| spiv | Morning folks. | 00:06 |
|---|---|---|
| mgz | evenin' spiv. | 00:06 |
| jelmer | good arvo spiv | 00:06 |
| peitschie | hiya spiv :) | 00:20 |
| peitschie | i'm good morning as well :P | 00:20 |
| === Ursinha-bbl is now known as Ursinha | ||
| peitschie | i just merged a bunch of uncommitted changes from an svn working directory to a bzr branch... i just felt congratulations were in order to jelmer and co for such awesome escape routes | 02:26 |
| twb | I happened to run bzr for the first time in a while, and it's complaining: | 05:02 |
| twb | /usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/Crypto/Util/randpool.py:40: RandomPool_DeprecationWarning: This application uses RandomPool, which is BROKEN in older releases. See http://www.pycrypto.org/randpool-broken | 05:02 |
| fullermd | https://bugs.launchpad.net/paramiko/+bug/271791 | 05:05 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 271791 in paramiko "Paramiko depends on RandomPool (affected: 5, heat: 22)" [Medium,Triaged] | 05:05 |
| spiv | twb: probably due to old paramiko? | 05:05 |
| twb | spiv: NFI; I'm running sid, probably no paramiko at all | 05:06 |
| twb | Sorry, I have python-paramiko 1.7.6-5 installed | 05:06 |
| spiv | bzr doesn't use Crypto.Util.randpool directly at all. | 05:06 |
| twb | OK, no worries. | 05:06 |
| fullermd | Doesn't have to be old. TTBOMK there IS no fixed paramiko release. | 05:06 |
| fullermd | Last I looked, there wasn't even a merged fix. | 05:07 |
| spiv | (And only tries to import Crypto in the test suite) | 05:07 |
| spiv | fullermd: oh, :( | 05:07 |
| twb | Is there a straightforward way to get the equivalent of hg's "[extension] color =" (i.e. --color=auto in diff/log -p) | 05:07 |
| fullermd | Nope, still nothing landed since April. | 05:08 |
| fullermd | http://github.com/robey/paramiko/commits/master | 05:08 |
| jbowtie | twb: bzr cdiff in plugin 'bzrtools' should do what you want | 05:08 |
| twb | I don't want to run a different command, I want it to be automatic when I run normal diff | 05:09 |
| spiv | bzr alias diff=cdiff | 05:09 |
| spiv | There's almost certainly room for improvement. | 05:09 |
| twb | I'd also like it to auto-run the pager, like git does by default and (somehow, I can't see where) I have enabled for hg | 05:10 |
| twb | cdiff also doesn't give me color in log -p, which is more important to me than diff | 05:13 |
| twb | (Usually I only use diff via emacs' vc, which does its own colourizing.) | 05:13 |
| twb | Hmph, "bzr help bzrtools" isn't very helpful. It just emits the module docstring | 05:14 |
| jbowtie | twb: I think the pager is bug 213718 | 05:14 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 213718 in Bazaar "Use bzr-pager by default (affected: 3, heat: 41)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/213718 | 05:14 |
| twb | Ah, bzr-pager isn't in released versions? | 05:15 |
| jbowtie | It's not installed by default as far as I know ('bzr plugins' will tell you if its installed) | 05:17 |
| twb | Nod | 05:17 |
| twb | At least it's straightforward to add plugins to bzr | 05:17 |
| jbowtie | twb: Adding color to log output would be bug 597626 | 05:20 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 597626 in Bazaar "bzrlib should support color (affected: 2, heat: 4)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/597626 | 05:20 |
| jbowtie | twb: looking through the mailing list poolie is on record says that cdiff should be merged into standard diff | 05:21 |
| twb | Ew, it assumes SGR compatibility? | 05:21 |
| twb | It should ask terminfo | 05:21 |
| twb | Yeah, it does assume SGR | 05:21 |
| jbowtie | twb: If you work up a patch, I'll review it. :) | 05:22 |
| twb | Eh, I only use bzr for one customer repo. Actually contributing is too much like work | 05:22 |
| jbowtie | Well, if you can comment on the bug it'll help me when I actually get around to implementing it. | 05:23 |
| jbowtie | That way I can at least do it right. :P | 05:24 |
| === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk | ||
| vila | hi all ! | 07:28 |
| mgz | morning vila. | 07:28 |
| vila | mgz: hey ! | 07:29 |
| mgz | do you know what the current advice is for antivirus software messing with file moves is? | 07:31 |
| twb | don't run it? | 07:32 |
| mgz | that doesn't sound persuasive. | 07:33 |
| mgz | but by all means put that in bug 663957 for me twb. | 07:34 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 663957 in Bazaar "TransformRenameFailed and Unprintable exception (affected: 1, heat: 8)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/663957 | 07:35 |
| bob2 | /wii mgz | 07:35 |
| mgz | is that advice or a mistyped irc command, and are you the IBM Rob Weir? | 07:37 |
| vila | mgz: I don't fully disagree with twb :-/ I can't see what bzr can do about such unspecified random behaviours.... Retry once ? | 07:37 |
| vila | Can the anti-virus be parametrized to ignore files under .bzr ? | 07:37 |
| mgz | I thought there was something about telling things not to look in certain dirs, but haven't dealt with any of this myself. | 07:38 |
| bob2 | mgz: sorry, was just wondering if you were the submitter (and no, a different one) | 07:38 |
| vila | And retrying... in TreeTransform... talk about a nightmare :-/ | 07:39 |
| mgz | bob2: nope, just the commenter on that bug. | 07:39 |
| vila | as for not using rename() to move directories.... | 07:40 |
| mgz | I'm not certain that bug is down to a background process locking the files, though it was my first guess, but can't think of much useful to suggest to track the problem down. | 07:41 |
| vila | I'm pretty sure there are bugs around the exception handling for renames involving non-ascii paths though, str(exception) is evil | 07:42 |
| mgz | yeah, I've got a branch for that. | 07:42 |
| mgz | needs tidying up and the testtools version bump. | 07:43 |
| mgz | (the str(exception) stuff, that is) | 07:43 |
| vila | mgz: you mean you modified bzrlib.errors.py to not use str(e) or something else ? | 07:43 |
| vila | Eeerk, battery leak is bad isn't it ? | 07:44 |
| mgz | ...they tend to contain nasty things, yes | 07:44 |
| vila | AA battery, no smell though | 07:44 |
| mgz | ^yeah, fixed that unprintable exception stuff. | 07:44 |
| vila | mgz: you rock ;) | 07:45 |
| vila | 5000mAh AA batteries were too good to be true :-/ | 07:47 |
| * spiv EODs | 07:59 | |
| idlecool | hi people.. i have a trouble using bzr | 08:37 |
| idlecool | how to pull changes from the trunk if the current copy has a modified config file and doesnot intended to change | 08:37 |
| GaryvdM | idlecool: Just pull. Bazaar will maintain that working change. | 08:39 |
| GaryvdM | idlecool: The only thing which will make that change go away, is bzr revert | 08:40 |
| idlecool | okay... let me check.. | 08:40 |
| idlecool | okay! i am working on a webframework, i need to install it to use it | 08:41 |
| idlecool | i did a checkout of the latest release and made modifications to the config file. | 08:42 |
| idlecool | now while i commit i dont want the config files to get updated nor the cache files which are created while using the framework. | 08:43 |
| idlecool | i just want the files which i have modified to get update while a merge, commit, push | 08:44 |
| vila | idlecool: if you intend to keep these changes around, the safe way is to commit them and then *merge* from trunk instead of pulling | 08:44 |
| vila | oh, you want to stay compatible with trunk | 08:45 |
| vila | you are on your own then, it's always tricky to keep uncommitted changes floating around | 08:45 |
| vila | you may want to try looms but you will still need to remember to always commit in the right thread (well, that's what looms are for anyway) | 08:46 |
| GaryvdM | I use loom to do this, but I would not recommend it for a beginner. | 08:46 |
| idlecool | okay! if i dont do a bzr add then new temp/cache files will not be added.. am i getting right | 08:47 |
| GaryvdM | idlecool: Yes | 08:47 |
| idlecool | the only thing left will be my config file | 08:48 |
| idlecool | ok! then i should have a look at loom then. hope i get it working soon. :) | 08:48 |
| idlecool | anyways thanx :) | 08:48 |
| awilkins | peitschie, I may have missed some ; but I find that on Windows a combo of Powershell or cygwin bash + the qbzr stuff makes for a nice compromise for missing Tortoise | 12:36 |
| peitschie_ | awilkins: hiya :)... i have another programmer that swears by that too! | 12:36 |
| awilkins | There is TortoiseBZR of course, but I find it makes my machine thrash on the working trees that I manage | 12:37 |
| awilkins | That was a long while ago I tried it last though | 12:37 |
| peitschie_ | i agree about tortisebzr... i like the context menu stuff... always turn off the icons atm | 12:37 |
| peitschie_ | my poor computer has enough trouble running a few instances of VS2010 lol | 12:37 |
| === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha | ||
| awilkins | Mostly I develop on Java right now ; the bzr-eclipse plugin is OK, not really tried the one that uses qbzr | 12:38 |
| awilkins | For C# I use SharpDevelop | 12:38 |
| peitschie_ | ahh... i did try that once a while back | 12:38 |
| peitschie_ | (bzr-eclipse) | 12:39 |
| peitschie_ | sharpdevelop... i'll need to check that out | 12:39 |
| Tak | there's monodevelop-bzr for monodevelop ;-) | 12:39 |
| awilkins | The guts of VS with a much smaller install footprint | 12:39 |
| peitschie_ | oh... thats cool! I never knew | 12:39 |
| awilkins | It's not VS - it's an IDE | 12:39 |
| peitschie_ | i've never actually been a big fan of IDE plugins for my source control tho i must say | 12:40 |
| awilkins | I find the cli more fluent | 12:40 |
| peitschie_ | awlikins: +10 lol | 12:40 |
| peitschie_ | i am also much less liable to miss files and such | 12:40 |
| awilkins | And bad experiences with the VSS plugin for VB6 have biased my judgement | 12:40 |
| peitschie_ | and with bzr's auto-rename and intuitive add behaviour.... cli is very speedy and convenient | 12:40 |
| peitschie_ | *only* thing i'd find it useful for is inline annotation somehow | 12:41 |
| peitschie_ | but i dont know of many plugins that do that :( | 12:41 |
| Tak | MD trunk has a nice annotation view | 12:41 |
| Tak | one sec, I'll screenshot | 12:42 |
| peitschie_ | oh... thats pretty hot! | 12:42 |
| peitschie_ | i'm glad i hang out here... all neat kinds of dev tools i never realised existed! | 12:44 |
| Tak | screenshot, finally: http://i.imgur.com/5LNLX.png | 12:57 |
| peitschie_ | *clicks* | 13:00 |
| peitschie_ | dagnamit | 13:00 |
| peitschie_ | i can never look at my poor poor VS the same again :( | 13:01 |
| peitschie_ | i will need to forever be unsatisfied that is isn't monodevelop >_< | 13:01 |
| peitschie_ | thanks for that Tak :) | 13:02 |
| Tak | another nice thing is that it has that unified UI for svn, bzr (with monodevelop-bzr) and git (sort-of, so far) | 13:04 |
| GaryvdM | Tak: Are you the author of monodevelop-bzr? | 13:09 |
| Tak | jelmer, me, and palango, I believe | 13:10 |
| GaryvdM | Oh - ok - it looks cool. | 13:11 |
| Tak | yeah - I'm dogfooding it daily, when I'm working on bzr-hosted projects | 13:11 |
| peitschie_ | Tak: is it a lot of work to build MD from trunk? | 13:12 |
| Tak | mmm, depends on the OS | 13:13 |
| peitschie_ | tak: ubuntu in my private time which is wen i'd be using it :) | 13:14 |
| Tak | on debian or ubuntu, it's pretty straightforward: apt-get build-dep monodevelop; git clone git://github.com/mono/monodevelop; cd monodevelop; ./configure && make | 13:14 |
| peitschie_ | ahh... very straightforward! thanks :) | 13:14 |
| Tak | I think on ubuntu, you'd have to download and build mono-addins 0.5 from mono-project.com as well | 13:15 |
| peitschie_ | thanks for the help Tak... i'm still trying to get it all to get together... but will tackle more tomorrow :) | 13:58 |
| peitschie_ | hopefully tomorrow night i can get shiny new MD going :D | 13:58 |
| Tak | np | 13:59 |
| ronny | hi | 16:08 |
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| ronny | anyone knows if bzr-svn can be coerced into importing svn exernals as if they where part of the file tree | 16:09 |
| === oubiwann-away is now known as oubiwann | ||
| === BasicPRO is now known as BasicOSX | ||
| lamalex | Can I ask tarmac questions in here? I'm trying to set up the command plugin to run test suite via make check, but "verify_command = ./autogen.sh; make check" doesn't work. It can't find the commands to run. Anyone have a tip? | 16:30 |
| lamalex | I assume the problem is ./ | 16:31 |
| eydaimon | how can I set up bzr to use my own pager when doing bzr diff? | 18:18 |
| zooko | Hm, I need this but for bzr: http://twitter.com/bos31337/status/28072630844 | 18:24 |
| vila | zooko: bzr-fast-import ? | 18:31 |
| vila | https://edge.launchpad.net/bzr-fastimport | 18:31 |
| glyph | hey guys | 18:43 |
| glyph | that thing that always happens to me when I try using bzr for something new just happened to me again | 18:43 |
| glyph | bzr: ERROR: bzrlib.errors.BzrCheckError: Internal check failed: Cannot add revision(s) to repository: missing chk node(s) for id_to_entry maps | 18:43 |
| glyph | please tell me that there is a workaround for this | 18:43 |
| dash | hmm yeah i think i got this earlier | 18:44 |
| dash | you're not gonna like this | 18:45 |
| glyph | I bet I won't | 18:45 |
| glyph | dash: hit me | 18:45 |
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| dash | glyph: bzr reconcile --canonicalize-chks | 18:46 |
| dash | i think | 18:46 |
| dash | and you need 2.3b2, if i remember right | 18:46 |
| glyph | looks like https://bugs.launchpad.net/bzr/+bug/485601 | 18:47 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 485601 in Bazaar "missing chk node(s) for id_to_entry maps (affected: 3, heat: 15)" [Medium,Incomplete] | 18:47 |
| dash | yeah i may be getting this confused with a different thing. | 18:48 |
| zooko | vila: thanks! | 18:53 |
| glyph | dash: As bad as my experiences have been with release versions of bzr, my experiences with versions that have 'b' in the name have not been better :) | 19:06 |
| glyph | I am going to see if any workarounds might help me | 19:07 |
| fullermd | Well, we could make some 'a' releases instead. That might help, since 'a' is better than 'b', right? | 19:07 |
| dash | heh | 19:07 |
| glyph | well, blowing away my shared repository and re-fetching everything seems to have fixed things for now | 19:54 |
| vila | poolie: ping | 20:03 |
| vila | anyone in touch or wired with poolie, thanks for forwarding ;) | 20:04 |
| vila | jam: ping | 20:16 |
| jam | i vila | 20:16 |
| jam | hi | 20:16 |
| jam | what's up? | 20:16 |
| vila | jam: hey ! Can you forward my ping to poolie ? | 20:17 |
| jam | if I see him. he isn't right next to me | 20:17 |
| vila | bah, it's the revolution here, there are killing kings all over again... | 20:17 |
| vila | jam: ok, thnks | 20:18 |
| vila | well, kings... slight exaggeration, they cancelled trains... | 20:18 |
| jam | vila: pretty much the same thing as beheading your national leader.... | 20:18 |
| * vila drools | 20:19 | |
| fullermd | If they behead a king WITH a train, THAT I'd pay to see. That would be awesome. | 20:19 |
| vila | jam: oh, by the way the ping's TTL is a couple of hours at least | 20:20 |
| vila | fullermd: I wonder what kind of filter you have.... I *thought* I'll catch you with the kings but..... less than 3 minutes ? Wow | 20:21 |
| fullermd | Well, there's certainly no filter between my brain and my mouth; ask anybody I know. So it stands to reason I must have REALLY good filters elsewhere, to balance things out. | 20:22 |
| vila | . o O (That's soo off-topic while not answering the question that it should be masterpiece of its kind...) | 20:25 |
| fullermd | My work here is done. | 20:25 |
| vila | > bash.org | 20:26 |
| jam | vila: fullermd has no filter, he just sits on a socket which streams all irc conversation 24x7 | 20:29 |
| fullermd | Direct to the brain. It makes my ear itch when people use caps lock. | 20:29 |
| vila | SAY WHAT ? | 20:32 |
| * fullermd scratches frantically. | 20:33 | |
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| eydaimon | how can I set up bzr to use my own pager when doing bzr diff? | 22:21 |
| mgz | eydaimon: bzr-pager and the PAGER env var | 22:22 |
| eydaimon | my PAGER env is set. I don't seem to have a bzr-pager command | 22:36 |
| mgz | it's a plugin. you can get it from lp:bzr-pager if you don't already have it. | 22:37 |
| eydaimon | seems like an odd thing not to work with by default. but installing now | 22:49 |
| eydaimon | [~ki]% bzr st | 22:54 |
| eydaimon | bzr: ERROR: [Errno 2] No such file or directory | 22:55 |
| eydaimon | I get errors no matter what I do after installing the pluign | 22:55 |
| eydaimon | maybe it doesn't work with 2.2.1 | 22:56 |
| mgz | pastebin the traceback from you .bzr.log? | 22:57 |
| eydaimon | ok, one sec | 22:57 |
| eydaimon | http://gist.github.com/652419 | 23:01 |
| mgz | okay, that's pretty clear. | 23:02 |
| mgz | do `$PAGER --help` in your console? | 23:03 |
| mgz | whatever you've got in the var doesn't seem to be on your path. | 23:04 |
| eydaimon | well, this is my pager: col -b | view -R - | 23:20 |
| peitschie | mornin everyone :) | 23:23 |
| mgz | is setting a shell expression as your pager even valid? | 23:29 |
| mgz | just put that in a sh script on your disk somewhere as set your PAGER to that path. | 23:29 |
| eydaimon | mgz: been using it for years without an issue :) | 23:41 |
| mgz | it may be valid, or just happen to work with most things, I was just suggesting a way you could make bzr-pager work for you now. | 23:42 |
| fullermd | You've been using it where it got expanded by the shell :p | 23:42 |
| mgz | feel free to file a bug against it tool. | 23:42 |
| mgz | -l | 23:42 |
| fullermd | Exec'ing that string is unlikely to work well, though... | 23:42 |
| eydaimon | mgz: yes, appriciated :) | 23:42 |
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