=== nhandler_ is now known as nhandler [01:03] Riddell: around? [01:36] udslogger: its KDE4_KDEUI_LIBS [01:36] and where did you go? [01:47] !find kfixx11.h [01:47] Package/file kfixx11.h does not exist in maverick [01:49] !find fixx11h.h [01:49] File fixx11h.h found in kdelibs4-dev, kdelibs5-dev [01:50] !find kwindowsystem.h [01:50] File kwindowsystem.h found in kdelibs5-dev [02:17] shtylman: Oh, Northfield, New Hampshire. :( === nhandler_ is now known as nhandler [02:32] * claydoh|werk should have taken this week off from work instead of next week, and hitchhiked to florida [03:35] thanks shadeslayer === nhandler_ is now known as nhandler [04:08] claydoh: or just requested sponsorship? [04:08] the worst they can say is NO [04:47] and heck, they sponsored ME [04:48] possibly the least-technical person in the room here.... [04:51] valorie: actually the worst is when they don't respond. no would be better than no response at all :) [04:51] valorie: lol you are a much more active person than I am. you deserve the trip [04:52] I did wait quite awhile to be told I was accepted [04:52] you applied and they never responded? [04:52] yes ma'am [04:52] yikes [04:52] expected since i pissed the king off i guess :D [04:52] now I feel like I'm taking your place [04:53] i am useless anyways, so that isn't a place you don't want to take :) [04:53] anyway, nest week was a big dog flyball tournament I was going to attend, but we can't go this year, expenses ran out :( [04:53] that sounds hillbilly as all hell [04:53] nixternal, I linked to your blog [04:53] nixternal: lol you are much loved [04:54] your IRC comments are NOT useless [04:54] the opposite [04:54] claydoh, I have a friend who did flyball with her dog [04:54] just loved it [04:54] had to google flyball, now i know what it is [04:54] she doesn't have the dog anymore though [04:54] :( [04:54] :) I have 2 that do it [04:54] I have mini-dachshunds [04:55] nice [04:55] with the wind and tornados coming tonight, my dog would be able to do flyball [04:55] and the one who would do it (a foot off the ground) [04:55] is now blind and deaf [04:55] tornados? [04:55] :( [04:55] wth? [04:55] weird weather this year [04:55] yeah, chicago and surrounding areas have the 2nd biggest severe outbreak in history on their way [04:55] wow [04:55] California is flooding in places [04:55] they keep telling us to tie shit down, i didn't, figured i would let mother nature clean my yard for me [04:56] we have a wiemaraner and a toy fox terrier, plus a 12 y/o mutt who is a retired agility dog [04:56] I saw in the paper [04:56] and to think, i almost raked leaves the other day [04:56] lol [04:56] heh [04:56] easier to just mow the lawn [04:56] i will be pissed if at least my leaves don't fly away [04:56] let the mower chew em up [04:56] valorie: haha, that's what i do :) [04:56] better for your lawn, really [04:56] lazy is almost always better [04:56] but my niece and nephew like to play in the leaves, so i was going to be a nice uncle [04:56] lol [04:56] got drunk instead :D [04:57] yes, I remember doing that [04:57] with my grandpa [04:57] under the big maple tree [04:57] oh, thought you meant you remembered getting drunk [04:57] i rarely remember getting drunk [04:57] nothing like that crunch [04:57] hahaha [04:57] I remember the last time..... [04:57] after my bike race on sunday, i got drunk...oh and there are plenty of pictures of me drunk [04:57] man that pitcher of margaritas was tasty! [04:58] agave syrup instead of simple syrup [04:58] decent tequila, and fresh squeezed limes [04:59] a bit too delicious [04:59] lol [04:59] http://www.flickr.com/photos/seemann/5113060608/in/set-72157625110266069/ <- that's me on the right getting ready to smack that rider in the ass. adidas hat, sweathshirt, pants, and shoes :) [04:59] holding what, of course a beer [05:00] standing next to a guy dressed up as super woman [05:00] if the margaritas wasn't made with cabo, don julio which isn't really a margarita tokillya, or patron silver, then it wasn't decent :) [05:01] patron should just be sipped [05:01] not mixed with anything [05:01] sorry [05:01] not the silver [05:01] :-) [05:01] anejo ok [05:01] why were you gonna smack that poor guy? [05:01] silver or repasado no way [05:02] that is called heckling. it is part of the sport known as cyclocross. you race, drink beer, and tell the racers they suck, they don't know what they are doing, and you hand them donuts, twizzlers, spaghetti, beer, you name it [05:02] nixternal: one of the nice things about getting older is being able to afford good alcohol [05:02] oh so much fun [05:02] cyclocross always did look more fun [05:02] to me [05:02] more exciting than documentation, I guess [05:03] ;-) [05:03] cabo reposado is the best tequilla for ritas. sipping you can't beat anejos [05:03] * claydoh cant afford booze, not at the prices I see it at now [05:04] good thing I hardly drin [05:04] blancos, platas, jovens, and reposados aren't sipping variants at all...way to young to sip :) [05:04] err drin [05:04] lol [05:04] you are acting like you can afford to drink and have been drinking all night with your speeling there :p [05:05] last bottle I bought was some sort of cheeeep rum, way back in '01 [05:06] best alcohol for sipping is single malt whiskey [05:06] IMO [05:06] though I do buy wine for cooking, and sometimes have a taste [05:06] better to buy wine for drinking, and cook with it too [05:06] truly [05:06] if it isn't good enough to drink, it isn't good enough to cook with either [05:07] yeah, not a whiskey kind of guy, and definitely not a wine type of guy [05:07] * claydoh either needs a less old laptop with a non-wiggly kb, or a fancy smartphone [05:07] * valorie needs to go to bed [05:07] good home-brewed or micro-brewed beers, IPA usually or a nice stout when it is cold, and tequila [05:07] breakfast comes early around here [05:07] regular wine , even cheap assed stuff is better for cooking [05:07] hey DarkwingDuck [05:07] yeah, it is midnight there already [05:07] what are you doing still up? [05:08] who me? [05:08] yup, midnight [05:08] I don't sleep... just ask nixternal [05:08] lol [05:08] you don't want to be late to the start in the morning. they have been known to send people home for being late in the morning [05:08] that's my secret to doing documentation [05:08] work in the night..... [05:08] i am staying up to wait for the tornados [05:08] have camera ready [05:09] with jussi as my roommie I wont get up late [05:09] I had a 20 min nap earlier, but I need the sleep tonight [05:09] debating on heading a little west for some storm chasing, since I can't do shit else tomorrow [05:09] I plan to wait for my wife to doze off soo i can steal her new android phone and play with it [05:09] DarkwingDuck: rgreening was my roommate. you couldn't sleep with his snoring, so you would never be late [05:09] LOL [05:10] Oh yeah... I'm one of three co-leads in the California LoCo now [05:10] cool! [05:10] soon I will be of washington [05:10] at one uds, i did wake up late, but thankfully kwwii had his own vehicle, so we made it there before the UDS bus did :) [05:10] soon as I poke 'em with a sharp stick [05:11] darn Best Buy and their free phone promotions :( the wifey didn't get me one [05:11] I can always show up in my nightgown with no breakfast...... [05:11] nighters all! [05:11] hey nixternal... about the docs. [05:11] what docs? [05:12] we are switching to unity, it is so good it doesn't need to be documented [05:12] how hard would it be to write a script to build the docs? [05:12] * DarkwingDuck barfs [05:12] that or we are mergine with the manual project, so they can do all of the work [05:12] DarkwingDuck: it is called a Makefile, and it is already in the docs :) [05:12] Nononononononononononono [05:12] make all [05:12] you mean package the docs? [05:12] *nods* [05:12] here, let me teach you how to package the docs without translations [05:12] sudo apt-get build-dep kubuntu-docs [05:13] bzr export kubuntu-docs_11.04.tar.gz lp:kubuntu-docs [05:13] tar -xf kubuntu-docs_11.04.tar.gz [05:13] mv kubuntu-docs_11.04 kubuntu-docs-11.04 [05:13] cd kubuntu-docs-11.04 [05:13] dch -i [05:14] fill out the debian changelog [05:14] debuild -S -sa -k$GPGKEY [05:14] cd ../ [05:14] pbuilder-natty build *.dsc [05:14] :) [05:14] That's it? [05:14] you will need to install pbuilder debhelper dh-make lintian cdbs quilt ubuntu-dev-tools pkg-kde-tools [05:14] Awesome. [05:14] DarkwingDuck: yeah, without physically doing it here, that is pretty damn close [05:15] then when you have pbuilder & ubuntu-dev-tools installed [05:15] mkdir ~/bin [05:15] cd ~/bin [05:15] ln -s /usr/bin/pbuilder-dist pbuilder-natty [05:15] pbuilder-natty create [05:15] nixternal: when it comes time, want to coach me through? [05:15] that will build your pbuilder natty environment [05:15] i just did :) [05:15] *nods* [05:15] LOL [05:15] hehe [05:15] It's copied [05:16] i will go through and document it, but I think i am pretty damn close with what i typed to be honest [05:16] the bzr export may be off though [05:16] might have switched the tar.gz and the lp:kubuntu-docs [05:16] Thanks nixternal [05:16] also, $GPGKEY needs to be set in .bashrc, unless you only have one GPG key [05:16] also you need debfullname and debemail set in your .bashrc [05:17] holy hell, ubuntu development is hard :p [05:17] :) [05:17] that was kind of poking fun at persia from one of today's tracks at UDS [05:18] if he reads what I wrote, he will tear it a part with a fine toothed comb [05:18] I liked the bit about steve :D [05:18] if you haven't met him yet DarkwingDuck, you have to. just look for the guy who looks like james bond smoking really expensive cigarettes. he is the coolest most intimidating person in the world! [05:18] the one always in a suit? [05:19] :P [05:19] might not be a suit, but definitely slacks and a jacket, maybe a turtle neck underneath [05:19] Slicked back hair. lol [05:19] yup [05:19] you met him i take it :) [05:19] Oh yeah... cool ass dude [05:19] or was my description just that damn good? [05:19] if we are thinking of the same fellow [05:19] suit, yeah [05:20] and ScottK is the easiest one to pick out, he is the old guy using the walker [05:20] though this year he might be in a HoverRound [05:20] hehehe [05:20] Met all the Kubuntu guys. [05:20] Harold is funnier in real life [05:20] ohh lord, you didn't go in a hot tub did you? [05:20] David -- surname? [05:21] y'all are treading on dangerous ground..... [05:21] * valorie is the oldest kubuntu member! [05:21] LOL [05:21] harald is hilarious [05:21] valorie: ScottK got you beat by 137 years [05:21] rofl [05:21] valorie: oh no, you can't be older than ScottK! you will ruin all of my poking of fun at him [05:22] nixternal: that's the only reason he voted for me! [05:22] watch out for harald, he is cookoo for cocoa puffs [05:22] No kidding... jussi is a bit... off. [05:22] he got my netbook on the net today..... [05:22] Though, he's cool [05:22] and watch out for Riddell. he will have you in a hot tub and the pictures will be on the internet before you even get out of it [05:22] ROFL [05:22] lol [05:22] Good thing I turned it down. [05:22] turning it down doesn't help [05:23] when the tracks are over with for the day, go to dinner with him, get back to the hotel, and hide for the next hour and a half [05:23] once that hour and a half is up, then it is safe to head out of your room [05:23] I never gave him my room number LOL [05:23] he knows your last name [05:23] True [05:24] and getting room numbers from the staff at the hotels they get for UDS, is whicked simple [05:24] Yeah I know. [05:24] especially if he knows your roommate, which of course he does [05:24] so he acts like he is jussi, and booyah, he has your room key [05:24] This is a nice venue though [05:24] been there, done that [05:24] there have been nicer venues. the nicer the venue, the easier it is [05:25] remember, you are there with hackers. part 1 of being a hacker, being a social hacker [05:25] It's all in one place. No busses [05:25] oh damn, so you get to sleep in. so not fair! [05:26] :D [05:26] Hence the reason I'm not worried about being late === muesli_ is now known as muesli [06:00] hi nixternal === hunger_ is now known as hunger === Mamarok_ is now known as Mamarok [11:50] Hello ;D [11:51] why is so quiet here? :D [11:51] I need some community blogs links. If someone can send me some, i'll be thankful :) [12:12] Riddell hey [12:12] Riddell do you have a blog? :D [12:13] one that i can link in the new kubuntu page in 'community blogs' ;) [12:15] sheytan, you could just go through the feeds listed on http://planet.ubuntu.com/ [12:16] al well, but think we need here only kubuntu devs. Ubuntu devs will be linked :) [12:17] Hmm [12:18] sheytan, kubuntu folks are in there too [12:18] e.g. http://www.kdedevelopers.org/blog/57 [12:18] ok, thank you :) [12:22] Huh? [12:53] sheytan: You can get at least three of them by grepping for 'kubuntu' in config.ini bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~planet-ubuntu/config/main/ (my branch is out of date, others my have since been added) ... if you want more, you can just hunt for people's ircnicks in the file (there's a nick = field in each entry). [12:54] Cool, thanks :D [12:55] * ryanakca really ought to blog about that software freedome day stand of his [12:56] 225 fellow uni students were impressed with Kubuntu and took CDs :) [12:58] Only downside is that I got a nice big bill in the mail that needs to be payed by Nov 1st for all of those CDs :( [13:04] hey guys [13:05] how do you like this social integration into the new web page http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/6246/communityblogsmicroblog.jpg [14:12] does kobby crash on load for everyone else? [14:20] * udslogger is sleepy eyes [14:20] s/is/has [14:25] udslogger: what time did you crash last night? [14:25] heh [14:25] 2-ish I think [14:25] udslogger: where are you? bonaire 8? [14:26] in the back, sleeping :P [14:26] :P [14:26] Riddell: i found the issue with lp [14:26] Riddell: look at your screen!!! [14:26] Riddell is not at his computer at the moment. [14:27] meh... [14:27] udslogger: im forwarding you something [14:27] heh udslogger sleeping already? [14:27] shadeslayer: is it a picture of nakkid CIA-96? [14:27] heh [14:27] DarkwingDuck: I do not get what they are talking about is fitting multimedia :P [14:28] whee... kobby crashes again :> [14:28] ...but oh well... [14:28] why do you people use *obby again? :P [14:28] get rid of it, make it die, pirates ftw! [14:29] udslogger: agreed... however, you know how devs are... grasshopper minds and circular arguments... :P:P [14:29] im sure its a network problem now [14:29] couldnt they fix libinifinity instead? [14:29] heh [14:29] udslogger: did you get my mail? [14:30] shadeslayer: I also have a jumpy mouse today [14:30] udslogger: just slide your finger across the touchpad [14:31] itll fix itself in a few mins [14:31] udslogger: however, I heard you fixed valorie netbook last night. [14:31] I am not going to fix yours :P [14:31] lol [14:32] shadeslayer: what do I do with that mail? [14:32] udslogger: not asking you to... just had that question last night about acpi events [14:32] did moving the scripts in the right dir not fix it? [14:32] learned quickly that you are a fan of sarcasm [14:33] udslogger: well... theres a bug against rekonq ... now i know its a KIO issue.... go fix KIO [14:33] Not implemented yet. I'm taking the dev approach [14:33] lol [14:33] When is the doc freeze? I'll change it two days prior. [14:34] hahaha [14:34] 4.5 anyone? [14:34] * DarkwingDuck mutters [14:35] Riddell seems lost [14:35] He looks like he got about 5 minutes of sleep [14:35] shadeslayer: he is up front? [14:35] yeah [14:35] up and to the left. [14:35] ROFL [14:35] udslogger: look on your right [14:35] design fail [14:36] ah [14:36] hahaha [14:36] look on your right, look on your left, i'm on a horse [14:36] :O [14:36] haha [14:36] totally sparta [14:37] shadeslayer: so, I still miss context on the mail [14:37] udslogger: rekonq cant save comments to bugs.lp === ulysses_ is now known as ulysses [14:37] its a issue in KIO [14:37] go fix it [14:37] sure it can [14:37] shadeslayer: also, what is the proof that it is kio? [14:38] udslogger: because benjamin says that it worked with webkit 2.1 but not when he used it with KIO [14:38] that is no sufficient reason [14:38] there is a bunch of other stuff that could be at fault [14:39] such as? [14:39] butterflies [14:39] ryanakca: fancy making a manpage ? [14:39] heh [14:39] GLUE ... hahaha [14:40] shadeslayer: do not make others waste time :P [14:40] see that is why im not making one [14:40] 25 people in the room, 25 computers and they are using a damn marker for an argument. :P [14:40] maco: where are you? [14:40] shadeslayer: i left the qt one because it was all opengl not the phonon stuff i expected and headed over to kernel [14:41] maco: I still have yet to meet... [14:41] ^ me too [14:41] where are you shadeslayer? I know youre in the room [14:42] :P [14:42] im in the 3rd Row [14:42] HAHAHA I'm effing blind [14:42] maco: there is more phonon in the kernel session? [14:42] lol [14:42] shadeslayer: lets go kernel [14:42] for 5 more minutes? [14:43] hmm.. well... im pretty lost either way [14:43] DarkwingDuck: I draw whole class diagrams manually [14:44] udslogger: aye... I prefer chalk [14:44] I wonder why they have no chalk here... [14:44] someone should give Riddell some coffee [14:44] shadeslayer: well, the stuff they are talking about surely does not help ^^ [14:44] or something... he looks like he is in bad shape. [14:45] so, where is udslogger going after this cuteness [14:45] I'm going outside for some "fresh" air. [14:46] shadeslayer: I would talk to dfaure about it, or generally throw it out on #kde-devel [14:46] :S [14:46] udslogger: #kde-devel isnt nice [14:46] whoot... upstream [14:46] in matters pertaning to rekonq [14:46] upstream downstream sidestream whipped cream [14:47] shadeslayer: I wonder why that is [14:47] *pertaining [14:47] ... [14:47] clearly there is no reason for it [14:47] hey now, I don't need to know your fantasies... [14:47] lol [14:47] lol [14:47] Holy mother of god... https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Packaging [14:47] this sessions is way too interesting [14:48] circular arguments [14:48] :O [14:48] the wiki is where you put content to die [14:48] yeah, my favorite is the bullet with ... [14:49] and that is it. [14:49] https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/GettingInvolved/Development [14:49] DarkwingDuck: redirect that page there [14:50] aye [14:51] udslogger: how you going to tell me to forward it while you were editing it??? LOL [14:51] I am not editing it [14:51] !!! [14:51] moinmoin is made out of python [14:51] erm [14:51] shit [14:51] ... [14:51] This page was opened for editing or last previewed at 2010-10-26 05:48:34 by Harald Sitter. [14:51] You should refrain from editing this page for at least another 7 minute(s), to avoid editing conflicts. [14:52] DarkwingDuck: http://moinmo.in/HelpOnProcessingInstructions#A.23redirect [14:52] Unless there is another Harald Sitter out there. [14:52] well [14:52] I am not editing it [14:52] ... [14:52] Okay [15:00] udslogger: where are you? [15:03] shadeslayer: what issue with lp did you find? [15:03] Riddell: seems like a KIO issue because the XHR is compressed [15:04] ill forward you the mail [15:04] Riddell: come over to antigua 1, Debian Health Check [15:05] I'm in a top secret Qt meeting [15:05] ah ... [15:05] its not top secret anymore :P [15:06] Riddell: secret eh? [15:06] also... [15:06] Qt Private Meeting ... fancy [15:06] wiki.ubuntu.com/ShtylmansPapercuts [15:06] ScottK: ^ [15:06] I started outlining some random ideas [15:06] Riddell: who else is there? [15:06] Cool. [15:06] or complaints.. things I think we can polish with default settings or whatnot [15:07] oh oh oh [15:07] shtylman: Qt people, Linaro people, canonical people [15:07] feel free to give feedback on the page [15:07] Riddell: :) [15:07] what is linaro? [15:07] a build toolkit? [15:07] ScottK: Riddell did you guys register the rekonq improvements blueprint ? [15:07] I tried to google for them [15:07] but it is vague [15:07] ScottK: linux on ARM [15:07] see shtylman that's why you shouldn't disappear for a cycle, you miss everything :) [15:07] shadeslayer: You were going to do it. [15:08] (rekonq) [15:08] Riddell: yea... :( [15:08] ScottK: i thought you guys were going to do it :PO [15:08] ill make one [15:08] it is sadness [15:09] shadeslayer: rekonq scheduled for tomorrow morning [15:09] ah kool [15:10] figured some of those points I put on the wiki can go into the kubuntu natty coding meeting [15:10] Riddell: why there are so few kubuntu session this time? :P [15:10] *sessions [15:11] dantti_work: i have a bug for you [15:11] hold on [15:11] oh noes :P [15:12] * dantti_work leaving... [15:12] nooo [15:12] lol [15:12] dantti_work: well in developer tools section, you can edit the top bar which has "Debugging" etc [15:13] shadeslayer: edit how? [15:13] i could eariler double click and edit "Debugging" to "ZOMG" [15:14] right now... i cant reproduce it [15:14] ah right, again double click problems [15:14] did the samba sharing stuff make it in? [15:14] for natty [15:14] shadeslayer: the fix is easy, not sure it worth a new package right now.. [15:16] dantti_work: http://imgur.com/Zm2gy [15:16] I really need to get my ssh server back online. [15:16] where are all of you? :P [15:16] shadeslayer: yes I see I can reproduce it [15:17] I'm out in a wall fixing my sys [15:17] dantti_work: ok, just wanted to make sure you know about it [15:18] it doesnt warrant a new package [15:20] shadeslayer: btw I got a bounch of bugs about kpackagekitsmarticon crashing, but I can't reproduce it, and the backtrace shows a bug probably in kdelibs, are you having them? [15:20] udslogger: really?? All the cool kids are doing it? ROFL [15:20] dantti_work: how do i reproduce it? [15:21] shadeslayer: It just happens, after a while, have you never saw it? [15:21] cause I can't see it crashing too :/ [15:21] hmm .. i dont use kpk alot, but i havent had a randomn crash [15:21] dantti_work: maybe ask reporter to try KDE 4.5.2 ? [15:22] shadeslayer: http://pastebin.com/gD3ta2Ub [15:22] this fix your double click bug === sheytan_ is now known as sheytan [15:23] ah [15:24] udslogger: I see you're a packaging tutor... :P [15:24] I am the master [15:25] ... [15:25] dantti_work: we have a fair number of sessions. the natty packaging and natty coding are the most all encompasing ones and we may well have to have one or two more of those to cover everything [15:25] good, I know who to bug when I break... erm... have questions. [15:25] dantti_work: anything you'd like to discuss? [15:27] Riddell: don't have anything in mind, unless kpk changes aren't being well accepted (which seems not to be the case) [15:27] Riddell: btw I have a bug about the kubuntu distro updater not scrolling the terminal, where do I assign it? [15:34] :O [15:34] kobby!!!!! [15:35] // Create and initialive a new browser [15:40] 0_o [15:40] udslogger: wha ... [15:42] no wonder it crashes [15:42] it initialives variables [15:42] dantti_work: feedback from kpk is all good that I've seen, people love it [15:42] what if it does not want to be initalived [15:43] dantti_work: bugs on dist upgrade tool on launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager [15:43] Riddell, dantti_work: they have all sorts of ideas for software center [15:43] Riddell: good to hear :D I guess I'll work on finishing printer-manager [15:43] dantti_work: that was my next question :) [15:45] Riddell: I'm out to lunch, but about it I guess it does'nt misses too many things [15:45] yay [15:45] * udslogger fixed kobby [15:46] If anyone is interested, this is a todo list of what's left to make the new Kubuntu page complete http://pastebin.com/ZmEBWu5v :D:D [15:47] udslogger: ppa? [15:47] not production quality fixe [15:47] in fact it is more of a workaround :P [15:47] and the bug is coming from the network connection [15:47] We have a posted workaround then? [15:47] preventing kobby from adding the default connections fixes the crash [15:48] ? [15:48] I can't even get hat far into kobby [15:48] *Get that [15:59] shadeslayer hey ;) [15:59] hey :) [15:59] shadeslayer i can't find that neon ppa with kde 4.6 for maverick. I found only an old [16:00] sheytan: yeah ... we havent finished yet... but its in launchpad.net/~neon [16:00] Riddell: you going to the qt gesture thing? [16:01] shadeslayer does it mean, the packages aren't uploaded yet? [16:01] can someone who is not at uds please fire up gobby (with kdebugdialog turned on for everything) and paste me the output? [16:01] pretty please :) [16:01] there are packages... [16:01] sigh... [16:02] udslogger: what server params? [16:02] shadeslayer, sorry, now i see them :) [16:02] thank you :d [16:06] shtylman: none, random, whatever [16:08] udslogger: there was no output [16:08] gobby is a gtk app [16:08] oh [16:08] ehm [16:08] kobby [16:08] sry [16:09] app-with-crappy-name [16:09] udslogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/520214/ [16:10] cheers [16:10] :O [16:10] * udslogger thinks our qinfinity is not built with dbg [16:11] ryanakca: ^^^^^ [16:12] shtylman: yes here now [16:12] any juicy gossip? :p [16:13] unity is going all qt isn't it :) [16:13] ;) [16:13] okhe [16:13] here is the deal [16:13] apparently kobby gets 2 connections [16:13] with at least the same name [16:13] random guess: they are the same connection [16:13] random guess #2: trying to setup 2 connections that are really one crashes libinfinity [16:16] udslogger: fixing kobby? [16:17] more like breaking it [16:21] shadeslayer hey, is there a magic command to install kde from neon? I'm on Ubuntu [16:21] sheytan: nope, just add ppa -> install project-neon meta package [16:22] but its not ready yet [16:22] shadeslayer does it means i can't install it now? :D [16:23] you can probably install it, but idk if you can start it and such from KDM [16:23] you can probably start it from a tty [16:23] shadeslayer "This metapackage includes all packages provided by the neon project." is it this package? :D [16:23] yeah [16:23] ok, thank y ou :) [16:27] udslogger: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/appdevs-kubuntu-n-rekonq-wishlist [16:27] is it youtube? [16:27] I only will open youtube videos today [16:27] for I am fedoralogger today [16:27] muhahahaha [16:28] yes, its a youtube vid [16:28] :P [16:29] THAT DOES NOT MAKE NO SENSE [16:29] STUPID KOBBY [16:30] technically that is a double negative [16:30] meaning it makes sense [16:31] shtylman: you are fortunate enough to not be at uds because right now you would have scored a day of sarcasm [16:32] lol [16:32] uh [16:32] ah [16:32] eh [16:32] uhm [16:32] ahhhh [16:32] eeeh [16:32] brrrr [16:32] \o/ [16:33] heh [16:36] well then [16:36] here is the complete research [16:37] Riddell: where did you go? [16:37] a) kobby gets 2 signals that leads to it adding 2 connections [16:37] b) libinfinity does not like 2 signals (probably becuase they have the same name) and crashes [16:38] c) those 2 signals have the same name because they are essentially the same except one is ipv4 and one ipv6 [16:38] so this is a bit of a horrible thing... [16:39] udslogger: the local connections? [16:39] b) should simply not lead to a crash and c) probably needs to be resolved [16:39] ah, right, local connections those are [16:39] shadeslayer: Writing a manpage for ... ? [16:39] ryanakca: WMIface [16:39] discoveredd via dnssd [16:39] its on kde-apps.org [16:39] aka avahi [16:39] shadeslayer: Ah, never used it. Can't write documentation for an app I haven't used :) [16:39] ryanakca: you go poke upstream ^^^^^^^ [16:40] awww [16:40] there is a pile of crap going all awoga on kobby [16:40] shadeslayer: use help2man.pl or kde2man.pl or whatever it is. It's in the kdesdk package iirc [16:40] * udslogger ppas workaround [16:40] mgraesslin: ^^ your app wont get packaged because ryanakca wont write a man page :P [16:40] lol [16:40] a man page for that app? [16:40] mgraesslin: yes... the WMIface app, its done, just needs a man page [16:41] see README not enought? [16:41] it needs to be lintian clean, else udslogger will eat me for lunch [16:43] udslogger: You can file all of your Kobby bugs on bugs.kde.org [16:43] ryanakca: there is one [16:44] from may [16:44] not triaged [16:44] no nothing [16:44] kobby is the shit [16:44] I shall create my own solution [16:44] shadeslayer: back to the top secret Qt meeting [16:44] ah [16:45] Riddell: did you see the mail i sent you? [16:45] udslogger: I'm not sure upstream is still maintaining it, now that I look at it, my merge request from April is still sitting there, no commits since 2010-04-09. [16:45] shadeslayer: what's an XHR? [16:45] cool [16:46] I request that we shall not use legcay software [16:46] Riddell: XML Http Request, just google it :P [16:47] ah [16:47] it handles form submission and stuff [16:47] so naughty kio [16:47] Riddell: are you gonna make it to the coding metting? [16:47] shtylman: yes [16:47] kk [16:47] 2 Riddell's are enough for world domination :> [16:47] no secret mettings after this one? [16:47] udslogger: If you want to fork Kobby and give me new upstream releases, I'll gladly update my packages in Debian :) [16:47] Riddell: its the X of AJAX! [16:47] mgraesslin: http://community.kde.org/Plasma/Tasks#Window_List_Plasmoid << the stuff i was talking about yesterday [16:48] I want it to go away [16:48] xml is teh suck [16:48] json all the way!! [16:48] udslogger: I think upstream may have lost interest because nobody was using it... [16:48] I mean come on [16:48] a software that requires server and client apps? [16:48] in the times where my office suite is running in a flipping browser [16:48] maco: yay, buzzwords that don't match to anything in reality! [16:48] that is like us using CDs as primary distribution media [16:48] oh [16:48] hold on [16:48] ... [16:49] ryanakca: well of course no one was using it, IT IS CRASHING :P [16:49] haha :) [16:49] who would use it in this day and age with internet!! [16:49] doesn't make sense [16:49] rofl... the face udslogger was just making [16:50] udslogger: Well, if you don't like it, I guess you could always go back to Gobby, with it's pretty GTK interface and what not :P [16:50] ^^ just use gobby + oxygen-gtk [16:51] shadeslayer: but you had the lp bug comment problem in arora too no? and that doesn't use kioslaves [16:52] hmm [16:53] we should not use gobby or kobby for flobby or butterfly unicorn rainbow monster [16:53] Riddell: its working with arora now, which is weird ... it wasnt working the last time [16:53] we should use a solution that runs in a browser [16:53] period <--- [16:53] piratepad! [17:04] shadeslayer hmm, startkde doesn't work. any ideas? :D [17:04] sheytan: its installed in /opt/neon [17:04] so the path will be different [17:05] ok, thanks [17:07] sheytan: please do tell us if it works :) [17:13] udslogger: filed a bug? [17:14] udslogger: ah wait there was no need eh? [17:15] * dasKreech catches up [17:47] hi Riddell [17:47] * dasKreech waves at rickspencer3 as well [17:47] hi dasKreech [17:48] Was there a list of criteria for Koffice to be considered up to muster? [17:49] ScottK or Riddell: when you can, please move kdebase from binary new (due to libkonq5 -> libkonq5a), thanks [17:57] btw, any of you noticing that the "view" button in notifications for quassel dont take you to the channel/pm if quassel is already focused when the notification pops up? [18:15] Isn't there a payed job for my from canonical? :D Can't find anything in my city :// [18:54] sheytan: you work remotely [18:54] maco: where are you! [18:54] yeah [18:54] i have to empty half my bag :P [18:55] Riddell: I am gonna listen in on the artwork session [18:55] sheytan: ^ (iirc you also do artwork) [18:57] yes, ido :) [19:02] udslogger: are you in the plenary? [19:02] yes [19:02] I am the master! [19:02] where? [19:03] in the front [19:03] EXTERMINATE!!!!!!!! [19:03] udslogger: come back a bit [19:03] * udslogger notifies shtylman [19:03] shadeslayer: no [19:03] why? [19:03] -.- [19:03] lulz [19:03] I do not want too far for my panda [19:03] not worth it [19:04] udslogger: because your minion demands it! [19:04] :O [19:04] that is way out of line [19:05] * udslogger setups a notification to alert about that [19:06] everyone please sit down [19:07] no pandas today :( [19:07] booooo [19:08] interesting: http://labs.qt.nokia.com/2010/10/26/qt-is-going-modular/ [19:11] hmm [19:11] that is not news... [19:12] interesting [19:14] udslogger: well it was predictable, but it's a news written today :P [19:15] it is not news @uds :P [19:15] heh [19:15] some of us aren't at uds :) [19:22] that is surely not my fault :P [19:23] kobby kobby kobby [19:23] udslogger: I will hate the word kobby after this. [19:24] udslogger: http://community.kde.org/GoogleCodeIn/2010/Ideas add tasks if you have any [19:24] udslogger: you can dent the main dev (hopefully not in a 40 char fir of anger) [19:24] * Nightrose goes to visit palo alto [19:24] Nightrose: I alraedy thought a bit about it, somehow I do only have complex crap on my mind ^^ [19:25] heh [19:25] damn [19:25] * Nightrose vanishes - hf in florida [19:25] whos idea was it to have a rekonq wishlist? [19:38] WHAT THE FISH [19:38] there is a function [19:38] that function returns a pointer [19:38] the functions is part of a standalone library [19:39] then mr kobby comes and says, oh well, surely that pointer is never going to be 0, because right now it is not going to be 0, lets just not implement error handling for getting a null pointer [19:39] ... [19:39] * udslogger needs to throw up [19:42] ok [19:42] * udslogger doesnt wanna no moar [20:08] shadeslayer: I broke your browser software :P [20:10] :P [20:16] udslogger: STOP MESSING WITH IT [20:23] ok [20:26] sheytan: btw, the gear in the background of the one template slide is not visible on a projected version [20:26] like not at all [20:26] udslogger well, we've got the 2nd version. Without the logo ;) [20:27] yeah, just thinking, maybe we should just remove it altogether [20:27] all others work very well [20:42] shtylman: I just got like 3 notifications all at once [20:42] .... [20:42] battery being low [20:42] effects being off [20:42] and something else I did not get to see [20:43] sigh [20:44] why must life go on like this [21:09] i've got something for you guys :D [21:09] udslogger well, we can :) Just leave the one with gray fotter :D [21:10] hey, check this out http://sheytan-files.xt.pl/kubuntu-ad.mp4 [21:14] Bringing Kubuntu on Ubuntu One to fruition >>>> i started a team on LP called KubuntuOne, with the membership open (at least for now): https://launchpad.net/~kubuntuone udslogger / apachelogger said he'd consult to help it happen. [21:20] Riddell: where are you? [21:21] shadeslayer: outside bonaire 1 [21:22] Riddell: why? were in Curacao 1 [21:22] shadeslayer: oh that got delayed on hour [21:22] press F5 [21:23] lol [21:30] :P [21:31] udslogger: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116682 [21:31] KDE bug 116682 in general "Support fingerprint reader login in kdm" [Wishlist,New] [21:31] Riddell: I'm glad if you can "push the button" to move kdebase from binary new....please :P [21:31] udslogger: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_enable_the_fingerprint_reader_with_ThinkFinger#KDE [21:31] maco: where are you? need to talk [21:32] Sput: http://aplg.kollide.net/images/avatar/snapshot81.png [21:32] shadeslayer: im in kernel session [21:32] did you ever see that? [21:32] oh my [21:32] I was like messing with zoom and now my quassel is all broken [21:32] shadeslayer: bonaire1 [21:32] maco: ok ill meet you at 6 when everything is over then [21:32] Riddell, qt patch review session finished? [21:32] udslogger: that is as broken as rekonq [21:33] Lex79: onto it [21:33] freeflying: post poned [21:33] freeflying: delayed until next hour [21:33] thanks [21:33] shadeslayer, Riddell thanks [21:34] shadeslayer: afraid of kernel folks? [21:36] Sput: apparently my text column was right underneath the timestamp column.... [21:36] sorta strange [21:38] Lex79: accepted [21:38] thanks :) [21:46] hey guys. Like my ad? :D [21:50] sheytan, what is that [21:51] freeflying http://sheytan-files.xt.pl/kubuntu-ad.mp4 [21:53] sheytan, should it be "the way you want" [21:55] freeflying damn. yes, it should :D [21:55] sorry [21:55] will fix it :D [21:55] sheytan, good job :) [21:56] freeflying thank you :) [21:58] http://pastebin.com/FmnjA0ia [22:04] sheytan: dude, fix the file mimetype [22:05] shadeslayer you mean? [22:05] Length: unspecified [text/html] << from wget output [22:05] text/html for a mp4 ... NOT GOOD [22:11] That would explain why rekonq keeps spitting garbage [22:11] and curl gets me a javascript output [22:33] fabo: ping [22:34] fabo: if you're around join us in #ubuntu-uds-curacao12 [22:55] JontheEchidna: hi! [22:55] hi [22:55] how are you? [22:55] pretty good [22:58] JontheEchidna: Who is in charge of the weather desktop now? [22:58] I still take care of it so that it doesn't completely break or anything [23:10] ok [23:10] Does it use the Weather dataengine? [23:11] dasKreech: Yep [23:11] in fact, the weather wallpaper was what prompted support for dataengine use in wallpaper plugins [23:13] That's what I was trying to remember [23:13] thanks [23:48] [muon] jmthomas * 1190098 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/muon/FilterWidget.cpp SVN_SILENT: Style fixes