[00:11] <cupped> Hello
[00:11] <cupped> How long does it usually take to be approved on the launchpad group?
[02:57] <crimsun> bug 665471
[02:57] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 665471 in grub2 (Debian) (and 1 other project) "[natty] GRUB no longer finds kernel with separate /boot partition (affects: 10) (dups: 2) (heat: 66)" [Unknown,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/665471
[07:00] <nyo> Hi, I never reported a bug, I found one in ubiquity install, can I write about it here? its quite simple
[07:48] <RedSingularity> nyo:  Have you added the bug to launchpad?
[09:04] <RedSingularity> Anyone here able to change importance for me?
[09:10] <RedSingularity> If anyone sees this message can you please set bug 664265 to "Low"?
[09:10] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 664265 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) "Can't play flash videos full screen on firefox and google chrome with intel driver and compiz (affects: 3) (heat: 18)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/664265
[09:13] <nyo> RedSingularity Hi, i've just created a launchpad account
[09:13] <nyo> i should post about ubiquity? it's this the name of the app?
[09:13] <nyo> the installer app
[09:18] <RedSingularity> nyo:  you post yet?
[09:18] <nyo> no
[09:18] <RedSingularity> ok, can you post from the machine with the problem?
[09:19] <nyo> no, since i've got another prob with grub so now i'm reinstalling ubuntu
[09:19] <nyo> anyway
[09:20] <nyo> this is the text i've prepared for the bug
[09:20] <nyo> Hi, i would communicate that I find a little bug in the ubiquity install gui interface.
[09:20] <nyo> at the page of "personal information" in the Username field, it should make a red x if you put a Uppercase character or a number, instead now is working showing a green V. I was in a situation that all the field were "ok" with a green V but with the "go forward" button disabled.... then i figured out it was as explained above
[09:20] <nyo> is it clear enough?
[09:21] <RedSingularity> Yeah thats fine....you will also need to explain the steps to produce the error.
[09:21] <RedSingularity> so we can try and produce it ourselves
[09:21] <RedSingularity> Can you boot a live CD on the problem machine and post from the live cd to launchpad?
[09:21] <nyo> just boot with the livecd and start the install
[09:21] <nyo> ok i can do it
[09:22] <nyo> since i have to reinstall...
[09:22] <nyo> lol
[09:23] <RedSingularity> ok, there is a command to run and it will lead you through the different steps as well as add essential system info to the report.  Thats why you need to report this bug on the error computer.
[09:23] <RedSingularity> "from" the error computer i mean
[09:25] <nyo> ok
[09:26] <nyo> problem is that it requires me to put the pid
[09:26] <nyo> where is the field to write it?
[09:26] <RedSingularity> what is asking?
[09:27] <nyo> "what kind of prob you want to report? sound - display - security - other" i choose other and it put out an error telling i need to specify pid see --help etc
[09:27] <RedSingularity> launchpad is asking?
[09:27] <nyo> y
[09:27] <nyo> ubuntu-bug
[09:28] <nyo> right?
[09:28] <nyo> not launchpad
[09:28] <RedSingularity> ubuntu-bug ubiquity is the command to run
[09:28] <nyo> ahhhh
[09:28] <nyo> ok
[09:30] <RedSingularity> th3k0rn: you there?
[09:31] <nyo> anyway is not a real bug is a suggested hint to add to that window
[09:31] <th3k0rn> RedSingularity: yes, sort of
[09:31] <RedSingularity> th3k0rn: good man!  can you mark a bug "low" for me?
[09:31] <RedSingularity> nyo:  thats fine
[09:32] <th3k0rn> RedSingularity: sure, bug id?
[09:32] <RedSingularity> bug 664265
[09:32] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 664265 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) "Can't play flash videos full screen on firefox and google chrome with intel driver and compiz (affects: 3) (heat: 18)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/664265
[09:32] <th3k0rn> looking
[09:32] <RedSingularity> nyo:  we may be able to get "wishlist" for it
[09:32] <RedSingularity> nyo maybe...
[09:33] <nyo> but where should i put the text? in launchpad or in ubuntu-bug ?
[09:33] <RedSingularity> ubuntu-bug should have opened a launchpad page
[09:33] <nyo> ok i see now
[09:34] <nyo> the pc is slow now :D ehhe
[09:34] <RedSingularity> nyo old pc?
[09:34] <th3k0rn> RedSingularity: done
[09:35] <nyo> 1.73ghz
[09:35] <RedSingularity> th3k0rn Thanks so much!!  :)
[09:36] <RedSingularity> nyo: ahh i see
[09:36] <th3k0rn> RedSingularity: btw, instead of requesting sth. like rm -r ~/.mozilla, you should request   mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla.old
[09:37] <RedSingularity> th3k0rn:  yes i discussed it with micahg.  Will do next time :)
[09:37] <th3k0rn> okidoki, cool. I guess he alos told you about sudo not being neccessary there ;)
[09:38] <RedSingularity> th3k0rn:  lol yes sir
[09:38] <th3k0rn> super
[09:38] <RedSingularity> th3k0rn:   thanks again :)
[09:40] <RedSingularity> nyo:  done?
[09:40] <nyo> ok, bug: 667188
[09:40] <nyo> :)
[09:40] <nyo> going take coffe eheh see u later (15min)
[09:42] <RedSingularity> nyo:  I am headed to bed....I will take a look at the report tomorrow if no one else does.  :)
[09:43] <RedSingularity> bug 667188
[09:43] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 667188 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "not a real bug, I would suggest that a message is missing.. (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/667188
[09:44] <RedSingularity> nyo:  If there is any info still needed i will ask in the report.
[09:44]  * RedSingularity saying goodnight :)
[09:45] <thekorn> RedSingularity: wait
[09:45] <thekorn> it's a duplicate of bug 549195
[09:45] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 549195 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "Ubiquity should give visual feedback that username cannot contains capital letter(s) (affects: 8) (dups: 2) (heat: 63)" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/549195
[09:45] <RedSingularity> thekorn:  Really?  Lets see.
[09:46] <thekorn> ...as far as I understand the bugreport
[09:46] <RedSingularity> thekorn:  yes.  Seems like it...
[09:46] <RedSingularity> good catch so quick!
[09:46] <RedSingularity> I guess I will mark as duplicate then.
[09:46] <thekorn> yes please
[09:47] <RedSingularity> Marking......
[09:48] <RedSingularity> Done
[09:50] <thekorn> RedSingularity: super. now, sleep tight
[09:51] <RedSingularity> thekorn: lol  Will do!
[09:51]  * RedSingularity is finally off to bed
[09:51] <epos85> Hello. I have some bugs to report.
[09:55] <epos85> First. Myspell(Myspell-nb) gives me many lines(bad flagvector) in terminal when:$ sudo gedit file. Logs from otrace tells me that something is wrong with myspell-nb.
[09:57] <epos85> Second. Mouseproblems when using external mouse and having laptop with touchpad. Sometimes i have to click with touchpad buttons to get the other mouse-buttons working again.
[09:59] <epos85> Not only that. I have tried to deactivate touchpad(cause its annoying when using mouse) in synaptics and gpointing-device-settings. But touchpad go active sometime after again.
[10:00] <shankao> you should be using launchpad for filling bugs
[10:00] <epos85> ?
[10:00] <shankao> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[10:01] <epos85> Source: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad:: IRC: Ubuntu BugSquad members can always be contacted through IRC on the #ubuntu-bugs channel on irc.freenode.org for help or collaboration.
[10:01] <shankao> yes, but launchpad will make your bug permanet and accessible to a wider range of people that are not here or not now
[10:02] <epos85> Feel free to update site then. I actually installed irssi to write here.
[10:02] <shankao> I use to think on the irc channel as a complement to that, not the primary way to post bugs
[10:03] <shankao> for reporting bugs, you should also use the command "ubuntu-bug packagename"
[10:04] <shankao> that automatically takes the necessary info from your system (i.e. logs, versions installed) so devs. can actually make something about the bug
[10:04] <shankao> that all is indicated in the wiki page I have told about
[10:06] <epos85> And btw. I have reported error at launchpad earlier
[10:06] <epos85> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/myspell/+bug/657052
[10:06] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 657052 in myspell (Ubuntu) "error when i save a file (affects: 3) (heat: 244)" [Undecided,New]
[10:09] <thekorn> hmm, let's see, I've seen such bug before
[10:09] <thekorn> epos85: your bug is a duplicate of bug 583911
[10:09] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 583911 in gedit (Ubuntu) "bad flag alias index & bad flag vector alias errors (affects: 9) (heat: 37)" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/583911
[10:10] <thekorn> epos85: I will mark it as such, thanks for reporting it
[10:11] <epos85> Importance should be greater than low. Its affecting the distro system-wide
[10:12] <thekorn> epos85: so, you see the same error for other applications?
[10:12] <thekorn> or what do you mean by system-wide?
[10:12] <epos85> Ooo-applications, gedit, etc.. Slow, have to be killed sometimes. Takes many seconds to close applications.
[10:13] <epos85> Every applications that use myspell
[10:14] <epos85> Ex. When i do: sudo gedit /etc/modules .. I get many 'bad flagvector' when opening. And same thing when saving/closing.
[10:14] <epos85> Had no problems with myspell in 10.04
[10:16] <thekorn> epos85: sorry, I've no time right now to look closer at this bug, but I will later today. Maybe there are even more duplicates of this issue in launchpad, which would of course result in a higher importance
[10:16] <epos85> A newb ubuntu user told me that his Ubuntu was slower than Windows 7 in WmWare. He said that "Notepad didnt take forever to close".
[10:16] <epos85> Thanks
[10:17] <epos85> I also want to notice about gpointing-device-settings and synaptic and mouse application. Its impossible to deactivate touchpad
[10:18] <epos85> Or should i post a new Bug?
[10:18] <thekorn> epos85: best is to post a new bug
[10:18] <epos85> Ill do.
[10:18] <thekorn> that's the best way to get the attation of relevant people
[10:18] <thekorn> although it might take some time ;)
[10:19] <thekorn> but we are early in the release cycle, so there is a good chance
[10:19] <epos85> Hehe. Ive noticed. But its actually the Myspell that kills my joy. Im using my laptop at school.
[10:20] <epos85> 10.04 had no bugs like this, so i hope its a isolated error
[10:20] <epos85> Thanks for now. Ping me if i can assist.
[12:20] <kcj> Is there any way I can stop this happening https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/665734 It really isn't fun anymore.
[12:20] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 665734 in xorg (Ubuntu) "Xorg freezes when viewing website in Firefox. (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New]
[12:21] <kcj> brb
[12:35] <kcj> Hello?
[15:10] <pedro_> vish, https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+milestones
[15:10] <vish> pedro_: thx..
[15:10] <pedro_> you're welcome
[15:49] <psusi> bug #502699 for some reason is tracked in lucid... shouldn't that only be the case if it is requesting an SRU?  Since this doesn't seem to make a case for an SRU, should that task be closed?
[15:49] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 502699 in cryptsetup (Ubuntu Lucid) (and 1 other project) "upgrade to cryptsetup 1.1.0 (affects: 7) (heat: 14)" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/502699
[15:52] <jibel> psusi, only lucid is affected by this so the status is correct, but the dev task should be set to 'fix released'
[15:57] <psusi> jibel: yea, I just set the dev task to fix released, but why is there a lucid task when this isn't apparently a request for an SRU?
[15:57] <psusi> and without an SRU, it will not be fixed in lucid
[17:05] <mortal> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/667336 <- weird
[17:05] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 667336 in compiz (Ubuntu) "weird compiz crash, pointer on top of a long url in pidgin, compiz crashes (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[19:07] <RedSingularity> micahg:  The "importance" page says to forward all triaged/confirmed bugs upstream.  Is this true?
[19:08] <RedSingularity> The triage page i mean
[19:28] <micahg> RedSingularity: if it's an upstream issue, yes, not everything is an upstream issue
[19:29] <RedSingularity> micahg:  whats an example of an upstream issue?
[19:30] <micahg> RedSingularity: generally something in the app itself, not install failures or menu issues
[19:32] <RedSingularity> micahg:  Is bug 643736 forwarded upstream?  I see it has been assigned to mozilla bugs
[19:32] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 643736 in thunderbird (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) ""What's new in Thunderbird 3" reappears on minor upgrades (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 20)" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/643736
[19:32] <micahg> RedSingularity: yes, that's what an upstream bug link looks like
[19:34] <RedSingularity> micahg:  I have another "wishlist" item.  Should bug 638744 be forwarded?
[19:34] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 638744 in update-manager (Ubuntu) ""Restart to complete update" should not be signaled until the update has completed (affects: 2) (heat: 12)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/638744
[19:35] <micahg> RedSingularity: no, we're upstream for update-manager
[19:36] <micahg> RedSingularity: also, ,you might want to check for dups in that bug
[19:36] <RedSingularity> micahg: Where do you see that we are upstream?
[19:37] <micahg> RedSingularity: well technically we're not, there is an upstream project, but bugs for update-manager are generally kept in Ubuntu
[19:37]  * micahg wonders if we ever got a list of packages where we *don't* forward bugs
[19:38] <RedSingularity> micahg:  Yes that would be nice
[19:39] <RedSingularity> micahg:  that bug is confirmed.  I tested it on another machine as well.  Cant it be "triaged"?
[19:40] <micahg> RedSingularity: have you checked for duplicates?
[19:40] <RedSingularity> micahg doing so......stand by
[19:42] <njin> micahg: who blame here? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/665947 video attached (nautilus?)
[19:42] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 665947 in ubuntu ""Open With" section of properties dialogue starts re-adding applications (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Incomplete]
[19:43] <RedSingularity> micahg:  doesnt seem to be any dups
[19:43] <micahg> njin: to find out what is running a window, run: 'xprop | grep CLASS' and click on the window
[19:44] <njin> micahg: Thanks a lot
[19:46] <micahg> RedSingularity: bug 409002
[19:46] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 409002 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "Restart prompt before update finished (affects: 4) (dups: 1) (heat: 38)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/409002
[19:47] <RedSingularity> micahg: I saw that....... even though its for another release tho??
[19:48] <micahg> RedSingularity: same wishlist, right?
[19:48] <RedSingularity> micahg:  yea
[19:49] <RedSingularity> micahg:  If that release had reached EOL would it still be a dup?
[19:49] <micahg> RedSingularity: yes, it's not a release specific request
[19:49] <RedSingularity> micahg:  ahhhh
[19:51] <RedSingularity> micahg:  so I mark my bug to the older one.  Can the older one be marked triaged then since it is connected with the more recent bug?
[19:51] <micahg> RedSingularity: yes
[19:51] <RedSingularity> micahg: i see, ok I will mark
[19:51] <micahg> not because it's connected, but because there's enough information for a developer
[19:52] <RedSingularity> micahg:  so if the original report didnt have the needed info I would have to get it even though It has been confirmed in the other bug?
[19:53] <micahg> RedSingularity: or dupe the other way
[19:53] <RedSingularity> mark the older as dup of the newer?
[19:53] <micahg> RedSingularity: we try to dupe to the older bug, but if the newer bug has more info, you can dupe to the newer one
[19:54] <RedSingularity> michag:  ok that makes sense
[19:56] <micahg> RedSingularity: generally asking if someone upgrades is not a good first triage question
[19:57] <RedSingularity> micahg: If they did upgrade tho i want to do it as well to reproduce....
[19:58] <micahg> RedSingularity: yes, but you can try to reproduce w/out knowing that...that should not be a factor most of the time, it's something to keep in the back of your mind, but in most cases not an issue
[19:58] <RedSingularity> micahg:  alright......saves me time as well :)
[20:01] <RedSingularity> micahg:  I guess you can mark bug 638744 "triaged".  I linked the other two because the more recent one seems to have a better flow of information and i has all the required data for the dev's.
[20:01] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 638744 in update-manager (Ubuntu) ""Restart to complete update" should not be signaled until the update has completed (affects: 6) (dups: 2) (heat: 116)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/638744
[20:01] <micahg> RedSingularity: the title was self explanatory in this case, but ok
[20:04] <RedSingularity> micahg:  is there a team that looks at "confirmed" bugs and makes sure they are ready for triage status?  I read that on a post on another site.
[20:07] <micahg> RedSingularity: well, that's for bugsquad to do, that's part of bug days
[20:07] <RedSingularity> micahg:  oh cool.  Do you have to be part of bug-control to participate?
[20:07] <micahg> RedSingularity: no
[20:08] <RedSingularity> micahg:  great
[21:38] <amastronardi> hi everyone
[21:39] <amastronardi> bug #645138 is requesting to upgrade a package to a version that is currently in beta
[21:39] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 645138 in spyder (Ubuntu) "update Spyder to Version 2 (affects: 1) (heat: 106)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/645138
[21:39] <amastronardi> Does Ubuntu include beta software by default? Shall I consider that request valid?
[21:40] <micahg> amastronardi: what's the bug #?
[21:40] <amastronardi> #645138
[21:40] <micahg> bug 645138
[21:40] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 645138 in spyder (Ubuntu) "update Spyder to Version 2 (affects: 1) (heat: 106)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/645138
[21:40] <micahg> amastronardi: hmm, I was looking into that, I think there's a request in Debian for it
[21:41] <micahg> oh, there's not a request in Debian
[21:42] <micahg> amastronardi: it depends on the maintainer in Debian or Ubuntu
[21:42] <amastronardi> if I'm not wrong, that package comes from debian
[21:44] <amastronardi> ubuntu maintainer is Ubuntu MOTU developers
[21:46] <micahg> amastronardi: why did you add a math tag?
[21:46] <amastronardi> because it is a math program
[21:46] <micahg> amastronardi: yes, but we don't use tags like that
[21:46] <amastronardi> ok, sorry... I didn't know :s
[21:47] <micahg> amastronardi: you can leave it for a developer who wants to deal with it I guess, most likely nothing will happen until 2 is released, but that depends on teh Debian maintainer or if an Ubuntu dev wants to do something with it
[21:48] <amastronardi> Do we have any doc about the use of tags? Or... can you explain me quickly how do we use tags here?
[21:48] <micahg> !tags | amastronardi
[21:48] <ubot2> amastronardi: We use some common tags for tracking bugs on Launchpad.net See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Tags for common usage.
[21:48] <amastronardi> ok, thanks, will leave that to a dev
[21:48] <amastronardi> thanks ;-)
[21:49] <micahg> amastronardi: generally any bugs which are requests to updating to a new version you can leave for the devs
[21:50] <amastronardi> micahg, in this case shall I use 'upgrade' tag?
[21:50] <micahg> amastronardi: sure
[21:51] <amastronardi> ok, just fixed that mistake
[22:19] <kcj> Can someone help me with this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/665734 ?
[22:19] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 665734 in xorg (Ubuntu) "Xorg freezes when viewing website in Firefox. (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New]
[22:21] <kcj> I found this: Oct 24 11:23:05 laptop0 kernel: [ 2952.597363] *pde = 4629b067
[22:21] <kcj> Here: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/58113737/messages
[22:22] <kcj> Is pde an invalid pointer that's causing the crash?
[22:28] <kcj> #ubuntu-x
[22:28] <kcj> oops
[22:50] <RedSingularity> micahg:  I deal with a lot of bugs where another user has the same problem and they post accordingly.  Should I have them make a new report or is it ok to have them posting on the other users bug?
[22:51] <micahg> RedSingularity: depends on the bug
[22:51] <RedSingularity> bug 666755
[22:51] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 666755 in firefox (Ubuntu) "Flash player crashes (blank area) on Ubuntu 10.10 (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/666755
[22:51] <RedSingularity> micahg:  perilla in this case
[22:55] <micahg> RedSingularity: well, this shouldn't really be happening anymore
[22:55] <RedSingularity> micahg:  what?  The bug they are describing?
[22:55] <micahg> RedSingularity: yes, in this case, the user should probably file a new support request
[22:56] <RedSingularity> micahg:  Why shouldn't it be happening?
[22:56] <micahg> RedSingularity: well, not exactly true, but it's an older issue I'll have to go into later
[22:57] <micahg> I have to run now
[22:57] <RedSingularity> no prob :)