[00:00] still no go, grub2 doesn't work. I just get a blinking cursor on a black screen. [00:00] tried pressing shift to get a menu (according to some wiki), nothing [00:07] nowhere in the grub2 page does it mention the case where nothing happens at all :( [00:08] dfaure: that shounds like the bios is trying a boot a disk without a boot loader [00:09] dfaure: do you ahve more then one hdd? [00:09] indeed there are two [00:09] dfaure: then either install grub to the other disk, or change the boot order in the bios [00:09] * James147 prefures to change the boot order and insall grub the the disk with the os on... [00:10] yeah, especially since the small secondary disk (sdb) is planned to go away once this works ;) [00:12] alas, the boot order seems fine (CD, floppy, big disk) [00:13] dfaure: then are you sure you installed grub to the right disk? (to the actual disk not a parition ie /dev/sda not /dev/sda1) [00:14] * James147 wonders why floppy is before the hdd.... dose anyone use them any more? [00:14] yeah, I used grub-install /dev/sda -- and anyway the kubuntu 10.04 installation has probably done that too... [00:15] dfaure: /dev/sda is the larger hdd? [00:15] yep [00:15] I don't need to mark partitions as bootable, right? [00:16] dfaure: is it not? [00:17] no, the installer created the partitions (into the unallocated space, as requested), but didn't mark the "/" partition as bootable. I assume this doesn't matter though, with grub on /dev/sda. [00:25] hmm there was no /boot/grub/device.map, I had to run grub-mkdevicemap to generate it... [00:25] and still update-grub says "cannot find list of partitions" === blackbart is now known as Guest11617 [00:43] nabo dule entra con alegria [01:11] whenever i try to start qtcreator via the launcher (alt+f2) it tries to start an old version from my home dir which i deleted long ago [01:11] where does it store / get that information from and why doesn't it update itself? [01:15] muesli: there might be a .desktop file left in ~/.local/share/applications [01:16] dfaure: indeed, thanks :) [01:17] dfaure: you know, the launcher (applications plugin) could stat() the binary to see if it's even worth displaying the entry [01:17] usually desktop files have Exec=foo, not Exec=/full/path/to/foo [01:17] dfaure: but i guess i should point that in aaron's directions [01:18] even without an absolute path we could check for a valid binary in the path [01:18] and then if you have a /usr/bin/qtcreator your local qtcreator.desktop file would hide the global one and nothing would have been shown == worse [01:18] even tho it's unlikely that it'd fail in this case [01:18] it's clearly because i manually installed qtcreator at some point [01:18] and extracting the binary name from the Exec line isn't even 100% safe, there could be a whole shell command in there. [01:19] dfaure: no, because then the local one would either be path-less (exec=qtcreator, works) [01:19] or it would be with the /home path and therefore invalid, never hiding the global one [01:19] wrong. The way desktop files work, is that local hides global, no matter what. [01:20] dfaure: ah, i guess that's only for desktop files with the same name then [01:20] sure [01:20] ok, didn't hide my global qtcreator then since it was a different .desktop filename [01:21] ok [01:22] still argueable, if it makes sense that a invalid local desktop file would overrule a global one [01:22] but i guess it's not worth the effort arguing ;-) [01:23] definitely not. It's standard, and has been the case since kde1, and it's really a feature, in the big picture. [01:24] (and the file is not invalid) [01:25] dfaure: just curious now. why would you show a "dead" .desktop link to the user? [01:25] we don't know it's dead. It looks perfectly valid. [01:26] dfaure: well, that's what i'm saying: we should check if it's dead to see if it's really valid. not just guess it [01:26] if we take the time in kbuildsycoca to look around for executables (!), and store in ksycoca "this desktop file is invalid" then when you (re) install the binary, it will still be marked as invalid.... [01:26] this is just not practical [01:27] hm, i wasn't even planning to store that info [01:27] the launcher should just check for it [01:27] won't make it any faster ;) [01:27] i haven't complained about speed so far ;-) [01:28] * dfaure has ;) [01:28] well, anyways. just curious and wanted to pick your brain... it's too little of a problem in reality [01:29] i'd assume, at least [01:29] * dfaure goes to bed - cu [01:29] nn === kenny is now known as Guest28558 [02:41] according to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPod, i should be able to plug in and use my ipod touch [02:41] but it just mocks me by doing nothing in amarok and gtkpod [02:42] new to linux. anyone around that has some time to assist? [02:43] davidearney: 1st lesson: just ask. [02:43] I'm trying to get my laptop working on wireless. [02:44] I can't seem to connect to the router here. [02:44] not my router, and I can connect on my Mac, and on a Windows boot.... [02:44] but not Ubuntu [02:44] well, kubuntu 10.10 64-bit to be exact. [02:45] and I'm not sure why. [02:46] When I do a sudo lshw -C network, I'm not seeing any obvious problems based on descriptions from the documentation. [02:48] im a newb but i got it working the other day [02:49] using broadcom hardware? [02:49] yes [02:49] 1 sec, ill give you a link [02:50] BCM4312 on a Dell e6550 [02:50] driver problem? even though kubuntu seems to recognize the hardware? [02:51] I mean, I'm even seeing a driverversion=5.60.48.36 [02:52] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/572777 [02:52] Launchpad bug 572777 in bcmwl (Ubuntu) "NetworkManager or wpa_supplicant timing out when connecting wireless" [Medium,Confirmed] [02:52] comment 27 and 28 [02:53] seemed to do it for me [02:55] thanks. Looking now. [02:55] welcome [02:55] hope it works for you [02:56] I'm trying hard to give Linux a try. I've walked away from it in the past, and I just hate Windows enough that I'm willing to tough it out a bit longer this time. [02:56] LOL [02:56] lol, same here [02:56] once you do get it connected [02:57] you will probably want to disable ipv6 also [02:57] if you have slow browsing issues [02:57] thats the other issue i ran into [02:57] hmmmm. [02:58] http://www.webupd8.org/2010/05/how-to-disable-ipv6-in-ubuntu-1004.html -- incase you need it [02:58] gonna log [02:58] night [02:59] I guess I can do that get from a USB stick [03:44] how do you use kpackagekit to install a package from a USB stick? [03:52] davidearney: i would not know, but installing such a package would be easy from the command line [03:53] davidearney: i can tell you how, if you'd like to give it a try [03:53] sure [03:54] I have the file on a USB stick [03:54] davidearney: is this package from an official ubuntu repository? (just curious) [03:54] the package is wpasupplicant_0.6.10.orig.tar.gz and I got it from http://packages.debian.org/sid/wpasupplicant [03:55] davidearney: is there a reason why you would need this package as opposed to the wpasupplicant that comes with kubuntu by default? [03:56] wifi isn't working [03:56] davidearney: you should just be able to double-click it to install, but iirc wpasupplicant is already installed by default [03:56] I'm trying to get my broadcom 4322 on a dell e6550 to work. [03:56] I'm having some wireless problems. [03:57] davidearney: i don't think that installing this package is what you want to do [03:57] I'm running kubuntu 10.10 [03:57] okay.... [03:57] let me describe my problem [03:57] I'm not on my own network, for one. [03:57] LOL [03:57] davidearney: have you tried running 'additional drivers' (kde-jockey) [03:58] I have not....I'm brand spanking new to linux. I installed earlier this evening. [03:58] I'm in IRC on my MacBook Pro trying to figure this out. [03:59] ok, go to your main kde menu, go to 'system', then select 'additional drivers' [03:59] the most I've figured out how to do so far was get my machine dual booting with Windows and kubuntu. [03:59] davidearney: you do have a network connection , do you not? [03:59] I do not. wireless only. [03:59] internet connection* [03:59] but you are connected to the internet? [03:59] I'm not at home. I'm travelling....and will be doing so for months. [03:59] yes, on my Mac. [03:59] ahh [03:59] not on my linux box. [04:00] davidearney: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx?highlight=%28BCM4322%29 [04:00] more info there, tho some of the gui instructions are Gnome-centric [04:00] davidearney: i think there is a good chance that if you could connect the PC to the internet via Ethernet, and the run 'additional drivers', that may get you off the ground [04:01] I agree with jmichaelx [04:01] Okay....let me move to another room with both laptops. === root is now known as Guest3789 [04:02] davidearney: also, let us know which version of kubunt you are using [04:02] kubuntu* [04:03] 10.10 64 bit [04:03] let me see if I can find my grandfather's switch in all of this mess in his computer room..... [04:04] davidearney: ok, give 'additional drivers' a try... i may take a few minutes [04:06] Okay, found the switch, and I'm running additional drivers now. [04:07] davidearney: keep us posted [04:08] looks like it's run [04:08] restarting now, for good measure. [04:09] good deal [04:09] davidearney: not really necessary, but won't hurt [04:09] so used to Windows....change a desktop background.....reboot [04:09] just a habit really. [04:10] broadcom has actually released some open source drivers for their wireless chipsets recently, so hopefully in the future, some of these bcm adapters will work out of the box [04:11] this is my first taste of linux on a personal box. At least for full deployment use. [04:11] If I like it, I'll just burn my W7 partitiion. [04:12] hmmmmm.... [04:13] interesting...now the box won't reboot at all. no dual boot prompt window or anything. [04:13] okay, good to go, had to reboot a second time. [04:16] Okay.....I'm at least seeing the card now. [04:19] Okay....step two jmichaelx [04:19] I'm able to see the network adapter, and the available network....but I can't connect. [04:20] it's a shitty old AT&T DSL modem here, and the encryption type is WEP.....do people even use that anymore? [04:20] ' [04:23] davidearney: people do still use WEP, but they shouldn't [04:23] it was sarcasm on my part. [04:23] LOL [04:23] looks like the linux box is attempting to negotiate an IP on wireless right now. [04:24] davidearney: i feel that with the correct info entered, you should be able to connect... double-check obvious things like the WEP key, etc [04:25] Now....whoever set up this network used a number as the passphrase....I'm going to set my key type to passphrase, right? [04:26] as opposed to Hex or ASCII Key [04:27] davidearney: likely... if that does not work, try hex (if the number could possibly be hex) [04:29] doesn't seem like it would be since it's only 10 digits, but I'll try both ways if necessary. [04:30] Okay, I'm connected. [04:30] For the moment. [04:31] thanks so much for your help everyone, especially jmichaelx [04:31] I'll get my updates and such installed and then come back when I know I've broken something else. [04:32] davidearney: hopefully your updates won't break anything! [04:32] davidearney: on another note, i do hope your laptop does not have mobile intel graphics, or you may be in for a rough ride [04:33] can you help me with looking that up? [04:33] what's the terminal query? [04:33] davidearney: open a terminal (i.e. Konsole), and enter 'lspci | grepVGA', and give us the output [04:34] oops.. [04:34] lspci | grep VGA [04:34] (there should be a space between 'grep' and 'VGA' [04:34] ) [04:34] ugh [04:35] not good [04:35] what does it say? [04:35] Intel Mobile 4 Series Chipset [04:35] rev 07 [04:35] you may be all right [04:35] give it a whirl [04:35] i have a laptop with the 945gm chipset... it's horrible in 10.10 [04:36] still planning to give it a whirl, and no problems with the little I've been using it. [04:36] I'll be interested to see how this works out for me. [04:36] davidearney: if you do have a lot of graphics problems, i would suggest installing 10.04.1 instead [04:37] I mostly compute for productivity these days, and I'm not trying to do anything like gaming on the platform. [04:37] browser recommendations? [04:38] davidearney: i recommend both firefox and chromium-browser.... the default browser 'rekonq' is not too bad either [04:38] Okay, I was planning on getting firefox and chromium [04:38] so no surprises there. [04:39] I'll be installing Open Office as well. [04:39] davidearney: open office should already be there [04:40] oh, didn't know it was bundled. [04:41] jmichaelx, I'll have a look. [04:41] I'll be damned. [04:42] recommended IRC utility? [04:42] or is quassel good enough? [04:44] i've never used quassel, so i cannot say. i really like konversation, personally [04:44] well, now I'm here on two machines [04:45] or I was anyway. [04:45] lol [04:45] had to reboot the Dell [04:45] all of the updates completed. [04:46] thanks for the help [04:46] I'll be back tomorrow more than likely, with more grilling for ya'll. [04:46] no problem at all, just glad that we were able to help [04:46] thanks very much. [05:15] i noticed i got one system running irqbalance, another one isn't [05:15] how / when does kubuntu decide to run it? === zz_Kalidarn is now known as Kalidarn [06:05] I've installed 'kdenetwork-filesharing' and tried dozens of things, I still cannot get one K-box to connect to another kubuntu box! HELP! can someone /msg and walk me thru this PLEASE [06:06] connects fine to a winblows shares. stupidly enuff [07:51] I set kwin's global shortcuts so that Meta + (numpad home, etc) would switch to desktops. While it seems to have accepted the shortcuts, they don't actually work. Any ideas why? [07:52] Eg, Meta + Home should switch to desktop 1. But it seems not to be working. [07:58] hi everyone, everytime i open up my PC i get a message from KDESudo: 'No command arguments supplied! Usage: kdesudo......' It's like there is a preconfigured action on every start up. The thing is that i have not put anything in ~/.kde/Autostart or anywhere else! Can anyone help? How can i disable this message dialog? [08:01] Well, it seems that it is a bug... I just googled it and came up with some info referring to it as a bug in prev versions as well. === muzer is now known as MuzerAway [09:21] hey all [09:21] i get this if i do a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade [09:21] warning, in file '/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 41518 package 'virtualbox-3.0': [09:21] error in Version string '3.0.12-54655_Ubuntu_karmic': invalid character in revision number [09:22] anyone here using a mac to run ubuntu [09:22] i have installed vbox version for 10.10.. vbox works.. think that entry is just a error from the 10.04 to 10.10 upgrade. how to remove that lines? [09:54] hi guys, can i aks a question about Kubuntu 10.4 (LTS) here too? [09:58] Hello, how I can build up an ad-hoc network in Kubuntu 10.10? [09:58] macro recorder (replay ) best pogram ???? [09:59] !macro [09:59] !replay [10:01] nebula, what is your question? [10:04] Sarper, I suggest a program for auto mouse click on the desktop ...??? [10:04] kinda like autohotkey for windows? [10:05] nebula, look here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4789903 [10:05] for k/ubuntu [10:07] nebula, http://xmacro.sourceforge.net/ will compile on any linux dist [10:09] hi guys I have 2 problems ... on my lenovo t60 the touchpad is not working ... drivers? the other is how does autofs work ... i can't get it running [10:09] autofs is not that important [10:10] smooph, get the synaptic drivers from the debian lenny dist and compile [10:10] kubuntu's version is slimmed to generice [10:10] generic* [10:12] Sarper: thanks [10:12] np [10:45] Sarper: Hey I have tried to find the package ... can you be of assistance [10:45] sure [10:46] hello!! [10:46] can anyone tell me how I can install kontact/kmail helpfiles? [10:47] smooph1, http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=xserver-xorg-input-synaptics [10:47] I have a message "the folder or file 'help:/kontact/index.html' does not exist [10:48] I want to change the theme of the "message preview panel" that is located below my messages list in Kmail [10:49] chiiiiiz, it is usually located in ~/.kde3/ [10:49] you mean .kde4? Thanks [10:49] yeah [10:49] srry [10:50] I use Debian w/kde3 just here for tech supprot [10:50] support* [10:52] sorry, but a search for a htm* file in ~/.kde/ did not show anything dealing with kmail... only with kopete [10:56] chiiiiiz, that is because it is xml isnt it [10:58] the package manager tells me a more current version is already installed o.O [10:59] o, rly [10:59] well then Im not sure why it isnt loading [11:00] check your xorg.conf file [11:06] Ok. Maverick 10.10 is great but I need to get rid of pulseaudio and replace it with alsa. Does anybody know how to do this? [11:09] "sudo apt-get remove pulseaudio" ? [11:11] Yes... and there after "apt-get install alsa" perhaps..... === mike is now known as Guest83327 === tibi is now known as afd- === afd- is now known as afd_ [11:59] hey [12:00] im tryin to solve problems related to "hibernation" on 10.10....the first error i get is this: hibernate-disk:Warning: Tuxonice binary signature file not found. [12:02] im testin it by usin --dry-run.... sudo hibernate-disk -v2 --dry-run [12:02] anyone havin the same problem? [12:03] http://www.google.com/cse?cx=partner-pub-9300639326172081%3Ad9bbzbtli15&ie=UTF-8&sa=Search&q=hibernate-disk%3AWarning%3A+Tuxonice+binary+signature+file+not+found.&hl=en === ShaunoftheDead is now known as Shaun === root is now known as Guest65188 [12:18] hello [12:32] anyone uses KDE activities here? [12:33] I do [12:34] I have a problem, when I reboot/restart KDE my apps don't remember activities settings [12:35] for example firefox for "work" any help? [12:35] hello [12:35] I have a problem with my cpu frequency [12:36] I am on 10.04 LTS on my production machine .... whilst I really like the kde envrionment, the colour combination is doing my head in .... is there a way to definitively get rid of the windows colour and adopt either a green, or a brown (kind of human theme in ubuntu) or a soft purple .... I have tried in many ways, but I do not seem to be able to change all the colours so I awlays have some part of the windows or the panel or the plasmoid that [12:36] retain the old colour [12:36] Wolfcastle: what problem? [12:36] it seems to be set at 1.2 GHz when my max speed is 2Ghz [12:36] It may have ocurred after installing cpudyn i'm not sure [12:36] however I now installed cpufreqd instead [12:37] Tm_T: Do you have this problem too? [12:37] and I'm using cpufreq-set -r -f 2Ghz to change the frequency but nothing happens [12:37] ToxinPowe: hmmm, I don't know about that, sorry [12:37] cpufreq-info still shows I'm running at 1.2 GHz [12:37] Tm_T: ok, np [12:38] ct529: in systemsettings, you can change color scheme to your liking [12:38] any ideas? [12:39] Tm_T: nope, you can change a lot of things, but I want to remove the old colour scheme *completely *, without any track of the standard colour eithe rin the windows, the panel the plasmoid the bootstrap screen [12:39] Wolfcastle: just one sec [12:40] ct529: thanx [12:40] ct529: plasma has its own theme, but all the rest is handled thru the color scheme [12:40] ct529: I don't have any blue other than icons in my desktop (: [12:40] Wolfcastle: are you sure the frequency you have ste is among the allowed frequencies? [12:41] Wolfcastle: try first by setting the frequency for one sincgle CPU or core [12:41] yes I'm sure [12:41] http://pastebin.com/VxqpRWZb [12:42] ok i will try just one [12:43] ct529: nope nothing happens [12:43] hi [12:43] Wolfcastle: try cpufreq-set -c 0 -f 2.00 Ghz as root [12:44] Tm_T: what do you mean by plasma has its own colour theme? [12:44] gtkpod won't recognize my ipod touch second gen... it doesn't see it, and it isn't mounted anywhere where I can find it.. lsusb: gtkpod won't recognize my ipod touch second gen... [12:44] it doesn't see it, and it isn't mounted anywhere.... [12:44] eh? [12:44] Tm_T: If I change all the colours in the colours theme, I still have some areas in the windows that maintain the old colours [12:44] that's certainly no lsusb :p [12:45] lsusb: Bus 002 Device 006: ID 05ac:1293 Apple, Inc. iPod Touch 2.Gen [12:45] ct529: nope nothing, is it relevant that /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq is empty? [12:46] Wolfcastle: what do you mean empty? [12:46] ct529: there's no files in it [12:46] Wolfcastle: there should actually be directories in it [12:47] ct529: tried any other color scheme entirely? [12:47] Wolfcastle: which governor are you in? [12:47] is there someone who knows what i should do now? [12:47] ct529: however in /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/bios_limit the value is 1200000 [12:47] ct529: and about plasma, it uses its own themes, the color scheme doesn't affect to it much [12:47] Wolfcastle: what governor are you? [12:48] ct529: userspace it seems [12:48] Tm_T: what is covered by the plasma theme? [12:48] Wolfcastle: oh that is the problem .... [12:48] Wolfcastle: your userspace governor only allows 1.20 Ghz [12:48] Wolfcastle: your have to change governor [12:48] Wolfcastle: go to governor ondemand if you have it [12:48] ct529: the panel, desktop and widgets in it, some system dialogs [12:48] I did change it to performance and not much happened [12:49] Wolfcastle: no, change it to ondemand [12:49] ct529: i will try that thanx [12:49] Tm_T: yes, you see that is one of the problems .... I want to change the colours also there [12:50] ct529: then you have to change to some other plasma theme [12:50] ct529: ok now there is a ondemand directory there [12:50] Tm_T: oh I see .... I do not like any of ones I have seen. How do I develop a new one? [12:51] ct529: doesn't seem to be going any faster though [12:51] Wolfcastle: exactly .... and also a stats directory I imagine [12:51] nop no stats [12:51] Wolfcastle: no wait, now run cpufreq-info and pastebin please [12:52] ct529: ok http://pastebin.com/u0QkuPBZ [12:52] Anybody able to tell me why when I (knichel) ls -al Default/ I get http://pastie.org/1252509 but if I sudo ls -al Default/ I get http://pastie.org/1252496 [12:54] Wolfcastle: there is aproblem with the definition of your governors, look at line 12 [12:54] Wolfcastle: your governors do not allow you to change the frequency to anything but 1.20 Ghz [12:55] indeed [12:55] Wolfcastle: your have to modify the governor definition [12:55] any idea how to fix that, cause I don't [12:57] Wolfcastle: "cpufreq-set --min 1.20 GHz --max 2.00 GHz" as root in governor ondemand [12:57] ct529: plasma themes are mostly svg graphics, you can see tutorial in http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Plasma/Theme [12:57] Tm_T: thanks a lot for your help [12:57] Tm_T: is it also possible to change things like the radius of the corners of the windows? [12:58] ct529: depends on the windeco you're using, some window themes has settings for that [12:59] Tm_T: I meant if I wanted to do my own, I do not want to waste time anymore in trying to create satisfactory set ups, because I am unhappy with the results [13:00] ct529: ok i did that but that line still says the same [13:00] what an annoying bug [13:04] Wolfcastle: try that [13:04] Wolfcastle: cpufreq-set -c 0 -g ondemand --min 1.20Mhz --max 2.00Ghz [13:04] Wolfcastle: then pastebin the result of cpufreq-info [13:04] ok thanx [13:04] Wolfcastle: everything as root!!!! [13:04] yes of course [13:07] Tm_T: I would also like to modify the bootstrap sequence because that bubbly theme makes me sick :-D [13:07] ct529: still nothing dude: http://pastebin.com/gYGrTFCa [13:08] Wolfcastle: then there must be a bug in your cpufreq utils .... what version / what kubuntu release? [13:09] kubuntu 10.10 and cpufreqd 2.4.2 [13:09] that's nice [13:10] think i'll try out fedora 14 see how that works [13:10] Wolfcastle: try one last thing .... cpufreq-set -c 0 -g userspace, then cpufreq-set -c 0 -g userspace --min 1.20Mhz --max 2.00Ghz [13:10] ok [13:11] Wolfcastle: on the first cpu please (-c 0) [13:12] ct529: ok done, but I still get the between 1.20 and 1.20 [13:12] Wolfcastle: I am using 10.04 LTS with cpufrequtils 006. [13:12] Wolfcastle: are the cpufrequtils properly installed, could you please check with dpkg, synaptic or whatever your use? [13:13] Wolfcastle: could you please pastebin again? [13:14] http://pastebin.com/acjEQzVb [13:14] can anyone help me? every time I restart my ubuntu system (dell d630 laptop) with dockingstation with two external monitors. I setup my displays in "display and monitor"...everytime I reboot, I have to RE-Configure my monitors which is quite annoying, can anyone help me? [13:16] Wolfcastle: that is weird, it must be a bug with version 007-1. [13:16] Wolfcastle: sorry, I will not move to Maverick for another couple of months at least [13:16] yes very weird [13:16] np thanx for the help [13:17] ct529: you might be interested to know about aurorae, see http://kde-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=81 [13:17] it was working fine in 10.04 AFAIK [13:17] i just noticed it was a bit slow recently [13:17] Wolfcastle: it is definitively working fine on mine [13:18] Wolfcastle: the interesting thing is that the ondemand governor works fine on yours .... but still .... [13:19] I'll try it in some other distro to see if it works [13:26] Tm_T: thanks! what is Aurorae though? [13:27] ct529: windeco engine that uses similar themes than plasma [13:27] as in, you don't have to code your own windeco entirely [13:28] Tm_T: so by modifying the plasma theme, you also modify the windows decoration? [13:28] mm [13:28] lucid have not kde 4.5.2?^ [13:28] that is bad [13:28] ct529: no, but you can easily port the changes [13:28] Tm_T: I was hoping that creating new windows decoration and new plasma theme was much easier .... [13:28] Tm_T: thanks [13:28] ct529: you change image in one, you copy the changes over tro the other (: [13:29] Tm_T: I thought kde3 to kde4 was all about making it easier to build new desktop functionalities including themes [13:31] ct529: it is easier now, way easier [13:31] Tm_T: do you have any good link for changing the bootstrap / login theme as well? [13:32] unfortunately no [13:37] Tm_T: thanks for all your help .... [13:38] np, glad to be of any help [13:51] hello :> i'm using maverick, i was wondering if anyone else has had the following problem: occasionally when i log out i get an error stating that nepomuk-services has crashed, it gives the option to restart or file a bug report. it happens inconsistently so i'm not sure how to track down what's causing it :< === ty is now known as Guest67096 [14:01] ho, I have installed kvm on kubuntu 10.10 but when I launch virt-manager I am told: Error, no active connection to run on.... do you guys know what this is about? [14:02] I hav used this help page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Installation [14:06]