[00:01] hi all, is there any music player that would support samba shares? [00:02] preferably with music library/database === zz_Kalidarn is now known as Kalidarn === altecnologic is now known as Cristiano_Dias [00:04] bng007: that's up to the environtment [00:04] not the media player [00:04] unfortunately amarok isn't able to use KIO's shares because they dont seem to be mounted anywhere on the filesystem so I used sshfs [00:04] kde preferably, but since I have not founf any, i will go with any [00:05] well amarok is the best one around for linux hands down [00:05] beating rhthmbox and exhaile which are GTK ones ive used. [00:05] bng007: is the server a windows server? [00:05] I use amarok too, but I just got tired with dragging the individual songs from dolphin to amarok [00:05] ah [00:06] i use the media library thing [00:06] Kalidarn: no, it is a readynas [00:06] its the best at dealing with huge datbases [00:06] ah [00:06] i guess it only supports smb :( [00:06] i used to use smb for everything on my samba server but found it rather annoying :P [00:07] Kalidarn I would use the library too, but it is only local... on the readynas there are more protocols also, but I dont know any of them [00:07] Kalidarn: and first of all, dolphin shows only samba [00:07] it can do ftp too [00:07] and sshfs [00:07] but i dont think it mounts it to a folder [00:07] like gnome does with gvfs [00:08] sshfs application is seperate from the desktop environment [00:08] and ftp/sshfs would work with the amarok library? [00:08] not through KIO [00:08] :( [00:08] afaik [00:08] im not sure i just tried to do exactly what u were doing the other day [00:08] (it wont matter what player you use) [00:09] you need to be able to read them as files [00:09] imma try and have a look [00:10] these things seem pretty basic to me, pity it's not so [00:10] yeah [00:10] they are [00:10] there may be a way or a place it does let u access it [00:10] i just am not sure where it was [00:10] or if KIO did that [00:11] smb://192.168.1.254/dcecchin/ mmm that's the directory dolphin shows [00:11] but its a virtual directory [00:11] so maybe it's somewhere [00:12] oh wait [00:12] hmm [00:12] amarok really needs the ability to add things in network places [00:12] or [00:13] there needs to be a place where those directories are [00:14] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1243291 bng007 hmm [00:14] I installed Clementine today, but it's KDE thing it seems [00:18] Kalidarn: wow, that looks promising! [00:19] also dont use smbmount [00:19] because i used that [00:19] and i found it had issues with shutting down and unmounting [00:20] permanent hangs :P nobody uses it anymore [00:20] ie http://www.art.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=255872 [00:22] bng007: i asked in #kde [00:22] dont use smbmount [00:22] its old [00:22] and i dont think it works properly :P [00:22] mmm [00:22] they say amarok should be fine to use kio bng007 [00:22] bng007: http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/Samba [00:22] mmm seems to be the only way [00:23] Kalidarn: it does not list any samba shares, though [00:23] mount -t cifs -o fmask=444,dmask=555,guest //server/share /path/to/mount-point [00:23] that should work [00:23] Kalidarn: I use nfs to do that [00:23] !nfs [00:23] !lag [00:23] nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS. [00:23] You have lag, I don't have lag [00:24] or NFS [00:24] if your NAS supports it [00:24] NFS or sshfs are both nice options for UNIX computers [00:24] because they support POSIX permissions [00:24] SMB does not really [00:24] so its not ideal to use that with MacOSX or Linux or BSD or whatever. [00:25] i know the NAS i have has a web interface that lets me enable other protocols [00:25] it does nfs, smb, ftp [00:25] ok, so if i find NFS, how do I set it up so it just works? [00:25] and i think sshfs [00:25] yes bng007 [00:25] if your nas does nfs [00:25] that's the best option [00:25] or as good as sshfs [00:25] much better than smb [00:25] Kalidarn: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [00:26] Kalidarn: nfs/sshfs - how do I mount these automatically? is it in /etc/fstab ? [00:26] yeah [00:27] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo [00:27] Kalidarn: ok, I'll look into my ReadyNAS [00:27] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHFS [00:28] oh yeah if u use sshfs use this instead http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1173714 [00:29] hi all/any ... still have problems with my Xorg conf that crashes after an upgrade tokubuntu 10.10... sure could use some help [00:29] bng007: its possible your nas does not do sshfs [00:29] but quite likely will do nfs unless it's a cheapy one that only does samba and has some sort of proprietary os on it [00:30] Kalidarn: you're right, there is just NFS [00:30] yeah use that then your problems should be solved [00:30] and if you ever get a mac it should behave better too === root is now known as Guest18114 [00:31] I need a hand if anyone has time. Fresh Kubuntu install, set my headset to prefered device in all, I have sound in Amarok but not in any browsers [00:31] Kalidarn: I think I acces to it using afp on my mac mini [00:31] afp hehe [00:32] do mac mini support anything but afp? [00:32] ? :) [00:32] i was pretty sure afp only worked well with mac desktops :P [00:32] i believe nfs has good support in windows too if u install the unix subsystem [00:32] that microsoft provide [00:33] because it's used in huge enterprise for mounting shares [00:33] kubuntu exists beacause Ubuntu has gnome? [00:33] what sort of question is that [00:33] kubuntu is ubuntu [00:34] it just comes with kde and a splash screen for kde [00:34] yes, but why was kubuntu created, couldn´t just use bofe K and G in Ubuntu? [00:35] i think they wanted to keep the desktop environments seperate so that people would say when using blah [00:35] also when ubuntu first came out in 4.10 [00:35] kubuntu did not exist [00:35] i see. [00:35] its like xubuntu only came out around 5.04 [00:35] they should have chosen KDE if you ask us :) [00:35] mmmm [00:35] gnome was better than kde 3 :P [00:36] i thought [00:36] 2.18 is when gnome got good [00:36] and kde 3 still sucked [00:36] but now kde is way better :P [00:36] so ubuntu, from start used gnome? [00:36] i stopped being a massive gnomefag about 2 weeks ago when i switched back again [00:36] yes boogie1 [00:37] lol [00:37] SUSE i believe was using KDE at the start [00:37] Kalidarn: thnaks [00:37] and switched to gnome [00:37] with slab [00:37] because kde 4.0, 4.1, 4.2 were horrible [00:37] that said least now kde has a nice architecture [00:37] btw there is an interesting article about Qt and ubuntu on Ars [00:37] yeah and Qt i'd say is way nicer than gtk [00:38] especially to program in [00:38] about the only thing i remember hearing was qt libs are a bit bigger when packaging windows apps unless u recompile removing the stuff u dont need [00:38] but its way nicer on osx [00:38] what is slab and gnomefag? [00:38] gtk on osx is horrible [00:38] slab is a menu [00:38] Kalidarn: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [00:39] the article http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2010/10/canonical-cto-contemplates-qt-we-think-it-has-a-lot-to-offer-ubuntu.ars [00:39] not that it would mean much to KDE [00:39] Why doesnt the libre sw community combine kde and gnome and start over? [00:40] because they are completely different codebases [00:40] wasnt a big problem with Qt, about licences? [00:40] Kalidarn: oh!! [00:40] nothing is compatible :P [00:40] for that to happen a merge would need to occur and then it would take ages to be stable or usable [00:40] but the have very a clon of every app and Gtk is equivalent to Qt, as someone say [00:40] longer than when KDE 4 came out :P [00:41] boogie1: yeah it is sad :P but i guess it makes competition [00:41] one tries to be better than the other [00:41] what a waste of time. [00:41] but i understando [00:41] *understand [00:41] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Slab that is slab [00:41] Kalidarn: thanks!! [00:42] ill check it [00:42] i think kickoff and systemsettings are nicer [00:42] Kalidarn: where? [00:42] by nicer u mean better? [00:42] yeah [00:42] Ok...so I have an issue. Anyone available? [00:42] and nicer [00:42] looks better, functions better [00:42] k. [00:43] systemsettings is exactly like osx's system settings anyway :P [00:43] Kalidarn: help Sonic132 [00:43] good design works well [00:43] i care more about code than design [00:43] Sonic132: you need to tell us what it is [00:43] but its imp. [00:43] yah code too [00:43] sure [00:43] slab isn't all that stable [00:43] as it was third party [00:43] mm. [00:43] from memory when i tried to use it on a distro other than suse [00:43] can i ask you a non kubuntu question? [00:44] yeah [00:44] hi all.. is there someone who use kdevelop? i don't know how to configure it for java project [00:44] Maui: would that java project be using swing? [00:44] Ok so I tried to install Kubuntu 10.04 LTS on a second hard drive so as to keep Windows and Lin seperated. But it always fails during the formatting ext4 part of the installation. So now XP wont boot. I get no bootloader at all. It just flashes the dos cursor. [00:44] your probably better off using netbeans or eclipse it's what i use for java and j2ee [00:45] Kalidarn: There you go. [00:45] Kalidarn: i dont know much about IT. When you say design we are still talking about code, because all images are generated by code, right? [00:45] hmm, does it quit the installer Sonic132? [00:45] boogie1: yeah something like that [00:45] they're PNG or SVG or XPM images usually [00:45] Kalidarn: no, it's a port of opencv. I only need an 'how to' to import needed libraries [00:45] Kalidarn: Yeah...it gives me an unable to format the partion error and quits the setup. [00:45] Kalidarn: mmm ok thankls [00:45] also human interface guidelines i think for kickoff are more explanitory [00:46] Kalidarn: k! [00:46] Kalidarn: like gui? [00:46] Maui: I haven't used that :P [00:46] Sonic132: GPT or MBR? [00:46] oh you'd be using the ubuntu installer hmm [00:46] Kalidarn: What? You mean the error? [00:46] Kalidarn: have u never used kdevelop? [00:47] are you installing /boot to a primary partition [00:47] Kalidarn: I could try and reproduce the error so I could find out. [00:47] yeah and if it's in the installer switch to the last tty i think it's control alt F12 [00:47] or F11 [00:47] it shows you stuff [00:47] Kalidarn: YEah...I told it to wipe the entire drive. The seperate drive from the Windows one. [00:47] partition or hard disk? [00:48] Maui: not for java [00:48] Karlidarn: Ok...so it's on the Live CD that I'm installing in. So I press Alt+F12 in there? [00:48] control + alt [00:49] Kalidarn: i see u r awesome at multitasking [00:50] Sonic132: what's the last message in there [00:50] Kalidarn: Haven't booted the Live CD completely yet. It's kind of slow. [00:51] actually that might not work on kubuntu you might just have to tail /var.log/messages on say tty1 [00:51] did the kubuntu installer actually try to reboot your machine? [00:51] after it was finished [00:51] Sonic132: you might have better luck using the one on the desktop of the livecd [00:51] Kalidarn: No...it didn't finish. It failed formatting the ext4 partition. [00:51] for some reason the other one crashes :P [00:52] hmmm that's strange. [00:52] Kalidarn: That's how I did it. From the desktop of the LiveCD. [00:52] Kalidarn: I wish i could get XP to boot then I could try Wubi instead. [00:53] But the bootloader is apparently gone or something cause it wont boot. [00:54] Kalidarn: It's freaking slow. So it's finally on the splash screen. [00:54] hmmm [00:54] wasn't all that slow when i used it earlier today :P [00:54] but yeah it is loading everything from the disc [00:54] Kalidarn: in this: "mount -t nfs4 -o proto=tcp,port=2049 nfs-server:/ /mnt" [00:54] Kalidarn: nfs-server should be ip address? [00:54] bng007: i'd assume so i haven't followed that guide [00:54] Yeah...I'm thinking it's the computer. But I don't understand it cause we have lots of ram and a dvd/cd writer. [00:55] it looks like it [00:57] Ok, going to start the setup again. Then I'll let you know the error when it fails. [00:58] :P X just crashed on me for some weird reason [00:58] [ 3037.270] 15: /usr/lib/xorg/extra-modules/nvidia_drv.so (0x7f8758214000+0x3ad411) [0x7f87585c1411] [00:58] [ 3037.270] 16: /usr/bin/X (0x400000+0x2c2d9) [0x42c2d9] [00:58] [ 3037.270] 17: /usr/bin/X (0x400000+0x2184b) [0x42184b] [00:58] [ 3037.270] 18: /lib/libc.so.6 (__libc_start_main+0xfe) [0x7f875c807d8e] [00:58] [ 3037.270] 19: /usr/bin/X (0x400000+0x213d9) [0x4213d9] [00:58] Kalidarn: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [00:58] [ 3060.835] [mi] EQ overflowing. The server is probably stuck in an infinite loop. [00:58] aw well probably nvidia bug [00:59] Kalidarn: lol - as simple as this: sudo mount ip:/media /mnt/point [00:59] yeah that will be temporary tho [00:59] u'll need to add it to fstab permentely [01:01] Kalidarn: I know :) and thank you [01:01] also consider this: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/NFS-HOWTO/security.html [01:01] if security is important in your environment === mren is now known as mren|off [01:15] Kalidarn: Got the Error. Title: Failed to create a file system Details: The ext4 file system creation in partition #1 of SCSI7 (0,0,0) (sdg) failed. [01:16] Also, it's at 0% [01:16] hmm [01:17] try doing mkfs.ext4 on it [01:17] from a terminal [01:18] That's the whole command? [01:19] It gave me a syntax listing. [01:19] How would I use it in my case? [01:22] mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdg [01:22] and see if it gives u anything else [01:22] anything look wrong in fdisk -l [01:22] maybe cylinder overlaps or something weird windows has done [01:26] Kalidarn: after the mkfs. it gave me 'mkfs.ext4: Permission denied while trying to determine filesystem size' [01:26] did you use sudo [01:26] or do it as root [01:26] I did it as you typed it. [01:27] I'll try it as sudo [01:27] you need to use sudo then the command if it's a user your logged in as ie the $ [01:27] as ooposed to the # [01:27] Hi there - I'm interested in migrating to Kubuntu from my Ubuntu OS. What are the pros and cons? [01:28] Yeah...still got an error. '/dev/sdg is apparently in use by the system; will not make a filesystem here!' [01:28] Sonic132: make sure it's unmounted first [01:28] so sudo umount /dev/sdg [01:28] Can't you still just install the kde desktop over ubuntu? [01:28] u can install them sideby side [01:28] if you want [01:29] 'dev/sdg: not mounted' Sorry I was asking on behalf of blackwood. [01:29] cool I'll give it a try [01:30] http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kde [01:30] He left. [01:30] But yeah...it says it's not mounted. [01:30] hmm [01:31] that is strange. [01:31] when you do fdisk -l [01:31] see any errors [01:31] I'll start the setup (if possible) to get a read on the partition/hd names. [01:31] seems to be some reason it does no want to format [01:31] have any logical paritions? [01:31] did u let the ubuntu installer create them? [01:31] It doesn't say anything at all when I type fdisk -l [01:32] Yeah...I told the installer to wipe and format the entire drive. [01:32] i usually install linux first [01:32] It should have done that automatically. [01:32] and windows second [01:32] because windows is kind of annoying [01:33] with he way it allocates cylinders [01:33] That never worked for me. Bootloaders never worked if I installed Windows second. [01:33] yeah u just have to reinstall grub [01:33] but thats easy to do [01:33] its because windows overwrites grub all the time when it finishes installing [01:33] Well as it stands now I can't boot Windows. Maybe installing Grub would fix that as well. [01:33] probably :P [01:34] it'd give you a bootloader [01:34] But if I got this install to work. It'd do it anyway. [01:34] Is fdisk supposed to say something. Cause it doesn't. [01:35] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling%20GRUB%202 [01:35] fdisk -l should show partitions [01:35] if not it may be the disk is using GTP [01:35] GPT [01:35] GPT? [01:35] a newer replacement to MBR but note windows can't boot off that [01:35] Gnome Partion Table? [01:35] no [01:35] GUID Partition Table [01:35] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table [01:36] it's a replacement to MBR that windows uses for computers with EFI, and apple use it too [01:36] How'd that get on there? [01:36] it might not be :P [01:36] unless your on a mac :P [01:36] It was working until I tried to format a harddrive for linux. [01:36] windows won't format a disk with it [01:36] by default in the installer [01:36] it will however if it's say a second disk in your computer [01:36] ie sdb [01:37] fdisk -l will tell you if it is GPT [01:37] it'll say something like [01:37] WARNING: GPT (GUID Partition Table) detected on '/dev/sda'! The util fdisk doesn't support GPT. Use GNU Parted. [01:37] and hence fdisk -l does not show partitions [01:37] Well when my MyBook drive isn't connected the drive I'm trying to format is called sdb. [01:37] oh sure because its the second disk on your computer [01:38] I'm not using the same harddrive as Windows. [01:38] i meant a second disk on an ata channel [01:38] Ah...if I remember correctly they are all on seperate SATA channels. [01:39] well by that i mean actually physically using sata (doesn't matter if its master or slave) [01:40] Hmm...so what's the prognosis doc? [01:40] i would just in the installer for ubuntu [01:40] install ubuntu say to root [01:40] and make a swap partition and a boot one [01:40] and then make another primary one for windows [01:40] So redo Windows all over again? [01:41] you might have to [01:41] do it second [01:41] after the partitions are created (and don't obviously delete them in the windows installer) [01:41] We just got it to where we want it. Everythings updated to the newest versions. I don't really want to have to do that. [01:42] oh :P [01:42] We have a very limited amount of downloading we can do per month. So we'd have to redownload everything again. [01:42] hmm [01:43] so do you get an error when typing sudo fdisk -l? [01:43] what do you mean by 'it doesn't show anything' [01:44] ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ fdisk -l [01:44] ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ [01:44] sudo [01:44] That's what I mean. It outputs nothing. [01:44] fdisk requires superuser [01:44] Ahhh...ok [01:45] you need to either sudo su [01:45] and then type [01:45] # fdisk -l [01:45] or [01:45] Kalidarn: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [01:45] $ sudo fdisk -l [01:45] (not actually typing the # or $ it represents root and user respectively) [01:45] Ok got it to output something now. What am I looking for? [01:45] paste it in a pastebin [01:46] like above [01:46] I can try to type it in there. But the computer that is having the problems obviously doesn't have internet. [01:46] oh :P no network hmm [01:46] can you plug a usb stick in [01:46] and mount it [01:46] then do fdisk -l > file.txt [01:47] No. I have a Cricket USB modem connection. Don't know how to get it to connect in Linux. [01:47] i mean a USB memory stick [01:47] so i can see what the exact output is [01:47] ie [01:47] cd /mnt [01:47] I will go get a flash drive. Brb [01:48] mkdir -p /mnt/usb [01:48] mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/usb [01:48] fdisk -l > /mnt/usb/file.txt [01:48] umount /dev/sdb1 [01:49] (it might be sdc depending on how many disks are in that computer [01:49] Doesn't it automount it? [01:49] it might [01:49] im not sure if it does in the installer [01:49] It detected it and is showing the contents. [01:49] it probably will :P then [01:49] Ok...skip a step awesome. [01:50] so then just fdisk -l > /media/usbsticklabel/file.txt [01:50] may need to click on it in the device notifier [01:50] so that a dolphin window comes up viewing the contents (that will mount it) [01:52] Ok that worked. [01:52] Does this work: http://paste.ubuntu.com/519001/ ? [01:53] there appears to be 4 disks in this computer? [01:54] it should not look like this [01:54] if those are partitions [01:54] Hmmm...I believe one hd has two partitions. From what my dad said. Windows insisted on making a 16MB second partition for no reason. [01:54] sdi i assume is your usb stick [01:55] Then there is a second. Then a mybook external hd. [01:55] I suppose [01:55]