| maku | I am a newbie here, I downloaded minecraft, but I cannot get it to run. Will someone please help me? I have done everything I can to figure it out | 00:04 |
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| lindows | what is mine craft | 00:05 |
| maku | a game, it logs into the internet | 00:05 |
| maku | it's at minecraft.net | 00:05 |
| lindows | ok | 00:05 |
| maku | like I said, I downloaded it, the webpage says to run it with java..but when I open the file and seqarch what I can run it with it does not have the option to run it with java... | 00:06 |
| kklimonda_ | maku: but that's most likely not the right channel to ask this question (unless you are already on 11.04). Try #ubuntu | 00:06 |
| maku | oh ok sorry | 00:07 |
| kklimonda_ | maku: i know it works on 10.10 just fine, you have to install java for it to run | 00:07 |
| kklimonda_ | but I don't remember specifics at the moment (what package ships java, what command to write to run it etc.) | 00:08 |
| maku | hmm, ok I thought I had it installed but I'll try to check it | 00:08 |
| BUGabundo | oh goodie!! Firefox decided to crash... always | 00:11 |
| BUGabundo | what a nite ! | 00:19 |
| BUGabundo | grub broken | 00:19 |
| BUGabundo | firefox 3.6 broken | 00:19 |
| BUGabundo | apport broken | 00:19 |
| BUGabundo | wow | 00:19 |
| BUGabundo | File "/usr/bin/apport-cli", line 414, in <module> | 00:19 |
| kklimonda_ | :) | 00:20 |
| kklimonda_ | heh, 11 hours to departure and I can't slee P/ | 00:20 |
| kklimonda_ | oh well, I'll sleep on a plane | 00:20 |
| kklimonda_ | BUGabundo: I see you are having a great time with natty :) | 00:22 |
| BUGabundo | :) | 00:22 |
| kklimonda_ | Linux in a nutshell: "hey, that almost works for me". :D | 00:27 |
| BUGabundo | *** Problem in firefox-3.7 | 00:28 |
| BUGabundo | The problem cannot be reported: | 00:28 |
| BUGabundo | bad apport | 00:28 |
| kklimonda_ | :D | 00:31 |
| kklimonda_ | bad apport, no supper for you! | 00:31 |
| penguin42 | BUGabundo: Welcome to +1 - at the sharp end of the Narwhal | 00:32 |
| BUGabundo | https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=606724 | 00:34 |
| ubottu | Mozilla bug 606724 in General "0x00007ffff1779ba5 in raise (sig=<value optimized out>) at ../nptl/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/raise.c:64" [Critical,Unconfirmed] | 00:34 |
| === ePirat is now known as testnick | ||
| === testnick is now known as ePirat | ||
| BUGabundo | ohhhh and evince is broken too | 01:00 |
| penguin42 | BUGabundo: Ooh so it is | 01:04 |
| BUGabundo | warning: the debug information found in "/usr/lib/debug/usr/bin/evince" does not match "/usr/bin/evince" (CRC mismatch). | 01:05 |
| BUGabundo | WOW | 01:05 |
| BUGabundo | in 5 years ... that's a first | 01:05 |
| penguin42 | do you want me to try the same report? | 01:06 |
| BUGabundo | already did | 01:06 |
| kklimonda_ | BUGabundo: that's uncommon but not unseen :) | 01:06 |
| BUGabundo | it is by me | 01:07 |
| penguin42 | give us the bug number and I'll confirm it | 01:07 |
| BUGabundo | uploading logs | 01:07 |
| BUGabundo | LP is slow | 01:07 |
| BUGabundo | all I see is a rotating star | 01:08 |
| BUGabundo | ahh it moved | 01:08 |
| BUGabundo | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evince/+bug/665747 | 01:09 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 665747 in evince (Ubuntu) "0x00007ffff3c9b9a5 in g_logv () from /lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 " [Undecided,New] | 01:09 |
| penguin42 | BUGabundo: I reckon the settings schema error is more likely the cause | 01:09 |
| BUGabundo | probably | 01:09 |
| BUGabundo | what was that deb md5 tool? | 01:10 |
| BUGabundo | wanna check if anymore packages have bad hashes | 01:10 |
| penguin42 | BUGabundo: Is that just an outdated evince-dbgsym package? | 01:11 |
| BUGabundo | penguin42: no idea | 01:11 |
| BUGabundo | its from ddebs | 01:11 |
| BUGabundo | ~$ apt-cache policy evince-dbg | 01:12 |
| BUGabundo | *** 2.32.0-0ubuntu1 0 500 mirror://mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt/ natty/main amd64 Packages | 01:12 |
| BUGabundo | $ apt-cache policy evince-dbgsym | 01:13 |
| BUGabundo | Installed: (none) | 01:13 |
| BUGabundo | 2.32.0-0ubuntu1 0 500 http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/ natty/main amd64 Packages | 01:13 |
| penguin42 | yeh same | 01:13 |
| penguin42 | BUGabundo: add2b5f350c4bdd01c6a1a90b7bd1911 /usr/bin/evince ea2180812908096d076dee33364dbdaa /usr/lib/debug/usr/bin/evince | 01:14 |
| BUGabundo | debsums . found it | 01:14 |
| penguin42 | 64bit | 01:14 |
| BUGabundo | 86c772088166e92b051f642c1bfe0707 /usr/lib/debug/usr/bin/evince | 01:15 |
| BUGabundo | add2b5f350c4bdd01c6a1a90b7bd1911 /usr/bin/evince | 01:15 |
| penguin42 | hmm interesting difference of opinion | 01:15 |
| BUGabundo | so neither of us match | 01:17 |
| penguin42 | They shouldn't match | 01:17 |
| penguin42 | but I would have thought we should have had the same one as each other | 01:18 |
| BUGabundo | $ debsums -cs | 01:19 |
| BUGabundo | nothing | 01:21 |
| penguin42 | hmm, it says evince-dbgsym doesn't have md5sums | 01:21 |
| BUGabundo | just a bunch of "no md5sums for" | 01:21 |
| BUGabundo | I don't have that one penguin42 | 01:22 |
| BUGabundo | http://paste.ubuntu.com/518984/ | 01:22 |
| penguin42 | BUGabundo: do you have evince-dbgsym installed? | 01:24 |
| BUGabundo | no | 01:24 |
| BUGabundo | only dbg | 01:24 |
| penguin42 | ah, I used dbgsym | 01:24 |
| BUGabundo | ahh | 01:24 |
| penguin42 | I've never understood why there are the two | 01:25 |
| BUGabundo | easy | 01:25 |
| BUGabundo | diff purpose | 01:25 |
| BUGabundo | we can build gdb more easily and smaller | 01:25 |
| kklimonda_ | two wat? | 01:25 |
| kklimonda_ | what* | 01:25 |
| BUGabundo | but dbgsym provide more info | 01:25 |
| BUGabundo | but now, LP can rebuild the crash from much less info | 01:26 |
| BUGabundo | so we no longer need dbgsym AFAIK | 01:26 |
| penguin42 | kklimonda_: -dbg and -dbgsym | 01:26 |
| kklimonda_ | nope | 01:26 |
| kklimonda_ | penguin42: -dbg is created manually by maintainers (you have to specify it in d/control and set it up in d/rules) | 01:27 |
| kklimonda_ | penguin42: -dbgsym is generated automatically for all binary packages built on ubuntu (official) builders. | 01:27 |
| penguin42 | kklimonda_: Is -dbg a -g build ? | 01:28 |
| kklimonda_ | BUGabundo: dbgsym provides only info, i.e. there is almost nothing in the binary itself. LP can't retrace crashes without it. | 01:28 |
| kklimonda_ | penguin42: no - it's not a program at all. | 01:29 |
| kklimonda_ | penguin42: it just contains symbols stripped from a binary | 01:29 |
| penguin42 | kklimonda_: So with the -dbgsym there is no need for the -dbg ? | 01:30 |
| kklimonda_ | penguin42: gdb can then load those symbols - but it launches normal binary. | 01:30 |
| kklimonda_ | penguin42: yeah, -dbg are mostly an "artefact" of debian. But they are useful, you don't have to have ddebs repositories added for example to install them. | 01:30 |
| kklimonda_ | s/of/from/ | 01:31 |
| kklimonda_ | Fedora has had an awesome idea how to do it the "right" way. | 01:31 |
| BUGabundo | :D | 01:31 |
| penguin42 | kklimonda_: How? | 01:31 |
| kklimonda_ | don't know if they have implemented it but the idea was to have a virtual filesystem that pulls the needed files with debug symbols over the network. | 01:32 |
| kklimonda_ | because most of the time you only need a subset of those files (or even their content) anyway | 01:32 |
| penguin42 | I guess you could do a FUSE for /usr/lib/debug | 01:33 |
| kklimonda_ | actually Microsoft has done it even better by integrating their debugger directly with a server that can pull symbols on demand (and then cache them locally). | 01:34 |
| penguin42 | neat I guess | 01:35 |
| kklimonda_ | yeah, my /usr/lib/debug uses 1.8GB of space | 01:36 |
| kklimonda_ | and 1.6GB of it is from modules :D | 01:36 |
| * kklimonda_ has tried to get systemtap to work | 01:36 | |
| yofel | I guess I should clean up a bit then :D | 01:37 |
| yofel | 9.1G /usr/lib/debug/ | 01:37 |
| * yofel blames KDE | 01:37 | |
| BUGabundo | 767M/usr/lib/debug | 01:37 |
| BUGabundo | yofel: EEEEEWWWW | 01:37 |
| kklimonda_ | I tend to keep debug symbols only for things I can actually debug myself :) | 01:38 |
| kklimonda_ | I push rest of crashes to LP | 01:38 |
| kklimonda_ | I do have local Qt with debug enabled though which is ~1GB. | 01:39 |
| * yofel has mostly given up on the auto retracer - not reliable enough | 01:39 | |
| kklimonda_ | and I've tried to get a local gnome build from git | 01:40 |
| kklimonda_ | but it fails for some stupid reasons :/ | 01:40 |
| penguin42 | time to go to bed and see whether Natty manages to hibernate this machine - maverick was awful at it | 01:40 |
| kklimonda_ | heh, I had to disable 3d on nouveau because my laptop would not wake up from sleep :/ | 01:40 |
| yofel | I don't see the point of hibernate... suspend is a lot faster and even shutting down and booting fresh is faster here | 01:41 |
| yofel | and it never was reliable enough here to hibernate while having stuff still open | 01:42 |
| kklimonda_ | well, hibernation is, at least in my experience, completely broken under Linux | 01:42 |
| kklimonda_ | it's actually quite fast on Windows | 01:42 |
| kklimonda_ | but it does take ages on Linux and doesn't work half of the time | 01:42 |
| yofel | really? I think the speed is the same, XP gave you a progress bar though | 01:43 |
| BUGabundo | I stop using hibernate two cycles ago | 01:43 |
| kklimonda_ | Windows 7 doesn't give any progress bar | 01:43 |
| BUGabundo | but now, when battery ends , it goes into some kind of state | 01:43 |
| BUGabundo | that's not suspend nor hiberate | 01:43 |
| BUGabundo | and never resumes | 01:43 |
| yofel | then again, *any* swap operation seems to be awfully slow these days, last time I needed like 100MiB of swap my system got almost unusable o.O | 01:44 |
| BUGabundo | I don't have swap | 01:44 |
| yofel | I don't need swap most of the time, but it's better than oom-killer | 01:44 |
| kklimonda_ | actually any i/o operations are awfully slow these days. | 01:44 |
| kklimonda_ | I have to use ionice -c3 when I unpack big archives or I risk freezing Firefox and few other applications. | 01:45 |
| yofel | +1 | 01:45 |
| * BUGabundo blames barriers | 01:46 | |
| * kklimonda_ doesn't have enough data to decide where to put blame but still hates it :/ | 01:48 | |
| bjsnider | it's the scheduler, probably | 01:58 |
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| BUGabundo | it been getting worse since lucid beta | 02:12 |
| BUGabundo | https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/664107 | 02:25 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 664107 in Ubuntu "Launchpad trademark" [Undecided,Invalid] | 02:25 |
| * BUGabundo ducks | 02:25 | |
| kklimonda_ | it's old news :) | 02:25 |
| BUGabundo | Reported by Greg Auger on 2010-10-20 | 02:26 |
| kklimonda_ | BUGabundo: it made reddit, identi.ca and few other places ;) | 02:26 |
| BUGabundo | its weekend | 02:26 |
| BUGabundo | I've been offline | 02:26 |
| kklimonda_ | oh? | 02:26 |
| kklimonda_ | you? offline? :P | 02:26 |
| kklimonda_ | or have you completely switched over to the dark, droidish side? ;) | 02:27 |
| BUGabundo | launchpad trademark LOL | 02:31 |
| BUGabundo | n8 peeps | 03:38 |
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| pepee | hi. is there a good channel for resolving problems other than #ubuntu? | 05:27 |
| pepee | if someone can help me: got this from a kernel panic http://pastebin.com/WVE4Ayts (ubuntu maverick) | 05:28 |
| rww | !crossposting | 05:29 |
| ubottu | Please don't ask the same question in multiple Ubuntu channels at the same time. Many helpers are in more than one channel and it's not fair to them or the other people seeking support. | 05:29 |
| rww | plus, maverick is offtopic for this channel. | 05:30 |
| pepee | sadly, no one is helping me... anyway, thanks. | 05:30 |
| pepee | bye | 05:30 |
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| robertf | Hello | 12:14 |
| robertf | I'd like to try ubuntu natty, when the iso images will be available? | 12:14 |
| penguin42 | robertf: I think a while yet; I'm not sure when the ISOs start; things like do-release-upgrade and update-manager -d don't happen yet; the only way to try it is by editing sources.list and doing an apt-get dist-upgrade at the moment - it's very early | 12:16 |
| robertf | penguin42: i prefer a fresh install :) | 12:18 |
| jbicha | robertf: very litle has changed so far | 14:09 |
| BUGabundo | !info smartmontools | 14:17 |
| ubottu | smartmontools (source: smartmontools): control and monitor storage systems using S.M.A.R.T.. In component main, is optional. Version 5.39.1+svn3077-1ubuntu1 (maverick), package size 422 kB, installed size 1016 kB | 14:17 |
| BUGabundo | maverick? | 14:18 |
| BUGabundo | I knew something was wrong with it | 14:18 |
| BUGabundo | someone uploaded the wrong file/pocket | 14:18 |
| penguin42 | BUGabundo: I seem to have 5.39.1+svn3124-1 | 14:18 |
| BUGabundo | me too | 14:18 |
| BUGabundo | but that one is higher | 14:19 |
| BUGabundo | but fails to upgrade cause it was removed | 14:19 |
| penguin42 | BUGabundo: Me thinks that bot needs its brain updating | 14:19 |
| BUGabundo | no, my APT db says the same | 14:19 |
| penguin42 | apt-cache show shows 3124 for me | 14:20 |
| BUGabundo | and good afternoon everyone o/ | 14:20 |
| BUGabundo | Installed: 5.39.1+svn3077-1ubuntu1 | 14:20 |
| BUGabundo | Candidate: 5.39.1+svn3124-1 | 14:20 |
| BUGabundo | 5.39.1+svn3124-1 0 500 mirror://mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt/ natty/main amd64 Packages | 14:20 |
| BUGabundo | *** 5.39.1+svn3077-1ubuntu1 0 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status | 14:20 |
| penguin42 | yeh so you're just not upto date | 14:23 |
| BUGabundo | I can't ... it fails to fetch the file | 14:24 |
| BUGabundo | maybe it's the list of mirrors that is outdated | 14:24 |
| * BUGabundo snake eyes jpds | 14:24 | |
| BUGabundo | The following packages have unmet dependencies: | 14:26 |
| BUGabundo | python-paramiko: Depends: python-crypto (>= 2.1.0-2) but 2.0.1+dfsg1-4ubuntu2 is installed. | 14:26 |
| BUGabundo | this ones have been dragging since I upgraded to natty | 14:26 |
| BUGabundo | W: Failed to fetch mirror://mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt/pool/universe/c/compizconfig-settings-manager/compizconfig-settings-manager_0.8.2-0ubuntu2_all.deb | 14:31 |
| BUGabundo | 404 Not Found [Mirror: http://cesium.di.uminho.pt/pub/ubuntu-archive/] | 14:31 |
| BUGabundo | one of the mirrors much be wanky | 14:31 |
| BUGabundo | getting bad keys too | 14:32 |
| BUGabundo | changing to MAIN mirror | 14:33 |
| penguin42 | anyone know if Atoms can do 64bit? | 14:33 |
| BUGabundo | 2nd gen, maybe | 14:34 |
| BUGabundo | 1st gen, no | 14:34 |
| penguin42 | know how I can tell? | 14:34 |
| BUGabundo | by the chip model | 14:35 |
| BUGabundo | those N something | 14:35 |
| BUGabundo | let me read it up, in wikipedia | 14:35 |
| penguin42 | I'll check on Intel's site | 14:36 |
| penguin42 | bah, 32 bit | 14:36 |
| penguin42 | It's the N270 I've got | 14:36 |
| BUGabundo | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Atom | 14:37 |
| BUGabundo | some of the n2, and all n3 and n4 are 64bits capable | 14:38 |
| BUGabundo | they no longer are really low power, are they? | 14:38 |
| penguin42 | BUGabundo: Yeh this guy isn't http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=36331 | 14:38 |
| BUGabundo | from 2w to 13w :\ | 14:38 |
| penguin42 | well, it's still 1/10th of a high end one | 14:38 |
| penguin42 | but yeh 13W is getting a bit silly | 14:39 |
| penguin42 | most annoying, I was looking at the v4l code 32/64bit compat code but the only machine I've got with a camera is 32bit | 14:40 |
| BUGabundo | eheh | 14:44 |
| BUGabundo | python-paramiko: | 14:51 |
| BUGabundo | Depends: python-crypto (>=2.1.0-2) but 2.0.1+dfsg1-4ubuntu2 is to be installed | 14:51 |
| BUGabundo | anyone can get that installed? | 14:51 |
| penguin42 | apparently | 14:52 |
| penguin42 | oh no | 14:52 |
| penguin42 | yeh paramiko is stuck for me as well | 14:52 |
| BUGabundo | been like that for over two weeks :( | 14:53 |
| BUGabundo | I wish any of my both browser WOULDN'T CRASH | 14:59 |
| penguin42 | is it a plugin? | 14:59 |
| BUGabundo | I guess it mozilla way of tellimg me to finally move to FF4 | 15:00 |
| BUGabundo | I've never run any "old" app so long | 15:00 |
| BUGabundo | I usually upgrade to that latest browser version available | 15:01 |
| BUGabundo | but one of my most used plugins doesn't work, nor did grease monkey | 15:01 |
| BUGabundo | let me check now | 15:01 |
| penguin42 | BUGabundo: I don't use ff heavily on this machine that I've got natty on, but it's just played a youtube video OK | 15:14 |
| BUGabundo | oh it works great for a while | 15:16 |
| BUGabundo | crashes are randonm | 15:16 |
| penguin42 | yeh, I don't use it that regularly - are you usign 64bit flash or 32bit +nspluginwrapper? | 15:17 |
| BUGabundo | 64bits | 15:24 |
| BUGabundo | "square" preview 2 | 15:24 |
| penguin42 | yeh well, I do like having my Flash in a separate process | 15:25 |
| BUGabundo | okay | 15:27 |
| BUGabundo | time to remove it then | 15:27 |
| BUGabundo | eheh | 15:27 |
| BUGabundo | lets see how long I survive | 15:27 |
| BUGabundo | nope | 15:46 |
| BUGabundo | still can't move to ff4 | 15:46 |
| BUGabundo | ~/.mozilla$ mv plugins/libflashplayer.so . | 16:06 |
| BUGabundo | Flash BE GONE | 16:06 |
| === Malkavian is now known as Malkavian_ | ||
| robertf | jbicha: thank you | 19:46 |
| RoC_MasterMind | Anyone else get a boot hang after installing ubuntu server to an iscsi root? I get this: http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/9383/screenshotwrw.png | 21:16 |
| BUGabundo | Priority Inbox 225,936k | 22:06 |
| BUGabundo | Inbox (1) 371,836k | 22:06 |
| BUGabundo | Seesmic 633,708k | 22:06 |
| BUGabundo | chromium really likes its memory | 22:06 |
| bjsnider | BUGabundo, did gmailchecker work for you? | 22:08 |
| BUGabundo | never | 22:08 |
| BUGabundo | let me retry | 22:09 |
| bjsnider | in what sense did it not work? | 22:09 |
| BUGabundo | File "/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/desktopcouch/start_local_couchdb.py", line 236, in start_couchdb | 22:09 |
| bjsnider | i thought he'd fixed that issue | 22:12 |
| bjsnider | it doesn't work for me either, but only because the inbox link doesn't show up in the messaging menu | 22:13 |
| knittl | woohooo | 23:26 |
| knittl | when should i upgrade? :] | 23:27 |
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