[00:01] <bng007> hi all, is there any music player that would support samba shares?
[00:02] <bng007> preferably with music library/database
[00:04] <Kalidarn> bng007: that's up to the environtment
[00:04] <Kalidarn> not the media player
[00:04] <Kalidarn> unfortunately amarok isn't able to use KIO's shares because they dont seem to be mounted anywhere on the filesystem so I used sshfs
[00:04] <bng007> kde preferably, but since I have not founf any, i will go with any
[00:05] <Kalidarn> well amarok is the best one around for linux hands down
[00:05] <Kalidarn> beating rhthmbox and exhaile which are GTK ones ive used.
[00:05] <Kalidarn> bng007: is the server a windows server?
[00:05] <bng007> I use amarok too, but I just got tired with dragging the individual songs from dolphin to amarok
[00:05] <Kalidarn> ah
[00:06] <Kalidarn> i use the media library thing
[00:06] <bng007> Kalidarn: no, it is a readynas
[00:06] <Kalidarn> its the best at dealing with huge datbases
[00:06] <Kalidarn> ah
[00:06] <Kalidarn> i guess it only supports smb :(
[00:06] <Kalidarn> i used to use smb for everything on my samba server but found it rather annoying :P
[00:07] <bng007> Kalidarn I would use the library too, but it is only local... on the readynas there are more protocols also, but I dont know any of them
[00:07] <bng007> Kalidarn: and first of all, dolphin shows only samba
[00:07] <Kalidarn> it can do ftp too
[00:07] <Kalidarn> and sshfs
[00:07] <Kalidarn> but i dont think it mounts it to a folder
[00:07] <Kalidarn> like gnome does with gvfs
[00:08] <Kalidarn> sshfs application is seperate from the desktop environment
[00:08] <bng007> and ftp/sshfs would work with the amarok library?
[00:08] <Kalidarn> not through KIO
[00:08] <bng007> :(
[00:08] <Kalidarn> afaik
[00:08] <Kalidarn> im not sure i just tried to do exactly what u were doing the other day
[00:08] <Kalidarn> (it wont matter what player you use)
[00:09] <Kalidarn> you need to be able to read them as files
[00:09] <Kalidarn> imma try and have a look
[00:10] <bng007> these things seem pretty basic to me, pity it's not so
[00:10] <Kalidarn> yeah
[00:10] <Kalidarn> they are
[00:10] <Kalidarn> there may be a way or a place it does let u access it
[00:10] <Kalidarn> i just am not sure where it was
[00:10] <Kalidarn> or if KIO did that
[00:11] <Kalidarn> smb://192.168.1.254/dcecchin/ mmm that's the directory dolphin shows
[00:11] <Kalidarn> but its a virtual directory
[00:11] <Kalidarn> so maybe it's somewhere
[00:12] <Kalidarn> oh wait
[00:12] <Kalidarn> hmm
[00:12] <Kalidarn> amarok really needs the ability to add things in network places
[00:12] <Kalidarn> or
[00:13] <Kalidarn> there needs to be a place where those directories are
[00:14] <Kalidarn> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1243291 bng007 hmm
[00:14] <bng007> I installed Clementine today, but it's KDE thing it seems
[00:18] <bng007> Kalidarn: wow, that looks promising!
[00:19] <Kalidarn> also dont use smbmount
[00:19] <Kalidarn> because i used that
[00:19] <Kalidarn> and i found it had issues with shutting down and unmounting
[00:20] <Kalidarn> permanent hangs :P nobody uses it anymore
[00:20] <Kalidarn> ie http://www.art.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=255872
[00:22] <Kalidarn> bng007: i asked in #kde
[00:22] <Kalidarn> dont use smbmount
[00:22] <Kalidarn> its old
[00:22] <Kalidarn> and i dont think it works properly :P
[00:22] <Kalidarn> mmm
[00:22] <Kalidarn> they say amarok should be fine to use kio bng007
[00:22] <Kalidarn> bng007: http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/Samba
[00:22] <Kalidarn> mmm seems to be the only way
[00:23] <bng007> Kalidarn: it does not list any samba shares, though
[00:23] <Kalidarn> mount -t cifs -o fmask=444,dmask=555,guest //server/share /path/to/mount-point
[00:23] <Kalidarn> that should work
[00:23] <moetunes> Kalidarn:  I use nfs to do that
[00:23] <moetunes> !nfs
[00:23] <moetunes> !lag
[00:24] <Kalidarn> or NFS
[00:24] <Kalidarn> if your NAS supports it
[00:24] <Kalidarn> NFS or sshfs are both nice options for UNIX computers
[00:24] <Kalidarn> because they support POSIX permissions
[00:24] <Kalidarn> SMB does not really
[00:24] <Kalidarn> so its not ideal to use that with MacOSX or Linux or BSD or whatever.
[00:25] <Kalidarn> i know the NAS i have has a web interface that lets me enable other protocols
[00:25] <Kalidarn> it does nfs, smb, ftp
[00:25] <bng007> ok, so if i find NFS, how do I set it up so it just works?
[00:25] <Kalidarn> and i think sshfs
[00:25] <Kalidarn> yes bng007
[00:25] <Kalidarn> if your nas does nfs
[00:25] <Kalidarn> that's the best option
[00:25] <Kalidarn> or as good as sshfs
[00:25] <Kalidarn> much better than smb
[00:25] <FloodBotK1> Kalidarn: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:26] <bng007> Kalidarn: nfs/sshfs - how do I mount these automatically? is it in /etc/fstab ?
[00:26] <Kalidarn> yeah
[00:27] <Kalidarn> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo
[00:27] <bng007> Kalidarn: ok, I'll look into my ReadyNAS
[00:27] <Kalidarn> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHFS
[00:28] <Kalidarn> oh yeah if u use sshfs use this instead http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1173714
[00:29] <u19809> hi all/any ... still have problems with my Xorg conf that crashes after an upgrade tokubuntu 10.10... sure could use some help
[00:29] <Kalidarn> bng007: its possible your nas does not do sshfs
[00:29] <Kalidarn> but quite likely will do nfs unless it's a cheapy one that only does samba and has some sort of proprietary os on it
[00:30] <bng007> Kalidarn: you're right, there is just NFS
[00:30] <Kalidarn> yeah use that then your problems should be solved
[00:30] <Kalidarn> and if you ever get a mac it should behave better too
[00:31] <megan> I need a hand if anyone has time. Fresh Kubuntu install, set my headset to prefered device in all, I have sound in Amarok but not in any browsers
[00:31] <bng007> Kalidarn: I think I acces to it using afp on my mac mini
[00:31] <Kalidarn> afp hehe
[00:32] <Kalidarn> do mac mini support anything but afp?
[00:32] <bng007> ? :)
[00:32] <Kalidarn> i was pretty sure afp only worked well with mac desktops :P
[00:32] <Kalidarn> i believe nfs has good support in windows too if u install the unix subsystem
[00:32] <Kalidarn> that microsoft provide
[00:33] <Kalidarn> because it's used in huge enterprise for mounting shares
[00:33] <boogie1> kubuntu exists beacause Ubuntu has gnome?
[00:33] <Kalidarn> what sort of question is that
[00:33] <Kalidarn> kubuntu is ubuntu
[00:34] <Kalidarn> it just comes with kde  and a splash screen for kde
[00:34] <boogie1> yes, but why was kubuntu created, couldn´t just use bofe K and G in Ubuntu?
[00:35] <Kalidarn> i think they wanted to keep the desktop environments seperate so that people would say when using blah
[00:35] <Kalidarn> also when ubuntu first came out in 4.10
[00:35] <Kalidarn> kubuntu did not exist
[00:35] <boogie1> i see.
[00:35] <Kalidarn> its like xubuntu only came out around 5.04
[00:35] <bng007> they should have chosen KDE if you ask us :)
[00:35] <Kalidarn> mmmm
[00:35] <Kalidarn> gnome was better than kde 3 :P
[00:36] <Kalidarn> i thought
[00:36] <Kalidarn> 2.18 is when gnome got good
[00:36] <Kalidarn> and kde 3 still sucked
[00:36] <Kalidarn> but now kde is way better :P
[00:36] <boogie1> so ubuntu, from start used gnome?
[00:36] <Kalidarn> i stopped being a massive gnomefag about 2 weeks ago when i switched back again
[00:36] <Kalidarn> yes boogie1
[00:37] <bng007> lol
[00:37] <Kalidarn> SUSE i believe was using KDE at the start
[00:37] <boogie1> Kalidarn: thnaks
[00:37] <Kalidarn> and switched to gnome
[00:37] <Kalidarn> with slab
[00:37] <Kalidarn> because kde 4.0, 4.1, 4.2 were horrible
[00:37] <Kalidarn> that said least now kde has a nice architecture
[00:37] <bng007> btw there is an interesting article about Qt and ubuntu on Ars
[00:37] <Kalidarn> yeah and Qt i'd say is way nicer than gtk
[00:38] <Kalidarn> especially to program in
[00:38] <Kalidarn> about the only thing i remember hearing was qt libs are a bit bigger when packaging windows apps unless u recompile removing the stuff u dont need
[00:38] <Kalidarn> but its way nicer on osx
[00:38] <boogie1> what is slab and gnomefag?
[00:38] <Kalidarn> gtk on osx is horrible
[00:38] <Kalidarn> slab is a menu
[00:38] <FloodBotK1> Kalidarn: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:39] <bng007> the article http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2010/10/canonical-cto-contemplates-qt-we-think-it-has-a-lot-to-offer-ubuntu.ars
[00:39] <bng007> not that it would mean much to KDE
[00:39] <boogie1> Why doesnt the libre sw community combine kde and gnome and start over?
[00:40] <Kalidarn> because they are completely different codebases
[00:40] <boogie1> wasnt a big problem with Qt, about licences?
[00:40] <boogie1> Kalidarn: oh!!
[00:40] <Kalidarn> nothing is compatible :P
[00:40] <Kalidarn> for that to happen a merge would need to occur and then it would take ages to be stable or usable
[00:40] <boogie1> but the have very a clon of every app and Gtk is equivalent to Qt, as someone say
[00:40] <Kalidarn> longer than when KDE 4 came out :P
[00:41] <Kalidarn> boogie1: yeah it is sad :P but i guess it makes competition
[00:41] <Kalidarn> one tries to be better than the other
[00:41] <boogie1> what a waste of time.
[00:41] <boogie1> but i understando
[00:41] <boogie1> *understand
[00:41] <Kalidarn> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Slab that is slab
[00:41] <boogie1> Kalidarn: thanks!!
[00:42] <boogie1> ill check it
[00:42] <Kalidarn> i think kickoff and systemsettings are nicer
[00:42] <boogie1> Kalidarn: where?
[00:42] <boogie1> by nicer u mean better?
[00:42] <Kalidarn> yeah
[00:42] <Sonic132> Ok...so I have an issue. Anyone available?
[00:42] <Kalidarn> and nicer
[00:42] <Kalidarn> looks better, functions better
[00:42] <boogie1> k.
[00:43] <Kalidarn> systemsettings is exactly like osx's system settings anyway :P
[00:43] <boogie1> Kalidarn: help Sonic132
[00:43] <Kalidarn> good design works well
[00:43] <boogie1> i care more about code than design
[00:43] <Kalidarn> Sonic132: you need to tell us what it is
[00:43] <boogie1> but its imp.
[00:43] <Kalidarn> yah code too
[00:43] <boogie1> sure
[00:43] <Kalidarn> slab isn't all that stable
[00:43] <Kalidarn> as it was third party
[00:43] <boogie1> mm.
[00:43] <Kalidarn> from memory when i tried to use it on a distro other than suse
[00:43] <boogie1> can i ask you a non kubuntu question?
[00:44] <Kalidarn> yeah
[00:44] <Maui> hi all.. is there someone who use kdevelop? i don't know how to configure it for java project
[00:44] <Kalidarn> Maui: would that java project be using swing?
[00:44] <Sonic132> Ok so I tried to install Kubuntu 10.04 LTS on a second hard drive so as to keep Windows and Lin seperated. But it always fails during the formatting ext4 part of the installation. So now XP wont boot. I get no bootloader at all. It just flashes the dos cursor.
[00:44] <Kalidarn> your probably better off using netbeans or eclipse it's what i use for java and j2ee
[00:45] <Sonic132> Kalidarn: There you go.
[00:45] <boogie1> Kalidarn: i dont know much about IT. When you say design we are still talking about code, because all images are generated by code, right?
[00:45] <Kalidarn> hmm, does it quit the installer Sonic132?
[00:45] <Kalidarn> boogie1: yeah something like that
[00:45] <Kalidarn> they're PNG or SVG or XPM images usually
[00:45] <Maui> Kalidarn: no, it's a port of opencv. I only need an 'how to' to import needed libraries
[00:45] <Sonic132> Kalidarn: Yeah...it gives me an unable to format the partion error and quits the setup.
[00:45] <boogie1> Kalidarn: mmm ok thankls
[00:45] <Kalidarn> also human interface guidelines i think for kickoff are more explanitory
[00:46] <boogie1> Kalidarn: k!
[00:46] <boogie1> Kalidarn: like gui?
[00:46] <Kalidarn> Maui: I haven't used that :P
[00:46] <Kalidarn> Sonic132: GPT or MBR?
[00:46] <Kalidarn> oh you'd be using the ubuntu installer hmm
[00:46] <Sonic132> Kalidarn: What? You mean the error?
[00:46] <Maui> Kalidarn: have u never used kdevelop?
[00:47] <Kalidarn> are you installing /boot to a primary partition
[00:47] <Sonic132> Kalidarn: I could try and reproduce the error so I could find out.
[00:47] <Kalidarn> yeah and if it's in the installer switch to the last tty i think it's control alt F12
[00:47] <Kalidarn> or  F11
[00:47] <Kalidarn> it shows you stuff
[00:47] <Sonic132> Kalidarn: YEah...I told it to wipe the entire drive. The seperate drive from the Windows one.
[00:47] <Kalidarn> partition or hard disk?
[00:48] <Kalidarn> Maui: not for java
[00:48] <Sonic132> Karlidarn: Ok...so it's on the Live CD that I'm installing in. So I press Alt+F12 in there?
[00:48] <Kalidarn> control + alt
[00:49] <boogie1> Kalidarn: i see u r awesome at multitasking
[00:50] <Kalidarn> Sonic132: what's the last message in there
[00:50] <Sonic132> Kalidarn: Haven't booted the Live CD completely yet. It's kind of slow.
[00:51] <Kalidarn> actually that might not work on kubuntu you might just have to tail /var.log/messages on say tty1
[00:51] <Kalidarn> did the kubuntu installer actually try to reboot your machine?
[00:51] <Kalidarn> after it was finished
[00:51] <Kalidarn> Sonic132: you might have better luck using the one on the desktop of the livecd
[00:51] <Sonic132> Kalidarn: No...it didn't finish. It failed formatting the ext4 partition.
[00:51] <Kalidarn> for some reason the other one crashes :P
[00:52] <Kalidarn> hmmm that's strange.
[00:52] <Sonic132> Kalidarn: That's how I did it. From the desktop of the LiveCD.
[00:52] <Sonic132> Kalidarn: I wish i could get XP to boot then I could try Wubi instead.
[00:53] <Sonic132> But the bootloader is apparently gone or something cause it wont boot.
[00:54] <Sonic132> Kalidarn: It's freaking slow. So it's finally on the splash screen.
[00:54] <Kalidarn> hmmm
[00:54] <Kalidarn> wasn't all that slow when i used it earlier today :P
[00:54] <Kalidarn> but yeah it is loading everything from the disc
[00:54] <bng007> Kalidarn: in this: "mount -t nfs4 -o proto=tcp,port=2049 nfs-server:/ /mnt"
[00:54] <bng007> Kalidarn: nfs-server should be ip address?
[00:54] <Kalidarn> bng007: i'd assume so i haven't followed that guide
[00:54] <Sonic132> Yeah...I'm thinking it's the computer. But I don't understand it cause we have lots of ram and a dvd/cd writer.
[00:55] <Kalidarn> it looks like it
[00:57] <Sonic132> Ok, going to start the setup again. Then I'll let you know the error when it fails.
[00:58] <Kalidarn> :P X just crashed on me for some weird reason
[00:58] <Kalidarn> [  3037.270] 15: /usr/lib/xorg/extra-modules/nvidia_drv.so (0x7f8758214000+0x3ad411) [0x7f87585c1411]
[00:58] <Kalidarn> [  3037.270] 16: /usr/bin/X (0x400000+0x2c2d9) [0x42c2d9]
[00:58] <Kalidarn> [  3037.270] 17: /usr/bin/X (0x400000+0x2184b) [0x42184b]
[00:58] <Kalidarn> [  3037.270] 18: /lib/libc.so.6 (__libc_start_main+0xfe) [0x7f875c807d8e]
[00:58] <Kalidarn> [  3037.270] 19: /usr/bin/X (0x400000+0x213d9) [0x4213d9]
[00:58] <FloodBotK1> Kalidarn: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:58] <Kalidarn> [  3060.835] [mi] EQ overflowing. The server is probably stuck in an infinite loop.
[00:58] <Kalidarn> aw well probably nvidia bug
[00:59] <bng007> Kalidarn: lol - as simple as this: sudo mount ip:/media /mnt/point
[00:59] <Kalidarn> yeah that will be temporary tho
[00:59] <Kalidarn> u'll need to add it to fstab permentely
[01:01] <bng007> Kalidarn: I know :) and thank you
[01:01] <Kalidarn> also consider this: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/NFS-HOWTO/security.html
[01:01] <Kalidarn> if security is important in your environment
[01:15] <Sonic132> Kalidarn: Got the Error. Title: Failed to create a file system Details: The ext4 file system creation in partition #1 of SCSI7 (0,0,0) (sdg) failed.
[01:16] <Sonic132> Also, it's at 0%
[01:16] <Kalidarn> hmm
[01:17] <Kalidarn> try doing mkfs.ext4 on it
[01:17] <Kalidarn> from a terminal
[01:18] <Sonic132> That's the whole command?
[01:19] <Sonic132> It gave me a syntax listing.
[01:19] <Sonic132> How would I use it in my case?
[01:22] <Kalidarn> mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdg
[01:22] <Kalidarn> and see if it gives u anything else
[01:22] <Kalidarn> anything look wrong in fdisk -l
[01:22] <Kalidarn> maybe cylinder overlaps or something weird windows has done
[01:26] <Sonic132> Kalidarn: after the mkfs. it gave me 'mkfs.ext4: Permission denied while trying to determine filesystem size'
[01:26] <Kalidarn> did you use sudo
[01:26] <Kalidarn> or do it as root
[01:26] <Sonic132> I did it as you typed it.
[01:27] <Sonic132> I'll try it as sudo
[01:27] <Kalidarn> you need to use sudo then the command if it's a user your logged in as ie the $
[01:27] <Kalidarn> as ooposed to the #
[01:27] <blackwood> Hi there - I'm interested in migrating to Kubuntu from my Ubuntu OS. What are the pros and cons?
[01:28] <Sonic132> Yeah...still got an error. '/dev/sdg is apparently in use by the system; will not make a filesystem here!'
[01:28] <Kalidarn> Sonic132: make sure it's unmounted first
[01:28] <Kalidarn> so sudo umount /dev/sdg
[01:28] <Sonic132> Can't you still just install the kde desktop over ubuntu?
[01:28] <Kalidarn> u can install them sideby side
[01:28] <Kalidarn> if you want
[01:29] <Sonic132> 'dev/sdg: not mounted' Sorry I was asking on behalf of blackwood.
[01:29] <blackwood> cool I'll give it a try
[01:30] <Kalidarn> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kde
[01:30] <Sonic132> He left.
[01:30] <Sonic132> But yeah...it says it's not mounted.
[01:30] <Kalidarn> hmm
[01:31] <Kalidarn> that is strange.
[01:31] <Kalidarn> when you do fdisk -l
[01:31] <Kalidarn> see any errors
[01:31] <Sonic132> I'll start the setup (if possible) to get a read on the partition/hd names.
[01:31] <Kalidarn> seems to be some reason it does no want to format
[01:31] <Kalidarn> have any logical paritions?
[01:31] <Kalidarn> did u let the ubuntu installer create them?
[01:31] <Sonic132> It doesn't say anything at all when I type fdisk -l
[01:32] <Sonic132> Yeah...I told the installer to wipe and format the entire drive.
[01:32] <Kalidarn> i usually install linux first
[01:32] <Sonic132> It should have done that automatically.
[01:32] <Kalidarn> and windows second
[01:32] <Kalidarn> because windows is kind of annoying
[01:33] <Kalidarn> with he way it allocates cylinders
[01:33] <Sonic132> That never worked for me. Bootloaders never worked if I installed Windows second.
[01:33] <Kalidarn> yeah u just have to reinstall grub
[01:33] <Kalidarn> but thats easy to do
[01:33] <Kalidarn> its because windows overwrites grub all the time when it finishes installing
[01:33] <Sonic132> Well as it stands now I can't boot Windows. Maybe installing Grub would fix that as well.
[01:33] <Kalidarn> probably :P
[01:34] <Kalidarn> it'd give you a bootloader
[01:34] <Sonic132> But if I got this install to work. It'd do it anyway.
[01:34] <Sonic132> Is fdisk supposed to say something. Cause it doesn't.
[01:35] <Kalidarn> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling%20GRUB%202
[01:35] <Kalidarn> fdisk -l should show partitions
[01:35] <Kalidarn> if not it may be the disk is using GTP
[01:35] <Kalidarn> GPT
[01:35] <Sonic132> GPT?
[01:35] <Kalidarn> a newer replacement to MBR but note windows can't boot off that
[01:35] <Sonic132> Gnome Partion Table?
[01:35] <Kalidarn> no
[01:35] <Kalidarn> GUID Partition Table
[01:35] <Kalidarn> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table
[01:36] <Kalidarn> it's a replacement to MBR that windows uses for computers with EFI, and apple use it too
[01:36] <Sonic132> How'd that get on there?
[01:36] <Kalidarn> it might not be :P
[01:36] <Kalidarn> unless your on a mac :P
[01:36] <Sonic132> It was working until I tried to format a harddrive for linux.
[01:36] <Kalidarn> windows won't format a disk with it
[01:36] <Kalidarn> by default in the installer
[01:36] <Kalidarn> it will however if it's say a second disk in your computer
[01:36] <Kalidarn> ie sdb
[01:37] <Kalidarn> fdisk -l will tell you if it is GPT
[01:37] <Kalidarn> it'll say something like
[01:37] <Kalidarn> WARNING: GPT (GUID Partition Table) detected on '/dev/sda'! The util fdisk doesn't support GPT. Use GNU Parted.
[01:37] <Kalidarn> and hence fdisk -l does not show partitions
[01:37] <Sonic132> Well when my MyBook drive isn't connected the drive I'm trying to format is called sdb.
[01:37] <Kalidarn> oh sure because its the second disk on your computer
[01:38] <Sonic132> I'm not using the same harddrive as Windows.
[01:38] <Kalidarn> i meant a second disk on an ata channel
[01:38] <Sonic132> Ah...if I remember correctly they are all on seperate SATA channels.
[01:39] <Kalidarn> well by that i mean actually physically using sata (doesn't matter if its master or slave)
[01:40] <Sonic132> Hmm...so what's the prognosis doc?
[01:40] <Kalidarn> i would just in the installer for ubuntu
[01:40] <Kalidarn> install ubuntu say to root
[01:40] <Kalidarn> and make a swap partition and a boot one
[01:40] <Kalidarn> and then make another primary one for windows
[01:40] <Sonic132> So redo Windows all over again?
[01:41] <Kalidarn> you might have to
[01:41] <Kalidarn> do it second
[01:41] <Kalidarn> after the partitions are created (and don't obviously delete them in the windows installer)
[01:41] <Sonic132> We just got it to where we want it. Everythings updated to the newest versions. I don't really want to have to do that.
[01:42] <Kalidarn> oh :P
[01:42] <Sonic132> We have a very limited amount of downloading we can do per month. So we'd have to redownload everything again.
[01:42] <Kalidarn> hmm
[01:43] <Kalidarn> so do you get an error when typing sudo fdisk -l?
[01:43] <Kalidarn> what do you mean by 'it doesn't show anything'
[01:44] <Sonic132> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ fdisk -l
[01:44] <Sonic132> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[01:44] <Kalidarn> sudo
[01:44] <Sonic132> That's what I mean. It outputs nothing.
[01:44] <Kalidarn> fdisk requires superuser
[01:44] <Sonic132> Ahhh...ok
[01:45] <Kalidarn> you need to either sudo su
[01:45] <Kalidarn> and then type
[01:45] <Kalidarn> # fdisk -l
[01:45] <Kalidarn> or
[01:45] <FloodBotK1> Kalidarn: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:45] <Kalidarn> $ sudo fdisk -l
[01:45] <Kalidarn> (not actually typing the # or $ it represents root and user respectively)
[01:45] <Sonic132> Ok got it to output something now. What am I looking for?
[01:45] <Kalidarn> paste it in a pastebin
[01:46] <Kalidarn> like above
[01:46] <Sonic132> I can try to type it in there. But the computer that is having the problems obviously doesn't have internet.
[01:46] <Kalidarn> oh :P no network hmm
[01:46] <Kalidarn> can you plug a usb stick in
[01:46] <Kalidarn> and mount it
[01:46] <Kalidarn> then do fdisk -l > file.txt
[01:47] <Sonic132> No. I have a Cricket USB modem connection. Don't know how to get it to connect in Linux.
[01:47] <Kalidarn> i mean a USB memory stick
[01:47] <Kalidarn> so i can see what the exact output is
[01:47] <Kalidarn> ie
[01:47] <Kalidarn> cd /mnt
[01:47] <Sonic132> I will go get a flash drive. Brb
[01:48] <Kalidarn> mkdir -p /mnt/usb
[01:48] <Kalidarn> mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/usb
[01:48] <Kalidarn> fdisk -l > /mnt/usb/file.txt
[01:48] <Kalidarn> umount /dev/sdb1
[01:49] <Kalidarn> (it might be sdc depending on how many disks are in that computer
[01:49] <Sonic132> Doesn't it automount it?
[01:49] <Kalidarn> it might
[01:49] <Kalidarn> im not sure if it does in the installer
[01:49] <Sonic132> It detected it and is showing the contents.
[01:49] <Kalidarn> it probably will :P then
[01:49] <Sonic132> Ok...skip a step awesome.
[01:50] <Kalidarn> so then just fdisk -l > /media/usbsticklabel/file.txt
[01:50] <Kalidarn> may need to click on it in the device notifier
[01:50] <Kalidarn> so that a dolphin window comes up viewing the contents (that will mount it)
[01:52] <Sonic132> Ok that worked.
[01:52] <Sonic132> Does this work: http://paste.ubuntu.com/519001/  ?
[01:53] <Kalidarn> there appears to be 4 disks in this computer?
[01:54] <Kalidarn> it should not look like this
[01:54] <Kalidarn> if those are partitions
[01:54] <Sonic132> Hmmm...I believe one hd has two partitions. From what my dad said. Windows insisted on making a 16MB second partition for no reason.
[01:54] <Kalidarn> sdi i assume is your usb stick
[01:55] <Sonic132> Then there is a second. Then a mybook external hd.
[01:55] <Sonic132> I suppose
[01:55] <Kalidarn> ah okay that's better
[01:55] <Kalidarn> well then there's just 2 disks
[01:56] <Sonic132> I could unplug the MyBook drive if itd make it simpler.
[01:56] <Kalidarn> it wont change anything :P
[01:56] <Sonic132> Ok
[01:56] <Kalidarn> you're obviously going to need to resize here
[01:57] <Kalidarn> which one is the one you want to put linux on /dev/sdf or /dev/sde
[01:57] <Sonic132> Well the setup doesn't do that.
[01:57] <Kalidarn> hmm
[01:57] <Kalidarn> where is sda sdb sdc and sdc
[01:58] <Sonic132> Not sure. It shows sdf1, sde1, and sdh1
[01:59] <Kalidarn> i assume sde is the one with windows on it?
[01:59] <Kalidarn> why can't you reformat sdf
[01:59] <Kalidarn> and let it repartition
[01:59] <Kalidarn> ie guided full disk
[02:00] <Kalidarn> perhaps you can sudo apt-get install gparted and then create your partitions how you like in that
[02:01] <Sonic132> Maybe...thought apt-get install was off the internet.
[02:01] <Kalidarn> oh :P
[02:01] <Kalidarn> lol i forget :P
[02:01] <Kalidarn> because i usally have internet in the installer
[02:01] <Kalidarn> it should be on the cdrom
[02:01] <Sonic132> TRying to get back to the partitioning part of the setup. So I can hopefully find some answers.
[02:02] <Kalidarn> you'd need to uncoment  in /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:02] <Kalidarn> # deb cdrom:[Kubuntu 10.10 _Maverick Meerkat_ - Release amd64 (20101008)]/ maverick main restricted
[02:02] <Kalidarn> # deb cdrom:[Kubuntu 10.10 _Maverick Meerkat_ - Release amd64 (20101008)]/ maverick main restricted
[02:02] <FloodBotK1> Kalidarn: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:02] <Kalidarn> (oops only one of them)
[02:03] <Sonic132> gedit isn't a command anymore?
[02:03] <Kalidarn> it is a gtk editor
[02:03] <Kalidarn> you want kate in KDE
[02:03] <Sonic132> oh ok
[02:03] <Kalidarn> gedit is part of gnome
[02:04] <Sonic132> Also, I'm using 10.04 not 10.10. But I doubt it matters.
[02:04] <Kalidarn> you have a most peculiar partition scheme there
[02:04] <Kalidarn> yeah it shouldn't matter much
[02:05] <Kalidarn> (you should always backup important data before resizing too btw)
[02:05] <Sonic132> main restricted is apparently by default uncommented.
[02:05] <Kalidarn> i mean the source that has
[02:06] <Kalidarn> cdrom:[Kubuntu 10.10 _Maverick Meerkat_ - Release amd64 (20101008)]/
[02:06] <Kalidarn> or 10.04 Lucid Lynx
[02:06] <Kalidarn> at the top
[02:06] <Kalidarn> with the cdrom: in front of it
[02:06] <KimLaRoux> Good evening all
[02:06] <Sonic132> Well I didn't realize that messing with a partition on a completely seperate hd was going to break the windows bootloader.
[02:06] <Kalidarn> it obviously tried to install grub and something went wrong there dev/sda sdb and sdc are missing for some strange reason
[02:07] <Kalidarn> if you uncomment the cdrom: entry in sources.list
[02:07] <Kalidarn> then do apt-get update it should fetch from the cdrom
[02:07] <Sonic132> I still don't see that particular source.
[02:07] <Kalidarn> you should then be able to install gparted
[02:08] <Sonic132> The first uncommented entry is the CDROM source.
[02:08] <Sonic132> lucid main restricted
[02:08] <Kalidarn> yeah then just apt-get update
[02:08] <Kalidarn> then apt-get install gparted
[02:08] <Sonic132> Ok
[02:08] <Kalidarn> should fetch it off the disc
[02:10] <Sonic132> Wont do it. Gave me a ton of output. How do I save it on my flashdrive?
[02:10] <Sonic132> Or do you want it?
[02:10] <Kalidarn> 404s?
[02:10] <Sonic132> YEah...pretty much. A lot of 'Could not resolves'
[02:12] <Kalidarn> i'd recommend letting the ubuntu installer partition the complete disk
[02:12] <Kalidarn> and then installing windows
[02:12] <Kalidarn> then installing grub
[02:12] <KimLaRoux> Hello all, I am wondering about something and thought someone here might have the information or experience to lightens me
[02:12] <Kalidarn> or installing windows (which version is it btw your trying to install?)
[02:12] <Kalidarn> i think something has gone wrong there with the partition table from my experience not even windows does that
[02:12] <Sonic132> Windows XP and Kubuntu 10.04 LTS.
[02:13] <Sonic132> Just got XP to SP3 and all the drivers are brand new.
[02:13] <KimLaRoux> I'm running out of disk space so I have to change my HD, but I don't want to reinstall everything, is there an easy way to like, backup all the settings and installed applications?
[02:14] <Kalidarn> KimLaRoux: something like this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35087
[02:15] <Kalidarn> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem
[02:15] <Kalidarn> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem/TAR
[02:15] <Kalidarn> the second one is on the wiki
[02:17] <Kalidarn> Sonic132: infact here i installed windows first, xp sp3 then ubuntu 10.04 on my old laptop
[02:17] <Kalidarn> so i know it works :P
[02:17] <Kalidarn> maybe do a media check?
[02:17] <Sonic132> media check?
[02:17] <Kalidarn> from the menu to check the cd burnt correctly
[02:18] <Sonic132> Ah...well it's a bought CD from the website. So hopefully it did.
[02:19] <Sonic132> Ok looking at the 'Prepare Partitions' portion of the setup.
[02:20] <Kalidarn> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/519014
[02:20] <Kalidarn> that's what it should look like
[02:20] <KimLaRoux> Thanks Kalidarn, this is exactly what I had in mind!
[02:20] <Kalidarn> Sonic132: as you can see windows was installed on sda1
[02:20] <Kalidarn> as a Primary partition
[02:20] <Kalidarn> then Linux on sda2
[02:20] <Kalidarn> and linux swap
[02:22] <Sonic132> YEah all neat and orderly. Not sure what happened to ours. It's all out of wack.
[02:22] <Sonic132> Also, you have it all on one harddrive
[02:23] <Sonic132> It just doesn't want to be split up from Windows? It wants to make a new friend or something?
[02:23] <Sonic132> Hey! I got an idea. I could boot up as much as I can onto this machine with a flash drive?
[02:24] <Kalidarn> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/519015
[02:24] <Sonic132> From the failed Windows Ubuntu machine.
[02:24] <Kalidarn> its like something tried to resize
[02:24] <Sonic132> I thought you could already share files. Also, I thought Linux did not like NTFS.
[02:24] <Kalidarn> but it didn't work :)
[02:25] <Kalidarn> linux can read and write to NTFS
[02:25] <Kalidarn> not as fast as other filesystems  but with NTFS-3G it works just fine
[02:25] <Kalidarn> and you may  need to defragment it every now and again :P
[02:25] <Sonic132> Ok...well I'm going to see if I can backup some stuff from Windows. And then I can start over with Ubuntu.
[02:26] <Sonic132> erm Kubuntu, same difference.
[02:26] <Kalidarn> don't create lots of partitions in windows's installer
[02:26] <Kalidarn> it can make things go wrong usually if i install windows first i just make 'one' partition
[02:26] <Sonic132> Didn't you suggest to install Windows second?
[02:26] <Kalidarn> for windows to install itself on
[02:26] <Kalidarn> then i do the rest in ubuntu
[02:26] <Kalidarn> it doesn't really matter
[02:26] <Kalidarn> windows by default will put itself on a primary partition
[02:26] <Sonic132> Which is easier to screw up? I want to do the other option.
[02:27] <Kalidarn> probably installing linux second is best because then you don't have to reinstall grub
[02:27] <Kalidarn> windows always installs NTDLR (it's bootloader) you don't get a choice :P
[02:27] <Kalidarn> so if grub is there
[02:27] <Sonic132> Ok...sounds good.
[02:27] <Kalidarn> it wipes it :P
[02:28] <Kalidarn> Sonic132: i suggest you make one partition for C:
[02:28] <Sonic132> Yeah...I remember that.
[02:28] <Kalidarn> and then when you get to ubuntu
[02:28] <Kalidarn> do the rest
[02:28] <Kalidarn> i usually make 3 primary partitions, one for C:
[02:28] <Kalidarn> one for /boot
[02:28] <Kalidarn> and one for /
[02:28] <Sonic132> Ok so one partition on C for Windows and two partitions on D: for Kubuntu?
[02:29] <Kalidarn> then i create a logical partition (which contains the swap for windows and the swap for linux, and then the spare data)
[02:29] <Sonic132> Ok 3 on D:
[02:29] <Kalidarn> yeah but only create the 1 C: in windows
[02:29] <Kalidarn> i might just check to see windows starts at sector 1
[02:30] <Sonic132> Ok how do I find the Windows Partition in Ubuntu? I'm having a little trouble finding it to copy files out.
[02:30] <Sonic132> Nevermind got it.
[02:31] <Kalidarn> also i think in windows and i can't remember if it's only windows 7 and vista
[02:31] <Kalidarn> it gives you an option to start at the beginning of the disk
[02:31] <Kalidarn> this is what i like to do :P
[02:32] <Kalidarn> Sonic132: you can actually create the partitions before you get into windows while your still in the livecd if you wish
[02:32] <Kalidarn> ubuntu gives you much more control
[02:32] <Kalidarn> i suspect what happend in your case is some shrinking tried to occur and something went wrong
[02:33] <Kalidarn> shrinking is fraught with danger
[02:33] <Kalidarn>  also it might be an idea to unplug the other disks you don't want to format so you don't format them accidentally
[02:34] <Kalidarn> also by default the bootloader will go on the first disk picked up by your BIOS
[02:34] <Kalidarn> least that's what i'm pretty sure the ubuntu installer does
[02:34] <Sonic132> Ok...but I can't do much without a partitioner Kalidarn.
[02:34] <Kalidarn> oh yeah parted is there but it's  commandline so yeah
[02:35] <Sonic132> Oh yay! Command line
[02:36] <Kalidarn> an easier option might be to use http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[02:36] <Sonic132> Ok I think I got what I can get from Windows backed up to the External HD.
[02:36] <Kalidarn> it's a livecd that loads up gparted that lets you partition it exactly how you like
[02:36] <James147> Sonic132: you can install gparted or partitionmanager on the livecd for a gui partition program, or use parted or fdisk
[02:36] <Kalidarn> it's on;y small less than 50MB
[02:36] <Kalidarn> James147: except he's got a USB modem and no internet connection on that machine
[02:36] <Sonic132> I could put it on a flash drive and run it in linux?
[02:37] <sh1ft3d> yes
[02:37] <sh1ft3d> live cds
[02:37] <James147> Kalidarn: ^^ you can just install gparted or partition manager in the kubuntu/ubuntu live cd... that involves less burning of disks :)
[02:37] <sh1ft3d> but your mobo has to support usb booting
[02:37] <Kalidarn> ah k :P for some reason it wasn't picking it up off the disc
[02:37] <James147> :S no internet could be a problem though
[02:38] <Sonic132> James...how? WE already tried to do just that.
[02:38] <James147> although I am fairly sure gparted use to be on the disk ... not sure if it is anymore
[02:38] <Sonic132> Unless I could get the Cricket modem to work somehow?
[02:38] <Kalidarn> never used one of those :P
[02:38] <Kalidarn> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-setup-cricket-wireless-a600-broadband-modem-in-ubuntu.html that might be a hint though
[02:39] <Kalidarn> i don't use wireless broadband
[02:39] <Sonic132> I don't think I have the a600. I got the Calcomp or Cal-comp usb modem.
[02:39] <Sonic132> Unless they're the same.
[02:39] <Kalidarn> and the carriers here seem to have the huawei ones
[02:40] <Kalidarn> note that is from may 2009 :P
[02:41] <Kalidarn> i need to go to bed :P
[02:42] <Sonic132> Hah...well hopefully I'll set up the computer right. So I don't have to do another reinstall.
[02:43] <Kalidarn> yeah i'd say a resize tried to occur and it went wrong making some partitions disappear because from that fdisk there seems to be no /dev/sda, sdb or sdc http://paste.ubuntu.com/519001/
[02:44] <Sonic132> Yeah...it's weird.
[02:44] <Kalidarn> gparted is a nice livecd very easy to use for fiddling with strange partition tables
[02:44] <Kalidarn> especially when you has no internet in ubuntu
[02:45] <Sonic132> Ok. But I'd still have to reinstall Windows no?
[02:45] <Kalidarn> yeah
[02:45] <Kalidarn> but you can make the partition table how you want it
[02:45] <Sonic132> Then what's the point?
[02:45] <Sonic132> Ah ok.
[02:45] <Kalidarn> and make sure it's in nice consecutive order
[02:45] <Kalidarn> and then just format it not actually make partition table
[02:45] <Kalidarn> can ensure that nothing strange happens
[02:46] <Kalidarn> its either that or you install linux (using ubuntu's installer and then install windows afterwards)
[02:46] <Kalidarn> and then you'd have to install grub anyway
[02:47] <Kalidarn> gparted-live-0.6.4-1.iso it's 122MB
[02:47] <Kalidarn> for the CD image
[02:48] <Kalidarn> http://sourceforge.net/projects/gparted/files/gparted-live-stable/
[02:48] <Sonic132> Ah ok. I was looking for it.
[02:51] <Sonic132> Ok...going to be about a 2 hour download more or less. So I guess some TV is called for.
[02:52] <Kalidarn> Sonic132: you must have slow internets :)
[02:52] <Sonic132> That's Cricket 'Broadband' for you.
[02:52] <Sonic132> They fail hard.
[02:53] <Kalidarn> where on earth do you live
[02:53] <Kalidarn> i thought where i lived had sucky internet
[02:53] <Sonic132> Out in the country. A little town called Mathis, TX. Population of (I think) 5 thousand.
[02:53] <Kalidarn> ah
[02:53] <mycide> having trouble with kubuntu 10.10 getting drivers for Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 03) installed...anyone who can help please pm
[02:54] <Kalidarn> mycide: looked at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[02:55] <Kalidarn> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#Installing%20BCM43xx%20drivers that part
[02:56] <mycide> i will, thank you....last docs i read said to install fwcutter, but that did not seem effective
[03:03] <bng007> hi Kalidarn, can I bother you?
[03:03] <Kalidarn> yah im still here
[03:04] <bng007> great, I got my NFS share mounted using fstab, it is in /mnt/media, but it is read-only
[03:05] <bng007> do I need to change fstab options or the direcotry permisions maybe?
[03:10] <bng007> i just learned - the folder is owned by different user number than is mine - how is that possible?
[03:21] <bng007> it is strange - when unmounted, the folder has my ownership (after I set it), but after "sudo mount -all" it changes its ownership to the other user
[03:42] <gorgonzola> hello. anyone knows how can i debug kde sessions? i.e., mine is not starting, it hangs right after the third icon in the login box
[03:43] <Guest76750> gorgonzola
[03:43] <Guest76750> trade me some cheese bread
[03:43] <Guest76750> ill let u know how
[03:44] <gorgonzola> dude, i'm not in the mood for jokes. do you know if there's any logs outside of kdm.log or not?
[03:45] <e__> yup
[03:45] <e__> there are
[03:45] <e__> now hand over the bread
[03:45] <gorgonzola> ok, here, bread.
[03:45] <e__> before i pump you fulla led
[03:45] <e__> is it gorgonzola cheesey bread? or just , bread?
[03:47] <Sonic132> Going to try and get as much internet bandwith as possible. So I'm going to get off of IRC for a bit. Be back later y'all
[03:49] <an1> clear
[03:58] <dorkface> Hi all.  If I wanted to statically map an IP to a name, would that go into resolv.conf?
[04:13] <DarkriftX> does anyone know of a guide to get broadcom bcm4306 drivers working on kubuntu 10.10? all the results i get from google are from 2005-2007 and i doubt they are still valid
[04:47] <moetunes> !broadcom
[05:00] <DarkriftX> lol
[05:00] <DarkriftX> not a good name to join irc with
[05:00] <DarkriftX> especially on a linux channel
[07:12] <epoxy> hello.. does anyone else sometimes experience a huge lag when browsing system directories within KDE
[07:13] <epoxy> not all the time.. just lots of the time. I've been experiencing this for years on all my boxes
[07:17] <epoxy> drives me nuts
[09:55] <akillex_> x
[09:55] <akillex_> x
[09:55] <akillex_> x
[09:56] <FloodBotK1> akillex_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:58] <naftilos76> hi everyone. has DVD-RW automount function been in 10.10 or not? any experience on that?
[10:02] <naftilos76> has DVD-RW automount function been restored in 10.10 or not? any experience on that?
[10:12] <polis> ciao
[10:13] <rua> i wanna watch film on ubuntu but avi formats don't open
[10:14] <rua> do u recommend a program to watch avi ?
[10:14] <rua> vlc player is freezing
[10:17] <polis> try (hd 0,0): ntfs: no ang0 on boot kubunt
[10:18] <polis> non i 'm live kubuntu
[10:24] <DarkriftX> anyone around that can tell me how to connect to an access point from command line?
[10:24] <DarkriftX> ive set the essid with iwconfig but its not connected
[10:48] <polis> hi
[10:48] <polis> i have error on boot kubuntu
[10:48] <polis> try (hd 0,0): ntfs: no ang0
[10:49] <polis> now i m kubuntu live
[11:06] <gnuton> Hi there
[11:06] <gnuton> is anyone able to generate a gpg key in *ubuntu?
[11:07] <Unksi> yeah.. kgpg is a graphical frontend for easy key management
[11:07] <Unksi> has been working well for me
[11:08] <gnuton> Unksi: same problem with kgpg
[11:08] <gnuton> Unksi: it was working for me as well.. but only with old ubuntu versions
[11:08] <Unksi> hmm
[11:09] <gnuton> Unksi: I've been able to genereate a gpg key just increasing the linux entropy
[11:10] <gnuton> anyway now that I've a new gpg key.. I'm not able to decrypt encrypted messages
[11:11] <gnuton> even with kgpg
[11:11] <Unksi> hmm, i remember having this kind of problem as well
[11:12] <gnuton> I think something is messed up in 10.10
[11:12] <Unksi> there was something that i got to work around it, though i have forgotten what i did
[11:12] <gnuton> :(
[11:12] <Unksi> might have been just by using the cli version of gpg
[11:12] <gnuton> I spent the entire morning to investigate on this.. I tried on 2 machines.. same problem
[11:13] <gnuton> Unksi: I used the cli version too..
[11:13] <Unksi> hmm ok
[11:13] <Unksi> hmm, from the date, it seems that i have created this key i have with lucid, not maverick
[11:14] <gnuton> if I try to decrypt an enc message it ask for the passphrase and after it hangs
[12:23] <haloula> hi
[12:31] <osm> hi guys
[12:34] <jarle> I can't seem to get any Adobe AIR programs to open URLs in a browser after upgrading to 10.10?
[13:00] <dennda> What is the difference between the CD and the DVD? http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download -- Does the latter just come with more packages by default that would otherwise be downloaded via the net anyways?
[13:00] <colorsoundboy> help sudo is not working :|
[13:01] <colorsoundboy> but I have a root account, but do not know howto enable sudo
[13:02] <colorsoundboy> it seems it is gone my sudo which i need ofcourse for enable and sharing  files
[13:12] <mah454_> Hello ... !
[13:13] <mah454_> where is yahoo room list in kopete ?
[13:30] <skafti> does someone know how to play games in kubuntu ? just installed one game and do not find it anywhere
[13:33] <TopGear> Hi
[13:34] <TopGear> I want to connect to my pc, through my ipod touch with vnc, but kubuntu denies it, because my ipod is not invited....
[14:02] <Patricia> http://uploaddeimagens.com.br/imagem/ver/patriciadesktop4.png
[14:02] <Patricia> which the package responsible for having these effects
[14:02] <Patricia> the effects are working, but not in the list shows there
[14:28] <Walzmyn> (running 10.04) For a long time now, I've not gotten notification in my systray when I have updates. I think, sometime back I turned this off because of a bug. How can I get it turned back on?
[14:31] <lieuwe> hey, NetworkManager has decided to kill itself, so now my internet doesn't work, i can't start NetworkManager because it's already running, and i can't kill it because it isn't running, any ideas on wtf i could do to solve this?
[14:32] <Walzmyn> lieuwe: you tried rebooting?
[14:32] <lieuwe> Walzmyn: yes
[14:32] <lieuwe> Walzmyn: the network icon tells me that the connection is not managed
[14:33] <Walzmyn> I had issues with that thing while back. I forget what I did to get it fixed
[14:33] <Walzmyn> you wireless?
[14:33] <lieuwe> nope
[14:34] <lieuwe> hardwired straight into ze intertnetz
[14:34] <Walzmyn> emm, sorry man. Wish I could give you sagely advice
[14:34] <lieuwe> FFFUUUU
[14:34] <lieuwe> Walzmyn: thanks anyways
[14:34] <lieuwe> anyone else any idea on how to fix my internet connection?
[14:34] <Walzmyn> yeah, lightening kept killing my routers, so I just got a long cable
[14:35] <lieuwe> Walzmyn: :P
[14:35] <lieuwe> Walzmyn: just add a splitter before your router, those are like $3 and fry sooner than yer router :P
[14:35]  * Walzmyn nods
[14:36] <BluesKaj> howdy
[14:37] <lieuwe> Walzmyn: rofl, people suggesting that i should apt-get wicd-deamon XD
[14:37] <Walzmyn> yeah, I hear alot of folks saying that's better. Don't ask me, I don't understand
[14:37] <Walzmyn> hia, BluesKaj
[14:38] <BluesKaj> hi Walzmyn
[14:38] <lieuwe> Walzmyn: the problem is that my internet doesnt work, so itsabit of a silly sugestion
[14:39] <Walzmyn> emm
[14:40] <lieuwe> hm, another solution thats retarded enough that it might just work,
[14:40] <BluesKaj> lieuwe, how are you trying to connect , wifi  or ethernet?
[14:41] <Walzmyn> (running 10.04) For a long time now, I've not gotten notification in my systray when I have updates. I think, sometime back I turned this off because of a bug. How can I get it turned back on?
[14:44] <BluesKaj> Walzmyn, I think it's notifications in add widgets
[14:44] <Walzmyn> I've got the notification's gizmo up and running, but it dosen't tell me about updates
[14:45] <Walzmyn> BluesKaj: i've looked though the notification settings and kpackagekit and system settings but not found anytyhing that will turn it back on
[14:45] <James147> Walzmyn: check in kpackagekit > settings > edit software sources...
[14:46] <BluesKaj> Walzmyn, for what it's worth I just run aptitude update whenever I log on
[14:46] <Walzmyn> BluesKaj: I just do it from CLI
[14:47] <Walzmyn> James147: what am I looking for?
[14:48] <James147> Walzmyn: on the updates tab, see if its checking for updates and how often
[14:48] <Walzmyn> James147: it's set to check daily and notify on updates
[14:51] <BluesKaj> Walzmyn, make sure the third party sources and canonical partners are enabled in other software
[14:52] <Walzmyn> BluesKaj: yes it is
[14:52] <James147> Walzmyn: and you can get updates manually?
[14:52] <Walzmyn> oh yeah, I run apt-get from terminal. I just don't remember to do it but once a week or so
[14:55] <James147> Walzmyn: try this: https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/automatic-updates.html
[14:56] <Walzmyn> thanks, James147, looking
[15:01] <kynarion> hi
[15:03] <kynarion> is there a repository with more recent latex-sty files than those that are included in the standard rep?
[15:05] <kynarion> i really need the new siunitx package, but I can't install it, because there are too many unresolved/broken dependencies
[15:32] <sobczyk> hi, is there any good program for flowcharts except DIA?
[15:49] <trendsetter37> why doesn't the cat command work for video files
[15:49] <James147> trendsetter37: why should it?...
[15:49] <James147> trendsetter37: cat only print plain text files, not binary
[15:49] <trendsetter37> when i try to combine two part video files it gets the size right but it's always just the first half of the file when i try to watch it
[15:50] <trendsetter37> is there anything for vid files i remember it doing it right once but thats it
[15:53] <elijah> The KDE Desktop Sharing window keeps presenting itself on reboot, everytime, how can I make it stop doing that?
[15:53] <trendsetter37> is there a command that can combine 2 part vid files then?
[15:54] <James147> trendsetter37: yo will need to decode then combine then reencode them..
[15:54] <James147> trendsetter37: not sure how to do it on command line, but kdenlive can do it
[15:56] <trendsetter37> ahh ok that makes sense lol
[15:58] <LogicallyDashing> My control center is giving paradoxical information about desktop effects. I suspect there's a corrupt configuration file somewhere. What's the configuration file for desktop effects?
[16:00] <James147> LogicallyDashing: I think its in kwins config at ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc
[16:00] <LogicallyDashing> thanks James147
[16:04] <trendsetter37> appreciate it james
[16:08] <elijah> Figured out my Desktop Sharing issue.
[16:30] <Cleveland112> Hello
[16:43] <trendsetter37> when i tried to decode a .avi file using uudecode in the terminal the error i received was no 'begin' line?
[16:45] <htrejh>  /connect irc.gamesurge.net
[17:02] <spawn57_> hi, does kubuntu have a kde module for cmake?
[17:23] <drbobb> hey is there some sort of shoutcast plugin or sych for amarok?
[17:23] <drbobb> s/sych/such/
[17:24] <drbobb> I'd swear there used to be one in the past, but maybe I'm dreaming?
[18:00] <shiri> @search Towers of Midnight
[18:05] <gervais> hi
[18:06] <gervais> wie geht's
[18:22] <dark3lf> Hello, how can I run X without kde ?
[18:25] <drbobb> install gnome
[18:25] <drbobb> or lxde
[18:25] <drbobb> or just some window manager
[18:27] <dark3lf> drbobb, I want kde stop running on top of X
[18:28] <drbobb> dark3lf: I don't parse that
[18:54] <gregt> lo
[19:39] <bez> hi all
[19:39] <bez> got a slight problem, could do with a hand
[19:39] <James147> !ask | bez
[19:39] <bez> sorry, its been a while off IRC for me :-)
[19:40] <bez> i lost the transparent desktop window widget from my desktop. Ive readded it using the file view widget, but now its not a window, its a giant giant desktop icon?!?
[19:41] <bez> any ideas how to fix it?
[19:42] <James147> bez: you mean the folder view widget?
[19:42] <bez> yup
[19:42] <James147> bez: what happens if you remove and re add it? same thing?
[19:43] <bez> yup
[19:43] <bez> ive been on gnome for a while, but i like KDE more
[19:43] <bez> and i dont know how to fix it
[19:43] <James147> bez: hmm, could you test a new user and see if they have the same problem
[19:43] <bez> I can try it
[19:44] <bez> brb
[19:50] <bez> back
[19:50] <bez> created new user, their widget is fine
[19:50] <bez> so its something with mine
[19:51] <James147> bez: plasma applet config files are at ~/.kde/share/config/plasma-appletrc   you could try editing that (or renaming/removing it to reset plasma)
[19:52] <bez> ill try that, need to restart x after?
[19:52] <James147> bez: nop, just need to restart plasma-desktop
[19:52] <James147> (killall plasma-desktop && wait 2 && plasma-desktop)
[19:52] <James147> s/wait 2/sleep 2
[20:03] <bez> hi again james
[20:04] <bez> doesnt seem to want to play ball still
[20:05] <bez> was it just the one file (plasma-appletsrc) or the whole config file?
[20:06] <bez> config folder sorry
[20:07] <nobarking> why can't i get Auto Spell Check enabled by default in Quassel?
[20:08] <James147> bez: you shouldent need to delete the whole config folder, but renaming/moving/deleting anything taht begins with plasma mioght work
[20:09] <bez> ok, ill have another bash
[20:09] <bez> sorry for being a pain
[20:10] <James147> nobarking: settings > configer quassel > input widget > endable spell checking?
[20:10] <nobarking> James147: aha, there it is! Thank you
[20:16] <bez> james: Genius! Thanks mate. the file i was looking for was "plasma-desktop-appletsrc"
[20:16] <bez> james147: incase it comes up again
[20:16] <James147> bez: ahh yeah :) keep forgetting its name
[20:16] <bez> james147: thanks for your help
[20:17] <James147> (plasma-appletsrc was the old name)
[20:17] <James147> it should be safe to remove that one now as it shouldnt be used anymore
[20:18] <bez> awesome. thanks again
[20:18] <bez> im off to explore my new kde :-)
[20:18] <bez> see you around some time
[20:22] <Eniak> buenas tardes, les hago una consulta
[20:22] <Eniak> cada vez que copio archivos o carpetas
[20:22] <Eniak> desde el escritorio de kubuntu
[20:22] <Eniak> hacia una particion ntfs
[20:22] <Eniak> me salta una cuadro de dialogo informandome
[20:23] <Eniak> "no se pudieron cambiar los permisos de <archivo>"
[20:23] <Eniak> ya estube tocando el fstab
[20:23] <jhunold> !es | Eniak
[20:23] <Eniak> pero no consigo hacer que me deje cambiar estos permisos
[20:23] <Eniak> roger thtat
[20:24] <Eniak> look, everytime i try to move files or folders from kubuntu to any ntfs partition
[20:24] <WaltzingAlong> !ntfs
[20:24] <Eniak> i get this error " could not change permissions of <archive> or <folder>
[20:25] <Eniak> i got ntfs-3g installed
[20:28] <RadSurfer> Can someone please tell me how to REMOVE 'printer applet' and 'bluetooth applet' from da system tray, since I never use them.
[20:28] <RadSurfer> I want to prevent them from loading at boot.
[20:28] <RadSurfer> Surely there's a way to accomplish that.
[20:32] <WaltzingAlong> RadSurfer: could also ask in #kde
[20:32] <WaltzingAlong> RadSurfer: get rid of package kbluetooth
[20:32] <WaltzingAlong> ?
[20:39] <igor> оро
[20:41] <kaktyc> =)
[21:10] <linux__> !list
[21:26] <espadan7> Hello everyone, when I installed Vmware player on Kubunbu 10.10, it has to recompile the kernl everytime it starts, but it didn't do this on 10.04, is there a way to make it stop?
[21:28] <WaltzingAlong> espadan7: virtualbox? dkms?
[21:29] <espadan7> WaltzingAlong I forgot to install kdms
[21:39] <friese> hi
[21:39] <friese> its the first time i try kubuntu, before that i used opensuse. wich kernel is standard on kubuntu 10.10
[21:39] <friese> and they say about a dvd version that has more languages than the cd version.
[21:40] <friese> does the cd-version have german language?
[21:45] <friese> nobody can answer my questions?
[21:50] <cba123> My "Open File" dialog in Chrome isn't showing any files.  It lists my drives, but not my Home or Desktop folders.  It did a minute ago, but not anymore.  Any ideas?
[21:51] <James147> friese: 10.10 comes with kernel 2.6.35
[22:08] <erdemeser> hi every one,
[22:08] <erdemeser> what is the purpose of this environment,
[22:08] <erdemeser> Is it for general use,
[22:08] <erdemeser> or is it dedicated on somethink like Kubuntu developers.
[22:08] <erdemeser> ???
[22:09] <James147> erdemeser: this is the kubuntu support channel
[22:09] <erdemeser> Thanks James...
[22:09] <James147> erdemeser: general chat can be done in #kubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:10] <erdemeser> I don't want to believe that any kubuntu or ubuntu users need help... :)
[22:44] <Khaotic> why cant i get openssh  to accept connections?
[22:48] <James147> Khaotic: do you have openssh-server install (needed for connecting to your computer)
[22:48] <Khaotic> yes
[22:48] <Khaotic> like it'll work if i try to connect to myself
[22:49] <Khaotic> ie; ssh 127.0.0.1
[22:49] <James147> Khaotic: are you getting an error?
[22:49] <Khaotic> says conection timed out
[22:49] <James147> Khaotic: do you have a firewall between the computers?
[22:50] <Khaotic> no
[22:50] <Khaotic> wait, could it be that i have port 22 open on another  computer/
[22:52] <James147> Khaotic: wouldnt have thourght so... can you ping the other computer?
[22:52] <Khaotic> let me try
[22:53] <Khaotic> yes
[22:59] <Khaotic> James147
[23:00] <James147> Khaotic: not entirly sure... looks like a connection problem rather then a problem with ssh, but I am not sure how to test it further
[23:01] <Khaotic> ive tried changing the port and everything
[23:30] <afief> I have an honest question and I hope no one misinterprets it as a troll: What makes KDE 4 so much slower than KDE3? Is it the sucky video drivers? Simply inefficient code? Too many futures?
[23:30] <afief> Note: I love KDE4 and wouldn't go back to 3 for the life of me, but I saw a friend of mine using KDE3.5 yesterday and was amazed by how snappy it was
[23:43] <christoph> hey, anyone here who could help me with a problem?
[23:44] <afief> christoph: state the nature of your kde emergency(and if people know how to answer they will)
[23:45] <christoph> The trash has reached its maximum size!
[23:45] <christoph> Cleanup the trash manually. --> trash is empty :(
[23:45] <christoph> happens whenever i try to erase some data
[23:46] <afief> there is a trash bin in kde? :O
[23:47] <westmi> yeah-would be nice to have a delete button
[23:47] <christoph> not only in kde but yes, i guess :)
[23:47] <westmi> how is the delete button enabled?
[23:48] <westmi> i know how in gnome, but I an new to kde :)
[23:48] <christoph> im a linux n00b.. and my problem encounters every time i right-click a folder with "move to trash" --> The trash has reached its maximum size!
[23:48] <christoph> Cleanup the trash manually.
[23:49] <christoph> stragen 0.o
[23:49] <christoph> strange..
[23:49] <westmi> a delete button would help you too
[23:49] <westmi> no more messin with the trash
[23:50] <christoph> u mean like directly erasing it. would be nice  :)
[23:51] <westmi> yes
[23:52] <christoph> but that doesnt change the nature of my problem. i still have to move the folder to the trash to get some extra space but i cant because the trash is "full"
[23:52] <christoph> help meeee: )
[23:52] <christoph> help me or i'll be going back to using windows :P
[23:53] <westmi> k button, computer, trash, empty trash
[23:54] <christoph> not possible because the trash seems to be empty, it only says that i should clean it up manually .. i dont know why :)
[23:55] <westmi> can you open the trash?
[23:56] <christoph> yes
[23:56] <westmi> and nothing is there?
[23:56] <christoph> yes
[23:56] <westmi> well, what are you trying to delete?
[23:56] <westmi> files? how big?
[23:56] <christoph> my music folder :P 35 Gb
[23:57] <westmi> akkk
[23:57] <westmi> now i get it
[23:57] <westmi> try to delete that in smaller chunks
[23:57] <christoph> but it wont work on any file, i tried single pdf files too
[23:57] <christoph> always the same message
[23:57] <christoph> The trash has reached its maximum size!
[23:57] <christoph> Cleanup the trash manually.
[23:59] <westmi> ahh...give me a few min and i'll figure out a cli way to delete
[23:59] <christoph> hf ;)
[23:59] <westmi> gotta look it up
[23:59] <apparle> christoph: why are you using trash
[23:59] <apparle> christoph: just dlete it
[23:59] <christoph> how?
[23:59] <apparle> christoph: Shift+Del