[00:21] <kklimonda_> hey, can someone with upload rights take a look at bug 658069 ?
[00:46] <crimsun> kklimonda_: uploaded
[01:53] <kklimonda_> crimsun: thanks
[02:42] <lucidfox> bah
[02:43] <lucidfox> it's not enough for Planet Ubuntu posters to just shove Twitter links in my face, now they post Twitter screenshots. In big letters.
[02:43]  * lucidfox sighs
[02:44] <Laney> twitter is so offensive to you that you can't even stand to look at screenshots?
[04:45] <kklimonda_> what is the "twitter screenshot"? A screenshot of twitter website? :)
[07:44] <AnAnt> Hello, how do I compile a plymouth plugin ? I mean what are the flags I should give to gcc to get a proper .so file for plymouth plugin ? I do know what libs to link against
[07:53] <anon^_^> this is probably a topic that's usually better suited to #ubuntu, but I was hoping for Ubuntu-dev feedback
[07:53] <anon^_^> or maybe you can point in a better direction
[07:53] <anon^_^> can someone explain the rationale behind the switch from gnome to unity?
[07:54] <anon^_^> hmm actually probably better suited for #ubuntu-uds
[08:05] <\sh> anon^_^: well..other timezone now...and your correct dude to raise the question is jono ... he wants to answer all questions
[11:18] <Copernic_> is there a irc channel for the ubuntu security team?
[11:19] <jpds> Copernic_: #ubuntu-security ?
[11:19] <Copernic_> k thx
[11:20] <twb> It's -hardened
[11:21] <twb> At least, that's what I've been using...
[11:21] <twb> #ubuntu-security appears to be "join only", which IIRC is a freenode bug when it tries to redirect you to a channel you're already in
[11:47] <AnAnt> Hello, how do I compile a plymouth plugin ? I mean what are the flags I should give to gcc to get a proper .so file for plymouth plugin ? I do know what libs to link against
[11:50] <twb> AnAnt: I don't know, but maybe "apt-get source" an existing plugin and have a look at how they do it
[11:51] <AnAnt> twb: I did apt-get source plymouth, but it has a little complex build system (configure script, libtool), and the build log doesn't show what goes on
[11:52] <twb> AnAnt: maybe there is e.g. a kubuntu plymouth plugin that is simpler?
[11:52] <AnAnt> twb: it is also in the plymouth source package
[11:52] <twb> Bummer
[11:53] <twb> I haven't had much luck with code that canonical/ubuntu produces themselves; YMMV.
[11:53] <twb> About all I know how to do with plymouth is to change the purple background to black
[12:09] <AnAnt> twb: anyways, do you know how to produce an .so file from a .o file ?
[12:10] <twb> I can't remember; ask ##workingset
[12:10] <twb> It's something trivial
[12:46] <AnAnt> twb: thanks
[14:17] <nascentmind> Hi. When I install a dbg library. The next time I compile and link will it be using the dbg version of the library?
[14:18] <nascentmind> or do i need to restart my machine?
[14:18] <ebroder> nascentmind: The -dbg libraries just have debugging symbols. They don't actually change the library
[14:19] <nascentmind> ebroder: yes so would it be loaded next?
[14:19] <ebroder> The next time you attach gdb or something, the debugging symbols will be found
[14:19] <ebroder> You could probably kick gdb to find them without even restarting it, but I can never remember how to do that
[14:19] <nascentmind> ebroder: I am not finding it
[14:20] <nascentmind> when I step into it doesn't go into the function of the library.
[14:43] <andreoli> hi, can a PPA host kernels targeted to different distros (lucid and maverick)?
[14:44] <micahg> andreoli: yes
[14:45] <andreoli> thx
[14:45] <micahg> andreoli: you just have to worry about the 2GB limit
[14:45] <andreoli> ok, I'll wipe out old packages
[14:46] <andreoli> I get this: EE: Previous or current ABI file missing!
[14:46] <andreoli> I am pretty sure the current maverick kernel version is 2.6.35-22.35
[14:46] <andreoli> The git log tells me it is actually 2.6.35-22.36
[14:47] <andreoli> 2.6.35-23.36, sorry
[14:47] <micahg> andreoli: well, that might be what they're working on, but 22.35 is in the repos ATM
[14:47] <andreoli> ok thx
[14:48] <andreoli> then I maybe forgot to push "skipabi=true" in rules.d/amd64.mk
[16:18] <lifeless> kees: ping
[16:19] <lifeless> bony 8, mate! [sec input needed for arm ppa discussion]
[17:05] <DktrKranz> cjwatson: hi! if you're doing more archive stuff, mind adding an entry for ubiquity in sync-blacklist? There are chances to see a completely unrelated ubiquity source in Debian, so it won't be overwritten by accident.
[17:05] <pitti> DktrKranz, cjwatson: I'll do that ^
[17:05] <DktrKranz> pitti: thanks!
[17:07] <pitti> done
[17:07] <DktrKranz> ty
[18:35] <ebroder> cjwatson: It looks like the current lua grub-extras don't have a way to get the output from a command, just the return code
[18:35] <ebroder> So getting the lspci output could be difficult
[18:35] <ebroder> Might be easier from a parsing standpoint to just add a lua function to iterate over PCI IDs
[18:36] <ebroder> (Keeps us from having to parse the lspci output)
[19:19] <BUGa_badmood> o/
[19:52] <lag> maco: Can you let me know when you're back online please?
[20:13] <maco> lag: hi!
[20:22] <BUGa_badmood> hey maco
[20:27] <maco> lag: are you in the kernel session right now? i just walked in
[21:18] <lag> maco: Yep, I'm sitting next to you! :)
[21:22] <BUGabundo> aha
[21:27] <ebroder> *sigh* How do I deal with http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/520340/ ?
[21:27] <ebroder> (I know it's because I'm not branching off of ~vcs-imports/grub/main, but I don't know how to override that logic)
[21:30] <ajmitch> looks like one of the lp branches needs upgraded, you may want to check in #launchpad for the right way to go about it
[21:30] <ebroder> I appear to have attracted the attention of an LP developer sitting behind me, so I'll bug him more after this session :)
[21:31] <ajmitch> oh good :)
[21:36] <cjwatson> ebroder: understood
[21:36] <cjwatson> geser: vim> ack, will do
[21:37] <cjwatson> ebroder: maybe there should be a different LP project for each of the GRUB extras, since they really aren't the same source base
[21:45] <geser> cjwatson: do we have to keep the whole history of vim merges? the history is currently 9x larger that the remaining changes itself
[21:46] <ebroder> cjwatson: In any case, barring superhuman bzr manipulations, I have a patch at r20 of lp:~broder/+junk/grub2-extras-lua-enum-pci. Is there a list to e-mail to get that pulled upstream?
[21:55] <showard> Hi - I'm looking for someone to upload an SRU to maverick-proposed. It has already been approved by the SRU team. It's for the vino package and can be found at bug #652961
[22:26] <cjwatson> geser: I don't have a strong opinion.  it would be good to keep at least recent history though
[22:26] <cjwatson> ebroder: grub-devel at gnu.org
[22:34] <geser> cjwatson: I'll think about where to draw the line for the next merge (I think about keeping the merge entries since lucid). Currently the last Ubuntu changelog entry is for warty from Sep 2004
[23:12] <geser> cjwatson: btw do you have an opinion on bug 572627?  disabling setting "syntax on" by default would fix it but probably make other people unhappy again
[23:29] <crimsun> geser: true, but we can't please everyone.  We should also just loudly publicize the change.
[23:31] <ari-tczew> who is familiar with .desktop files? I have to determine MimeType. does my .desktop is correct with standards? http://paste.ubuntu.com/520405/
[23:33] <crimsun> ari-tczew: see desktop-file-validate(1) in the desktop-file-utils package