[00:34] <Lex79> JontheEchidna: can you retry? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sip4-qt3/4.11.1-0ubuntu1/+build/2014822
[00:34] <Lex79> thanks
[00:35] <JontheEchidna> Lex79: done
[00:35] <Lex79> k
[00:48] <Lex79> oh I didn't see python2.7 is ftbfs
[01:16] <CIA-96> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1190119 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/ (6 files in 3 dirs) (log message trimmed)
[01:16] <CIA-96> Birth of a new Config class. It's a wrapper around the libapt-pkg config API,
[01:16] <CIA-96> providing a KConfig-like API to the world. Let's start off read-only for now, as
[02:33] <EagleScreen> kgmailnotifier has not debug symbols in the debug repository
[02:52] <JontheEchidna> Unfortunately, I think QApt::Config is more robust against failure than APT's config parser. I cannot test the failure handling of QApt::Config because APT fails to initialize when junk data is in apt.conf v.v
[02:54] <JontheEchidna> but I guess that's what you get when you work with a 13 year old library
[02:58] <JontheEchidna> well, it does initialize. It just reports to have 3 million packages available, but isn't actually able to show packages
[02:59] <JontheEchidna> nevermind. It doesn't initalize. LibQApt doesn't seem to be catching the error and throwing an InitError in that case...
[03:01] <JontheEchidna> Apt is still braindead because it could easily ignore the junk at the end of the file
[03:16] <CIA-96> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1190132 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/ (backend.cpp backend.h) Throw an InitError in two more places that it can occur. Make a private throwInitError function since we are now using the exact same code in 3 places
[03:20] <CIA-96> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1190133 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/worker/ (worker.cpp worker.h) Handle the additional potential init failure points in the worker, too.
[03:47] <CIA-96> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1190136 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/ (config.cpp config.h) Add writeEntry functions for bool, int and QString types. All that's left is to write a function that can actually write to disk in the QApt Worker, and use it here.
[04:19] <CIA-96> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1190139 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/ (8 files in 2 dirs) Add a worker function to write a file to disk. Config can now read and write to disk int, bool and QString APT settings. \o/
[04:20] <JontheEchidna> Hmm, didn't imagine I'd get that whole thing done in an evening. Qt is great.
[04:30] <JontheEchidna> g'night
[07:42] <fabo> Riddell: have some logs about the #ubuntu-uds-curacao12 meeting
[07:42] <fabo> Riddell: it was midnight when you pinged ;)
[12:11] <sheytan> Kubuntu ad, this time with free music and fixed text http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JJFySfHaqo :D
[12:13] <CIA-96> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1190313 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/ (backend.cpp backend.h) Add a method to get the Backend's Config pointer.
[12:53] <eMyller> sheytan_: hey! :)
[12:53] <eMyller> needs some design @ ad
[14:08] <udslogger> Riddell: do the gudielines also apply to us?
[14:13] <Riddell> udslogger: I agree we shouldn't have the circle in aubergine
[14:14] <maco> udslogger: i think we get our own colour scheme
[14:14] <udslogger> ^^
[14:14] <udslogger> I was refering to spacing and stuff :P
[14:16] <Riddell> yes i think the spacing is sensible for us to keep
[14:17] <sheytan> eMyller hey :)
[14:17] <sheytan> eMyller how's the html5 player? :)
[14:18] <eMyller> sheytan: you told me a flash one would be used Oo
[14:18] <sheytan> udslogger i think we did. Or i was with someone else. Anyway, did you see the ad? we can add this little boy. It's only 1mb :D
[14:18] <sheytan> eMyller nope, flash as a secondary one
[14:18] <sheytan> eMyller but we have time :)
[14:19] <sheytan> flash is a crap
[14:19] <eMyller> sheytan: http://videojs.com/
[14:19] <eMyller> am gonna use it :)
[14:19] <udslogger> sheytan: 1mb is a lot
[14:19] <eMyller> it = videojs, not flash
[14:19] <sheytan> udslogger we can remove some stuff from the example content :D
[14:19] <eMyller> ad on the site? OH NOES
[14:20] <eMyller> at least not as a video/with audio
[14:20] <udslogger> sheytan: we do not have an example content?
[14:20] <sheytan> eMyller is this done by you?
[14:20] <sheytan> udslogger i didn't say that  :P
[14:20] <eMyller> sheytan: nope
[14:20] <udslogger> sheytan: we do not have example content!
[14:21] <eMyller> sheytan: i still have to code a site for my js project :0
[14:21] <eMyller> * :)
[14:21] <sheytan> eMyller but this java script, not html5 right?
[14:21] <sheytan> udslogger yes, i know, i didn't say we don't have. I said we can remove something to pu there the ad. Remove something to make space :D
[14:21] <eMyller> "html5" (as people call) is composed also by js stuff.
[14:21] <udslogger> ah right
[14:22] <udslogger> what would you like to remove?
[14:22] <udslogger> french translations?
[14:22] <udslogger> libreoffice?
[14:22] <shadeslayer> KDE?
[14:23] <sheytan> udslogger sometime ago i saw there examples of open document files. Is this still there?
[14:23] <udslogger> no
[14:23] <udslogger> that is what I am saying
[14:23] <udslogger> :P
[14:23] <sheytan> eMyller well, ok ;) But when we get this one, can we change the look of it? :)
[14:23] <eMyller> sheytan: yeah :)
[14:24] <eMyller> gimme the style and i code it asap
[14:24] <sheytan> udslogger ooh :( Anyway, if there will be some space available, you can include the ad :D
[14:24] <udslogger> what would the point be
[14:24] <sheytan> eMyller i already sent it to you :)
[14:24] <udslogger> you do not need to advertise something someone is already trying or even installing
[14:24] <eMyller> sheytan: i lost my hd :D
[14:24] <eMyller> sheytan: please send me again @ pvt
[14:24] <eMyller> oh wait
[14:24] <eMyller> ubuntu one :)
[14:24] <sheytan> eMyller ok, tell me if you have it
[14:24] <udslogger> shadeslayer: manpage!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[14:25] <udslogger> shadeslayer: hello hello!
[14:25] <udslogger> shadeslayer: dude!
[14:25] <sheytan> udslogger well, you're right :D
[14:25] <udslogger> shadeslayer: HALO!
[14:25] <udslogger> shadeslayer: ...
[14:25] <eMyller> how can i install ubuntuone here? (maverick)
[14:25] <DarkwingDuck> udslogger: where you guys at
[14:25] <udslogger> shadeslayer aint is getting no notifications
[14:25] <eMyller> forgot the resource.
[14:25] <udslogger> DarkwingDuck: nakkid meeting
[14:25] <shadeslayer> haha
[14:26] <shadeslayer> i was staring at the spreadbuntu page
[14:26] <udslogger> maco: Riddell: what happened to the hot tub plans btw?
[14:26] <sheytan> eMyller kubuntu ?
[14:26] <udslogger> shadeslayer: manpage!!!!!
[14:26] <eMyller> sheytan: sure
[14:26] <shadeslayer> we are so geeky, sitting next to each other and IRC'ing
[14:26] <udslogger> oh 
[14:26] <DarkwingDuck> lol
[14:26] <maco> udslogger: the security people yelled at us that the hot tub was closed
[14:26] <sheytan> eMyller i don't think you can. You need use browser
[14:26] <udslogger> I am ultimate geek
[14:26] <shadeslayer> one man page coming right up
[14:26] <udslogger> I got myself a Qt tattoooooo
[14:26] <eMyller> sheytan: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/08/install-ubuntuone-alpha-1-for-kde-in.html
[14:26] <shadeslayer> ^ yea
[14:26] <udslogger> maco: wtf
[14:27] <shadeslayer> eMyller: that is unmaintained 
[14:27] <sheytan> yeah
[14:27] <shadeslayer> or whatever is a alias for gnome
[14:27] <maco> apparently it was 2300 and thats too late to be surrounded by water
[14:27] <udslogger> maco: we should tell mark so he can ensure we get special hot tub permission ^^
[14:27] <shadeslayer> hot tub rekonq bashing
[14:27] <eMyller> shadeslayer: it was working before Oo
[14:27] <DarkwingDuck> udslogger: +1
[14:27] <udslogger> shadeslayer: manpage!!!!
[14:28] <udslogger> eMyller: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+bug/375145
[14:30] <sheytan> eMyller http://pastebin.com/Q141eXkU
[14:30] <shadeslayer> eMyller: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+bug/375145/comments/35
[14:30] <eMyller> :\
[14:33] <eMyller> shadeslayer: do you use the gnome client?
[14:33] <shadeslayer> i dont use U1
[14:33] <shadeslayer> as simple as that 
[14:34] <eMyller> cool :)
[14:34] <shadeslayer> even if a client exsisted, i dont think ill use it :P
[14:34] <eMyller> dropbox instead?
[14:34] <eMyller> shadeslayer: any special reason?
[14:35] <shadeslayer> eMyller: just dont really need a file sharing service :P
[14:35] <shadeslayer> i can just upload to p.u.c or rapidshare or whatever
[14:35] <shadeslayer> ( u1 is a good concept, just that i have no use case for it )
[14:36] <shadeslayer> udslogger is doing some scary stuff right now
[14:36] <shadeslayer> and his desktop is all fluffy
[14:37] <udslogger> how is that scary
[14:42] <eMyller> hehe
[14:42] <eMyller> udslogger: any code to share? :)
[14:42] <eMyller> sidenote: gnome's ubuntuone client is working here and syncd is running. :)
[14:46] <udslogger> shadeslayer: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Complete#Man Pages
[14:46] <udslogger> one version of how to make a manpage
[14:46] <udslogger> eMyller: its in bzr branches all over launchpad
[14:46] <udslogger> also newboon2Age wants to continue it, so you should talk to him
[14:48] <eMyller> kay
[14:49] <drdanz> Hi! is there any plan to backport kdevplatform 1.1 and kdevelop 4.1 to maverick?
[14:55] <newboon2Age> continue which udslogger?
[14:56] <newboon2Age> scarey shadeslayer?  i don't understand what you mean
[14:57] <newboon2Age> We need to complete kubuntu on U1.  incorporating kde is very important to making U1 accessible by other distros, etc.
[15:02]  * txwikinger cannot join the uds channel for the rekonq session
[15:02] <Riddell> ** rekonq session moved to 11:00
[15:02] <Riddell> i.e. one hours time
[15:03] <Riddell> drdanz: hi
[15:04] <Riddell> drdanz: it's in the beta PPA due to lack of testing time https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/beta
[15:04] <Riddell> please try it out and let me and shadeslayer know how it works
[15:04] <txwikinger> Riddell: you are moving a lot of sessions
[15:04] <txwikinger> same room?
[15:04] <Riddell> txwikinger: it won't be in a room so no audio feed I'm afraid
[15:04] <drdanz> Riddell: I will try it, thanks!
[15:04] <txwikinger> bummer
[15:05] <txwikinger> so much for remote participation.. that session I was really interested in
[15:05] <txwikinger> well.. stupid me... should have come to UDS :(
[15:11] <udslogger> Riddell: you should come to bonaire1, should be interesting
[15:12] <udslogger> ScottK: the hooks on the arm box are sort of missing important ones :P
[15:12] <udslogger> like the one running apt-get update before doing stuff
[15:14] <shadeslayer> Riddell: works for me ( just kdevelop ), ill package the rest of kdevelop when i get some time
[15:18] <udslogger> shadeslayer: how is the manpage coming along?
[15:18] <shadeslayer> pretty good
[15:18] <udslogger> why is it not done? :P
[15:19] <shadeslayer> im listening to their discussion
[15:19] <udslogger> that is like 5 minutes of work :P
[15:19] <udslogger> shadeslayer: you are not, you are obviously chatting on irc :P
[15:19] <shadeslayer> udslogger: multitasking :P
[15:20] <udslogger> ScottK: also maybe we should look into cowbuilding, (de)compression of the pbulder tar is just to darn slow
[15:20] <shadeslayer> udslogger: since it does has no --help-qt or --help-kde options, can i remove it?
[15:21] <udslogger> shadeslayer: you want to remove multitasking? :O
[15:21] <udslogger> are you applying for a job at apple?
[15:21] <shadeslayer> no
[15:21] <shadeslayer> from the man page
[15:21] <shadeslayer> can i remove the --help-qt and --help-kde options
[15:21] <shadeslayer> lol
[15:21] <udslogger> well
[15:21] <udslogger> yes?
[15:21] <udslogger> obviously? :P
[15:30] <shadeslayer> udslogger: http://pastebin.ca/1974730
[15:31] <shadeslayer> udslogger: looks ok?
[15:31] <udslogger> is it pornstack?
[15:32] <shadeslayer> yes
[15:41] <CIA-96> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1190401 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/config.cpp Better handling of existing keys and appending new keys to the end of the file.
[15:41] <shadeslayer> udslogger: did you look at the man page?
[15:41] <udslogger> no
[15:41] <udslogger> it is not SFW
[15:43] <shadeslayer> wha
[15:45] <dasKreech> hi hunger
[15:45] <hunger> dasKreech: Hello
[15:45] <dasKreech> How are?
[15:47] <shadeslayer> udslogger: whaaaa
[15:47] <udslogger> is it the devil?
[15:47] <shadeslayer> 0_o
[15:47] <udslogger> shadeslayer: how does that manpage help exactly?
[15:47] <udslogger> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manpage
[15:47] <shadeslayer> it tells the user what it is
[15:48] <udslogger> Man pages (short for manual pages) are the extensive documentation
[15:48] <udslogger> *extensive*
[15:48] <shadeslayer> what WMIface is
[15:48] <shadeslayer> ah
[15:48] <shadeslayer> oh
[15:48] <shadeslayer> fffff
[15:48] <udslogger> the control file tells the user what it is
[15:48] <hunger> dasKreech: Great, how are you?
[15:48] <shadeslayer> im so royally screwed
[15:48] <udslogger> also the user will hopefully know what it is by the time he had installed it
[15:48] <udslogger> you are not royal
[15:48] <udslogger> :P
[15:48] <dasKreech> hunger: great :) following Telepathy stuff
[15:48] <dasKreech> Tubes are interesting
[15:48] <udslogger> and if you were, you surely should not tell jr ;)
[15:49] <hunger> dasKreech: I', only great since I no longer do that:-)
[15:49] <udslogger> shtylman: I got a battery warning notification again
[15:49] <udslogger> shtylman: also shadeslayer has all messed up quassel notifications
[15:50] <shadeslayer> yayy
[15:50] <shadeslayer> so rekonq is not the only broken Qt app
[15:50] <shtylman> udslogger: if only I was at UDS
[15:50] <shtylman> oh... if only
[15:50] <dasKreech> hunger: I know :) But it's still interesting :)
[15:51] <drdanz> Riddell, shadeslayer: Installation of kdevelop 4.1 from beta archive was smooth, it starts without any apparent issue, sessions, projects and opened files are correctly restored from 4.0.2, and git integration seems to work. I will let you know if I encounter any problem later. If you want me to test for something in particular just ask!
[15:51] <txwikinger> rekonq session on irc in this channel?
[15:51] <shadeslayer> nooo
[15:51] <shadeslayer> drdanz: awesome
[15:51] <Riddell> drdanz: groovy
[15:51] <Riddell> txwikinger: in 10 minutes
[15:51] <txwikinger> ok
[15:52] <dasKreech> well I'm off
[15:52] <dasKreech> *waves*
[15:54] <sheytan> hey
[15:54] <sheytan> where can i find the blueprints of the new unity from uds? :D
[15:54] <sheytan> anyone have them? :D
[15:58] <txwikinger> unity? Do we use unity in Kubuntu?
[15:58] <shtylman> no
[15:58]  * txwikinger thought unity is a Gnome shell
[16:03] <Riddell> ** http://piratepad.net/appdev-n-kubuntu-rekonq-wishlist
[16:04] <Riddell> sheytan: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/sprints/uds-n?searchtext=unity
[16:04] <txwikinger> ok.. rekonq
[16:05] <txwikinger> Do we have a document for the wishlist?
[16:05] <Riddell> txwikinger: http://piratepad.net/appdev-n-kubuntu-rekonq-wishlist
[16:05] <Riddell> http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/rekonq/Roadmap is upstream's roadmap
[16:07] <nixternal> Riddell: you guys in a room for this one? I don't see it on the list anymore for today
[16:07] <Riddell> nixternal: sorry no room
[16:07] <Riddell> but feel free to chat here
[16:07] <nixternal> roger that
[16:07] <Riddell> I just want it released in time for natty
[16:07] <shadeslayer> oh Lex79 is here as well :)
[16:07] <Riddell> and a clear button on the URL bar
[16:07] <Riddell> and then I'm happy
[16:07] <shadeslayer> hahaha
[16:08] <txwikinger> Is there any way the extension support can be bumped up?
[16:08] <Riddell> I suspect not, it needs someone to code it and that's not easy
[16:08] <Lex79> ho
[16:08] <shadeslayer> only if we get more coders
[16:08] <Lex79> hi shadeslayer :)
[16:08] <Riddell> extensions are on http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/rekonq/Roadmap
[16:08] <shadeslayer> nikhil is already working on it
[16:09] <Riddell> but http://gitorious.org/~nikhilm/rekonq/nikhilms-mainline/commits/extensions hasn't had commits in a while
[16:09] <Riddell> txwikinger: what do you need extensions for?
[16:09] <shadeslayer> yes, because he had exams :P
[16:09] <txwikinger> a firebug kinda thing
[16:09] <shadeslayer> txwikinger: is that like the webinspector thing
[16:10] <txwikinger> Well.. webinspector is missing some stuff
[16:10] <txwikinger> like console.log message
[16:10] <shadeslayer> http://imgur.com/z4wpL
[16:10] <shadeslayer> ah ok
[16:10] <txwikinger> and messages from the server backend
[16:11] <txwikinger> shadeslayer: yes webinspector does css inspection, but not javascript debugging
[16:11] <shadeslayer> ok, i did not know that
[16:12] <nixternal> Riddell: fyi, bonaire 7 room, that topic has been cancelled. people are just chatting amongst themselves in there
[16:13] <ScottK> We aren't moving
[16:13] <Riddell> http://piratepad.net/appdev-n-kubuntu-rekonq-wishlist
[16:13] <shtylman> put the address bar under the tabs
[16:14] <shtylman> it makes more sense
[16:14] <shadeslayer> isnt it just easy to do Ctrl+A and Del ?
[16:14] <shadeslayer> ( to clear the urlbar )
[16:15] <nixternal> make 'Yahoo Sports' work :)  can't easily get to my fantasy football page from rekonq like I can with ff or chrome
[16:15] <nixternal> stuff doesn't work there
[16:16] <shtylman> overall I am pretty happy with rekonq...  the nice thing with chrome is that it doesn't have the title bar
[16:16] <shtylman> which means more vertical space.. cause titlebars are a waste of space :)
[16:17] <nixternal> nevermind. some reason in rekonq i was logged into yahoo as 'nixternal' and not my real account
[16:17] <shadeslayer> http://piratepad.net/appdev-n-kubuntu-rekonq-wishlist
[16:17] <Riddell> valorie_: http://piratepad.net/appdev-n-kubuntu-rekonq-wishlist
[16:17] <nixternal> plus i hate that i can't disable it from asking me to store or not store the password when logging into sites
[16:18] <shtylman> ++nixternal
[16:18] <ScottK> nixternal: Put it in the piratepad
[16:18] <nixternal> Sorry, the all-new att.net Mail does not support your browser.  <- odd that I get this seeing as it is webkit
[16:18] <shadeslayer> nixternal: uh.. you can disable it for one site with "Never store password for this site"
[16:18] <nixternal> that disables it for one site, i don't want to ever have it ask me, like ff and chrome can do
[16:18] <nixternal> i hate the kde way of doing it, it is shit
[16:18] <DarkwingDuck> Do I dare ask about FTP suppert within? rekonq? :P
[16:19] <valorie__> ok, now paste it again?
[16:19] <shtylman> can we just ship google chrome?
[16:19] <shtylman> ScottK: :p
[16:19] <jjesse> that would be nice :)
[16:19] <ScottK> shtylman: No.
[16:20] <valorie__> chromium, you mean?
[16:20] <shtylman> yea
[16:20] <ScottK> Can't ship that either.
[16:20] <ScottK> Security team hasn't accepted it in Main.
[16:20] <DarkwingDuck> valorie__: http://piratepad.net/appdev-n-kubuntu-rekonq-wishlist
[16:20] <shadeslayer> ScottK: http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/rekonq/2010-July/001521.html
[16:20] <valorie__> thank you!
[16:22] <crimsun> I've been using rekonq while at UDS; it's quite nice.
[16:22] <nixternal> it is quite fast for me
[16:22] <nixternal> the yahoo issues is a let down since i use yahoo for my fantasy football
[16:22] <DarkwingDuck> I like the speed and I have switched fairly well
[16:22] <DarkwingDuck> nixternal: +1
[16:23] <shtylman> I have been using rekonq on my laptop
[16:23] <shtylman> with raster render engine it is nice
[16:23] <shtylman> don't have some of my chrome extensions
[16:23] <udslogger> it is so cold in here :(
[16:23] <shtylman> which might be a deal breaker in the end.. I dunno
[16:24] <jjesse> am i the only one who doesn't use extensions on his browser?
[16:24] <shadeslayer> everyone is now discussing Quassel
[16:24] <shadeslayer> :S
[16:24] <shadeslayer> jjesse: same here
[16:24] <shtylman> KONVERSATION!! :p
[16:24] <Riddell> nixternal: "rekonq had me signed in with my 'nixternal' account" signed into what?
[16:25] <nixternal> Riddell: fixed it on ppad
[16:25] <nixternal> had me signed in as nixternal to yahoo.com, and today was the first time i used rekonq, so i know i never logged into yahoo.com before
[16:25] <nixternal> same with gmail. so rekonq is using username/passwords from kopete. it has to be
[16:26] <txwikinger> quasseln == German word for konversation :p
[16:47] <jjesse> must be lunch break :)
[16:47] <Riddell> nixternal: the question is if that's a feature or a bug
[16:48] <Riddell> nixternal: I think it's rather that kopete and rekonq both use the normal kde services for cookies and usernames/passwords
[16:59] <nixternal> Riddell: i would guess a feature, and if so, a bad feature, at least for me
[17:08] <maco> i really wish i could unlock the screen by typing in my password *sigh*
[17:16] <udslogger> !find libnepomukutils
[17:16] <udslogger> !find libnepomukutils.so
[17:20] <rbelem_> udslogger, any clues?
[17:20] <udslogger> no
[17:20] <udslogger> rbelem_: is that our 4.5.2?
[17:21] <rbelem_> udslogger, hum...
[17:21] <rbelem_> udslogger, i just found the error :-(
[17:21] <rbelem_> my fault
[17:21] <udslogger> I know :P
[17:21] <rbelem_> ahaha :-D
[17:21] <udslogger> what else would it be :P
[17:26] <CIA-96> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1190430 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/config.cpp - Fix a bug where a newline would be added each time Config wrote to APT's config. - Change the runtime settings in the writeConfig functions, so that we can actually use our new settings before restarting.
[17:29] <udslogger> here there be phonons
[17:30] <udslogger> shadeslayer: you build it into one
[17:30] <shadeslayer> uhh
[17:30] <shadeslayer> udslogger: how?
[17:31] <CIA-96> [muon] jmthomas * 1190432 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/muon/ (5 files in 2 dirs) FEATURE: Add an option to configure whether or not a package's recommends should be treated as dependencies. CCMAIL:633295@bugs.launchpad.net
[17:31] <shadeslayer> udslogger: nvm
[17:31] <udslogger> lord google ftw!
[17:35] <CIA-96> [muon] jmthomas * 1190434 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/ChangeLog ChangeLog++
[17:35] <CIA-96> [muon] jmthomas * 1190435 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/TODO Update TODO
[17:36] <udslogger> ScottK: for the sake of minimal delta I am trying my fix with cdbs, if we are fortunate phonon should be fixed in like a few minutes
[17:38] <shadeslayer> udslogger: http://pastebin.ca/1974839
[17:39] <shadeslayer> sheytan: dude, did you add neon PPA?
[17:39] <sheytan> shadeslayer i even installed stuff, but when i go to /opt/... and run startkde it says that kconfig4something isn't found
[17:39] <sheytan> i think some path problems
[17:39] <shadeslayer> hmm
[17:39] <sheytan> but the file is ofcourse there
[17:40] <shadeslayer> probably because we need to fix the vars 
[17:40] <shadeslayer> udslogger: ^
[17:40] <sheytan> shadeslayer would be cool. i want to test KDE but i don't have time to setup slackware :D
[17:40] <sheytan> it takes the whole day :D
[17:40] <shadeslayer> hahaha
[17:40] <udslogger> I have a var in my bag
[17:40] <shadeslayer> udslogger: is that why its so jumpy?
[17:41] <udslogger> shadeslayer: what exactly changed with the manpage?
[17:41] <udslogger> it still is not a manpage
[17:41] <shadeslayer> there is now a new para :P
[17:41] <udslogger> wow
[17:41] <shadeslayer> :P
[17:41] <udslogger> still not fitting the description of a manpage
[17:41] <shadeslayer> yeah im working on it
[17:42] <shadeslayer> Project Neon FTW!
[17:42] <shadeslayer> kill them man pages!
[17:43] <ScottK> udslogger: Excellent.
[17:44] <rbelem_> udslogger, shadeslayer, what is project neon?
[17:44] <shadeslayer> :O
[17:44]  * shadeslayer faints
[17:44] <udslogger> rbelem_: pornstack
[17:44] <rbelem_> :-D
[17:44] <ScottK> rbelem_: It builds kdesvn trunk packages for the current Kubuntu release.
[17:45] <shadeslayer> stupid qtwebkit
[17:45] <CIA-96> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1190439 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/config.h Document QApt::Config
[17:45] <rbelem_> hum...
[17:45] <rbelem_> cool
[17:46] <rbelem_> shadeslayer, try qtwebkit2.1. it is much better
[17:46] <udslogger> mgraesslin: can you get me a trace that was incomplete WRT graphics driver
[17:46] <shadeslayer> rbelem_: dude... im working on qtwebkit for neon ;)
[17:46] <shadeslayer> and it isnt building
[17:46] <rbelem_> oh!
[17:47] <udslogger> *broken*
[17:47] <rbelem_> shadeslayer, join #qtwebkit and poke some guys :-)
[17:48] <shadeslayer> udslogger: quilt can push the patch in but it fails on lp : http://launchpadlibrarian.net/58272128/buildlog.txt.gz
[17:48] <udslogger> what patch?
[17:48] <shadeslayer> i can apply the patch locally :S
[17:48] <shadeslayer> 0001_fix_symbols_visibility_for_webcore.diff
[17:49] <udslogger> ...you probably broke something...
[17:52] <udslogger> ScottK: root@kubuntu-efikamx00:~/phonon-4.7.0really4.4.2# dpkg-deb -c ../phonon-backend-xine_4.7.0really4.4.2-1ubuntu2_armel.deb  |wc
[17:52] <udslogger>      39     236    3276
[17:53] <udslogger> something that checks for if armel
[17:53] <udslogger> export CXXFLAGS += -Wa,-mimplicit-it=thumb
[17:53] <udslogger> endif
[17:53] <udslogger> all you need
[17:53] <ScottK> udslogger: Thanks.
[17:55] <rbelem_> shadeslayer, build bots for qtwebkit trunk http://build.webkit.org/waterfall?category=core
[17:55] <shadeslayer> much more difficult when you have a patch against trunk
[17:55] <rbelem_> shadeslayer, and qtwebkit2.1 http://webkit.sed.hu/buildbot/waterfall
[17:56] <shadeslayer> no no no no
[17:56] <shadeslayer> rbelem_: i have a patch, it applies against trunk locally but in the buildd it doest
[17:57] <rbelem_> shadeslayer, ok
[18:12] <sheytan> shadeslayer Quintasan I'm starting to create the PN subpage for the kubuntu page. :D
[18:43] <sheytan> any plans to make amarok ubuntu1 music store? :D
[18:44] <shadeslayer> lulz ^
[18:50] <sheytan> shadeslayer i think, that you (pn team) should write a short how to for project neon. Will be cool :D
[18:50] <shadeslayer> that is the plan
[18:52] <sheytan> shadeslayer i'm already working on implementing it on the page :D
[18:52] <sheytan> i mean from the design not code way :D
[19:02] <drdanz> Riddell, shadeslayer: kdevelop 4.1 from beta worked like a charm but crashed when I closed it.
[19:02] <drdanz> The kde crash handler button "Install Debug Symbols" doesn't work... "The packages containing debug information for the following application and libraries are missing: /usr/bin/kdevelop"
[19:02] <drdanz> This is a backtrace of the crash: http://pastebin.com/u5QKaf8r, I tried installing libkdevplatform-dbg, but I can't get any better result
[19:02] <drdanz> I cannot reproduce the crash just by opening and closing kdevelop (I will see in the next days if I get the crash again) and I also believe that it is something unrelated to packaging...
[19:05] <shadeslayer> drdanz: not so helpful :(
[19:06] <shadeslayer> drdanz: the backtrace is quite useless.... 
[19:07] <ScottK> Riddell and udslogger: phonon uploaded.
[19:07] <udslogger> sweetness
[19:08] <udslogger> ScottK: in order to get graphics driver dbg symbols we need to switch kubuntu-debug-installer to ddebs
[19:08] <udslogger> apparently graphics drivers do not have dbg packages in the archives
[19:08] <ScottK> udslogger: Is there a significant downside for that?
[19:09] <udslogger> a) PPAs do not have dbgsyms
[19:09] <udslogger> b) you cannot misc dbg with dbgsym - hence the user must not have dbg packages from the archive installed
[19:10] <ScottK> Ah.
[19:10] <ScottK> That latter bit I didn't know.
[19:10] <udslogger> well, if one dbgsym package depends on another that conflicts with a dbg symbol -> hell
[19:10] <ScottK> Right.
[19:10] <udslogger> especially since they will not have proper conflicts in the package relation
[19:11] <ScottK> So can we tell if the user is using PPA packages and behave differently?
[19:11] <udslogger> yes, but no, how should it behave?
[19:12] <ScottK> Install -dbgsym if there's no KDE PPA stuff and also bring in vido drivers and install -dbg if things are from a PPA.
[19:12] <ScottK> I'm curious what xorg-edgers does then.
[19:13] <udslogger> ScottK: what if once dbgsym was installed and the user since switched to a ppa?
[19:14] <ScottK> That's the point where we need to tell the user "In order to do anything useful, we need to remove a lot of packages and download a bunch of new ones, would you like to go ahead?"
[19:16] <txwikinger> maco, scottk, anybody wants to answer this question? http://askubuntu.com/questions/9785 
[19:16] <udslogger> ScottK: that sounds overly expensive TBH
[19:16] <ScottK> udslogger: I agree it's not idea.
[19:16] <ScottK> idea/ideal
[19:16] <ScottK> Alternatively, can we get the X team to add dbg packages?
[19:17] <udslogger> worth asking
[19:17] <udslogger> though in the long run we need to go with dbgsym anyway
[19:17] <udslogger> though that kind of stands and falls with launchpad growing support for dbgsym in ppas
[19:18] <shadeslayer> Question: Can i ask just for Kubuntu and not order Windoze :P
[19:18] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Talk to zareason
[19:18] <shadeslayer> ScottK: already looking, but will Dell do that 
[19:18] <ScottK> txwikinger: I think if you us dimap instead of imap you can.
[19:18] <shadeslayer> ( the answe is NO :P )
[19:18] <ScottK> shadeslayer: They will do only Ubuntu, but they don't support Kubuntu.
[19:19] <ScottK> For internal reasons they are only going to do one Linux desktop.
[19:19] <shadeslayer> ScottK: i asked them if i could drop Windows from my system when ordering and they said no
[19:19] <txwikinger> ScottK: You want me to relay that answer?
[19:19] <ScottK> txwikinger: Sure.  dimap is more reliable anyway.
[19:19] <txwikinger> yeah. I know.. I used dimap since last year when you told me
[19:19] <ScottK> shadeslayer: If you order a system for which Ubuntu is available, it comes with only Ubuntu.
[19:20] <freeflying> shadeslayer, then you can order an ubuntu preload dell notebook
[19:20] <txwikinger> however, the last version of kmail spins 100% cpu for me
[19:20] <ScottK> txwikinger: Tell them that too tough.
[19:20] <shadeslayer> the XPS didnt have it... so *shrug*
[19:20] <ScottK> txwikinger: In maverick?
[19:20] <ScottK> Works for me.
[19:20] <ScottK> shadeslayer: It's not for all models.
[19:20] <shadeslayer> i want dell to have it available for every model
[19:20] <shadeslayer> yeah ... see
[19:22] <shadeslayer> well
[19:23] <shadeslayer> udslogger: qtwebkit daily builds active \o/
[19:23] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: ^^
[19:24] <udslogger> back to basics
[19:24] <udslogger> shadeslayer: arent you supposed to create a flipping manpage?
[19:24] <shadeslayer> heh
[19:24] <shadeslayer> rekonq hacking first
[19:24] <shadeslayer> or
[19:25]  * udslogger feels like punching shadeslayer
[19:25] <shadeslayer> lol
[19:25] <txwikinger> udslogger: Eh.. no violence
[19:26]  * udslogger notes that the feeling just shifted to target someone else
[19:28] <valorie_> shadeslayer: http://imagebin.ca/view/b25Lnjoz.html
[19:28] <valorie_> firefox bookmark buttons
[19:29] <shadeslayer> uh
[19:29] <shadeslayer> eh
[19:29] <shadeslayer> hmm
[19:29] <valorie2> see what I mean?
[19:29] <shadeslayer> valorie2: the one in the URL bar?
[19:29] <shadeslayer> or in the bookmarks bar?
[19:30] <valorie2> right below the URL bar
[19:30] <shadeslayer> ok got it
[19:30] <valorie2> I dragged down my gmail and identica buttons
[19:31] <shadeslayer> hmm
[19:32] <valorie2> chromium can do it too
[19:32] <valorie2> same way
[19:37] <shadeslayer> udslogger: okularpart doesnt support it
[19:37] <shadeslayer> udslogger: send me the link
[19:37] <udslogger> http://www.cs.umd.edu/~samir/498/Amazon-Recommendations.pdf
[19:38] <udslogger> shadeslayer: I just checked
[19:38] <udslogger> IT DOES
[19:58] <ScottK> udslogger: They claim to have -dbg packages.  Could you join #ubuntu-x?
[20:26] <CIA-96> [ubuntu] Alessandro Ghersi <alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org * alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org-20101027192603-kzto5iuvvptg20bx * debian/ (24 files in 2 dirs) (log message trimmed)
[20:26] <CIA-96> koffice (1:2.2.83-0ubuntu1) natty; urgency=low * Merge with Debian git remaining
[20:26] <CIA-96> changes: - Add build-deps on librcps-dev, opengtl-dev, libqtgtl-dev,
[21:04]  * txwikinger tries to figure out if anybody assigned him any action items
[21:04] <shtylman> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuBacklog
[21:04] <shtylman> we should look at adding and maintaining this document :)
[21:05] <txwikinger> shtylman: yes indeed
[21:06]  * txwikinger wonders how ScottK gets to do any paid work
[21:06] <txwikinger> if I would read all the channels I am in, I would not do anything else
[21:09] <txwikinger> hmm.. which session should I goto now?
[21:10] <txwikinger> So what was the conclusion from last session?
[21:11] <shadeslayer> txwikinger: Riddell is going to schedule another session to complete the discussion
[21:11] <txwikinger> cool
[21:11] <txwikinger> when?
[21:11] <shadeslayer> dunno
[21:11] <shadeslayer> udslogger: where are you?
[21:11] <shadeslayer> txwikinger: probably tmmrq
[21:12] <shadeslayer> tmmrw
[21:12] <txwikinger> ok
[21:12] <txwikinger> no more Kubuntu session left today, right?
[21:13] <shadeslayer> dont think so
[21:13] <shadeslayer> im in the backports one
[21:20] <Riddell> txwikinger: when would you like me to schedule it?
[21:23] <Riddell> shadeslayer: who's the guy that wanted me to get a server for KDE?
[21:23] <shadeslayer> Riddell: its sayakb from #kde-www
[21:24] <shadeslayer> Riddell: did you get one?
[21:24] <Riddell> I think so :)
[21:24] <shadeslayer> ( you could proabably ask anyone in #kde-www to set it up or whatever )
[21:25] <Riddell> ScottK: I take it I need to reschedule the kolab server session?
[21:26] <shadeslayer> Riddell: hes busy speaking backport language in Bonaire 1
[21:26] <shadeslayer> :P
[21:39] <udslogger> shadeslayer: visiting mickey
[21:39] <udslogger> like srsly
[21:39] <shadeslayer> udslogger: whaaa
[21:39] <shadeslayer> udslogger: where?
[21:39] <shadeslayer> :P
[21:39] <udslogger> disney world
[21:40] <shadeslayer> udslogger: really?
[21:40] <shadeslayer> why did you not tell me!!!!
[21:40] <ScottK> Riddell: Shoot.  Yes.
[21:40] <ScottK> Didn't see it.
[21:40] <shadeslayer> udslogger: damn you!
[21:40] <Riddell> shadeslayer: go to reception quickly and ask if there are any more tickets left
[21:40] <shadeslayer> coming
[21:41] <udslogger> maco: yes you can ask me for c++ ;)
[21:41] <Riddell> ScottK: I guess I need to e-mail paul and ask for a time
[21:41] <udslogger> in fact you can also come and sit next to me and ask me in person ;)
[21:41] <maco> udslogger: too late, Riddell got it
[21:41]  * maco compils
[21:41] <udslogger> ohke ^^
[21:41] <maco> *compiles
[21:41] <maco> not quite done, but...close!
[21:41] <udslogger> so, why did I start quassel actually...
[21:43] <shtylman> ScottK: I sent the tweet to kubuntu_news asking for the logo change
[21:43] <shtylman> shall see if anything comes of it
[21:44] <ScottK> shtylman: Thanks.
[21:45] <Quintasan> oh god
[21:45] <Quintasan> it turned out sooo bad
[21:45] <rgreening> lots of turbulance in koffice
[21:47] <shtylman> rgreening: how come?
[21:47] <rgreening> some split about to happen. just reading th elists on kde now
[21:48] <shtylman> what split?
[21:48] <shtylman> more drama?
[21:52] <rgreening> yar
[21:53] <shtylman> what is it this time?
[21:53] <lontra> hi where can i get a .svg of the new kubuntu icon?
[21:53] <shtylman> who is complaining about what?
[21:53] <shtylman> lontra: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuArtwork
[21:53] <maco> Riddell: can you come to bonaire 7?
[21:53] <lontra> shtylman: thanks
[21:54] <lontra> shtylman: do you know where i can get just the icon and not the wording or is it there too somewhere?
[21:54] <shtylman> lontra: just download the whole svg and delete the wording
[21:54] <shtylman> :)
[21:55] <lontra> hmm i'll see what i can do
[21:56] <shtylman> inkscape is a good editor for that
[21:56] <shtylman> I guess we should post just the icon someplace
[21:56] <lontra> shtylman: yeah i was going to try inkscape
[21:58]  * udslogger turns into a butterfly and flies away
[22:06] <lontra> shtylman: yeah that's not working too well for me
[22:07] <shtylman> lontra: what format do you want the icon in? svg?
[22:07] <lontra> yeah
[22:07] <Riddell> maco: what's in bonaire 7?
[22:08] <lontra> shtylman: i want it to replace the kmenu icon
[22:08] <shtylman> are you running lucid?
[22:08] <lontra> maverick
[22:08] <shtylman> k
[22:08] <shtylman> there is already an icon packaged
[22:08] <lontra> oh
[22:09] <shtylman> if you click on other icons in the (change icon dialog) for the kmenu
[22:09] <shtylman> you will see the icon
[22:09] <lontra> oh you're right!
[22:09] <lontra> much easier ;)
[22:10] <lontra> thanks
[22:29] <udslogger> dantti: if the pk transactions database is busted the daemon will go down and there is no way for a user to know what is going on
[22:29] <udslogger> kpk will just say that a transaction failed or something
[22:30] <udslogger> there really should be a way to recover from that ... like if the database is busted, just remove it and recreate
[22:30] <shadeslayer> udslogger: whats KonqSettings::openWithItems() ?? ideas?
[22:31] <udslogger> it opens with items
[22:32] <udslogger> JontheEchidna: ping
[22:32] <udslogger> JontheEchidna: ping ping
[22:32] <JontheEchidna> udslogger: pong
[22:32] <udslogger> JontheEchidna: ping ping ping
[22:32] <JontheEchidna> udslogger: pong pong
[22:32] <JontheEchidna> udslogger: pong pong pong
[22:33] <maco> udslogger: http://doc.qt.nokia.com/4.7/qdomnamednodemap.html  <-- this is confusing :(  
[22:33] <udslogger> JontheEchidna: yo, can you try kubuntu-debug-installer /usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/dri/i810_dri.so
[22:33] <JontheEchidna> lol
[22:33] <JontheEchidna> phail
[22:33]  * JontheEchidna loads up gdb
[22:33] <udslogger> JontheEchidna: for me it seems m_backend->packageForFile(file); is not returning anything
[22:33] <udslogger> not entirely sure if it is my system or qapt
[22:34] <udslogger> maco: how so?
[22:34] <udslogger> maco: where are you?
[22:34] <JontheEchidna> it should at least return 0 if no package was found
[22:34]  * udslogger is a bit bored here
[22:34] <udslogger> JontheEchidna: no
[22:34] <udslogger> 2 is return for no package found
[22:34] <udslogger> #define ERR_NO_SYMBOLS 2
[22:35] <JontheEchidna> I mean, packageForFile
[22:35] <JontheEchidna> http://paste.ubuntu.com/521019/
[22:35] <udslogger> shadeslayer is copying code from supremekonqueror and does not know what it does :P
[22:35] <shadeslayer> hahha
[22:36] <shadeslayer> :P
[22:36] <udslogger> JontheEchidna: oh, well, does it not return 0?
[22:36] <shadeslayer> ( thats true :P )
[22:36] <udslogger> my gdb is a bit strange today, so I couldnt tell
[22:36] <JontheEchidna> lemme start gdb
[22:36] <shadeslayer> heh
[22:36] <shadeslayer> supreme udslogger's gdb is broken
[22:36] <shadeslayer> along with his polkit
[22:36] <udslogger> I did not say broken, it is just acting strange
[22:36] <udslogger> maybe it is having a bad day
[22:36] <shadeslayer> broken .... strange.... big difference 
[22:37] <udslogger> like it also went drinking with ScottK
[22:37] <JontheEchidna> aha
[22:37] <JontheEchidna> it's crashing in package->installedFilesList()
[22:37] <udslogger> JontheEchidna: doesnt crash here :O
[22:37] <ScottK> ;-)
[22:37] <udslogger> just goes I aint not knowing that stupid package you stupid fplease
[22:37] <shadeslayer> oh oh oh 
[22:38] <JontheEchidna> oh, it crashes here
[22:38] <JontheEchidna> thought that was what you were talking about
[22:38] <udslogger> shadeslayer just explained to me that qmax(1,0) will return 1 :P
[22:38] <JontheEchidna> Though I think I know what recent change broke that
[22:38] <shadeslayer> :P
[22:38] <udslogger> JontheEchidna: no, it returns nothing and in turn means kdi will not find a dbg package
[22:38] <shadeslayer> udslogger is getting old 
[22:38] <udslogger> which sux
[22:38] <udslogger> yes
[22:39] <JontheEchidna> udslogger: wouldn't /usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/dri/i810_dri.so already be in a -dbg package?
[22:39] <udslogger> JontheEchidna: oh
[22:39] <shadeslayer> udslogger should train me to become next udslogger
[22:39] <udslogger> ah
[22:39] <udslogger> ehm
[22:39]  * udslogger is ashamed
[22:39] <JontheEchidna> ;)
[22:39] <JontheEchidna> udslogger: thanks tho, you caught a crash in trunk
[22:40] <udslogger> well
[22:40] <udslogger> JontheEchidna: /usr/lib/dri/i965_dri.so doesnt work either
[22:40] <ScottK> udslogger: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/phonon/4:4.7.0really4.4.2-1ubuntu2
[22:40] <udslogger> kdi also terminates with 2
[22:40] <ScottK> Thank you.
[22:40] <udslogger> yay
[22:40]  * udslogger is supreme
[22:41] <shadeslayer> ScottK: only 2 vars left to fix
[22:41] <shadeslayer> and then rekonq should have open with
[22:42] <udslogger> so he said without knowing what the code actually does
[22:42] <udslogger> ...
[22:42] <shadeslayer> udslogger: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+recipe/qtwebkit/+build/5794
[22:42]  * udslogger is going to look for maco
[22:42] <udslogger> ...
[22:42] <CIA-96> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1190494 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/package.cpp Only do removeLast on non-empty file lists. ;-) Fixes a crash in trunk. Thanks to udslogger.
[22:42] <shadeslayer> ScottK: can you show https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+recipe/qtwebkit/+build/5794 to someone who works on lp ?
[22:42] <shadeslayer> something is broken
[22:43] <ScottK> shadeslayer: I'm not sure who to talk to on LP stuff.
[22:44] <maco> udslogger: im in the big hallway next to the curacao little hal
[22:44] <JontheEchidna> udslogger: I checked, and adding the qDebug function to line 7 did make it output the correct package name: http://paste.ubuntu.com/521028/
[22:44] <JontheEchidna> udslogger: I can confirm the failure though
[22:46] <JontheEchidna> I'll dig around in k-d-i
[22:46] <shtylman> Riddell: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuBacklog 
[22:47] <shtylman> got some blueprints/piratepads with items needing adding?
[22:47] <shtylman> I will gladly add things
[22:47] <shadeslayer> bah
[22:48] <shadeslayer> ill ask stevek
[22:48] <CIA-96> [trunk] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20101027214815-nnv9ro1sm60as5rz * src/DebugFinder.cpp Indentation fix.
[22:51] <JontheEchidna> oh
[22:51] <JontheEchidna> ah
[22:51] <JontheEchidna> udslogger: I know what the problem is
[22:52] <JontheEchidna> DebugFinder::getDebPkg only tries adding -dbg or -dbgsym to the package's source package name
[22:52] <JontheEchidna> e.g. kate's debug symbols are in kdesdk-dbg
[22:52] <JontheEchidna> but the intel driver is in libgl1-mesa-dri
[22:52] <JontheEchidna> and libgl1-mesa-dri's debug symbols are in libgl1-mesa-dri-dbg
[22:53] <JontheEchidna> but libgl1-mesa-dri's source package is mesa
[22:53] <JontheEchidna> should be easy enough to add a fallback for binary package name + "-dbg" || + "-dbgsym
[22:53] <JontheEchidna> "
[22:55] <debfx> JontheEchidna: it should look for the .so file in /usr/lib/debug instead of guessing the debug package name
[22:55] <JontheEchidna> debfx: that would only work if the debug package was installed
[22:55] <shadeslayer> plugActionList ... what is that!!!!!!
[22:55] <JontheEchidna> udslogger: http://imgur.com/BSfTg
[22:55] <udslogger> maco: QString code = node.attributes().namedItem("code").nodeValue();
[22:56] <udslogger> yippeee
[22:56] <debfx> in that case it needs to depend on apt-file :P
[22:57] <JontheEchidna> apt-file is unreliable. it didn't work for me for all of the karmic and lucid cycles
[22:59] <CIA-96> [trunk] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20101027215907-izdf056nsh7dui85 * (debian/changelog src/DebugFinder.cpp) Some packages' debug packages follow the format binaryPackageName + "-dbg". Use this as a fallback in case the semi-standard sourcePackageName + ("-dbg" || "-dbgsym") rule hasn't been followed.
[23:01] <debfx> it works for me but reimplementing it wouldn't be hard
[23:01] <debfx> the only issue is that the Contents files are quite large
[23:02] <JontheEchidna> wow, finally works in natty
[23:02] <debfx> ok, they are very large (17 MB) ^^
[23:03] <JontheEchidna> what would be cool is if there could be a -dbg naming standard
[23:04] <JontheEchidna> maybe we could get the "-dbgsym from ddebs.ubuntu.com" thing working more reliably. Then we would know that it would be sourcePackage + -dbgsym
[23:06] <JontheEchidna> udslogger: you wanna release an 11.04ubuntu1 of k-d-i or should I?
[23:11] <JontheEchidna> oops, left in a few kdebugs
[23:11] <debfx> how is ddebs.u.c unreliable?
[23:13] <JontheEchidna> k-d-i's support of it is
[23:13] <JontheEchidna> doesn't check to see if it's in the sources.list
[23:13] <JontheEchidna> so if it wasn't already enabled, it's going to be pretty much useless
[23:13] <CIA-96> [trunk] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20101027221142-35lbblrwga51j3ch * src/ (DebugFinder.cpp DebugFinder.h) (log message trimmed)
[23:13] <CIA-96> kDebug() cleanup. Also rename getDebPkg to getDbgPkg. I changed the
[23:13] <CIA-96> functionality of getDebPkg into a debug package getter during the QApt port, but
[23:13] <JontheEchidna> not any fault of the ddebs repo
[23:15] <debfx> ah, yes
[23:15] <JontheEchidna> I think that if the user wants to search for dbg symbols it should: 1) Add ddebs uri to sources.list, 2) check for updates, 3) Install dbg packages, 4) remove URI and re-update in the background
[23:16] <JontheEchidna> wouldn't be too hard, since all you have to do is plunk down a file in /etc/sources.list.d/, get the gpg key, and update the cache
[23:16] <JontheEchidna> */etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[23:17] <JontheEchidna> and as it just so happens, I wrote a "write file as root" function in the QApt Worker for config writing that could be used for this
[23:22] <debfx> that wouldn't work for ppa packages though
[23:22] <JontheEchidna> true...
[23:22] <CIA-96> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1190510 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/config.cpp SVN_SILENT: Style fix.
[23:26] <JontheEchidna> It'd be neat if you could run pkgbinarymangler on ppas for dbgsym separation only