[01:59] holstein, now i think it's time for a meeting about the website :) [02:52] ScottL: cool [02:53] yeah [02:53] looks like we got a lot of themes to choose from [02:53] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/TaskWebRevamp [02:53] and others right [02:53] ? [03:11] well, just two "themes" on the web revamp wiki page really [03:11] but they have really gotten much better [03:34] hey all [03:34] I hope all are doing well :) [13:47] hey everyone [13:47] scott-work: not at uds? [14:03] rlameiro: no :( [14:04] i had a slim chance of managing to go to UDS but alas, too many things needed to line up for it to happen [14:04] next year i will make one of the UDS's [14:04] my wife wants me to get sponsored for the next one, which i presume will be in europe if the historical schedule holds [14:05] that way we can buy her plane ticket and she can go as well [14:06] she's only flown once before (with me to go to texas tech university) and she's never been out of the state, much less the united states [14:06] ok [14:06] maybe we can meet in Europe next uds :D [14:07] that would be awesome! [14:07] it depends where it is, and when [14:07] there are many people i would like to finally shake hands with...you, luke, emmet [14:08] maybe even falktx and janne, alessio (both of them!) [14:08] well, maybe we could do some JAM session :D [14:08] yeah, jcastro and jono always seem to do something (usually some metallica) when they get together at the UDS [14:09] :D [14:09] next uds will be in may I asume [14:09] it will be a little hard if it overlays on top of my students exams, but maybe it can be don [14:10] * rlameiro back to writing..... [14:20] oh, rlameiro, i was thinking this morning of various things and people and you were one of them! [14:20] have you happened to make any progress on ubuntustudio-controls by chance? [14:20] that is a point that needs deeps discussion :D [14:21] since most of ubuntustudio controls functionallity is fading away, we should think if it should remain or not [14:21] and if it remains in wich sense [14:22] for instance, will it become on some sort of "HUB" or just a little tool [14:22] I was thinking on something like KXStudio [14:23] A place to config plugin folders, add ppas etc [14:23] since consolekit that much of the config isnt needed anymore [14:25] For me the "hub" aproach seems to be the way we should do it. [14:25] have a central app that will link to the comunity, to FAQs, to how to, etc [14:26] also it could embed a webpage on it detailing workflows etc [14:27] i'm not sure that i agree that most the functionality is fading away [14:27] and you are right that more discussion is needed (or at least desired) [14:28] my opinion is that just because ardour wants unlimited memlock, a user might not be able to afford that (memory wise) and would need to adjust it still [14:28] additionally, i would like to see that ubuntu studio PPA where any kernels are available be listed in studio-controls along with any backports-testing ppa [14:29] you have ideas, i have ideas, others most likely have ideas as well, hopefully we can find a compatible union between them all and implement it [14:29] or them [14:29] yeap, exactly [14:30] but as the only controls functionality lasting is the memlock. [14:31] and i think raw1394 as well, no? [14:31] scott-work: there are some technical decissions that need to be made for this [14:31] for memlock? [14:31] scott-work: no, with the new firewire stack [14:32] about tech decissions are, how will it be implemented [14:32] in GTK or QT? [14:32] http://www.ffado.org/?q=node/1316 [14:32] do you mean this? [14:33] will it be wrong to implement it in Qt? since we already ship qjackctl i dont see why not use QT. [14:33] or should it be GTK to be on line with other ubuntu implementations? [14:33] if it is in Qt, we can "use" some help from Falktx for example [14:34] or even RNCBC (i can try to pull him in) [14:34] i'm not sure what you mean by "how will it be implemented" since i don't use firewire [14:35] since you are mentioning gtk or qt then i am assuming something with a dialouge box [14:35] scott-work: I am talking about the controls, not FW :D [14:35] i tested firewire in the 10.10 and it worked out of the box [14:36] it maybe only my card maybe... dont know [14:38] scott-work: to clarify, i was talking about the technical choices on the ubuntustudio controls development. because that will choose who can help, for instance [14:40] http://video.ubuntu.com/live/ [14:54] Did anybody find out what Sebo wanted from me? [14:54] Sebboh even [16:30] hi.. does Studio 10.10 have gscanbus, for configuring the MAudio firewire solo ? And if so, is it compiled against libgtk2 ? [16:31] Don't know [16:31] I don't use gscanbus [16:32] I think it's deprecated regarding FireWire soundcards [16:32] ffado-test and ffado-diag do all the magic [16:34] oh, interesting. Thanks I'll research that. [16:34] You're welcome. Those tools are in the ffado-tools package [16:35] so is ffado a replacement to freebob ? [16:37] never mind. thanks google :] [18:24] holstein: are you around? [19:09] abogani: have you heard anything from UKT or JFo about getting the -lowlatency kernel into natty? [19:49] morning scott-work :) [19:49] hia paultag ! [19:49] scott-work, how's life? :) [19:49] how are you doing? [19:49] paultag: been real, real busy lately :/ [19:50] scott-work, well, thanks -- I was up late last night doing *nothing*, it was the worst, but I've got my coffee, and doing just fine :) [19:50] scott-work, awww. Anything I can help with, or is it all meatspace stuff? [19:50] non-ubuntu studio stuff unofrtunately [19:50] Shucks [19:50] lol [19:50] :) [19:50] i started updating the seeds for natty this weekend but haven't finished yet, but with UDS going on i don't think it's a big rush anyways [19:51] scott-work, nah [19:51] i doubt than per.sia or the.muso will have time to review it before the weekend [19:51] mmm [19:52] scott-work, is it just the ubuntustudio-meta package? [19:54] scott-work, I've been working on metapackages with germinate lately ( Might try and upload a fluxbox metapackage ) [19:55] paultag: no, it's far more than that [19:55] OK, cool. Then I'm useless :) [19:56] i'll be updating video and graphic seeds, removing the audio seed and then adding audio-common, recording, and generation seeds [19:56] Oh jeez [19:56] the idea to two fold: give the user more control over the audio applications installed and also clear out the cruft of packages installed [19:57] mmhum :) [19:57] i've spent weeks working through things and then documenting the steps i want/need to take, and even then i've overlooked some stuff :P [19:57] i can only imagine how this would have gone had i gone in blindly [19:57] +1 [19:58] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Sandbox#Seeds%20Update [19:58] that's my working notes [19:58] scott-work, sweet. [19:59] and i will need to also update the -meta package to make a transition package for the deprecated audio seed [19:59] [19:59] although, i did think of something [19:59] i was going to talk with astraljava about a backports testing PPA [20:00] the idea would be to create a PPA that ubuntu studio devs use to make backport packages and test them [20:00] scott-work, should be easy enough :) [20:00] then we can alert the official backports persons know about them to get them into the official backports repositories [20:00] scott-work, +1, solid idea [20:00] scott-work, I can help with backporting, if you need more hands [20:01] it's really only in the gestation phase at this moment [20:01] i was hoping that astraljava would pounce on it as well :) [20:01] scott-work, just putting the offer on the table :) [20:01] scott-work: Hi. [20:01] absolutely paultag, the help would be appreciated [20:02] hi astraljava [20:02] i don't know if we want to backport applications for every release or just for the lts version [20:02] i was thinking just the LTS for the time being, which is fortuitous since the last release *was* the LTS release ;) [20:03] Right, works for me. [20:03] astraljava: do you think you could identify some of the applications from maverick that would be good in lucid ? [20:03] scott-work: Absolutely. [20:03] later this week i can make the ppa (or someone else within ubuntustudio-dev in launchpad can) [20:04] scott-work: I can do that too. [20:04] and anyone who wants to help (including you paultag!) can help [20:04] :P [20:04] astraljava: per.sia mentioned that we should focus this ppa on testing backports...so we might call it "backports-testing" or something simiilar [20:04] are we thinking bug reports after the list is all set? [20:05] scott-work: Gotcha. [20:05] paultag: yes, we would want to file bugs to get the backports done properly [20:06] we can do them now, or later when the backport is tested [20:07] I think the normal procedure is to file the bug once you have two testers report already. [20:14] against ubuntu studio? [20:14] I was just thinking logistics for people to prepare stuff for studio testing [20:19] scott-work: hey [20:19] i was busy for a bit there [21:39] paultag: i think it backport bugs have general been filed against ubuntu for any particular package [21:39] you might add ubuntu studio as "Also affect project" however ,but that may not be necessary [21:40] especially if we are the ones spearheading the backports [21:40] [21:40] holstein: would you like to help organizing the website meeting and some other odds and ends [21:40] [21:40] oh, astraljava and paultag, i would defintely be available to help with testing for backports [21:42] scott-work: Noted, but I will most likely send a message to the lists anyway when a package is uploaded. Will let you know separately here, too. [21:42] scott-work, cheers [22:58] i've read that shuttleworth is changing ubuntu desktop away from gnome to unity [22:58] http://blogs.computerworld.com/17224/ubuntu_changes_its_desktop_from_gnome_to_unity [22:58] i wonder how much truth is in this and how it will affect ubuntu studio