I think, sometime back I turned this off because of a bug. How can I get it turned back on? | 14:41 |
| BluesKaj | Walzmyn, I think it's notifications in add widgets | 14:44 |
| Walzmyn | I've got the notification's gizmo up and running, but it dosen't tell me about updates | 14:44 |
| Walzmyn | BluesKaj: i've looked though the notification settings and kpackagekit and system settings but not found anytyhing that will turn it back on | 14:45 |
| James147 | Walzmyn: check in kpackagekit > settings > edit software sources... | 14:45 |
| BluesKaj | Walzmyn, for what it's worth I just run aptitude update whenever I log on | 14:46 |
| Walzmyn | BluesKaj: I just do it from CLI | 14:46 |
| Walzmyn | James147: what am I looking for? | 14:47 |
| James147 | Walzmyn: on the updates tab, see if its checking for updates and how often | 14:48 |
| Walzmyn | James147: it's set to check daily and notify on updates | 14:48 |
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| BluesKaj | Walzmyn, make sure the third party sources and canonical partners are enabled in other software | 14:51 |
| === baal|away is now known as baal__ | ||
| Walzmyn | BluesKaj: yes it is | 14:52 |
| James147 | Walzmyn: and you can get updates manually? | 14:52 |
| Walzmyn | oh yeah, I run apt-get from terminal. I just don't remember to do it but once a week or so | 14:52 |
| James147 | Walzmyn: try this: https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/automatic-updates.html | 14:55 |
| Walzmyn | thanks, James147, looking | 14:56 |
| kynarion | hi | 15:01 |
| kynarion | is there a repository with more recent latex-sty files than those that are included in the standard rep? | 15:03 |
| kynarion | i really need the new siunitx package, but I can't install it, because there are too many unresolved/broken dependencies | 15:05 |
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| sobczyk | hi, is there any good program for flowcharts except DIA? | 15:32 |
| === baal__ is now known as baal | ||
| trendsetter37 | why doesn't the cat command work for video files | 15:49 |
| James147 | trendsetter37: why should it?... | 15:49 |
| James147 | trendsetter37: cat only print plain text files, not binary | 15:49 |
| trendsetter37 | when i try to combine two part video files it gets the size right but it's always just the first half of the file when i try to watch it | 15:49 |
| trendsetter37 | is there anything for vid files i remember it doing it right once but thats it | 15:50 |
| elijah | The KDE Desktop Sharing window keeps presenting itself on reboot, everytime, how can I make it stop doing that? | 15:53 |
| trendsetter37 | is there a command that can combine 2 part vid files then? | 15:53 |
| James147 | trendsetter37: yo will need to decode then combine then reencode them.. | 15:54 |
| James147 | trendsetter37: not sure how to do it on command line, but kdenlive can do it | 15:54 |
| trendsetter37 | ahh ok that makes sense lol | 15:56 |
| LogicallyDashing | My control center is giving paradoxical information about desktop effects. I suspect there's a corrupt configuration file somewhere. What's the configuration file for desktop effects? | 15:58 |
| James147 | LogicallyDashing: I think its in kwins config at ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc | 16:00 |
| LogicallyDashing | thanks James147 | 16:00 |
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| trendsetter37 | appreciate it james | 16:04 |
| elijah | Figured out my Desktop Sharing issue. | 16:08 |
| === MuzerAway is now known as muzer | ||
| Cleveland112 | Hello | 16:30 |
| trendsetter37 | when i tried to decode a .avi file using uudecode in the terminal the error i received was no 'begin' line? | 16:43 |
| htrejh | /connect irc.gamesurge.net | 16:45 |
| spawn57_ | hi, does kubuntu have a kde module for cmake? | 17:02 |
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| === muzer is now known as MuzerAway | ||
| drbobb | hey is there some sort of shoutcast plugin or sych for amarok? | 17:23 |
| drbobb | s/sych/such/ | 17:23 |
| drbobb | I'd swear there used to be one in the past, but maybe I'm dreaming? | 17:24 |
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| shiri | @search Towers of Midnight | 18:00 |
| gervais | hi | 18:05 |
| gervais | wie geht's | 18:06 |
| dark3lf | Hello, how can I run X without kde ? | 18:22 |
| drbobb | install gnome | 18:25 |
| drbobb | or lxde | 18:25 |
| drbobb | or just some window manager | 18:25 |
| dark3lf | drbobb, I want kde stop running on top of X | 18:27 |
| drbobb | dark3lf: I don't parse that | 18:28 |
| gregt | lo | 18:54 |
| === sean is now known as Guest93129 | ||
| bez | hi all | 19:39 |
| bez | got a slight problem, could do with a hand | 19:39 |
| James147 | !ask | bez | 19:39 |
| ubottu | bez: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) | 19:39 |
| bez | sorry, its been a while off IRC for me :-) | 19:39 |
| bez | i lost the transparent desktop window widget from my desktop. Ive readded it using the file view widget, but now its not a window, its a giant giant desktop icon?!? | 19:40 |
| bez | any ideas how to fix it? | 19:41 |
| James147 | bez: you mean the folder view widget? | 19:42 |
| bez | yup | 19:42 |
| James147 | bez: what happens if you remove and re add it? same thing? | 19:42 |
| bez | yup | 19:43 |
| bez | ive been on gnome for a while, but i like KDE more | 19:43 |
| bez | and i dont know how to fix it | 19:43 |
| James147 | bez: hmm, could you test a new user and see if they have the same problem | 19:43 |
| bez | I can try it | 19:43 |
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| bez | brb | 19:44 |
| === Freejack is now known as Freejack` | ||
| bez | back | 19:50 |
| bez | created new user, their widget is fine | 19:50 |
| bez | so its something with mine | 19:50 |
| James147 | bez: plasma applet config files are at ~/.kde/share/config/plasma-appletrc you could try editing that (or renaming/removing it to reset plasma) | 19:51 |
| bez | ill try that, need to restart x after? | 19:52 |
| James147 | bez: nop, just need to restart plasma-desktop | 19:52 |
| James147 | (killall plasma-desktop && wait 2 && plasma-desktop) | 19:52 |
| James147 | s/wait 2/sleep 2 | 19:52 |
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| === Lord_Drachenlbut is now known as Lord_Drachenblut | ||
| bez | hi again james | 20:03 |
| bez | doesnt seem to want to play ball still | 20:04 |
| bez | was it just the one file (plasma-appletsrc) or the whole config file? | 20:05 |
| bez | config folder sorry | 20:06 |
| nobarking | why can't i get Auto Spell Check enabled by default in Quassel? | 20:07 |
| James147 | bez: you shouldent need to delete the whole config folder, but renaming/moving/deleting anything taht begins with plasma mioght work | 20:08 |
| bez | ok, ill have another bash | 20:09 |
| bez | sorry for being a pain | 20:09 |
| James147 | nobarking: settings > configer quassel > input widget > endable spell checking? | 20:10 |
| nobarking | James147: aha, there it is! Thank you | 20:10 |
| bez | james: Genius! Thanks mate. the file i was looking for was "plasma-desktop-appletsrc" | 20:16 |
| bez | james147: incase it comes up again | 20:16 |
| James147 | bez: ahh yeah :) keep forgetting its name | 20:16 |
| bez | james147: thanks for your help | 20:16 |
| James147 | (plasma-appletsrc was the old name) | 20:17 |
| James147 | it should be safe to remove that one now as it shouldnt be used anymore | 20:17 |
| bez | awesome. thanks again | 20:18 |
| bez | im off to explore my new kde :-) | 20:18 |
| bez | see you around some time | 20:18 |
| Eniak | buenas tardes, les hago una consulta | 20:22 |
| Eniak | cada vez que copio archivos o carpetas | 20:22 |
| Eniak | desde el escritorio de kubuntu | 20:22 |
| Eniak | hacia una particion ntfs | 20:22 |
| Eniak | me salta una cuadro de dialogo informandome | 20:22 |
| Eniak | "no se pudieron cambiar los permisos de <archivo>" | 20:23 |
| Eniak | ya estube tocando el fstab | 20:23 |
| jhunold | !es | Eniak | 20:23 |
| ubottu | Eniak: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter. | 20:23 |
| Eniak | pero no consigo hacer que me deje cambiar estos permisos | 20:23 |
| Eniak | roger thtat | 20:23 |
| Eniak | look, everytime i try to move files or folders from kubuntu to any ntfs partition | 20:24 |
| WaltzingAlong | !ntfs | 20:24 |
| ubottu | To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE | 20:24 |
| Eniak | i get this error " could not change permissions of <archive> or <folder> | 20:24 |
| Eniak | i got ntfs-3g installed | 20:25 |
| RadSurfer | Can someone please tell me how to REMOVE 'printer applet' and 'bluetooth applet' from da system tray, since I never use them. | 20:28 |
| RadSurfer | I want to prevent them from loading at boot. | 20:28 |
| RadSurfer | Surely there's a way to accomplish that. | 20:28 |
| WaltzingAlong | RadSurfer: could also ask in #kde | 20:32 |
| WaltzingAlong | RadSurfer: get rid of package kbluetooth | 20:32 |
| WaltzingAlong | ? | 20:32 |
| igor | оро | 20:39 |
| kaktyc | =) | 20:41 |
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| linux__ | !list | 21:10 |
| ubottu | This is not a file sharing channel (or network); be sure to read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot » | 21:10 |
| espadan7 | Hello everyone, when I installed Vmware player on Kubunbu 10.10, it has to recompile the kernl everytime it starts, but it didn't do this on 10.04, is there a way to make it stop? | 21:26 |
| WaltzingAlong | espadan7: virtualbox? dkms? | 21:28 |
| espadan7 | WaltzingAlong I forgot to install kdms | 21:29 |
| === smooph1 is now known as smooph | ||
| friese | hi | 21:39 |
| friese | its the first time i try kubuntu, before that i used opensuse. wich kernel is standard on kubuntu 10.10 | 21:39 |
| friese | and they say about a dvd version that has more languages than the cd version. | 21:39 |
| friese | does the cd-version have german language? | 21:40 |
| friese | nobody can answer my questions? | 21:45 |
| cba123 | My "Open File" dialog in Chrome isn't showing any files. It lists my drives, but not my Home or Desktop folders. It did a minute ago, but not anymore. Any ideas? | 21:50 |
| James147 | friese: 10.10 comes with kernel 2.6.35 | 21:51 |
| erdemeser | hi every one, | 22:08 |
| erdemeser | what is the purpose of this environment, | 22:08 |
| erdemeser | Is it for general use, | 22:08 |
| erdemeser | or is it dedicated on somethink like Kubuntu developers. | 22:08 |
| erdemeser | ??? | 22:08 |
| James147 | erdemeser: this is the kubuntu support channel | 22:09 |
| erdemeser | Thanks James... | 22:09 |
| James147 | erdemeser: general chat can be done in #kubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-offtopic | 22:09 |
| erdemeser | I don't want to believe that any kubuntu or ubuntu users need help... :) | 22:10 |
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| Khaotic | why cant i get openssh to accept connections? | 22:44 |
| James147 | Khaotic: do you have openssh-server install (needed for connecting to your computer) | 22:48 |
| Khaotic | yes | 22:48 |
| Khaotic | like it'll work if i try to connect to myself | 22:48 |
| Khaotic | ie; ssh 127.0.0.1 | 22:49 |
| James147 | Khaotic: are you getting an error? | 22:49 |
| Khaotic | says conection timed out | 22:49 |
| James147 | Khaotic: do you have a firewall between the computers? | 22:49 |
| Khaotic | no | 22:50 |
| Khaotic | wait, could it be that i have port 22 open on another computer/ | 22:50 |
| James147 | Khaotic: wouldnt have thourght so... can you ping the other computer? | 22:52 |
| Khaotic | let me try | 22:52 |
| Khaotic | yes | 22:53 |
| Khaotic | James147 | 22:59 |
| James147 | Khaotic: not entirly sure... looks like a connection problem rather then a problem with ssh, but I am not sure how to test it further | 23:00 |
| Khaotic | ive tried changing the port and everything | 23:01 |
| afief | I have an honest question and I hope no one misinterprets it as a troll: What makes KDE 4 so much slower than KDE3? Is it the sucky video drivers? Simply inefficient code? Too many futures? | 23:30 |
| afief | Note: I love KDE4 and wouldn't go back to 3 for the life of me, but I saw a friend of mine using KDE3.5 yesterday and was amazed by how snappy it was | 23:30 |
| christoph | hey, anyone here who could help me with a problem? | 23:43 |
| afief | christoph: state the nature of your kde emergency(and if people know how to answer they will) | 23:44 |
| christoph | The trash has reached its maximum size! | 23:45 |
| christoph | Cleanup the trash manually. --> trash is empty :( | 23:45 |
| christoph | happens whenever i try to erase some data | 23:45 |
| afief | there is a trash bin in kde? :O | 23:46 |
| westmi | yeah-would be nice to have a delete button | 23:47 |
| christoph | not only in kde but yes, i guess :) | 23:47 |
| westmi | how is the delete button enabled? | 23:47 |
| westmi | i know how in gnome, but I an new to kde :) | 23:48 |
| christoph | im a linux n00b.. and my problem encounters every time i right-click a folder with "move to trash" --> The trash has reached its maximum size! | 23:48 |
| christoph | Cleanup the trash manually. | 23:48 |
| christoph | stragen 0.o | 23:49 |
| christoph | strange.. | 23:49 |
| westmi | a delete button would help you too | 23:49 |
| westmi | no more messin with the trash | 23:49 |
| christoph | u mean like directly erasing it. would be nice :) | 23:50 |
| westmi | yes | 23:51 |
| christoph | but that doesnt change the nature of my problem. i still have to move the folder to the trash to get some extra space but i cant because the trash is "full" | 23:52 |
| christoph | help meeee: ) | 23:52 |
| christoph | help me or i'll be going back to using windows :P | 23:52 |
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| westmi | k button, computer, trash, empty trash | 23:53 |
| christoph | not possible because the trash seems to be empty, it only says that i should clean it up manually .. i dont know why :) | 23:54 |
| westmi | can you open the trash? | 23:55 |
| christoph | yes | 23:56 |
| westmi | and nothing is there? | 23:56 |
| christoph | yes | 23:56 |
| westmi | well, what are you trying to delete? | 23:56 |
| westmi | files? how big? | 23:56 |
| christoph | my music folder :P 35 Gb | 23:56 |
| westmi | akkk | 23:57 |
| westmi | now i get it | 23:57 |
| westmi | try to delete that in smaller chunks | 23:57 |
| christoph | but it wont work on any file, i tried single pdf files too | 23:57 |
| christoph | always the same message | 23:57 |
| christoph | The trash has reached its maximum size! | 23:57 |
| christoph | Cleanup the trash manually. | 23:57 |
| westmi | ahh...give me a few min and i'll figure out a cli way to delete | 23:59 |
| christoph | hf ;) | 23:59 |
| westmi | gotta look it up | 23:59 |
| apparle | christoph: why are you using trash | 23:59 |
| apparle | christoph: just dlete it | 23:59 |
| christoph | how? | 23:59 |
| apparle | christoph: Shift+Del | 23:59 |
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