[00:23] <drifting-on-a-dr> Spent the entire day with this, it's losing it's charm gone midnight :-)  Still no tuners !!!
[01:31] <stratagem_bot> Does anyone use the hdhomerun?
[01:31] <stratagem_bot> Or are familiar with network packetloss/high pings while recording?
[01:32] <stratagem_bot> intermittently
[01:32] <stratagem_bot> Maybe I should put myth backend and hdhomerun on its own switch and uplink to router switch instead?
[01:34] <stratagem_bot> or maybe I should get dd-wrt on this shitty asus router
[02:13] <rhpot1991> stratagem_bot: I run one
[02:13] <rhpot1991> I run it on its own network
[02:14] <rhpot1991> I know several other people who run them as well, but on their main network
[02:14] <stratagem_bot> multi-homed backend?
[02:14] <stratagem_bot> when recordings are going, my desktop pc, completely separate from the backend gets packet loss and high pings to the outside and internally
[02:15] <stratagem_bot> both are connected to a asus wl520gu
[02:15] <stratagem_bot> my desktop is also using a linksys powerline adapter
[02:15] <stratagem_bot> I've seen this happen on two separate routers
[02:15] <rhpot1991> I don't know what you mean by multi-homed backend
[02:15] <rhpot1991> smells like a bottleneck somewhere in your network
[02:15] <stratagem_bot> multi-homed means two nics on two networks
[02:16] <stratagem_bot> same box
[02:16] <rhpot1991> I have my main network with everything on
[02:16] <rhpot1991> then I have a pci card in my backend, and the HDHR is hooked directly to that
[02:16] <stratagem_bot> ah yeah. was considering doing that.  maybe I have some spare nics around
[02:17] <rhpot1991> I did it originally to test some corruption in recordings, and just have left it that way
[02:18] <rhpot1991> are the powerlines inbetween the router and your HDHR?
[02:18] <rhpot1991> or the box that you are pinging from
[02:18] <stratagem_bot> no
[02:18] <stratagem_bot> powerline adapters are between my desktop pc upstairs, and my router downstairs
[02:18] <stratagem_bot> box pinging from
[02:19] <stratagem_bot> my iphone cnonected wireless will show signs of packetloss/latency
[02:19] <rhpot1991> I'd start eliminating parts
[02:19] <rhpot1991> powerline can be an issue
[02:19] <rhpot1991> stock firmware on the router?
[02:19] <stratagem_bot> it's updated to the latest ASus provides
[02:19] <stratagem_bot> but I'm thinking about giong dd-wrt
[02:20]  * rhpot1991 runs openwrt
[02:20] <stratagem_bot> http://wiki.openwrt.org/oldwiki/OpenWrtDocs/Hardware/Asus/WL520GU
[02:20] <stratagem_bot> better than dd-wrt?
[02:20] <rhpot1991> I'd eliminate the powerlines first
[02:20] <stratagem_bot> I have no experience with either
[02:20] <rhpot1991> bad wiring or something could be causing issues
[02:21] <rhpot1991> I like it, but if you aren't comfortable with messing around some it may not be for you
[02:21] <stratagem_bot> wish I could run a line down the wall, but can't really go digging behind these ancient center city warehouse walls
[02:21] <rhpot1991> its normally pretty painless to go back to the stock firmwares so you could give it a try and see
[02:21] <rhpot1991> have return vents anywhere?
[02:22] <rhpot1991> I ran a wire from floor to floor through a return vent pretty easily, then hid it under my baseboards
[02:22] <rhpot1991> you can try asking in #hdhomerun, they can do some debugging on the units but I'm not sure if they can help at all with this issue
[02:23] <stratagem_bot> return is at the end of the hallway.  there is ducting but everything is in awkward spots.  plus the ceilings are high.  and the studs are metal with those boxes crimped to the side of them. I'd have to start cutting nit othe wall, and trying to rundown the side somehow assming there is a space to go down totthe first floor.
[02:25] <stratagem_bot> The weird thing is that none of the recordings have issues really.  all seem to come ni clearly
[02:25] <stratagem_bot> unless t here is really high fault tolerance
[02:25] <stratagem_bot> taking QAM from cable line
[02:26] <stratagem_bot> I have a laptop up here that connects wireless that also experiences the packet loss
[02:26] <stratagem_bot> which is why I didn't think the powerline adapters were the culprit
[02:27] <stratagem_bot> I just need to do some thorough testing.  and begin eliminating things.
[02:30] <rhpot1991> ya sounds like the router/network
[08:42] <gandalfcome> I am trying to use flash streaming on my mytbuntu 10.04 running mythweb. Do i need to install special packages?
[11:29] <[Vex]> halp! I need help getting my remote working... anyone? I have iMon Knob, mythbuntu maverick
[11:30] <[Vex]>  how do I configure the buttons on the remote, now that they stopped using lirc and shifted to using input/event ?
[11:30] <[Vex]> or how do I switch back to using lirc?
[14:26] <[Vex]> noone?
[14:26] <[Vex]> anyone?
[14:31] <rhpot1991> [Vex]: well you have 2 options
[14:31] <rhpot1991> 1. ignore lirc it really isn't needed
[14:31] <rhpot1991> 2. configure lirc as a devinput
[14:31] <[Vex]> I'd love to skip lirc ;)
[14:32] <[Vex]> but... how do I configure my remote then?
[14:32] <rhpot1991> [Vex]: should just work, and it should send keys to the system, then you just need to make sure they match up with the mythtv keybindings
[14:32] <[Vex]> how do I "read" the keys?
[14:34] <[Vex]> earlier I used irw
[14:34] <rhpot1991> [Vex]: looks like there is a command evtest
[14:35] <rhpot1991> which should help you
[14:35] <[Vex]> then I could see what came in, and could configure lirc
[14:35] <rhpot1991> more like see what comes in then change the bindings in mythtv to match
[14:36] <[Vex]> would be fine too ;)
[14:36] <rhpot1991> if you want to have lirc in the middle, configure it as a devinput and then you can use lirc as the middleman and avoid changing the mythtv key bindings
[14:38] <[Vex]> would be easier, since I have the config-files
[14:39] <[Vex]> then I just need to figure out how to do that ;)
[14:39] <rhpot1991> well you'd be overwriting them all
[14:39] <rhpot1991> fire up MCC
[14:39] <[Vex]> got backup
[14:39] <rhpot1991> choose devinput, click the generate dynamic button mappings and run
[14:39] <rhpot1991> then see what works with irw
[14:41] <[Vex]> ok, thx.... installed lubuntu and mythtv earlier, but might just go back to mythbuntu
[14:47] <rhpot1991> [Vex]: the packages are the same either way so it shouldn't matter
[14:48] <rhpot1991> you can install mythbuntu-control-centre on ubuntu and use it there
[14:49] <[Vex]> I did
[14:49] <[Vex]> all you said, but irw reports nothing
[14:50] <[Vex]> I can't select devinput, only Infrared
[14:54] <rhpot1991> [Vex]: your last words make no sense
[14:54] <[Vex]> sry ;)
[14:55] <[Vex]> rhpot1991: in mythbuntu-control-center, you said to choose "devinput"
[14:55] <[Vex]> is that "Infraed" ?
[14:55] <[Vex]> I can't find anywhere, where it sais "devinput"
[14:55] <[Vex]> sry if I'm being stupid....
[14:56] <rhpot1991> ya on the infared tab
[14:56] <rhpot1991> then choose devinput as the remote type
[14:56] <[Vex]> ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[14:56] <rhpot1991> and click the generate dynamic button mappings
[14:56] <[Vex]> trying
[14:56] <rhpot1991> then hit apply
[14:58] <[Vex]> "Linux input layer (/dev/input/eventX)" right?
[15:00] <[Vex]> now something happended....
[15:01] <rhpot1991> checking on that to make sure
[15:01] <rhpot1991> yep that should be right
[15:02] <[Vex]> now I can move the mouse, using the 4 direction-buttons...
[15:03] <[Vex]> Am I remembering wrong if i say that irw used to report stuff like "Caption", "Stop", "VolDown" etc ?
[15:04] <rhpot1991> [Vex]: should report button presses
[15:05] <rhpot1991> some of those remotes have a mouse and keyboard mode, try toggling that
[15:05] <[Vex]> oh.... so it's a mouse....
[15:09] <[Vex]> THX rhpot1991
[15:10] <[Vex]> after a reboot, the remote for my iMon Knob works! now I "just" need to reconfigure my Logitech Harmony
[15:13] <rhpot1991> [Vex]: good to hear
[15:14] <[Vex]> now something else is wrong... darn
[15:18] <[Vex]> need mythbuntu-repos
[16:37] <drifting-on-a-dr> Would it be appropriate to link to the Mythbuntu forum ?
[16:38] <rhpot1991> drifting-on-a-dr: in here?
[16:39] <drifting-on-a-dr> Yes, I have been fighting with this ongoing tuner problem, and thought a more through explanation on the website would be wise (My post)
[16:43] <rhpot1991> drifting-on-a-dr: its generally a good idea to do a forum thread if you aren't getting help here, more eyeballs there
[16:43] <rhpot1991> feel free to link it in here
[16:44] <drifting-on-a-dr> That is what I have done, not got many replies their either, getting desperate now, losing loads of the GF's series not recording.
[16:58] <drifting-on-a-dr> Thank you :- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1602348
[16:58] <Zinn> [ubuntuforums.org]  Tuner problems Mythbuntu 8.4 to 10.4 upgrade, also possible database corruptio - Ubuntu Forums
[16:58] <drifting-on-a-dr> Thats the one
[16:58] <gregL> How would I get the backend upstart job to restart from the command line?
[17:04] <tgm4883> gregL, service mythbackend restart
[17:04] <tgm4883> or it might be
[17:04] <tgm4883> service mythtv-backend restart
[17:06] <gregL> tgm4883, Thanks...I have googled for the proper command and couldn't find it...
[17:16] <rhpot1991> sudo restart mythtv-backend
[17:16] <rhpot1991> gregL: tgm4883 ^
[17:16] <rhpot1991> thats how I do it
[17:19] <tgm4883> rhpot1991, that would work too
[17:24] <gregL> For some raeson none of those commands work for me.. I get this error :   restart: Unknown instance:
[17:24] <gregL> er reason
[17:26] <tgm4883> hmm
[17:27] <rhpot1991> try start?
[17:27] <rhpot1991> it may not be running
[17:27] <tgm4883> or status
[17:27] <rhpot1991> ya check status too
[17:27] <rhpot1991> assuming you are on 0.23 or greater?
[17:27] <tgm4883> although restart should start it if it is not running
[17:27] <gregL> trunk
[17:27] <rhpot1991> tgm4883: ya I thought so
[17:27] <tgm4883> gregL, define trunk?
[17:28] <tgm4883> Cause there is only one release I know that we have trunk builds for, and it hasn't released alpha1 yet
[17:28] <gregL> MythTV Version   : 26946
[17:29] <tgm4883> gregL, are you compiling this yourself?
[17:29] <gregL> yes
[17:29] <rhpot1991> thats prob why
[17:29] <gregL> ?
[17:29] <tgm4883> are you using our packaging?
[17:30] <tgm4883> what happens if you do this
[17:30] <tgm4883> service mythtv-backend
[17:31] <gregL> mythtv-backend: unrecognized service
[17:31] <tgm4883> ok
[17:31] <tgm4883> what about this
[17:31] <tgm4883> /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend
[17:33] <gregL> I think you hit it...I get this error: /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend: No such file or directory
[17:34] <gregL> I have something clearly goofed up..I will have to investigate further..Thanks
[17:34] <rhpot1991> I'm confused why aren't you using our autobuilds?
[17:35] <gregL> I have been self compiling for a few years...
[17:36] <gregL> The upstart script is from mythbuntu...
[17:36] <rhpot1991> gregL: do you build with our packages or with mythtv source directly?
[17:36] <gregL> source
[17:36] <rhpot1991> sounds like you don't have our upstart script in place then
[17:36] <tgm4883> yea you don't have either script
[17:36] <tgm4883> gregL, is there a reason you are self compiling?
[17:36] <gregL> I have the one that was on the mythbuntu cd..
[17:37] <gregL>  I got into self compiling when the HD-pvr came on the scene..
[17:37] <rhpot1991> gregL: should look into autobuilds, we do all that work for you now :)
[17:38] <tgm4883> s/now/have been for years
[17:38] <gregL> Yeah, I know,but you never learn anything if someone else does all the work....It's a great service you provide...
[17:40] <gregL> Thanks, for pointing me in the right direction....