| LPCIBot | Project devel build (151): STILL FAILING in 3 hr 37 min: https://hudson.wedontsleep.org/job/devel/151/ | 00:05 |
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| LPCIBot | Launchpad Patch Queue Manager: [r=abentley][ui=none][bug=620615, | 00:05 |
| LPCIBot | 659078] change Launchpad to use Storm 0.18 | 00:05 |
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| wallyworld | thumper: they can suck, you just have to know how to tune them :-) i think storm may not be as advanced as say hibernate in this area | 00:25 |
| thumper | wallyworld: I'm attacking a place in the code where there is simplistic thinking | 00:25 |
| wallyworld | hibernate has all sorts of goodies, including support for batch updates and mixing native sql with it's object query language (HQL) | 00:25 |
| thumper | wallyworld: so does storm | 00:25 |
| * wallyworld needs to learn more storm | 00:26 | |
| * wallyworld wonders, does storm support per query fetching strategies and pre-fetch sizes, or lazy instantiation of collections? | 00:28 | |
| thumper | wallyworld: kinda | 00:37 |
| wallyworld | it's stuff like all that which is needed to properly tune one's app of course | 00:38 |
| LPCIBot | Project db-devel build (98): SUCCESS in 3 hr 37 min: https://hudson.wedontsleep.org/job/db-devel/98/ | 00:39 |
| LPCIBot | Launchpad Patch Queue Manager: [rs=thumper][ui=none][no-qa] Manual merge of stable into db-devel. | 00:39 |
| wallyworld | hey thumper, i'm likely the last to realise - i suppose you know about http://blogs.computerworld.com/17224/ubuntu_changes_its_desktop_from_gnome_to_unity | 00:40 |
| thumper | no | 00:40 |
| wallyworld | someone emailed it to me | 00:40 |
| * wallyworld gets out the tissues and blubbers over how unloved KDE is :-( | 00:43 | |
| jcsackett | wallyworld: if it helps, i know in OS X circled KDE 4 got serious circulation. :-P | 00:43 |
| jcsackett | s/circled/circles/ | 00:44 |
| wallyworld | it would help more if KDE had more support on Ubuntu :-) | 00:44 |
| wallyworld | at least maybe there's a growing realisation that Qt is good. one step forward... | 00:46 |
| jcsackett | it helps that Qts license situation got cleaned up. | 00:47 |
| jcsackett | (or the FUD around it got cleaned up; whatever your preference might be) | 00:47 |
| wallyworld | jcsackett: same thing really, given the impact it had... | 00:49 |
| jcsackett | wallyworld: fair point. | 00:49 |
| jcsackett | wallyworld: these days i'm a wmii man, if you want to talk no love. :-D | 00:51 |
| wallyworld | :-) | 00:51 |
| * thumper afk for walk to shops and lunch | 00:53 | |
| maxb | Does anyone have any idea why ~vcs-imports is associated with https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~brian-rogers/gnome-power/report-percentage/+merge/39329 ? | 01:19 |
| jelmer | maxb, it's probably the default reviewer for some reason | 01:19 |
| * thumper needs coffee badly | 02:08 | |
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| * thumper has coffee and is screaming at his screen | 02:25 | |
| * thumper dodges a tumbleweed | 02:25 | |
| thumper | why is that damn test being run twice? | 02:26 |
| thumper | lifeless: ping | 02:26 |
| * wgrant rolls some more tumbleweed in. | 02:26 | |
| lifeless | hi | 02:26 |
| wgrant | It's not one of those tests which is confusingly run with the same name for several object types? | 02:26 |
| thumper | lifeless: when running a doc test with "bin/test -vvt message-holds-xmlrpc.txt" it runs twice | 02:27 |
| thumper | lifeless: any idea? | 02:27 |
| thumper | lifeless: btw, this will fix the mailman xmlrpc call when it makes 5000 database calls | 02:27 |
| lifeless | nice | 02:28 |
| lifeless | what causes that ? | 02:28 |
| thumper | simplistic iteration over a large result set | 02:28 |
| lifeless | lack of eager loading ? | 02:28 |
| thumper | and silly logic | 02:29 |
| * thumper is enfixorating | 02:29 | |
| thumper | I'm changing it slightly | 02:29 |
| thumper | so will just do 6 | 02:29 |
| thumper | I could attempt to make it 2, but I don't see the benefit for that | 02:29 |
| thumper | the logic would be harder to follow if I did | 02:29 |
| thumper | 5000 -> 6 is much better | 02:30 |
| lifeless | I think 6 queries is fine ;) | 02:30 |
| lifeless | sometimes less is worse too | 02:30 |
| lifeless | depending on the related data density | 02:30 |
| rockstar | deryck, lp:~rockstar/launchpad/javascript-refresh | 02:30 |
| thumper | lifeless: this one: OOPS 1758XMLP341 | 02:31 |
| lifeless | nice | 02:32 |
| lifeless | thumper: I see the double run in trunk | 02:34 |
| lifeless | thumper: its being loaded twice by whatever module constructs it | 02:34 |
| thumper | lifeless: is it all doc tests or just some? | 02:34 |
| lifeless | lp/registry/tests/test_doc.py | 02:34 |
| lifeless | will be a buglet in there | 02:35 |
| lifeless | ignore for this branch IMO | 02:35 |
| thumper | ok | 02:36 |
| thumper | lifeless: are you going to file a bug for it? | 02:36 |
| thumper | lifeless: if it is simple, I could fix in this branch | 02:36 |
| lifeless | its late + jetlag | 02:36 |
| lifeless | I haven't looked | 02:37 |
| thumper | lifeless: ah, it seems to have two different setup methods | 02:38 |
| thumper | lifeless: so it is testing things twice | 02:38 |
| thumper | one with the real mailinglist api and another with a fake | 02:39 |
| jcsackett | thumper: you mean it's doing two tests in one via diff setUps? | 02:51 |
| thumper | kinda | 02:51 |
| * jcsackett pulls up code. | 02:52 | |
| jcsackett | or not; i forgot my dev machine doesn't multitask well when updating. | 02:53 |
| jcsackett | and here i thought i might be helpful. this is a test in registry? | 02:53 |
| thumper | it is, and there isn't a problem | 02:54 |
| thumper | just my misunderstanding | 02:54 |
| jcsackett | thumper: ah, dig. | 02:55 |
| * wgrant WTFs at launchpad-users. | 03:03 | |
| lifeless | oh? | 03:04 |
| wgrant | The last email to it. | 03:04 |
| lifeless | on oct 15th? | 03:05 |
| wgrant | About 47 minutes ago. | 03:05 |
| lifeless | swiss branded watches? | 03:06 |
| jcsackett | chain letter about returning vets, looks like. | 03:06 |
| wgrant | It looks like it. | 03:07 |
| jcsackett | that does seem about as Off-topic as you're going to get... | 03:07 |
| lifeless | \o/ edge bye bye | 03:07 |
| wgrant | :( poor edge | 03:07 |
| lifeless | hah | 03:09 |
| jcsackett | i had only just met poor edge. | 03:10 |
| bac | wgrant: the previous one about getting mugged in KL was mighty off topic too | 03:10 |
| * wgrant remembers back when it was 'beta', restricted access, and had the shiny new UI. | 03:10 | |
| wgrant | bac: Ah yeah, I forgot about that one. | 03:10 |
| jcsackett | bac: that one is however the result of a compromised account. | 03:14 |
| jcsackett | my sister had some people get into her yahoo account a few months back and received (nearly) word for word that email. it's apparently a pretty popular scam. | 03:14 |
| thumper | lifeless: has edge gone? | 03:23 |
| wgrant | Heh. I was about to ask if someone had turned off the redirect. | 03:23 |
| * thumper imagines some people getting a little miffed at no recipes ... | 03:23 | |
| wgrant | Then I noticed the last rev. | 03:23 |
| EdwinGrubbs | thumper: ping | 03:41 |
| thumper | EdwinGrubbs: hi | 03:41 |
| LPCIBot | Yippie, build fixed! | 03:42 |
| LPCIBot | Project devel build (152): FIXED in 3 hr 37 min: https://hudson.wedontsleep.org/job/devel/152/ | 03:42 |
| LPCIBot | * Launchpad Patch Queue Manager: [r=lifeless][ui=none][no-qa] Refactor page-performance-report to use | 03:42 |
| LPCIBot | less memory by using a SQLite3 db to hold the requests and | 03:42 |
| LPCIBot | generating statistics for only one key at a time. | 03:42 |
| LPCIBot | * Launchpad Patch Queue Manager: [r=henninge][ui=none][bug=659085] Remove | 03:42 |
| LPCIBot | getBugNotificationRecipients() | 03:42 |
| LPCIBot | * Launchpad Patch Queue Manager: [r=henninge][ui=none][bug=628762] Ditch property cache adapters in | 03:42 |
| LPCIBot | favour of plain old Python. The IPropertyCache adapter is | 03:42 |
| LPCIBot | replaced by get_property_cache() and the IPropertyCacheManager | 03:42 |
| LPCIBot | adapter is replaced by clear_property_cache(). | 03:42 |
| wgrant | ! | 03:42 |
| thumper | now that is a bit of IRC spam | 03:43 |
| wgrant | Does this mean we are green? | 03:43 |
| wgrant | Yes! | 03:43 |
| wgrant | Both are green! | 03:43 |
| wgrant | For the first time! | 03:43 |
| EdwinGrubbs | thumper: according to bzr annotate, you worked on canonical.launchpad.webapp.sorting.sorted_version_numbers. I'm wondering why you the numbers are sorted in the reverse order as the letters. For example, [3, 2, 1, A, B, C], which looks wrong if a version combines letters and numbers like [5a, 4a, 3a, 3b, 3c]. | 03:43 |
| thumper | holy crap that is quite a while ago... | 03:44 |
| EdwinGrubbs | thumper: I'm in the process of moving the sorting into the db so that the results can be batched. It looks like this is just used for the productseries. | 03:44 |
| thumper | EdwinGrubbs: I think the reasoning was we wanted newer version numbers first | 03:44 |
| EdwinGrubbs | thumper: ok, so there shouldn't be a problem in making the letters sort descending like the numbers? | 03:45 |
| thumper | ahh... | 03:45 |
| thumper | find out where it's used forst | 03:45 |
| thumper | first | 03:45 |
| thumper | I really don't remember | 03:45 |
| EdwinGrubbs | thumper: so far, it looks like it is just used for https://qastaging.launchpad.net/launchpad/+series | 03:46 |
| EdwinGrubbs | but I'll double check with sinzui | 03:46 |
| thumper | EdwinGrubbs: in which case it is all yours :) | 03:46 |
| thumper | who whatever you like | 03:46 |
| thumper | s/who/do/ | 03:46 |
| EdwinGrubbs | thanks | 03:46 |
| LPCIBot | Project db-devel build (99): FAILURE in 3 hr 39 min: https://hudson.wedontsleep.org/job/db-devel/99/ | 04:18 |
| LPCIBot | * Launchpad Patch Queue Manager: [rs=buildbot-poller] automatic merge from stable. Revisions: 11791 | 04:18 |
| LPCIBot | included. | 04:18 |
| LPCIBot | * Launchpad Patch Queue Manager: [r=henninge][ui=none][no-qa] Fix the models and accompanying tests | 04:18 |
| LPCIBot | for Branch Merge Queues to use the secured utilities, etc. | 04:18 |
| rockstar | How does launchpad not depend on beautiful soup anymore? | 04:27 |
| thumper | rockstar: eh? | 04:53 |
| rockstar | thumper, launchpad used to use beautiful soup a lot, but apparently it doesn't anymore. | 04:54 |
| thumper | ah ... | 04:54 |
| thumper | really? | 04:54 |
| rockstar | Also, I SHOULD go to bed, but deryck and I is watching teh football. | 04:54 |
| rockstar | thumper, yeah, I just added soupmatchers to Launchpad and it needed BeautifulSoup. | 04:54 |
| thumper | rockstar: still used by canonical.launchpad.testing.pages | 04:55 |
| thumper | rockstar: it may be an egg | 04:55 |
| rockstar | thumper, no, it wasn't in versions.cfg or setup.py | 04:55 |
| rockstar | Weird. | 04:55 |
| rockstar | At least, buildout couldn't find it, even when I just installed the package. | 04:56 |
| thumper | rockstar: it is LP telling you to sleep | 04:57 |
| thumper | :) | 04:57 |
| rockstar | thumper, probably. | 04:57 |
| bac | matsubara-afk: ping me when you arrive | 05:49 |
| bac | rockstar: who is playing? | 05:49 |
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| LPCIBot | Project devel build (153): FAILURE in 3 hr 38 min: https://hudson.wedontsleep.org/job/devel/153/ | 07:21 |
| LPCIBot | * Launchpad Patch Queue Manager: [r=julian-edwards][ui=none][bug=662912][incr] Add diagnostics for bug | 07:21 |
| LPCIBot | 662912 | 07:21 |
| LPCIBot | * Launchpad Patch Queue Manager: [r=henninge][ui=none][no-qa] Remove the beta redirect and is_edge facilities. | 07:21 |
| LPCIBot | Yippie, build fixed! | 07:53 |
| LPCIBot | Project db-devel build (100): FIXED in 3 hr 34 min: https://hudson.wedontsleep.org/job/db-devel/100/ | 07:53 |
| LPCIBot | Launchpad Patch Queue Manager: [rs=buildbot-poller] automatic merge from stable. Revisions: 11792 | 07:53 |
| LPCIBot | included. | 07:53 |
| al-maisan | Hello! I cannot push branches to launchpad. Can somebody please look into this? | 08:12 |
| al-maisan | Here's the error I get: $ bzr push | 08:13 |
| al-maisan | Using saved push location: bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~al-maisan/landscape/edit-computer | 08:13 |
| al-maisan | Traceback (most recent call last): | 08:13 |
| al-maisan | File "/srv/bazaar.launchpad.net/production/launchpad-rev-9885/eggs/bzr-2.2.0-py2.6-linux-x86_64.egg/EGG-INFO/scripts/bzr", line 140, in <module> | 08:13 |
| al-maisan | exit_val = bzrlib.commands.main() | 08:13 |
| al-maisan | File "/srv/bazaar.launchpad.net/production/launchpad-rev-9885/eggs/bzr-2.2.0-py2.6-linux-x86_64.egg/bzrlib/commands.py", line 1191, in main | 08:13 |
| al-maisan | _register_builtin_commands() | 08:13 |
| al-maisan | File "/srv/bazaar.launchpad.net/production/launchpad-rev-9885/eggs/bzr-2.2.0-py2.6-linux-x86_64.egg/bzrlib/commands.py", line 182, in _register_builtin_commands | 08:13 |
| al-maisan | import bzrlib.builtins | 08:13 |
| al-maisan | ValueError: bad marshal data | 08:13 |
| al-maisan | bzr: ERROR: Connection closed: Unexpected end of message. Please check connectivity and permissions, and report a bug if problems persist. | 08:13 |
| al-maisan | sorry | 08:13 |
| al-maisan | meant to paste pastebin url | 08:13 |
| adeuring | good morning | 08:34 |
| wgrant | rockstar: BeautifulSoup is included via the Java Mentality. | 09:07 |
| mrevell | Hi | 09:18 |
| LPCIBot | Yippie, build fixed! | 10:57 |
| LPCIBot | Project devel build (154): FIXED in 3 hr 35 min: https://hudson.wedontsleep.org/job/devel/154/ | 10:57 |
| LPCIBot | * Launchpad Patch Queue Manager: [r=lifeless,thumper][ui=none][no-qa] Slightly fix the IDSJob tests. | 10:57 |
| LPCIBot | * Launchpad Patch Queue Manager: [r=lifeless][ui=none][bug=664012] Fix the oopses raided by +branch | 10:57 |
| LPCIBot | navigation when there is no referrer to be 404s. | 10:57 |
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| bigjools | good morning | 13:21 |
| wgrant | Morning. | 13:22 |
| mwhudson | jam: staging codehosting seems to be working | 14:23 |
| mwhudson | this surprises me :-) | 14:23 |
| jam | mwhudson: well, we haven't updated the config for the new code yet | 14:23 |
| mwhudson | oh of course | 14:23 |
| lifeless | poolie: bug 666765 is also on my nice-to-have for scopes | 15:17 |
| StevenK | lifeless: Didn't you mention a fix for the "No module named mailman.monkeypatches.defaults" ? I seem to recall it involved wielding rm over a directory | 15:29 |
| lifeless | rm -rf lib/mailman; make | 15:31 |
| jml | why is stdout a text stream rather than a bytes stream in Python 3? | 15:31 |
| lifeless | because python three | 15:31 |
| lifeless | jml: hows your session | 15:31 |
| jml | lifeless: not exactly riveting | 15:32 |
| bigjools | lifeless: so, running tests locally I get a lot of errors about librarians either running when they should not be or vice versa | 15:35 |
| bigjools | this Is Bad. | 15:36 |
| rockstar | james_w, can we chat at some point about soupmatchers? | 15:36 |
| bigjools | lifeless: looks like some layer issues | 15:36 |
| rockstar | bigjools, yeah, I've had those problems for about three weeks. | 15:37 |
| rockstar | bigjools, did you bin/kill-test-services ? | 15:37 |
| bigjools | yes | 15:38 |
| rockstar | bigjools, where is you? | 15:38 |
| bigjools | rockstar: boner 6 | 15:38 |
| rockstar | bigjools, is there a session in there, or are you loitering? | 15:38 |
| bigjools | rockstar: linaro session | 15:38 |
| rockstar | bigjools, ah. | 15:38 |
| bigjools | rockstar: but I may duck out RSN | 15:38 |
| rockstar | bigjools, okay. I'm at the end of the arterial hallway. | 15:39 |
| lifeless | bigjools: last time I saw that I had a prod librarian running | 15:39 |
| bigjools | I am getting motivated to fix test_on_merge | 15:40 |
| bigjools | rockstar: wtf is the arterial hallway? :) | 15:45 |
| lifeless | antigua | 15:45 |
| rockstar | bigjools, the hallway that acts as artery to all the dead end hallways. | 15:45 |
| bigjools | rockstar: which end? | 15:46 |
| poolie | lifeless, replied | 15:48 |
| poolie | lifeless, please tag them so i can find them later | 15:49 |
| bigjools | lifeless: it was a stale pidfile | 15:50 |
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| lifeless | jml: :( | 16:05 |
| james_w | rockstar, sure thing | 16:06 |
| rockstar | james_w, are you going to be in a session after the one that just started? | 16:06 |
| james_w | rockstar, yes. I think my afternoon is quieter though | 16:07 |
| james_w | rockstar, or lunch? | 16:07 |
| rockstar | james_w, lunch will work. | 16:08 |
| StevenK | Is it just me or is codehosting down? | 16:17 |
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| fjlacoste | lifeless: around? | 16:40 |
| lifeless | ys | 16:41 |
| lifeless | fjlacoste: yes | 16:44 |
| fjlacoste | lifeless: i need your advice, i'm working on a version of the ppr report that computes everything using SQL, that will operate in constant memory | 16:44 |
| fjlacoste | lifeless: i have all the stats covered except the median | 16:44 |
| fjlacoste | i know how to compute it, but it is very expensive | 16:44 |
| lifeless | fjlacoste: btw, disk space on sodium - we had to kill your thing | 16:44 |
| fjlacoste | i know | 16:45 |
| fjlacoste | that's fine | 16:45 |
| fjlacoste | we can sort that out later | 16:45 |
| lifeless | it was using 5% of the disk :) | 16:45 |
| fjlacoste | 2.9G | 16:45 |
| lifeless | yeah | 16:45 |
| lifeless | thats ~ 5% | 16:45 |
| fjlacoste | it needs a bigger disk :-) | 16:45 |
| fjlacoste | anyway | 16:45 |
| fjlacoste | so the way i can compute the median is by sorting on the column and using LIMIT 1 OFFSET n/2 to get the value | 16:45 |
| fjlacoste | but this seems like very expensive to do given that we are taking about millions of records | 16:46 |
| fjlacoste | and we are computing 3 medians | 16:46 |
| fjlacoste | and we can only do that by key | 16:46 |
| lifeless | WHERE Rank = (SELECT (COUNT(*)+1) DIV 2 FROM | 16:46 |
| fjlacoste | ah | 16:46 |
| lifeless | also | 16:47 |
| lifeless | http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Aggregate_Median | 16:47 |
| lifeless | though I haven't looked into that implementation | 16:47 |
| fjlacoste | lifeless: i'm using sqlite | 16:47 |
| lifeless | oh | 16:47 |
| lifeless | :P | 16:47 |
| fjlacoste | i was asking if you mind dropping it :-) | 16:47 |
| fjlacoste | but your rank thing gave me an idea | 16:48 |
| lifeless | fjlacoste: hmm, so if the column is indexed grabbing the median should be darn cheap | 16:48 |
| fjlacoste | the question is how do I index the column relatively cheaply | 16:49 |
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| lifeless | insert the data | 16:49 |
| lifeless | index the column | 16:49 |
| lifeless | then start querying | 16:49 |
| lifeless | oh | 16:50 |
| lifeless | you'll want to increase the sqlite cache size too | 16:50 |
| lifeless | because its like 2MB or something insane by default | 16:50 |
| lifeless | give it 200MB or so | 16:50 |
| flacoste | create an index on category, time for example? | 16:50 |
| flacoste | ok | 16:50 |
| lifeless | yeah | 16:50 |
| lifeless | remember that the query prefix has to match the index | 16:50 |
| flacoste | right | 16:51 |
| lifeless | category,time won't help time only sorts | 16:51 |
| lifeless | IIRC | 16:51 |
| flacoste | well i need the rank of time within each category | 16:51 |
| flacoste | (or url, or pageid) | 16:51 |
| lifeless | yack | 16:51 |
| jcsackett | lifeless: any chance you could help me think through bac's notes on bug 652156 and bug 652149? | 16:52 |
| jcsackett | basically, it looks to me like the timeouts there aren't related to either bug/branch. | 16:52 |
| lifeless | qastaging has a 10second timeout | 16:52 |
| abentley | lifeless: do you mean yak (-shaving), yuck, or some combination? | 16:52 |
| lifeless | I meant 'acl' | 16:53 |
| lifeless | bah | 16:53 |
| lifeless | 'ack' | 16:53 |
| lifeless | jcsackett: so any page that has a timeout bug open (https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-project/+bugs?field.tag=timeout) is almost certain to timeout on [qa]staging too | 16:53 |
| lifeless | jcsackett: I would not stress about incidental timeouts there (but I *would* fix the page to not timeout at all :P separately :) ) | 16:54 |
| mwhudson | mtaylor, jam: launchpad/bzr planning over lunch? | 16:54 |
| jcsackett | lifeless: that makes sense. so bac and i can mark ours qa-ok if the functionality is working (aside from the branchbug timeout)? | 16:54 |
| lifeless | jcsackett: as long as the page is already timing out with bug, production oops) | 16:55 |
| flacoste | lifeless: actually, there is no Rank expression in sqlite | 16:56 |
| flacoste | and generating the rank seems as costly as getting the median using iterative limit/Offset | 16:56 |
| lifeless | flacoste: how slow is slow | 16:58 |
| flacoste | several hours | 16:58 |
| flacoste | actually, i don't know | 16:59 |
| flacoste | just guessing here | 16:59 |
| flacoste | i'll measure and see | 16:59 |
| flacoste | assess | 16:59 |
| jcsackett | lifeless: so, there isn't a bug filed against project/+branches, but person/+branches has one (bug 627945) and the query is the same in both. i'm thinking either add detail to that bug or file a new bug for project linked to it. thoughts? | 16:59 |
| mwhudson | mtaylor, jam: which isn't right now, of course | 17:01 |
| * mwhudson was just getting hungry and optimistic | 17:01 | |
| flacoste | lifeless: http://oreilly.com/catalog/transqlcook/chapter/ch08.html#Calculating%20a%20Median has an actual elegant solution :-) | 17:02 |
| jam | mwhudson: sounds good | 17:02 |
| jam | I'm pretty sure poolie is interested too | 17:02 |
| lifeless | jcsackett: add the page id for the other case to the title, done. | 17:04 |
| jcsackett | lifeless: fantastic. thanks. | 17:04 |
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| flacoste | hmm, that query does look expensive | 17:11 |
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| lifeless | flacoste: up the cache size as a start | 17:12 |
| flacoste | lifeless: ack | 17:12 |
| lifeless | you could denormalise the counts per category | 17:12 |
| lifeless | given you're starting with a fresh db each run, right ? | 17:12 |
| mtaylor | mwhudson: yes | 17:18 |
| mwhudson | jam, mtaylor: i'll loiter by the registration desk | 17:20 |
| mwhudson | poolie: ^^ | 17:20 |
| lifeless | jml: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~lifeless/testtools/fixtures/+merge/39388 | 17:55 |
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| LPCIBot | Project db-devel build (101): SUCCESS in 4 hr 4 min: https://hudson.wedontsleep.org/job/db-devel/101/ | 18:14 |
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| jml | lifeless: reviewed | 19:09 |
| lifeless | gary_poster: http://pypi.python.org/pypi/storm - needs 0.18 ? | 19:13 |
| mars | the PyPi version is almost a year old | 19:15 |
| gary_poster | lifeless, yes, remaining release of storm (per the release instructions) is stalled until Jamu gives me privs to upload docs or does it himself. There are a number of small things remaining (also announcing it on ML, for instance). | 19:15 |
| gary_poster | For PyPI, Storm didn't release 0.17 there and it's not on their release checklist, but I got privs to do it anyway, so I'll do it then. | 19:15 |
| lifeless | gary_poster: Jamu here, go ahead and release, I'll deploy docs later. | 19:16 |
| gary_poster | Cool Jamu, thanks | 19:16 |
| * mars loves UDS :) | 19:16 | |
| mwhudson | i am inpressed by the fact that people are just registering kernel imports, and they basically work | 19:22 |
| mwhudson | it would be much better if we supported stacking for import branches sensibly but well | 19:23 |
| jelmer | mwhudson: +1 | 19:24 |
| jelmer | it shouldn't really be all that hard if I understand correctly | 19:24 |
| * mwhudson quickly reaches for his "not a launchpad developer" hat | 19:24 | |
| * jelmer reaches for his "not a launchpad-code developer" hat :-) | 19:24 | |
| mwhudson | jelmer: i think the bug report on this describes what to do fairly clearly | 19:25 |
| mwhudson | i hope so, becuase i'm fairly sure i knew what to do at one point and certainly don't any more | 19:26 |
| jml | lifeless: do you still thing that https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/testtools/+bug/584824 is still worth doing? | 19:33 |
| jml | think | 19:33 |
| jml | lifeless: also, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/testtools/+bug/666923 wrt previous discussions | 19:36 |
| jkakar | gary_poster: Hi! | 19:58 |
| gary_poster | jkakar: hi :-) | 19:58 |
| lifeless | deryck: hey | 20:05 |
| deryck | hi lifeless | 20:05 |
| lifeless | https://devpad.canonical.com/~lpqateam/qa_reports/deployment-stable.html | 20:05 |
| deryck | looking.... | 20:06 |
| deryck | slow openid dance | 20:06 |
| lifeless | deryck: so https://bugs.qastaging.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/10000 looks ok | 20:09 |
| lifeless | deryck: I'm not entirely sure how to validate it further | 20:09 |
| deryck | lifeless, yeah, I'm looking at the changes now to see. | 20:09 |
| deryck | lifeless, I smell a bad rev. https://bugs.qastaging.launchpad.net/bugs/10000/+bug-portlet-subscribers-content | 20:13 |
| deryck | hmmm, maybe that's not gmb's | 20:14 |
| lifeless | deryck: whats wrong with it ? | 20:18 |
| deryck | lifeless, that link OOPS for me. | 20:18 |
| deryck | https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=OOPS-1760QS46 | 20:19 |
| deryck | oh, that's security.cfg permissions again. Like bug expiry script. We missed something in pg 8.4 migration, I guess. | 20:21 |
| deryck | lifeless, ok, so gmb's is qa-ok. Visiting https://bugs.qastaging.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/10000/+subscribe confirms the new code is hit and works fine. | 20:22 |
| lifeless | deryck: will you mark it as such? the two bugs ? | 20:23 |
| deryck | lifeless, indeed. | 20:23 |
| lifeless | thanks | 20:23 |
| deryck | lifeless, do you not get an OOPS at the first URL I provided? the portlet one. | 20:25 |
| lifeless | yes, I do, i thought it might be transient but its very quick | 20:25 |
| deryck | lifeless, transient? You mean timeout? I get ProgrammingError. | 20:26 |
| lifeless | deryck: I meant I thought it might be a slow db or something | 20:26 |
| deryck | lifeless, ah, ok | 20:27 |
| deryck | lifeless, we should talk more about this after we get out of sessions, since I saw the same on expiry script test runs. | 20:27 |
| bigjools | THE EAGLE HAS LANDED | 20:27 |
| bigjools | where eagle == new buildd manager | 20:28 |
| deryck | bigjools, awesome! | 20:28 |
| bigjools | 7k branch with no mechanical changes! | 20:28 |
| thumper | bigjools: what does it give us? | 20:29 |
| bigjools | asynchronous comms | 20:30 |
| bigjools | and far, far better failure detection and dealing with failures | 20:30 |
| bigjools | lp:~julian-edwards/launchpad/builderslave-resume if you want gory details :) | 20:30 |
| deryck | hi thumper. Being at UDS makes us overlap for once. :-) | 20:31 |
| rockstar | james_w, are you going to have some bandwidth this afternoon? | 20:31 |
| thumper | deryck: hey | 20:31 |
| james_w | rockstar, the next session looks pretty good to me | 20:32 |
| rockstar | james_w, okay, I think I need to make some hard choices here. | 20:34 |
| james_w | rockstar, 6pm would also work for me | 20:34 |
| rockstar | james_w, yeah, that won't work at all. Next session is good, I'll just chat with aq before the next session. | 20:34 |
| james_w | rockstar, well, that was the session I was thinking going to as well :-) | 20:37 |
| james_w | rockstar, are you here all week? | 20:37 |
| rockstar | james_w, indeed I am, but I want to land some work before next week. :) | 20:37 |
| james_w | rockstar, sure :-) | 20:37 |
| james_w | rockstar, where are you now? | 20:38 |
| rockstar | james_w, I'm in the game development session, but it's a bust, so I can get out now if you can. | 20:38 |
| james_w | rockstar, I can | 20:38 |
| james_w | rockstar, outside the plenary room? | 20:38 |
| rockstar | james_w, I'm in the hall. | 20:40 |
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| jml | bigjools: grats! | 21:12 |
| rockstar | \o/ BrowserTestCase just got a whole lot better. | 21:13 |
| bigjools | jml: and thanks to you! | 21:13 |
| bigjools | jml: FWIW I hammered it on DF with a load of production builders that were borrowed and it didn't put a foot wrong. | 21:19 |
| jml | bigjools: sweet. | 21:19 |
| lifeless | rockstar: what got better about it ? | 21:23 |
| bigjools | jml: of course, I just set myself up for a big fall :) | 21:23 |
| jml | bigjools: sure. :) | 21:23 |
| jml | bigjools: it's not going to work the first time. never does. | 21:23 |
| rockstar | lifeless, I'm teaching it about james_w's soupmatchers. | 21:23 |
| bigjools | kiko's 1st law of software? | 21:23 |
| jml | bigjools: exactly | 21:23 |
| jml | lifeless: https://code.launchpad.net/~jml/launchpad/atexit-warning/+merge/39403 | 21:24 |
| lifeless | jml: I saw, i don't understand it. It seems wrong | 21:24 |
| jml | lifeless: that's why I wanted to talk about it :) | 21:24 |
| lifeless | why not just remove the atexit call | 21:24 |
| lifeless | and if things go screwy fix the code that isn't using a finally where needed. | 21:25 |
| jml | lifeless: I don't know why the atexit call was there. it seems like a belt-and-braces thing | 21:25 |
| lifeless | I think its because zope.testing stops teardown when a NotImplemented is enoucountered except in the last runner instance | 21:26 |
| jml | lifeless: I guess I should do some archeology and find out why it was added. | 21:26 |
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| jml | lifeless: ok. I'm not sure what to do with that though. | 21:27 |
| lifeless | jml: change zope.testing to not mess about | 21:27 |
| lifeless | if a layer is setUp, it should tear it down | 21:28 |
| lifeless | perhaps we could use Fixture to do that ;) | 21:28 |
| jml | lifeless: I don't want to fix zope.testing to silence this warning | 21:28 |
| lifeless | jml: the warning is a symptom of the root cause | 21:28 |
| lifeless | the root cause is that teardown is inconsistently called | 21:28 |
| lifeless | and because of that we have: | 21:29 |
| jml | lifeless: the root cause being that layers is a pos | 21:29 |
| lifeless | - ordering problems | 21:29 |
| lifeless | jml: well, what do you want to do? | 21:29 |
| lifeless | jml: I don't want the fixture code to silently accept teardowns when torn down | 21:29 |
| lifeless | that seems prone to hiding things | 21:30 |
| jml | lifeless: it's not doing that, there's a special tear down for atexit, since there's no way of cancelling atexit calls | 21:30 |
| lifeless | jml: you can use atexit._exithandlers.remove() | 21:31 |
| jml | lifeless: you think that would be better than the code in the patch? | 21:31 |
| lifeless | yes | 21:31 |
| lifeless | because the ugliness would be outside the island of sanity I've created | 21:31 |
| lifeless | better would be fixing the root cause: zope.testing | 21:32 |
| jml | I'm not going to fix zope.testing to address this issue | 21:32 |
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| lifeless | well, I may :) | 21:32 |
| jml | lifeless: you're welcome to it | 21:33 |
| lifeless | jml: I'm not terribly concerned about pushing it upstream, because I think layers is so poor, I want a good platform for migrating from though. | 21:33 |
| lifeless | jml: I want us to stop papering over things like this. | 21:33 |
| jml | lifeless: sure, me too. but to me this is an incremental improvement. we're using atexit today to paper over an issue, and it's generating a warning that has little to do with the underlying issue.... | 21:36 |
| jml | lifeless: I'm patching it to not generate useless the warning. | 21:36 |
| lifeless | StevenK: https://devpad.canonical.com/~lpqateam/qa_reports/deployment-stable.html tag, you're it. | 21:36 |
| lifeless | jml: but, you're: | 21:38 |
| lifeless | - duplicating code | 21:38 |
| lifeless | - adding a silent-wrong code path | 21:38 |
| lifeless | - leaving the underlying issue open | 21:38 |
| lifeless | jml: I think its a much better use of your time to just fix the basic cause | 21:39 |
| jml | lifeless: no, it's not. because that's a significantly larger amount of work, and I've got other things I want to do. | 21:39 |
| lifeless | jml: I'd be happy with a change that didn't duplicate code and make the server.py module less clear | 21:39 |
| jml | lifeless: ok. I'm moving to atexit._exithandlers now | 21:40 |
| jcsackett | i may have missed an email on this topic, but does launchpadlib work on qastaging? | 21:44 |
| lifeless | it should, but it may need a glue update | 21:44 |
| jml | lifeless: patch updated. | 21:45 |
| jcsackett | hm. question the second: is lplib supposed to work with regular staging? | 21:48 |
| LPCIBot | Project db-devel build (102): SUCCESS in 3 hr 36 min: https://hudson.wedontsleep.org/job/db-devel/102/ | 21:51 |
| LPCIBot | Launchpad Patch Queue Manager: [rs=lamont][ui=none][no-qa] Update the changelog for launchpad-buildd. | 21:51 |
| jml | lifeless: yes. | 21:53 |
| jml | jcsackett: yes. | 21:53 |
| jml | (sorry lifeless) | 21:53 |
| jcsackett | jml: thanks. i must just have something wrong in my setup; staging is telling me that it can't connect b/c it can't forward a request. | 21:55 |
| thumper | morning fellow hackers | 21:55 |
| jcsackett | i'll continue futzing with it. | 21:55 |
| jml | jcsackett: hmm. | 21:56 |
| jml | thumper: hi | 21:56 |
| thumper | jml: do you have a few minutes? | 21:56 |
| jml | thumper: I will very soon. | 21:56 |
| jml | thumper: in a session right now | 21:56 |
| thumper | jml: well, I have the standup shortly, and a talk with flacoste after that | 21:57 |
| jml | thumper: when are you next free? | 21:57 |
| thumper | jml: probably in 1.5 hours | 21:57 |
| jcsackett | jml: if that "hmm" indicates interest, the response is pasted here https://pastebin.canonical.com/39102/ | 21:58 |
| flacoste | thumper: i'm free whenever you are | 21:58 |
| flacoste | i know that our call is only in 30 mins | 21:58 |
| jml | jcsackett: that looks like a bug that a losa ought to know about | 21:59 |
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| jcsackett | jml: yeah? okay. i was assuming my own screw up, but i'll go tell one. | 21:59 |
| jml | jcsackett: I don't know | 21:59 |
| jcsackett | jml: dig. i'm getting a losa now. | 22:00 |
| jml | thumper: I can be around in 1.5hrs time | 22:01 |
| thumper | jml: ok | 22:02 |
| wallyworld_ | thumper: abentley: standup? | 22:11 |
| lifeless | StevenK: ping | 22:20 |
| StevenK | lifeless: O hai | 22:21 |
| lifeless | I can has QA? https://devpad.canonical.com/~lpqateam/qa_reports/deployment-stable.html | 22:21 |
| lifeless | (Is it deployable) | 22:21 |
| StevenK | lifeless: Yes, but let me finish what I'm in the middle of | 22:22 |
| StevenK | I was unblocked to do so on Friday, and then there was a weekend and a plane trip | 22:23 |
| LPCIBot | Project devel build (155): SUCCESS in 3 hr 56 min: https://hudson.wedontsleep.org/job/devel/155/ | 22:38 |
| lifeless | StevenK: bigjools I've requested a review of what was qa'd. Please unblock the queue as soon as possible. | 23:18 |
| lifeless | or tell me enough to do it myself | 23:18 |
| bigjools | lifeless: pardon? | 23:18 |
| lifeless | s/review/deploy/ | 23:18 |
| bigjools | lifeless: need moar context | 23:18 |
| lifeless | bigjools: https://devpad.canonical.com/~lpqateam/qa_reports/deployment-stable.html | 23:18 |
| lifeless | bigjools: 9 day old unqa'd patch | 23:19 |
| lifeless | bigjools: (which is to be expected, we're only just in the actually-use-it stage of RFWTAD | 23:19 |
| bigjools | lifeless: Steve was in the middle of QAing that as far as I know | 23:20 |
| lifeless | cool | 23:21 |
| thumper | rockstar: ping | 23:24 |
| jml | thumper: ping | 23:28 |
| thumper | jml: just finishing off with flacoste | 23:28 |
| jml | thumper: ok. | 23:28 |
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| wgrant | "The size of the diff (7194 lines) is larger than your specified limit of 1000 lines" D: | 23:32 |
| jml | wgrant: it's a big patch. | 23:32 |
| StevenK | lifeless: Are you saying "Please QA this right now", in leiu of say, dinner? | 23:35 |
| StevenK | lifeless: And it would take me longer to explain how to QA it than to just do it myself. :-) | 23:36 |
| flacoste | lifeless: what's the status of removing edge? | 23:38 |
| flacoste | i actually need to go afk, let's talk about it tomorrow | 23:41 |
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