| ScottL | holstein, now i think it's time for a meeting about the website :) | 01:59 |
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| holstein | ScottL: cool | 02:52 |
| holstein | yeah | 02:53 |
| holstein | looks like we got a lot of themes to choose from | 02:53 |
| holstein | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/TaskWebRevamp | 02:53 |
| holstein | and others right | 02:53 |
| holstein | ? | 02:53 |
| ScottL | well, just two "themes" on the web revamp wiki page really | 03:11 |
| ScottL | but they have really gotten much better | 03:11 |
| paultag | hey all | 03:34 |
| paultag | I hope all are doing well :) | 03:34 |
| rlameiro | hey everyone | 13:47 |
| rlameiro | scott-work: not at uds? | 13:47 |
| scott-work | rlameiro: no :( | 14:03 |
| scott-work | i had a slim chance of managing to go to UDS but alas, too many things needed to line up for it to happen | 14:04 |
| scott-work | next year i will make one of the UDS's | 14:04 |
| scott-work | my wife wants me to get sponsored for the next one, which i presume will be in europe if the historical schedule holds | 14:04 |
| scott-work | that way we can buy her plane ticket and she can go as well | 14:05 |
| scott-work | she's only flown once before (with me to go to texas tech university) and she's never been out of the state, much less the united states | 14:06 |
| rlameiro | ok | 14:06 |
| rlameiro | maybe we can meet in Europe next uds :D | 14:06 |
| scott-work | that would be awesome! | 14:07 |
| rlameiro | it depends where it is, and when | 14:07 |
| scott-work | there are many people i would like to finally shake hands with...you, luke, emmet | 14:07 |
| scott-work | maybe even falktx and janne, alessio (both of them!) | 14:08 |
| rlameiro | well, maybe we could do some JAM session :D | 14:08 |
| scott-work | yeah, jcastro and jono always seem to do something (usually some metallica) when they get together at the UDS | 14:08 |
| rlameiro | :D | 14:09 |
| rlameiro | next uds will be in may I asume | 14:09 |
| rlameiro | it will be a little hard if it overlays on top of my students exams, but maybe it can be don | 14:09 |
| * rlameiro back to writing..... | 14:10 | |
| scott-work | oh, rlameiro, i was thinking this morning of various things and people and you were one of them! | 14:20 |
| scott-work | have you happened to make any progress on ubuntustudio-controls by chance? | 14:20 |
| rlameiro | that is a point that needs deeps discussion :D | 14:20 |
| rlameiro | since most of ubuntustudio controls functionallity is fading away, we should think if it should remain or not | 14:21 |
| rlameiro | and if it remains in wich sense | 14:21 |
| rlameiro | for instance, will it become on some sort of "HUB" or just a little tool | 14:22 |
| rlameiro | I was thinking on something like KXStudio | 14:22 |
| rlameiro | A place to config plugin folders, add ppas etc | 14:23 |
| rlameiro | since consolekit that much of the config isnt needed anymore | 14:23 |
| rlameiro | For me the "hub" aproach seems to be the way we should do it. | 14:25 |
| rlameiro | have a central app that will link to the comunity, to FAQs, to how to, etc | 14:25 |
| rlameiro | also it could embed a webpage on it detailing workflows etc | 14:26 |
| scott-work | i'm not sure that i agree that most the functionality is fading away | 14:27 |
| scott-work | and you are right that more discussion is needed (or at least desired) | 14:27 |
| scott-work | my opinion is that just because ardour wants unlimited memlock, a user might not be able to afford that (memory wise) and would need to adjust it still | 14:28 |
| scott-work | additionally, i would like to see that ubuntu studio PPA where any kernels are available be listed in studio-controls along with any backports-testing ppa | 14:28 |
| scott-work | you have ideas, i have ideas, others most likely have ideas as well, hopefully we can find a compatible union between them all and implement it | 14:29 |
| scott-work | or them | 14:29 |
| rlameiro | yeap, exactly | 14:29 |
| rlameiro | but as the only controls functionality lasting is the memlock. | 14:30 |
| scott-work | and i think raw1394 as well, no? | 14:31 |
| rlameiro | scott-work: there are some technical decissions that need to be made for this | 14:31 |
| scott-work | for memlock? | 14:31 |
| rlameiro | scott-work: no, with the new firewire stack | 14:31 |
| rlameiro | about tech decissions are, how will it be implemented | 14:32 |
| rlameiro | in GTK or QT? | 14:32 |
| scott-work | http://www.ffado.org/?q=node/1316 | 14:32 |
| scott-work | do you mean this? | 14:32 |
| rlameiro | will it be wrong to implement it in Qt? since we already ship qjackctl i dont see why not use QT. | 14:33 |
| rlameiro | or should it be GTK to be on line with other ubuntu implementations? | 14:33 |
| rlameiro | if it is in Qt, we can "use" some help from Falktx for example | 14:33 |
| rlameiro | or even RNCBC (i can try to pull him in) | 14:34 |
| scott-work | i'm not sure what you mean by "how will it be implemented" since i don't use firewire | 14:34 |
| scott-work | since you are mentioning gtk or qt then i am assuming something with a dialouge box | 14:35 |
| rlameiro | scott-work: I am talking about the controls, not FW :D | 14:35 |
| rlameiro | i tested firewire in the 10.10 and it worked out of the box | 14:35 |
| rlameiro | it maybe only my card maybe... dont know | 14:36 |
| rlameiro | scott-work: to clarify, i was talking about the technical choices on the ubuntustudio controls development. because that will choose who can help, for instance | 14:38 |
| rlameiro | http://video.ubuntu.com/live/ | 14:40 |
| TheMuso | Did anybody find out what Sebo wanted from me? | 14:54 |
| TheMuso | Sebboh even | 14:54 |
| grantsmith | hi.. does Studio 10.10 have gscanbus, for configuring the MAudio firewire solo ? And if so, is it compiled against libgtk2 ? | 16:30 |
| AutoStatic | Don't know | 16:31 |
| AutoStatic | I don't use gscanbus | 16:31 |
| AutoStatic | I think it's deprecated regarding FireWire soundcards | 16:32 |
| AutoStatic | ffado-test and ffado-diag do all the magic | 16:32 |
| grantsmith | oh, interesting. Thanks I'll research that. | 16:34 |
| AutoStatic | You're welcome. Those tools are in the ffado-tools package | 16:34 |
| grantsmith | so is ffado a replacement to freebob ? | 16:35 |
| grantsmith | never mind. thanks google :] | 16:37 |
| scott-work | holstein: are you around? | 18:24 |
| scott-work | abogani: have you heard anything from UKT or JFo about getting the -lowlatency kernel into natty? | 19:09 |
| paultag | morning scott-work :) | 19:49 |
| scott-work | hia paultag ! | 19:49 |
| paultag | scott-work, how's life? :) | 19:49 |
| scott-work | how are you doing? | 19:49 |
| scott-work | paultag: been real, real busy lately :/ | 19:49 |
| paultag | scott-work, well, thanks -- I was up late last night doing *nothing*, it was the worst, but I've got my coffee, and doing just fine :) | 19:50 |
| paultag | scott-work, awww. Anything I can help with, or is it all meatspace stuff? | 19:50 |
| scott-work | non-ubuntu studio stuff unofrtunately | 19:50 |
| paultag | Shucks | 19:50 |
| scott-work | lol | 19:50 |
| paultag | :) | 19:50 |
| scott-work | i started updating the seeds for natty this weekend but haven't finished yet, but with UDS going on i don't think it's a big rush anyways | 19:50 |
| paultag | scott-work, nah | 19:51 |
| scott-work | i doubt than per.sia or the.muso will have time to review it before the weekend | 19:51 |
| paultag | mmm | 19:51 |
| paultag | scott-work, is it just the ubuntustudio-meta package? | 19:52 |
| paultag | scott-work, I've been working on metapackages with germinate lately ( Might try and upload a fluxbox metapackage ) | 19:54 |
| scott-work | paultag: no, it's far more than that | 19:55 |
| paultag | OK, cool. Then I'm useless :) | 19:55 |
| scott-work | i'll be updating video and graphic seeds, removing the audio seed and then adding audio-common, recording, and generation seeds | 19:56 |
| paultag | Oh jeez | 19:56 |
| scott-work | the idea to two fold: give the user more control over the audio applications installed and also clear out the cruft of packages installed | 19:56 |
| paultag | mmhum :) | 19:57 |
| scott-work | i've spent weeks working through things and then documenting the steps i want/need to take, and even then i've overlooked some stuff :P | 19:57 |
| scott-work | i can only imagine how this would have gone had i gone in blindly | 19:57 |
| paultag | +1 | 19:57 |
| scott-work | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Sandbox#Seeds%20Update | 19:58 |
| scott-work | that's my working notes | 19:58 |
| paultag | scott-work, sweet. | 19:58 |
| scott-work | and i will need to also update the -meta package to make a transition package for the deprecated audio seed | 19:59 |
| scott-work | 19:59 | |
| scott-work | although, i did think of something | 19:59 |
| scott-work | i was going to talk with astraljava about a backports testing PPA | 19:59 |
| scott-work | the idea would be to create a PPA that ubuntu studio devs use to make backport packages and test them | 20:00 |
| paultag | scott-work, should be easy enough :) | 20:00 |
| scott-work | then we can alert the official backports persons know about them to get them into the official backports repositories | 20:00 |
| paultag | scott-work, +1, solid idea | 20:00 |
| paultag | scott-work, I can help with backporting, if you need more hands | 20:00 |
| scott-work | it's really only in the gestation phase at this moment | 20:01 |
| scott-work | i was hoping that astraljava would pounce on it as well :) | 20:01 |
| paultag | scott-work, just putting the offer on the table :) | 20:01 |
| astraljava | scott-work: Hi. | 20:01 |
| scott-work | absolutely paultag, the help would be appreciated | 20:01 |
| scott-work | hi astraljava | 20:02 |
| scott-work | i don't know if we want to backport applications for every release or just for the lts version | 20:02 |
| scott-work | i was thinking just the LTS for the time being, which is fortuitous since the last release *was* the LTS release ;) | 20:02 |
| astraljava | Right, works for me. | 20:03 |
| scott-work | astraljava: do you think you could identify some of the applications from maverick that would be good in lucid ? | 20:03 |
| astraljava | scott-work: Absolutely. | 20:03 |
| scott-work | later this week i can make the ppa (or someone else within ubuntustudio-dev in launchpad can) | 20:03 |
| astraljava | scott-work: I can do that too. | 20:04 |
| scott-work | and anyone who wants to help (including you paultag!) can help | 20:04 |
| paultag | :P | 20:04 |
| scott-work | astraljava: per.sia mentioned that we should focus this ppa on testing backports...so we might call it "backports-testing" or something simiilar | 20:04 |
| paultag | are we thinking bug reports after the list is all set? | 20:04 |
| astraljava | scott-work: Gotcha. | 20:05 |
| scott-work | paultag: yes, we would want to file bugs to get the backports done properly | 20:05 |
| scott-work | we can do them now, or later when the backport is tested | 20:06 |
| astraljava | I think the normal procedure is to file the bug once you have two testers report already. | 20:07 |
| paultag | against ubuntu studio? | 20:14 |
| paultag | I was just thinking logistics for people to prepare stuff for studio testing | 20:14 |
| holstein | scott-work: hey | 20:19 |
| holstein | i was busy for a bit there | 20:19 |
| scott-work | paultag: i think it backport bugs have general been filed against ubuntu for any particular package | 21:39 |
| scott-work | you might add ubuntu studio as "Also affect project" however ,but that may not be necessary | 21:39 |
| scott-work | especially if we are the ones spearheading the backports | 21:40 |
| scott-work | 21:40 | |
| scott-work | holstein: would you like to help organizing the website meeting and some other odds and ends | 21:40 |
| scott-work | 21:40 | |
| scott-work | oh, astraljava and paultag, i would defintely be available to help with testing for backports | 21:40 |
| astraljava | scott-work: Noted, but I will most likely send a message to the lists anyway when a package is uploaded. Will let you know separately here, too. | 21:42 |
| paultag | scott-work, cheers | 21:42 |
| scott-work | i've read that shuttleworth is changing ubuntu desktop away from gnome to unity | 22:58 |
| scott-work | http://blogs.computerworld.com/17224/ubuntu_changes_its_desktop_from_gnome_to_unity | 22:58 |
| scott-work | i wonder how much truth is in this and how it will affect ubuntu studio | 22:58 |
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