/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/10/28/#kubuntu-devel.txt

txwikingerola.. que me cuentas?00:00
txwikinger+H00:00
ScottKJontheEchidna: Add it to build-depends.00:09
JontheEchidnacan't exactly ask everybody to change every package in every ppa to add it, tho00:11
CIA-96[libqapt] jmthomas * 1190530 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/config.cpp SVN_SILENT: Whitespace00:37
ScottKSure, but we could do it for Kubuntu PPAs.00:45
CIA-96[ubuntu] Alessandro Ghersi <alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org * alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org-20101027234533-ac6iii1xwlgvtwqt * debian/control Keep kchart package for now00:45
ScottKFYI, phonon built on armel and I've given Riddell a proposed debian/rules change based on the fix for that to see if he can build qt4-x11 in the armel PPA he has access to (it won't build on my box the way it's set up at the moment).00:47
JontheEchidnaHmm, good point. That would ensure that we could always have a debug package for every package in the PPA00:49
JontheEchidnawhich have a significant userbase00:49
* starcraftman waves hello to kubuntu-dev and DarkwingDuck :)00:50
DarkwingDuckHey guys... starcraftman is a KDE user with dev aspirations. Let's give him a warm welcome 00:50
DarkwingDuckScottK: ^^^^^^ Already starting. ;)00:50
Lex79only KDE packages?00:51
Lex79welcome starcraftman :)00:51
ScottKDarkwingDuck: Excellent.00:51
ScottKstarcraftman: Welcome.00:51
starcraftmanhello Lex79, and ScottK guess I'll just be sitting for now and see as I get free time. I been meaning to get into linux dev but being coop uni student = low free time. 00:52
ScottKstarcraftman: You are using Kubuntu now?00:53
starcraftmanScottK: For a while now, long time Ubuntu user I suppose. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/starcraft.man00:53
Lex79JontheEchidna: just add pkgbinarymangler to kde-sc-dev-latest dependencies in the ppa package, no?00:53
JontheEchidnaLex79: that'd do it00:54
Lex79ok00:54
ScottKstarcraftman: Nice.00:56
DarkwingDuckshadeslayer: I have another rekonq request... form field and text input spell check... unless I'm missing something somewhere... 00:56
txwikingerwhat's cooking?00:56
Sputthat reminds me, I meant to try starcraft 2 in wine01:02
starcraftmanScottK: hmmm, so are you in charge? Looked through links seem to be focused on natty, any that go over team organization?01:02
ScottKstarcraftman: Not in charge.  Just one of the contributors (who is heading off to dinner).  We can chat later though.01:09
starcraftmanScottK: later then, enjoy supper. I'll be around.01:10
CIA-96[muon] jmthomas * 1190553 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/ (3 files in 2 dirs) Add the ability to change how often APT auto-cleans obsolete cached package archives. Making the General settings page layout HIG-compliant is on my todo.02:42
shtylmanJontheEchidna: are you using git for muon?02:50
shtylmanif not... why not?02:50
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markeyhey kubuntu devs10:02
markeyI have a packaging request:10:02
markeyhttp://git-annex.branchable.com/10:02
markeythis tool seems very useful10:02
markey(making backups with Git)10:02
\shmarkey: wishlist bug against ubuntu? ;) or bribe harald ;)10:44
markeyI think offering apachelogger a kiss would work best ;)10:46
markeyor, promising Riddell to say something nice about Kubuntu ;)10:47
markeyactually I already did that10:47
markeyso maybe he will be nice :)10:47
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sheytanhey12:45
sheytanis there a todo for natty already? ;)12:45
Sput"make it work and make it shiny"?12:47
ulyssesworld domination?12:52
alis udslogger behind this? http://hannahmontana.sourceforge.net/12:54
nigelbsheytan: zarro boogs? ;)12:55
nigelbal: tis not pink :p12:55
alclose enough ;)12:56
ulyssesal: http://apachelog.wordpress.com/2010/06/04/fluffy/12:57
alyea, that's what i remembered12:57
alcould be the 2nd version ;)12:57
nigelbThe famous, but unfortunately now deserted Hannah Montana Linux also used Kubuntu as a base. We are currently working on some minor disturbances, so that soon you will be able to run an early alpha version of Fluffy already.12:58
nigelbal: ^^12:58
ali see :>13:00
udsloggershadeslayer: http://www.disneyphotopass.com does show a stupid message in rekonq - go do something14:11
udsloggermarkey: that reminds me that I still need to snuggle with Riddell14:12
udsloggerJontheEchidna: feel free to release kdi14:12
JontheEchidnakk14:12
JontheEchidnaI am also tempted to release a first alpha of LibQApt 1.1, so that k-d-i can use the pretty includes :P14:13
udsloggeralso14:13
udsloggerhttp://twitter.com/sil/status/2898569831114:13
udslogger:D14:13
JontheEchidnaand for that reason alone :P14:13
udsloggerJontheEchidna: that is a perfectly fine reason14:13
JontheEchidnaI think I'll do a release of both over the weekend14:13
udsloggerkool14:14
Riddelludslogger: the hot tub is just over there14:14
udsloggerRiddell: oh, btw, we need to schedule a hot tub session, somehow ad-hoc hot tubbing does not work out ;)14:15
Riddellhot tub with irn bru this evening?14:15
JontheEchidnanot much kubuntu things going on today14:15
udsloggerRiddell: sounds, just set a time for it14:16
udslogger*sounds good14:16
Riddellthree sessions if you include agateau's git one14:16
JontheEchidnaoh? I just saw the natty community one14:16
JontheEchidnawhich unfortunately falls right on my only class of the day: http://imgur.com/PE1ax14:17
Riddelludslogger: I think we should go to universal studios thingy tonight then come back in time for an irn bru session14:17
RiddellJontheEchidna: you have a really skiving timetable14:17
udsloggerjussi, shadeslayer: photo download is 15 bucks, so please find me when you have a minute, so that we can choose the best one14:18
Riddellonly 8 classes a week?14:18
Riddelludslogger: ksnapshot is your friend14:18
* JontheEchidna learned a new british slang word today14:18
udsloggerlol14:18
JontheEchidnain exchange I have a crapton of 3 hour classes14:19
udsloggerJontheEchidna: I have 4 hour classes and yet my schedule is filled up with stuff :P14:19
shadeslayerheh14:19
shadeslayerudslogger: where are you?14:20
udsloggershadeslayer: roundtable14:20
shadeslayerah ok14:20
udsloggerthough there is no round table14:20
* JontheEchidna gets back to homework14:20
udsloggeror maybe it is not14:20
udsloggerI dunno14:20
udsloggerI just went into some room14:20
udsloggercause the spying on users session was moved back14:21
shadeslayer^ i want to go into that but its clashing with git for bzr stuff14:21
shadeslayeroh14:21
udsloggerdang14:21
shadeslayerudslogger ScottK build is still stuck :P14:22
sheytanHey14:22
udsloggeryo14:22
sheytanwhich package do i need to install to get sporano working with virtuoso?14:22
sheytansoprano compiled from sources (as well as kde trunk, too)14:22
udsloggerjono wants my hat...14:22
ScottKshadeslayer: So go hunt someone down.14:23
sheytananyone? :D14:24
shadeslayerScottK: im sitting with Jorge ... he says, it looks as if its dead14:24
udsloggerhttp://aplg.kollide.net/images/avatar/snapshot82.png or http://aplg.kollide.net/images/avatar/snapshot83.png or http://aplg.kollide.net/images/avatar/snapshot84.png or http://aplg.kollide.net/images/avatar/snapshot85.png14:25
shadeslayerfunny14:26
shadeslayerudslogger: last one opens in rekonq instead of gwenview14:26
jjesse_i love the pink14:26
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shadeslayerhahaha14:27
shadeslayerudslogger: take 8314:27
shadeslayeri think we should just take one and be done with it....14:27
udsloggerfor 15 bucks I want the best one :P14:28
jussiIm not bothered, whichever you like14:28
SputI know the one with the ears and the nose!14:37
Sputoh wait, it's jussi.14:37
jussihahah14:37
jussiSput: ScottK has some thing to convey to you with regard to building quassel on android...14:37
Sputdo we have Qt on Android yet?14:38
ScottKjussi: I forgot the details.  14:38
jussiSput: yes14:38
SputI'm hearing its getting closer at least14:38
ScottKSput: We do, but it's qml only or something.14:38
ScottKIf only there had been less alcohol and more sleep between when we talked to Thiago and now.14:38
shadeslayerlol ^14:38
jussiI heard something along the lines of "you have a canvas and you can paint anything on that" or something14:39
shadeslayerScottK: they killed the build again and are looking into it ...14:39
SputScottK: good thing I have a qml branch on gitorious. which doesn't see any work because I still don't have any device I could build quassel for14:39
ScottKshadeslayer: Great.14:39
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Sputalso, qml was missing... features last time I played with it14:39
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RiddellScottK: server natty kolab tomorrow at 11:00/16:00 in #ubuntu-uds-curacao1214:40
jussiRiddell: 1+214:40
ScottKRiddell: Looks good.14:41
ScottKRiddell: I see a different spec in that slot.14:41
Riddelljussi: you changed it?14:41
shadeslayerudslogger: your going to... Bonaire 8?14:42
jussiyeah, its forwarded, so not really a big thing, but still...14:42
udsloggerI am sitting somewhere14:42
udsloggerno clue where14:42
udsloggerask valorie14:42
* udslogger is clueless here14:42
jussibonaire 514:42
jussiudslogger: 14:42
udsloggerthank you14:43
udsloggershadeslayer: I am in bonaire 5 it seems14:43
shadeslayerhmm14:43
udsloggerI am not in the channel14:43
udsloggeromg!14:43
shadeslayerim just outside bonaire 114:43
udsloggerI am inside the bonaire5 channel14:43
jussiour door is open..14:43
shadeslayerhmm14:44
shadeslayerudslogger: i thought you had to do something?14:44
udsloggerwe have an open door policy it seems14:44
shadeslayerlike14:44
udsloggershadeslayer: like?14:44
shadeslayerkick something14:44
shadeslayeror soemone14:44
shadeslayer*someone14:44
udsloggerI did?14:44
udslogger*shrug*14:44
shadeslayergood :P14:44
udsloggerit is windy in here14:44
jjessenot as windy as in the midwest :)14:45
udsloggerI would not know14:46
jjesse30mph winds14:47
jjessewith gusts up to 5014:47
udsloggerScottK: http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=91110&p=175637&hilit=kubuntu#p175637 thoughts?14:47
udsloggerwhat i mph? :P14:47
udslogger"multiple processes, honestly"?14:47
jjesse48.28 km/h according to google :)14:47
udsloggeric14:47
udsloggerjussi: you know it would be very good if the chat clients would use a bigger font setting than default14:48
udsloggeryou cannot read soup in the back14:48
jussilol14:49
jussiahh you mean the projector font?14:49
udsloggeryeah14:49
udsloggeron that note, I think it would be very cool to have kubuntu switch font settings around for screens that are projected14:50
udsloggerlike switch to a different konsole profile with bigger fonts and stuff14:50
udsloggerkate too14:50
udsloggernothing is more annoying than when you are having some talkthing and want to project code and compile that and no one sees anything because the font is not projector appropriate14:51
ScottKudslogger: Complain to notmart is my idea.14:52
ScottKAcutally explain the problem and ask him how to troubleshoot it works very well IME.14:52
ScottKshadeslayer should do it and make sure it works with rekonq too.14:53
udsloggershadeslayer: go fix bookmarks14:53
udsloggerand where is the manpage14:53
shadeslayerwhu14:53
shadeslayerwhu14:53
udsloggerwhile I am at it14:53
shadeslayerwhat14:53
shadeslayerwha14:53
shadeslayerhuh?14:53
jussilol14:53
ScottKshadeslayer: See udslogger's last ping to me.14:53
shadeslayerwill do14:53
udslogger"I avoid Qt apps because once in a while one pulls in most of KDE and all its Phonon garbage. Last thing we need is *another* sound system competing for resources."14:54
udsloggerthat is so silly14:54
shadeslayerudslogger: where are you? your not in bonaire 8!15:06
davidbarthwelcome unity places fans!15:09
shadeslayeruh15:09
davidbarthgobby document link: other-dx-n-unity-places-api15:09
shadeslayerdavidbarth: wrong channel? :P15:09
davidbarthnjpatel is presenting slides atm15:09
davidbarthoops, sorry15:10
shadeslayernp15:10
ScottKRiddell: Can we push kolab back again.  There's a spec I submitted next hour that I missed before.15:12
macoudslogger: do ever use the debugger in kdevelop?15:18
udsloggerI do not use kdevelop15:18
macoudslogger: and are you wearing mickey's hat from fantasia?15:18
udsloggerkdevelop == ui design fail15:18
udsloggeryes I am15:18
udslogger^^15:18
udsloggeralso it got lights built in :D15:18
macoso i guess i wait til after this session to ask agateau how to debug15:18
DarkwingDuckudslogger: where did you end up at?15:19
macoor i just ask you how to make the thing print to the terminal when i run it15:19
udsloggerDarkwingDuck: git4bzr users15:19
DarkwingDuckudslogger: Ah15:19
udsloggermaco: kDebug()15:19
macoi thought in c++ it was something like..   cout << "stuff to print";    or is it >> cout?  hrmph15:19
udsloggerunless it is Qt only15:19
udsloggerthen you go qDebug()15:19
RiddellScottK: push kolab back to when?15:19
macoum ok15:19
udsloggerboth are used like qDebug() << "hi there";15:19
udsloggermaco: please note that for qDebug you need to build in debug mode to get output15:20
ScottKRiddell: Good question.  I'll look into it.15:20
ScottKRiddell: How about 1500?15:21
udsloggershadeslayer, jussi, rbelem: I am going to get pic #3 then?15:23
shadeslayerno problem15:24
* shadeslayer just created a new gpg key15:24
rbelemudslogger, :-D15:24
udsloggerbtw, who has the pluto pic?15:25
shadeslayerudslogger: just the download is 15 USD?15:25
shadeslayerudslogger: me15:25
udsloggeryeah15:25
udsloggershadeslayer: can you ship me the pluto one15:26
shadeslayerudslogger: ill mail it to you, the cord is back in the room15:26
udsloggerdang15:26
udsloggercome to think of it, I am not sure about the data on my google card ^^15:27
shadeslayeri have a memory pro 2 stick, so if you can get a card reader15:28
shadeslayerScottK: im following this : http://ekaia.org/blog/2009/05/10/creating-new-gpgkey/ , do i need to 'Change Prefrences', 'Set Primary UID' and 'Add subkey for Encryption'15:29
shadeslayerwell.. the blog says skip the add subkey thing15:31
ScottKshadeslayer: I last made a new key in 2006.  How much do you imagine I recall about it?15:31
shadeslayerhahaha :P15:31
ScottKThe blog is likely to know more than I do about it.15:31
ScottKsubkeys can be added later.15:31
RiddellScottK: that's 20:00 in Scotland, I can check if that's ok with paul15:33
ScottKRiddell: Thanks.15:33
udsloggershadeslayer: http://aplg.kollide.net/images/avatar/snapshot86.png15:33
udsloggermore bugs15:33
shadeslayerhuh?15:33
udsloggeris that qtwebkit?15:35
udslogger"Your Disney Digital Download order has been received and is in process. You will be receiving an e-mail when your Photos are ready to be downloaded from your account. "15:37
CIA-96[trunk] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20101028144037-ub2usppvrxom7eae * src/DebugFinder.cpp Whitespace15:40
Riddell15:34 < padams> on a friday night after a long week.... very badly.... like i said.... if needs be, we can coordinate at a later time in #kolab or wherever15:42
Riddell15:35 < padams> this might not be a bad idea as it will grab more attention form the kolab.org community and not just kolab sys15:42
RiddellScottK: ^^15:42
CIA-96[trunk] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20101028144307-sh17dbw5brdeshv1 * src/DebugFinder.cpp compile++15:43
CIA-96[trunk] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20101028144315-j50j01boo1xi08ln * src/DebugInstaller.cpp (log message trimmed)15:44
CIA-96We don't need to initialize these in the constructor initializer. As a15:44
CIA-96non-pointer data type, the QStringLists were already initialized globally within15:44
ScottKRiddell: OK.  Maybe we should just have a session on wishlist to move forward and then we can coordinate later.  I know enough to write the wishlist.15:46
RiddellScottK: ok15:47
CIA-96[trunk] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20101028144804-37u22t9wpwg85qrl * src/ (DebugInstaller.cpp DebugInstaller.h) Oh, those were pointers to QStringLists. They really don't need to be, though. We can pass by reference easily enough to other functions, and otherwise we have to worry about deleting them manually.15:49
CIA-96[trunk] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20101028145639-spk4my5rrxvab3ch * src/ (DebugInstaller.cpp DebugInstaller.h main.cpp) Less heap action15:56
RiddellScottK: so move kolab server to 15:00 tomorrow?  (clashes with xorg requirements that you're subscribed to)15:58
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udsloggermgraesslin: http://blog.samat.org/2007/02/18/gpg-public-key-signing-post-party-automation-with-kmail16:37
udsloggershtylman: mgraesslin's laptop just made noise along his notification16:37
shtylman...16:39
macoudslogger: woo! i got the next dropdown filled properly16:44
macoRiddell: you have a mobile carrier in the uk called "3"?  16:45
udsloggeryay16:45
Riddellmaco: yes, Hutchison, they're made of money16:45
macoudslogger: turn around16:51
macoudslogger: spacer is there now :P16:52
macoudslogger: ithought matthias was you. whoops17:01
shadeslayerudslogger: http://pastebin.com/TLKgf4JV17:05
CIA-96[libqapt] gmartres * 1190699 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/includes/Config Add missing forward include17:11
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CIA-96[muon] gmartres * 1190700 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/ (6 files in 3 dirs) Use Solid::Networking to disable the "update" and "apply" buttons when the network is down17:13
shadeslayerudslogger: dude, its not installing man pages17:27
shadeslayerudslogger: http://pastebin.com/4NGBJSrB17:28
shtylmanRiddell: do you have a list of piratepads for kubuntu sessions?17:32
Riddellshtylman: in my browser history :)17:32
Riddellbut I've been pasting all the ones to the Proceedings pages17:33
Riddellhttps://wiki.kubuntu.org/UDSProceedings/N17:33
jjesseare those kubuntu specific or not?17:34
Riddellno17:34
Riddellbut most sessions haven't bothered to use them despite jono's pleading17:34
shtylmanRiddell: haha. .. k I will track down the kubuntu ones17:35
macoRiddell, udslogger: i think its done17:36
macooh wait. jussi pointed out i still need to do the country code --> country name mapping + flags for bonus points17:39
macook, all the *functional* *logicy* parts are done17:39
CIA-96[ubuntu] Alessandro Ghersi <alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org * alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org-20101028175949-wxjt0aghzcmif1dq * debian/changelog choqok (0.9.92-0ubuntu1) natty; urgency=low * New upstream release18:59
txwikingerSo we are a downstream project now?19:09
shtylmanheh19:09
shtylmantxwikinger: what do ya mean?19:09
shadeslayerhaha19:09
txwikingerthat was just said in the plenum19:10
shtylmanis that good or bad?19:10
txwikingerWell. if we are siblings, we should not be a downstream project19:11
shtylmanbut we aren't really siblings19:11
jjessemaybe step brothers?19:11
* txwikinger is just picking words19:11
shtylmanheh19:11
jjessesame mother different fathers (gnome vs. kde)19:12
jjessemother = cannonical19:12
shtylmanhaha19:12
\shhum?19:14
\shdownstream project?19:14
macoQComboBox::setCurrentIndex() is laughing at me right now :(((19:17
markeyudslogger: have you snuggled with Riddell yet?19:22
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Riddellhow does this read? http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/434619:30
jjessereads fine to me19:35
jjesselike the title19:36
jjessefreaked me out a bit :)19:36
shadeslayerRiddell: lol19:36
shadeslayerRiddell: i think one of the pics is added twice19:36
shadeslayerthe group photo thingy19:36
macoRiddell: s/patched/patches/19:37
Riddellmaco: ta, fixed19:38
Riddellmaco: someone wanted you19:39
Riddellor rather he wanted "someone who knows Washington DC"19:39
macoum ok? who?19:39
jjessebatman19:39
RiddellIndian chap19:39
Riddellname begins with V19:39
macoamit?19:39
macooh19:39
macoV? no idea19:39
shadeslayermaco: vish19:39
shadeslayerprobably19:40
macooh vish ok19:40
jjessemaco where abouts DC world do you live?  next week monday i'll be in beltsville MD, and tuesday/wednesday i'll be in roslyn area19:40
macoum whats he look like?19:40
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: http://blog.ratonred.com/2010/10/pardus-2011-beta-with-new-pm/19:40
macojjesse: i live in arlington, aboiut 2 miles from rosslyn19:40
shadeslayermaco: you told surbhi about me? :P19:40
macoshadeslayer: yes19:40
shadeslayer:)19:40
macogrrr19:41
macoRiddell:  where are you? can you look at this code and tell me why .setVisible(true) ISNT SETTING VISIBLE?19:41
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: dantti if either of you can implement that, i shall push for having muon/kpk on the CD :>19:41
shadeslayermaco: feel free to paste code, were not listening :P19:42
Riddellmaco: I'm in the talks19:43
Riddellmaco: if I stare at the tail in the wrong way without my glasses I can justabout see how it could be a greyhound, but not much19:46
shtylmanRiddell: are you going to the LightDM session?20:00
Riddellshtylman: no but rbelem should20:02
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shtylmank20:03
shtylmanI will as well20:03
shadeslayerScottK: dude.... sign my key :P20:03
shtylmanScottK: don't do it!20:03
shadeslayershtylman: notification: I shall strangle you20:03
shadeslayer:>20:04
shtylman-.-20:04
freeflyingRiddell, ping20:22
JontheEchidnaall the UDS sessions going on now are boring :(20:25
shtylmanhaha20:25
Riddellhi freeflying 20:27
freeflyingRiddell, are you in any session now?20:27
Riddellfreeflying: yes but nothing important20:27
Riddelljust a random gnome session I thought I'd gatecrash20:27
freeflyingRiddell, do you mind a conversation now? or some other time frame?20:28
Riddellfreeflying: now is fine20:28
ghostcubeo/20:29
freeflyingRiddell, which room are you in?20:29
Riddellantimony 320:29
Riddellare you at UDS?20:29
freeflyingRiddell, yes20:29
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udsloggermarkey: no, omg20:30
udsloggerRiddell: where are you? we need to snuggle...20:30
markeyudslogger: omg. I made some nice promotion for Kubuntu on the Podcast interview. but only after Riddell had promised to me to snuggle with you...20:31
markeyhe'd better keep his promise20:31
udsloggerhttp://aplg.kollide.net/tmp/21766940000.jpg20:31
markeyhah, you are starting to lose hair :) admit it, you have been using OpenSUSE secretly!20:31
\sh(harald + jonathan + mark) * snuggle == HELP !20:32
udsloggermarkey: secretly??? :O20:32
markeyyep20:32
markeyit does that to you20:32
markeylook at Coolo for the end result20:32
markey(just takes about a year more)20:32
CIA-96[muon] jmthomas * 1190749 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/libmuon/MuonMainWindow.cpp I noticed a few crashes when closing muon very quickly after opening it, when things are still loading. As a workaround, don't let the app closed until things are initialized.20:41
JontheEchidnashadeslayer: I do have this, but it doesn't do much more than display packages at the moment: http://imgur.com/kmUHo (install button don't do squat yet)20:44
CIA-96[muon] jmthomas * 1190752 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/OriginView.cpp Icon update20:48
JontheEchidnalol20:48
udslogger:D20:48
udsloggerhe asked for it20:48
JontheEchidnawhat'd he do?20:48
udsloggerhe wanted me kicked20:48
JontheEchidnathe horror!20:48
udsloggerJontheEchidna: it says like one ;)20:50
JontheEchidnaI really just threw that model/view together after I got the delegate working20:51
udsloggerJontheEchidna: it says like one ;) ;)20:51
udsloggerjussi: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!20:53
udsloggerjussi: hello hello20:53
udsloggerjussi: hello!!!20:54
udsloggerjussi: http://aplg.kollide.net/tmp/21766940000.jpg20:54
udsloggerjussi: hey20:54
udsloggerjussi: dude!20:54
udsloggerjussi: geezer!20:54
udsloggerjussi: ....20:54
udsloggerjussi: HELLO20:54
udsloggerJUSSI!20:54
macoudslogger: i put in kDebug()'s and it thinks its unchecking20:58
udsloggerjust use a proper solution !!!!!!!!!!20:58
udsloggerjussi: hello!!!!20:58
udsloggerjussi: hai!20:58
udsloggerjussi: you there...20:58
udsloggeroh cmon20:59
udsloggerjussi: HALLO~!O!O!Igth][20:59
udsloggerjussi: you cannot just kick me20:59
udsloggeryou need to tell me why 20:59
udsloggerand warn me20:59
udslogger!!!120:59
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about 120:59
udsloggerI will complain to the IDC board!20:59
udsloggerthis is outrages21:00
udslogger...21:00
\shudslogger: how many drinks? ;)21:00
udslogger\sh: none21:00
\shudslogger: unglaublich21:01
shadeslayerudslogger: :|21:01
udslogger\sh: yeah ^^21:01
\shudslogger: but you are in the states...a lot of koks on the dollar bills ;)21:01
shtylman\sh: btw.. thank you for the recommendation of puppet last UDS. .. we have been using it with great success21:03
\shshtylman: no problem...we do have fun with puppet too :) right now working on multi instance tomcat6 stuff :)21:04
sheytanudslogger is that a qt tatoo? :D21:17
shadeslayersheytan: yeah21:18
sheytanCool :D21:18
shadeslayerQt on neck21:18
shadeslayeryeah they have a whole stack21:18
sheytani thought about getting one with kubuntu logo ;D21:18
Riddellhi sheytan, some of the artwork we'd like done this cycle include wiki theme, cdimage page theme, installer slideshow and cd covers.  are you interested in helping with any of that?21:25
sheytanRiddell i'm interested in all of that :D The problem is i can't promisse i will do all. I don't know how much time will i have :)21:32
sheytanam looking for a payd job. Need to live :D21:32
shtylmanRiddell: should probly prioritize that list some21:32
Riddellof course that's the same for everyone21:32
shtylmansheytan: ;)21:33
macoRiddell: 'cept you. you get paid to work on foss21:33
shtylmanevery time someone says foss I think of floss21:33
sheytanRiddell a dream job would be to create artwok and get payed. I even looked at such but they want all that adobe stuff, flash and things ;//21:33
Riddellshtylman: foss and floss are both messy acronyms for the same thing21:34
sheytanRiddell what is all that about "dropping kde desktop" thing? :D21:34
shtylmanhaha21:34
sheytando yout want plasma-netbook as default?!21:34
shtylmanplasma netbook sucks21:34
sheytanyeah, a bit21:35
shtylmana big bit :)21:35
sheytanRiddell could you explain? :D21:35
Riddellsheytan: KDE branding has changed.  the desktop is now called Plasma, KDE is the team of people who make Plasma (and 100 other software projects)21:36
sheytanRiddell uff, i was afraid you want to develop new desktop shell :D21:37
RiddellI did add a note at the bottom of my blog to explain that, maybe not everyone has read to the end :)21:37
sheytanoh yeah, it's there :D21:38
sheytanRiddell lots of informations from the wiki we include on the new web page. I think this is a way better way to get informations for new users as well as new developers21:40
sheytanso we can simplify the wiki when creating a new theme ;)21:41
Riddellsheytan: "the new web page" is the new design you've been working on?21:42
sheytanRiddell yes. We already have lots code done (ofirk did this job). Now he's busy on the uni21:43
sheytanso we have a little pause 21:43
Riddellsheytan: what still needs done?21:43
sheytanbut i'm almost done. The text only needs review if it's all correct. I'll ask my friend to do this ;)21:44
sheytanRiddell are you on dropbox?21:44
Riddellnope21:44
sheytanRiddell http://pastebin.com/PZWKybUE21:45
sheytanWhat's besides this left are the video manuals and pdf manuals.21:45
sheytanthe video will be done by me with some text stuff. I've got a dude from Poland helping me with this :D21:45
Riddellsheytan: we have a docs session tomorrow21:46
Riddellthere's probably overlap there21:46
sheytanRiddell well, all we need for users are manuals. Devs have techbase.kde.org :D21:46
sheytanon the page with have info about kubuntu irc channels21:46
sheytanmailing lists21:46
sheytanall that stuff21:46
sheytanwe even have developers blog list :D21:47
sheytanand we're planing to add a microbloggin stuff into the page. let me show you :D21:47
sheytanRiddell http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/6246/communityblogsmicroblog.jpg :D21:48
sheytanwith some desktop feeling :D21:49
sheytani will ask ofir to write a mechanism that will allow new users or developers to request to add their blogs or feeds to the page21:49
Riddellsheytan: interesting21:50
Riddellsheytan: on the artwork, I'd really like to see it include elements from the KDE artwork21:50
macoagateau: you win! a few .blockSignals() sprinkled around fixes it21:50
Riddellwe had lots of comments on the current design that this was appreciated21:50
agateaumaco: great!21:51
Riddellthe circles or other elements from KDE wallpapers21:51
macooh wait.. well it got closer21:51
sheytanRiddell, yeah. Let me show you something :D21:51
sheytanRiddell it is hard to implement a theme from a wall. It changes ;)21:52
sheytanBut the cricles yes, this is a good idea :)21:52
Riddelldoesn't have to be the full wallpaper (it's a website not a wallpaper we want), just something that links it into the KDE artwork21:53
sheytanRiddell http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/5245/mockupr.jpg21:53
sheytanwe have almost every thing about kubuntu :D21:53
sheytanThis page will really interest people with content21:54
Riddellah hah, a description of activities!21:54
RiddellI always wondered what those were21:54
sheytanyou see? :D21:55
sheytaneven a hard dev can find info there :D21:55
sheytanRiddell and this will be our support page http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/6510/support2ne.jpg :D21:58
macoagateau: ok /now/ i got it.. was missing 1 check in one of those if's22:01
Riddellsheytan: what are you doing tomorrow at 12:00 Florida time?22:01
sheytanRiddell what time will be in Poland? :D22:02
sheytani hate all this time mess :D22:02
Riddellsheytan: 18:0022:04
sheytanRiddell i should be at home ;)22:04
sheytanhave something todo in the city on the morning, t hen i have free :)22:05
Riddellsheytan: join us for the session in #ubuntu-uds-antigua2 and audio stream http://uds.ubuntu.com/participate/remote/22:05
macoa Qt guy was just sitting next to me going "you should be using QtCreator!"22:05
sheytanRiddell i will :)22:07
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nixternalmaco: does qtcreator do python yet? I swore I just read that somewhere22:10
Riddellnixternal: I don't think so22:12
Riddellmaybe you read qt designer?22:12
RiddellScottK: ping22:13
Riddellrbelem: are you in the light dm session?22:13
nixternalRiddell: yeah, maybe it was designer. i was gonna say, i use qtcreator 2.0.1 and haven't seen python love in it yet22:14
rbelemRiddell, yup :-)22:15
Riddellgroovy22:16
JontheEchidnawhoa, almost forgot about this session22:16
Riddelludslogger, maco, shadeslayer, valorie: have you all blogged yet?22:16
JontheEchidna(l10n)22:16
Riddellshadeslayer doesn't even have a blog, what decade does he live in?22:16
rbelemRiddell, mine are rbelem.info and rbelem.blogspot.com :-)22:19
rbelemi'm planning move everything from rbelem.blogspot.com to rbelem.info22:19
sheytanrbelem hey, are you a dev or just a user? :D22:20
sheytanrbelem and i understand that you write about kubuntu, too? :)22:21
udsloggersheytan: yes I have a cute neck22:21
shadeslayer:P22:21
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rbelemsheytan, i need to blog more :-(22:23
sheytanrbelem if you do, we will include you in 'community blogs' in the new shiny web page of Kubuntu :)22:23
rbelemcool :-D22:23
sheytanrbelem but as a dev or a user? :)22:23
rbelemas a dev22:24
sheytanrbelem, sure, welcome there :D22:24
sheytanok guys. /me needs some sleep22:25
sheytanbye all :)22:25
rbelemthanks sheytan :-D22:25
sheytanwelcome :)22:25
rbelembye22:25
rbelemhave sweet dreams22:25
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: http://pastebin.com/v0aQqcpt << whats wrong with that?22:27
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CIA-96[muon] jmthomas * 1190783 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ (Application.cpp Application.h) Store the raw .desktop file data as a QByteArray. This reduces RAM usage by ~1.1 MiB, and makes both startup and scrolling of the installer view faster.22:41
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danttishadeslayer: what's up with the link? What you want is the Application rating?22:55
shadeslayerthat and the whole list of stuff you can see22:55
shadeslayerthe dark effect and stuff22:55
macoRiddell: blogged what?22:56
Riddellmaco: about UDS!22:56
macooh. umm...no22:56
danttishadeslayer: well < 0.6.1 the list was pretty similar, but ends up it seems better to use as a standard list22:56
macoi dont think ive ever blogged about uds...22:56
danttishadeslayer: for the app rating it is planned for 0.6.3 but it relies on app-install having that info22:56
shadeslayerdantti: cant you pull that from popcon ?22:57
danttishadeslayer: I can but I need a way to be more cross distro 22:57
shadeslayerdantti: popcon.foo.bar ?22:57
shadeslayeror does suse not have popcon ?22:57
danttishadeslayer: afaik not all have this data that's why these data need to be in app-install db22:58
danttithis way when fedora get's app-install suport it will work out of the box22:58
danttithe weird part is that Kubuntu users of KPK 0.6.2 love it, and Fedora users want the 0.6.1 UI back :P22:59
danttiabout that dark effect I'm no big fan of that, since what I want for newer releases is to reduce the number of dialogs23:01
danttiand that effect you get for free with modal dialogs23:01
danttiimo what would be great is a screenshot.ubuntu.com with support for more screenshots per app23:02
danttithe problem with using debian is that debian stable doesn't look like ubuntu apps23:02
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