[02:21] <psusi> is anyone over at UDS?  I didn't realize until today that it's actually across town from me, instead of on the other side of the world, and I'm debating bailing on work tomorrow to crash it
[02:22] <psusi> but I'm trying to figure out when the most opportune time to go would be and what I would do
[02:23] <achiang> psusi: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-n/2010-10-27/
[02:24] <psusi> yea... I don't really see anything there that jumps out at me as I need to go to...
[02:25] <psusi> though some face time with scott james remnant and cjwatson would not be amiss...
[02:26] <psusi> hehe... I actually got to meet DJ Delorie from redhat last week in california at the Renesas Devcon....
[06:01] <ggeorgy> from h
[15:58] <micahg> pitti: can you accept my -proposed ubufox upload before the Linaro freeze
[16:02] <jdstrand> dpm: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ufw/+bug/626178
[16:02] <neeraj> Hi, I am maintaining sugar packages for ubuntu. At present we have "sugar-0.88" in Maverick. At that time this package was synced from debian. Now for NAtty we want to rename the package to sugar-0.90 and replace the 0.88 one. But still we don't want to break sugar-0.88 users
[16:02] <neeraj> I mean on running upgrade, they should be able to install "sugar-0.88"
[16:09] <crimsun> neeraj: I'm unsure where your question is.
[16:11] <neeraj> crisum, when a user runs upgrade on "sugar-0.88" then it get replaced by "sugar-0.90". Here appart from changes in files, the package name also changes.
[16:12] <neeraj> The real messy situation is that even though the in the package names we have provided "sugar-0.88", "python-jarabe-0.88", but while installing they get installed in folder named "sugar", "jarabe" at revelant places.
[16:13] <crimsun> neeraj: I think that's diametrically opposed to your desire to keep both packages parallel-installable.  Also, we should have this conversation in #ubuntu-motu, probably.
[16:14] <neeraj> First I tried to install "sugar-90" manually, then it gave me conflict error that the contents are same as in sugar-0.88, but when I added sugar-0.88 in the control:: Replaces, Conficts fields, the error didn't go away
[16:15] <stgraber> akgraner: ping
[16:15] <neeraj> crimsun: Ok. Thanks for pointing that out. :)
[16:21] <darwin> hello everyone
[16:23] <darwin> does anyone know if it's possible to install ubuntu from a gentoo box that has no cd-reader?
[16:23] <micahg> darwin: USB?
[16:24] <darwin> micahg: don't have a usb drive available atm
[16:24] <darwin> :(
[16:26] <darwin> i sold my macbook pro yesterday and i'm stuck with this pentium 3 box for a couple of weeks
[16:26] <darwin> :)
[16:30] <slangasek> bdrung: so... who hand-picked eclipse-cdt for syncing from Debian unstable in the middle of the eclipse-cdt session? :)
[16:31] <tumbleweed> darwin: grab an installer netboot image file and tell grub to boot it ( http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick/main/installer-amd64/current/images/hd-media/ )
[16:31] <cjwatson> note that that only works if you don't need to repartition the disk that you're running the disk image from
[16:31] <bdrung> slangasek: i don't know.
[16:32] <slangasek> bdrung: huh, ok :)
[16:32] <slangasek> bdrung: I went to go do a batch sync of new packages into natty and was surprised to find that it was already in the queue... :)
[16:32] <darwin>  lol
[16:33] <darwin> tumbleweed: you rock
[16:33] <tumbleweed> cjwatson: oh good point
[16:33] <darwin> thnx
[16:33] <tumbleweed> darwin: ^ not what cjwatson said
[16:33] <tumbleweed> note
[16:33] <bdrung> slangasek: oh, you wanted to know who put eclipse-cdt into the queue? that was me.
[16:33] <darwin> i could keep the current partitioning so i guess im all go
[16:34] <slangasek> bdrung: ah; how was that injected?
[16:34] <bdrung> slangasek: syncpackage
[16:34] <slangasek> hmm
[16:34] <bdrung> but for new package sync request are better
[16:34] <slangasek> strange, LP appears to be giving me .changes files from the queue without GPG signatures
[16:35] <slangasek> bdrung: I disagree - having the archive admins batch-sync such packages from Debian as is supposed to happen is better :)
[16:36] <bdrung> slangasek: it was removed in karmic. would the batch-sync pull the new version of eclipse-cdt?
[16:36] <slangasek> yes
[16:37] <slangasek> hmm, eclipse-cdt is already in natty right now
[16:37] <pitti> slangasek: would ubufox maverick SRU be okay linaro-wise?
[16:37] <slangasek> so the one in the queue is redundant
[16:37] <pitti> slangasek: I'll review/accept linux-meta, since that goes together with the linux SRU
[16:38] <slangasek> pitti: what changes are in the SRU?  We have images pulling firefox, so we want to be sure that's in good shape
[16:39] <pitti> slangasek: fixes link to release notes and changelog (from lucid to maverick)
[16:39] <pitti> looks straightforward
[16:39] <slangasek> pitti: yeah, that's fine
[16:39] <pitti> right now you land on the lucid LP pages
[16:39] <slangasek> pitti: thanks for asking :)
[16:39] <pitti> ok, thanks
[16:40] <cjwatson> bdrung: I heartily agree with slangasek - please don't work around us being slow to process new packages in bulk, ask us instead
[16:40] <pitti> slangasek: btw, would you have a minute at some point to review the lucid udev SRU? (it's from me)
[16:40] <slangasek> pitti: I hope so - I got partway through the review then got yanked away
[16:40] <pitti> oh, cool
[16:40] <pitti> thanks
[16:46] <tumbleweed> pitti: re bug 666494 it's in the queue
[16:46] <pitti> tumbleweed: ah, ok
[17:15] <poolie> meeting now about bzr and ubuntu in #ubuntu-uds-curacao12
[17:58] <micahg> pitti: thanks
[18:00] <kpoman> hello to all ! guys, I had a failed upgrade. now everythiing is stuffed... and the machine is 2500km from here. I need to resume an upgrade via ssh. help !
[18:36] <benste> searching for a software-center developer -- someone here ?
[18:39] <manusheel> benste: Hi Benste.
[18:40] <benste> hi - could you tell me which kind of authentification it uses ? - because the auth isn't working anymore in multiple gnome parts too - but no one knows what to do - because all thought it would be gksu - which is working finde
[18:40] <benste> sry finde → fine
[18:40] <benste> manusheel: do you know something about this ?
[18:40] <psusi> should be policykit
[18:42] <benste> psusi: k looks like I'll have to troubleshoot this after dinner :-)
[18:42] <benste> thanks for the information
[18:46] <benste> psusi: thank you very much reinstalling solved the whole issue
[19:17] <tmzt_> hmm, so this might be a *little* pre mature but is there any interest in a build a native test image for running ubuntu mobile/touchscreen images on modern/recent Android devices as an installable .apk alongside Android?
[20:03] <Jewkonia> Hello Everybody
[20:03] <Jewkonia> My name is Jewkonia
[20:04] <Jewkonia> ikonia's Jewish cousin
[20:11] <dmart> micahg: hi there, here's the wiki link for the ARM porting info you were interested in:
[20:11] <dmart> micahg: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/Thumb2PortingHowto
[20:14] <micahg> dmart: thanks
[20:20] <rhys_> So I'm trying to roll my own package. I need to package the newest version of the Amanda project, which is currently just pulled straight from Debian.
[20:21] <rhys_> The packaging system is gigantic. The last place I worked on packages was Archlinux, where there are 2 tools (pacman and abs) which do absolutely everything. To create any package, you needed 1 bash script + diffs.
[20:22] <rhys_> Debian/Ubuntu seems to have every tool in triplicate that all do different things. Is there any link spamming I can get from more experienced packagers for Ubuntu?
[20:29] <rhys_> Oh. http://summit.ubuntu.com/
[20:29] <rhys_> nobody is on IRC
[20:29] <rhys_> lol.
[20:30] <RAOF_> !packagingguide
[20:30] <maco> sure we are..just in other channels
[20:30] <maco> also, there's #ubuntu-packaging
[20:31] <ogra_ac> maco, not true, i'm here
[20:31] <maco> well i was refering to the #ubuntu-uds-* channels
[20:31] <ogra_ac> :)
[20:31] <maco> are you here? i havent seen you
[20:31] <maco> where here = uds
[20:31]  * ogra_ac is in bonnaire 6
[20:32] <ogra_ac> -n
[20:32] <soren> ogra_ac: ...you are?
[20:32] <soren> I thought I was.
[20:32] <ajmitch> heh
[20:32] <ajmitch> surely the room isn't that big?
[20:32] <soren> It's not.
[20:32] <soren> Hence my confusion.
[20:32]  * ogra_ac looks underneath the chairs for soren
[20:32] <soren> Oh, I'm in 8.
[20:32] <soren> Never mind :)
[20:32] <ogra_ac> lol
[20:33] <ogra_ac> forgot your glasses ?
[20:33] <ajmitch> an easy mistake to make, I'm sure :)
[20:33] <soren> Does it actually say anywhere on the inside of the rooms which room it is?
[20:33] <soren> I couldn't find a sign, so I looked at the schedule :)
[20:33] <ogra_ac> soren, on the IRC screen
[20:33] <soren> Clever you.
[20:33] <ogra_ac> heh
[20:47] <bdrung> doko: bug #667446
[20:49] <doko> bdrung: thanks. I see this is usually hidden, because recommends are installed by default
[20:58] <slangasek> pitti: bug #667436> by "discussed with the community", you're not referring to Linaro, are you?  Linaro has no requirement for this to be in maverick :)
[22:43] <m_101> hi!
[22:43] <m_101> i'm searching to have symbols while i debug using gdb
[22:43] <m_101> i've been following this guide : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash
[22:44] <m_101> installed the corresponding aircrack-ng symbols
[22:44] <m_101> but not symbols with coredump