[00:13] <duanedesign> ubuntu4shane: good good you got it
[00:35] <ubuntu4shane> duanedesign, yes got it thanks
[09:17] <duanedesign> morning all
[11:34] <duanedesign> morning rye
[11:36] <rye> duanedesign, morning!
[11:37] <duanedesign> rye: what ended up being mahens problem yesterday? The usser with the move error.
[11:38] <rye> duanedesign, bug #666942 and me having a note to chase facundobatista and verterok
[11:38] <ubot4`> rye: Bug 666942 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/666942 is private
[11:41] <duanedesign> rye: ahh :)
[11:42] <duanedesign> rye: do you have ubuntuone-indicator in your startup applications?
[11:42] <rye> duanedesign, yes
[11:43] <duanedesign> as a seperate entry?
[11:43] <rye> duanedesign, yes, additionally to ubuntuone-launch
[11:43] <duanedesign> seperate from the U1 entry
[11:43] <rye> duanedesign, not feeling comfortable overriding that for now
[11:44] <duanedesign> ok. thanks
[13:41] <CardinalFang>  vds_ hi hi
[13:59] <vds_> CardinalFang: hello
[14:00] <CardinalFang> vds_, hi.  There's a UDS topic today about desktopcouch speed -- mostly about startup speed.
[14:00] <CardinalFang> I hope you will attend via IRC + audio stream.
[14:01] <vds_> CardinalFang: sure I will, I have some ideas, none of which the platform team will like :)
[14:01] <CardinalFang> We won't invite them to the session.  Ha ha.
[14:33] <vds_> CardinalFang: just to be sure about the schedule, the session will start in 2.5 hours, right?
[14:35] <CardinalFang> vds_, yes, now + 2.5 hours.   #ubuntu-uds-bonaire4
[14:35] <vds_> CardinalFang: thx!
[15:11] <jdobrien> vds hi
[17:49] <shane4ubuntu> u1 is really handy, and greatly improved, I'm very impressed, is there the ability to share a folder with other people?
[17:52] <pfibiger`> shane4ubuntu: you can share folders with other u1 users, only files may be made public.
[17:53] <shane4ubuntu> pfibiger`, ok, perhaps that is what I mean, made public, how is that done?
[17:53] <shane4ubuntu> and how public is it?
[17:53] <pfibiger`> so individual files are 'published' which gives them a public url anyone can access
[17:53] <pfibiger`> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/Tutorials/FileSharing#Share folders
[17:54] <pfibiger`> vs https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/Tutorials/FileSharing#Publish files
[17:54] <shane4ubuntu> pfibiger`, thanks!!!
[17:54] <pfibiger`> no problem :)
[21:02] <toros> hi
[21:02] <toros> is something wrong with the u1 servers? file sync is rather slow...
[21:31] <beuno> toros, we just restarted some of the servers
[21:31] <beuno> should be back to normal
[21:33] <toros> beuno: thank you!
[21:42] <shane4ubuntu> rye, I have managed to crash ubuntuone-indicator, is there a log file for it?
[21:43] <shane4ubuntu> I also found another way to crash nautilus through u1, but don't remember what it is now, I was working on something at the moment
[21:43] <rye> shane4ubuntu, hm... well, not really but ~/.xsession-errors may contain something interesting - do you see any BadMatch errors there? (.xsession-errors is a pretty private file, so it is better not to pastebin it publicly)
[21:44] <shane4ubuntu> rye, I'll check, just every now and then I glance up to see how syncing is going and indicator is gone
[21:45] <shane4ubuntu> rye, wow, that was loaded with errors.
[21:45] <rye> shane4ubuntu, i am aware about BadMatch yet it is a rather weird error to trap for me, since I off-load all gtk activity to appindicators. It was happening rather often before Maverick release though and I haven't experienced it in Maverick proper
[21:46] <rye> shane4ubuntu, yes, that's all that goes to stderr from all X applications, basically all stderr is redirected to that file
[21:46]  * rye is known of being able to tell a long sentence with one point stated twice
[21:47] <shane4ubuntu> most of them are this:  File "/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.6/ubuntuone_indicator/__init__.py", line 226, in content_queue_changed_handler
[21:47] <shane4ubuntu>   File "/usr/bin/ubuntuone-indicator", line 363, in update_content_queue_info
[21:48] <rye> shane4ubuntu, could you please pastebin the whole exception for that?
[21:49] <shane4ubuntu> rye, I did: cat ~/.xsession-errors | grep indicator      <-  would that give you the whole exception?  or do I need to find that spot?
[21:50] <rye> shane4ubuntu, if you search for  update_content_queue_info i believe you will find that exception
[21:53] <shane4ubuntu> rye, http://paste.ubuntu.com/520999/   ok, appears it doesn't like another one of my files, no odd names this time though
[21:54] <rye> shane4ubuntu, aha, pre-content estimation code... does that file exist '/home/shane/bin/fixesname' ?
[21:54] <shane4ubuntu> it keeps making it a conflict file, and I change it back
[21:55] <shane4ubuntu> we have this little war going on about that file name.
[21:56]  * shane4ubuntu thinks his nick should be MasterCrasher
[22:00] <rye> somebody broke Ukrainian translation of XChat so when somebody writes "/me something" i see just "* username", grrr
[22:02] <shane4ubuntu> hmm, that is annoying, I thought perhaps my nick should be changed to MasterCrasher, nothing real important.
[22:09] <shane4ubuntu> ok, is it possible that u1 is eating my files?
[22:11] <shane4ubuntu> I have gone to two different folders today that are empty, and that is quite concerning to me
[22:14] <shane4ubuntu> I had quite a few odt documents in the folders and they are gone, empty, and they are both separate folders tied to u1
[22:14] <shane4ubuntu> any ideas? thoughts?
[22:20] <rye> shane4ubuntu, empty files or empty folders? By the way, do you want us to run the recovery on your account?
[22:20] <shane4ubuntu> empty folders
[22:20] <shane4ubuntu> recovery?
[22:20] <shane4ubuntu> I was thinking if I unsync my folders on this box, does it delete them from the server?
[22:21] <rye> shane4ubuntu, ok, is there only one account connected?
[22:21] <shane4ubuntu> right, I disconnect my desktop for right now
[22:22] <rye> shane4ubuntu, there is a period when blobs are kept on the server and the database entries are marked as 'Dead'.
[22:22] <shane4ubuntu> ohh, yes, I will take them if I can get them (my files that is)
[22:22] <rye> shane4ubuntu, just a moment, restarting xchat for translation update
[22:22] <shane4ubuntu> how can I get them back?
[22:22] <rye> shane4ubuntu, just a moment
[22:22] <shane4ubuntu> ok
[22:23] <shane4ubuntu> ok, I'm all ears, you have my attention
[22:24] <rye> shane4ubuntu, could you please write "/me action" and the email which is used for ubuntuone?
[22:24] <rye> shane4ubuntu, email can be privately sent :)
[22:24]  * shane4ubuntu thinks that this is just a test
[22:24] <rye> no, it does not work :(
[22:26] <shane4ubuntu> was that private?  I don't ever do that so I was shooting in the dark there.
[22:27] <rye> shane4ubuntu, yup
[22:27] <davidstrauss> Not once have songs automatically downloaded to my computer after buying them on Ubuntu One. WTF is up with this service?
[22:27] <rye> shane4ubuntu, ok, you should now see 'Recovered' folder
[22:27] <shane4ubuntu> rye, yep, recovered is there, no files yet, but folder is there.
[22:28] <davidstrauss> I've even rejoined my computer to the service, but things still don't synch.
[22:28] <rye> davidstrauss, let me check whether something is wrong
[22:29] <rye> shane4ubuntu, was that UDF removed afterwards?
[22:29] <davidstrauss> rye, This is what I get: http://pastie.org/private/vadhevfi452vb5p76tavpg
[22:29] <shane4ubuntu> UDF?  I'm not sure what you mean
[22:31] <rye> shane4ubuntu, non-"Ubuntu One" folder
[22:33] <shane4ubuntu> rye, I'm not sure what you mean
[22:33] <rye> shane4ubuntu, have you unsubscribed the folders that had these missing files?
[22:34] <shane4ubuntu> oh, no not yes, I haven't done anything but disconnect my desktop from u1 - u1sdtool -q
[22:34] <shane4ubuntu> rye, I almost did, but then was concerned that it may delete the files from the server.
[22:46] <shane4ubuntu> rye, believe it or not I was able to recover some of the files via dare I say, dropbox  I had one of the folders linked to dropbox, and they have an option of seening deleted files, and I recovered them, however the other folder I didn't have linked to dropbox, nothing in the recovered folder.
[22:52] <shane4ubuntu> rye, I don't know if this will help, but it appears they disappeared a few days ago, based on the deletion date on record with dropbox.
[22:54] <rye> shane4ubuntu, ok, could you please archive your logs for syncdaemon until they rotate - ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/ ?
[22:56] <shane4ubuntu> rye, ok, I copied them all out to a different location
[22:57] <rye> shane4ubuntu, since half of the team is at UDS now and is not as responsive as usual, this can take a while. On the other hand it is really weird that Recovery folder is empty... Do you see it online - https://one.ubuntu.com/files/ ?
[22:58] <shane4ubuntu> rye, not I problem I can be patient, and can understand short handedness.  There are actually two Recovery folders Recovery and Recovery-1 both empty.
[22:59] <shane4ubuntu> I'm writing a quick rsync script to back up my data here and then I will continue to use the u1 sync thing
[23:10] <rye> shane4ubuntu, could you please look online into that User-Designated folder online to see whether 'Recovered' is inside too?
[23:12] <shane4ubuntu> rye, we are up to 3 recovered folders all empty, and in the folders where the docs disappeared, they are still empty
[23:13] <rye> shane4ubuntu, could you please file a bug against ubuntuone-client attaching the logs - ubuntu-bug ubuntuone-client, then make it private and attach the archived log dir
[23:13] <shane4ubuntu> rye, will do
[23:15] <shane4ubuntu> rye, should I still hold out hopes that the docs will be recovered?
[23:20] <shane4ubuntu> rye how do I make the bug private?
[23:20] <karni> shane4ubuntu: there should be a checkbox when reporting the bug, no?
[23:21] <shane4ubuntu> karni, no, didn't see one
[23:21] <rye> shane4ubuntu, there is a pencil icon in the upper right corner
[23:21] <shane4ubuntu> I mean, there may have been one that I over looked
[23:21] <rye> shane4ubuntu, "This report is public"
[23:21] <shane4ubuntu> ahh, right, got it, thanks
[23:22] <shane4ubuntu> now it would be 'safe' to attach those logs?  There isn't much there that is sensitive, unless both username and password were included.
[23:24] <karni> shane4ubuntu: as I recall, the policy is that *nobody* will make the bug public, unless they made their best to ensure there is *no* sensitive information left in the attachments
[23:24] <karni> still, rye is the guy who knows almost everything :)
[23:24] <shane4ubuntu> karni, ok, I should be fine I just grepped the logs for username and password, didn't see anything
[23:25] <karni> shane4ubuntu: probably because U1 uses OAuth, so you could only find the token and token secret :) (looks like scrambled text)
[23:25] <rye> shane4ubuntu, the only sensitive info in these files are the filenames
[23:26] <shane4ubuntu> ok, no prob for me then, I put those files on u1 with the idea if they were hacked not a big deal.
[23:26] <rye> shane4ubuntu, and possibly OAuth tokens in oauth-login.log file which is now moved to sso folder, so ...well, it is better to keep it private unless it is really public
[23:26] <shane4ubuntu> not a prob, thanks, gotta run, be back later
[23:27] <shane4ubuntu> rye, should I go ahead and restart u1 now? I have scripted a backup to backup all my u1 folders to a separate location every 15min, so no real danger of lossing stuff now
[23:27] <shane4ubuntu> gotta run
[23:27] <rye> shane4ubuntu, could you please give the bug number?
[23:27] <rye> shane4ubuntu, yes, u1 is ok to be restarted
[23:32] <shane4ubuntu> rye, Bug #667499
[23:32] <ubot4`> shane4ubuntu: Bug 667499 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/667499 is private
[23:32] <rye> shane4ubuntu, ok, I will chase chicharra people with that until I get anything definite
[23:33] <shane4ubuntu> rye, I must say that I was impressed with the dropbox see deleted files option, u1 needs something like that too, that was slick.
[23:35] <rye> shane4ubuntu, and I hate to say this but I don't have the confidence that files are able to be recovered in case they were not uploaded to u1 in the first place. Could you please specify at least one file name of the missing file?
[23:35] <shane4ubuntu> rye, ok, not a big deal at this point, I recovered the most important files, I just greped the logs for one of the file names and nothing turned up
[23:35] <karni> shane4ubuntu: I'm pretty sure that'll be implemeted. dropbox is ~2 years older then U1 :)
[23:36] <shane4ubuntu> karni, right, I'm an ubuntu fan so I will use u1, just will be a little more careful from now on. :)
[23:36] <shane4ubuntu> rye, 20100908-Romanos9v14.odt was one of the file names
[23:37] <rye> karni, you are right, the deleted view is planned and there are initial bits even
[23:37] <shane4ubuntu> rye all the files from prayerletter/2010 were gone
[23:37] <karni> rye: :)
[23:37] <shane4ubuntu> ok, gotta run, be back in a few hours
[23:37] <karni> bye
[23:37] <shane4ubuntu> rye, thanks for the help