[01:29] <linuxman410> lubuntu keeps crashing every time i try to install it
[01:35] <MonthOLDpickle> crashing as in screen goes blank and computer beeps or
[01:35] <MonthOLDpickle> it sits there not moving torwards the end?
[01:35] <MonthOLDpickle> linuxman410:
[01:36] <MonthOLDpickle> if its just sits there at the end saying intsalling or w/e with a tip screen thats kpg or something it doesn't show progress and may take a loonnngggg timmmeee.
[01:36] <MonthOLDpickle> anyways bbl
[01:36] <linuxman410> no crashes as i try to install the installer crashes
[01:38] <linuxman410> it crashes and will not let me install
[01:39] <phillw> linuxman410: what is the spec of the computer you are trying to install on
[01:40] <phillw> linuxman410: and, also have you checked the cd has burned cleanly?
[01:40] <linuxman410> it is a atom processor 1.6 dualcore with 1 gig of ram and 80 gig sata drive
[01:41] <phillw> linuxman410: are you using 10.10 Lubuntu?
[01:41] <linuxman410> yes
[01:42] <phillw> have you used the self check on the CD ?
[01:42] <linuxman410> i am installing from thumb drive computer has no cdrom
[01:43] <phillw> linuxman410: you still have that option to check it
[01:43] <linuxman410> i will check it
[01:44] <phillw> I suspect that it is a corrupt download
[01:44] <phillw> check the iso file out
[01:48] <phillw> linuxman410: http://go2.wordpress.com/?id=725X1342&site=gilir.wordpress.com&url=http%3A%2F%2Fpeople.ubuntu.com%2F~gilir%2Fmd5sum.txt&sref=http%3A%2F%2Fgilir.wordpress.com%2F2010%2F10%2F10%2Flubuntu-10-10-is-released%2F
[01:49] <phillw> linuxman410: sorry, an quicker link is http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/md5sum.txt
[02:02] <linuxman410> phillw completey checked disk an iso nothing wrong with it
[02:06] <mlsmith> Hey guys
[02:08] <mlsmith> Did anybody notice that in the installer it shows the 'e' (Elementary) logo instead of the Lubuntu logo?
[02:10] <phillw> linuxman410: I'm puzzled, as I've seen it flagged up before. The only thing I can really suggest is re-burn the memory stick.
[02:10] <phillw> *I've never seen it flagged up before*
[02:10] <linuxman410> ok will try
[02:11] <mlsmith> It's no big deal...i knew what i was really installing :-)
[02:11] <mlsmith> I just happen to notice little details like that
[02:12] <phillw> mlsmith: drop it onto the mailing list via https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/GettingInvolved you good people are our eyes and ears for Lubuntu
[02:14] <mlsmith> phillw, will do. Thanks for the suggestion.
[02:24] <mlsmith> phillw, I only see the LXDE developers mailing list on the url you provided me. Is that that one you were referring too?
[02:26] <phillw> mlsmith: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop
[02:33] <mlsmith> phillw, thank you...I figured it out just as you sent that. I was expecting to see a Mailman mailing list
[02:33] <mlsmith> It didn't initially occur to me that it was through Launchpad
[03:43] <MonthOLDpickle> tacos were goooood!
[07:02] <donnie> Hi Guys i am downloading Lubuntu as of now. I wanted to know if i can use all the softwares that i use with Ubuntu.
[07:03] <bioterror> you can
[07:03] <bioterror> it's your choise to use gnome-related softwares ;)
[07:04] <donnie> great
[07:04] <donnie> What about looks?
[07:04] <bioterror> mine looks damn good without gnome
[07:04] <donnie> I don't like the default lxde looks.
[07:05] <bioterror> http://ubuntuforums.org/picture.php?albumid=2074&pictureid=6908
[07:05] <bioterror> u dont like it? :(
[07:06] <bioterror> wish I could use it all day along!
[07:06] <donnie> Yeah i have been a gnome user for couple of years and lately Ubuntu getting beautiful day by day
[07:07] <bioterror> I really have to disagree
[07:08] <donnie> Lubuntu is less resource intensive should i expect less heating problems.
[07:08] <bioterror> but I've seen FVWM2 and IceWM from the beginning
[07:09] <donnie> i will find out in couple of minutes.
[07:41] <bioterror> he got lost in the world of lubuntu! ;D
[09:13] <donnie> just intalled Lubuntu but can't connect to wifi
[09:14] <bioterror> how so
[09:14] <bioterror> can you see the wireless interface?
[09:16] <donnie> yeah
[09:16] <donnie> initially the card was disabled
[09:16] <donnie> i installed restricted driver
[09:16] <donnie> i can detect wireless but i can't connect to mine
[09:16] <donnie> i have broadcomm wifi card
[09:16] <bioterror> oh
[09:17] <bioterror> just a moment
[09:17] <donnie> ok
[09:18] <bioterror> can you say the model of your laptop and the manufacturer
[09:19] <donnie> Dell Inspiron 6400/E1505
[09:19] <donnie> thanks
[09:20] <donnie> *-network
[09:20] <donnie>        description: Ethernet interface
[09:20] <donnie>        product: BCM4401-B0 100Base-TX
[09:20] <donnie>        vendor: Broadcom Corporation
[09:20] <bioterror> oh, new dell
[09:20] <bioterror> broadcom firmwares are not opensource or something like that, and that's why they're not inculuded in basic installation
[09:21] <donnie> wlan0     Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:1b:fc:10:e7:03
[09:21] <donnie>           inet6 addr: fe80::21b:fcff:fe10:e703/64 Scope:Link
[09:21] <donnie>           UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[09:21] <donnie>           RX packets:6 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[09:21] <donnie>           TX packets:23 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[09:21] <donnie>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
[09:21] <donnie>           RX bytes:1126 (1.1 KB)  TX bytes:2840 (2.8 KB)
[09:21] <bioterror> can you say "ifconfig wlan0 up"
[09:21] <bioterror> sudo ifconfig...
[09:21] <donnie> yeah that is why i installed resricted drivers
[09:21] <bioterror> oh yeah
[09:39] <bioterror> oho, FIN!
[09:40] <bioterror> porvoon suunnalta ;)
[09:40] <FIN-joppi> joo
[09:41] <bioterror> toimiiko lubuntu ongelmitta, vai onko ongelmia ilmennyt?
[09:41] <FIN-joppi> ihan hyvin pelittää
[09:41] <bioterror> no loisto homma
[09:41] <FIN-joppi> tulin kyselemään vähän neuvoja
[09:42] <FIN-joppi> onko asiantuntemusta?:D
[09:42] <bioterror> voi ollakki, pistä tulemaan
[09:42] <bioterror> laitetaan vaikka englanniksi
[09:42] <bioterror> ;)
[09:42] <FIN-joppi> selevä
[09:43] <FIN-joppi> ok, the problem is that cpu mode is "ondemand" and i like to change it to "powersave" mode or adjust clockspeed manually, how can i do this
[09:46] <bioterror> I think gnome-power-manger does it by itself
[09:46] <FIN-joppi> the reason to do this is because my laptop fan is like helicopter when it turns on :)
[09:47] <FIN-joppi> yep it changes the frequency automatically.. but i like to manual adjust...
[09:48] <bioterror> Cpufreq (EEE-PC 4G only)
[09:49] <bioterror> After a fresh install of Mandriva the EEE-PC CPU will run at 900MHz. You can decrease this in /etc/sysconfig/cpufreq:
[09:49] <bioterror> GOVERNOR=ondemand
[09:49] <bioterror> MIN_FREQ=450000
[09:49] <bioterror> MAX_FREQ=675000
[09:49] <bioterror> cpufreqd - fully configurable daemon for dynamic frequency and voltage scaling
[09:49] <bioterror> cpufrequtils - utilities to deal with the cpufreq Linux kernel feature
[09:51] <FIN-joppi> ok i got it work now
[09:51] <bioterror> nice
[09:52] <bioterror> my dell d420 is so quiet when the fan is blowing ;)
[09:59] <FIN-joppi> pretty fast this lubuntu, much faster than ubu..
[09:59] <bioterror> yeah, and still looks damn good ;)
[10:00] <FIN-joppi> yep
[10:00] <hyperair> bioterror, FIN-joppi: there was some research done which said that ondemand is better for power consumption than powersave is.
[10:01] <bioterror> yeah, same thing with my car ;)
[10:01] <hyperair> O_o
[10:01] <bioterror> when I'm gathering 80km/h speed, I use my turbo charger ;)
[10:01] <hyperair> =_="
[10:01] <bioterror> with 2nd gear ;)
[10:01] <hyperair> no seriously
[10:02] <bioterror> it eats less gas than driving slow
[10:02] <hyperair> the reason ondemand is supposed to be better than powersave is because ondemand bumps the CPU freq up higher faster, allowing tasks to finish faster, allowing the CPU to go back into one of the deep sleep modes
[10:07] <FIN-joppi> hmm.. do you know how can i make laptop sleep, when lets say 10 minutes idle..
[10:08] <bioterror> that should be edited from the battery icon in your systemtray ;)
[10:08] <FIN-joppi> do not have it :D
[10:08] <bioterror> take off the power cord
[10:08] <bioterror> unplug it
[10:08] <bioterror> :D
[10:09] <FIN-joppi> ive got no battery
[10:09] <FIN-joppi> its dead
[10:09] <bioterror> oh
[10:09] <bioterror> :D
[10:09] <bioterror> then we should sugget that the icon is always visible
[10:09] <bioterror> :D
[10:10] <FIN-joppi> yep
[10:15] <FIN-joppi> thanks to you all.. time to eat :) -->
[11:57] <eexeZ> hi
[11:57] <eexeZ> how install nvidia driver (nvidia 7900GS) on lubuntu ?
[12:40] <jingjang> hi, how can i install OOo_3.2.1_Linux_x86_install-deb_en-US.tar.gz (download from openoffice.org) ? (i'm running Lubuntu of course :) thanks
[12:40] <bioterror> jingjang, use apt-get
[12:41] <bioterror> jingjang, in terminal "sudo apt-get install openof<press tab key>
[12:41] <bioterror> ;)
[12:41] <jingjang> bioterror: yeah but  i dont know what name of openoffice its
[12:41] <jingjang> ok i got it
[12:41] <bioterror> ;)
[12:41] <bioterror> openoffice.org
[12:41] <bioterror> that's the packet name
[12:42] <jingjang> it work, thanks man
[12:42] <bioterror> np
[12:42] <bioterror> it's suggested to use your own repository
[12:42] <bioterror> and not just any deb file from the internet, becouse it doesnt mess up your dependencies
[12:42] <jingjang> i've download OOo_3.2.1_Linux_x86_install-deb_en-US.tar.gz from openoffice.org, is there a way to install from it ?
[12:42] <jingjang> ok
[12:49] <bioterror> Version: 1:3.2.0-7ubuntu4.1
[12:49] <bioterror> that's in my 10.04
[12:50] <bioterror> it's not 3.2.1, but it's damn close and I dont have to do anything else than say "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org"
[12:56] <jingjang> install process is done, and openoffice now running perfectly
[12:56] <bioterror> yeah, it's easy like a sunday morning ,)
[13:04] <bioterror> jingjang, remember to remove abiword and other stuff that you dont need anymore )
[13:09] <jingjang> i use: apt-get remove abiword
[13:10] <jingjang> facebook is blocked in my country :(
[13:10] <bioterror> really
[13:10] <jingjang> ya,
[13:11] <jingjang> in vietnam, they block facebook
[13:11] <bioterror> usa didnt liberate your country after all then ;)
[13:11] <bioterror> well, I can tell you something
[13:11] <bioterror> you dont miss much
[13:12] <bioterror> http://www.globalnerdy.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/future-man.jpg
[13:12] <bioterror> check that one ;)
[13:15] <jingjang> lol
[13:19] <jingjang> they blocked facebook because human rights here is poor
[13:43] <bioterror> hi gilri
[13:43] <bioterror> gilir
[13:43] <bioterror> any news from the uds?-)
[13:45] <gilir> hi bioterror
[13:45] <gilir> bioterror: I'll do a summarize after the uds
[13:46] <bioterror> wish I could enjoy that nice warm weather at Orlando ;)
[13:52] <gilir> it's currenly very hot, and the air is very wet, and it's only 9 AM :/
[13:52] <bioterror> oh
[13:52] <bioterror> you're going to sweat :D
[13:53] <gilir> hopefully, we have air conditionning :p
[13:56] <jingjang> lubuntu doen't allow me to change desktop background color (only allow me to change background image) i need to set my bg to black
[13:57] <jingjang> lubuntu 10.10
[13:57] <jingjang> i've check it in Desktop preferences
[13:58] <jingjang> ah, ok now
[14:03] <bioterror> :D
[14:03] <bioterror> I see a desktop and I want it painted black
[14:04] <jingjang> black color is good coz its save me power good for eyes... so i set all my pc, handhell to black theme
[14:05] <bioterror> you have CRT monitor?
[14:05] <jingjang> both, crt and lcd
[14:05] <bioterror> white screen uses more power on CRT's
[14:05] <bioterror> with LCD it does not mater
[14:06] <jingjang> good to know
[14:08] <jingjang> ibus-unikey
[14:08] <jingjang> flashplayer
[14:08] <jingjang> vlc
[14:08] <jingjang> firefox
[14:08] <jingjang> openoffice
[14:08] <jingjang> wine
[14:08] <jingjang> 7zip
[14:08] <jingjang> media codec
[14:08] <jingjang> ihave to install all of them each time install new linux system
[14:08] <jingjang> all is done
[14:09] <bioterror> well
[14:09] <bioterror> when you get your system ready
[14:09] <bioterror> you can use clonezilla to make an image of it ,)
[14:10] <bioterror> http://clonezilla.org/
[14:10] <jingjang> thanks, i'm searching it on google :)
[14:10] <jingjang> good to know, new disc clone software
[14:11] <jingjang> but linux upgrade it 6month each time
[14:11] <jingjang> i'm reinstall each 6month, and you ?
[14:11] <bioterror> depends
[14:36] <mmaksimov> Hi. What's the "official" taskmanager in Lubuntu 10.10? I have one freshly installed system and one upgraded from 10.04, and they use different ones.... lxtask for a fresh system and xfce4-taskmanager for an upgraded AFAIR.....
[14:57] <bioterror> i prefer htop in terminal
[14:57] <bioterror> better than gui
[15:13] <mmaksimov> bioterror, but there still _is_ a graphical taskamanger included in Lubuntu, and if upgraded and fresh installs differ there may be a bug somewhere :)
[15:13] <bioterror> well
[16:17] <johnny77> I just installed Lubuntu and can't figure out how to edit touchpad settings. Also menu editing would be helpful.
[16:27] <bioterror> johnny77, what's missing from your menu?
[16:30] <johnny77> bioterror: Hey, I think it is because I have Ubuntu, K, X and L installed. The menu has gotten kind of wonky. Just want to clean up.
[16:30] <johnny77> bioterror: Any ideas on the touchpad/mouse properties?
[16:31] <bioterror> hmmm
[16:31] <bioterror> sorry, I gotta go to another room
[16:31] <bioterror> bbl
[16:33] <nk_> can some one help me acess windows7 or point me to something to read?
[16:34] <nk_> :)
[16:49] <nk_> søren klype
[17:07] <nk_> can some one help me acess windows7 or point me to something to read?
[17:33] <johnny77> Anyone know how to edit the menu?
[17:34] <friTTe|> i use to download alacarte from Synaptic manager
[17:34] <friTTe|> for the menu editing, might grab some other dependencies but nothing that have any effect on the system as far as i know
[17:35] <johnny77> friTTe|: It doesn't seem that alacarte has any affect on the Lubuntu menu.
[17:35] <friTTe|> hmm i use it on my computers
[17:36] <friTTe|> drag and drop items from Internet to Office and stuff like that?
[17:36] <friTTe|> i might have misunderstood you
[17:38] <johnny77> I've installed Lubuntu from within Ubuntu. If that makes a difference.
[17:38] <friTTe|> hm ok
[17:38] <friTTe|> well i have clean installs, but that should work anyway
[17:38] <friTTe|> but im not sure
[17:38] <johnny77> If I understand correctly alacarte controls the application menu in Ubuntu. It doesn't seem to affect Lubuntu.
[17:39] <friTTe|> hmm ok
[17:39] <friTTe|> i use that one for my menu editing, easy to use gui
[17:39] <friTTe|> but if you went from Ubu to Lubu im not sure
[17:39] <friTTe|> tbh
[17:40] <friTTe|> But yeah that one is gnome
[17:40] <johnny77> Would you know how to edit touchpad settings?
[17:42] <friTTe|> what do you wanna edit
[17:43] <friTTe|> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1457053
[17:43] <friTTe|> thast one for disabling tap to click
[17:47] <johnny77> friTTe|: Thank you. The tap to click has been fixed.
[17:48] <friTTe|> good =) no problems
[17:48] <friTTe|> glad i could be of help
[17:49] <johnny77> friTTe|: I think I just stumbled onto the menu edit.
[17:49] <friTTe|> hehe ok
[17:59] <friTTe|> johnny77,  how do you like the Lubu experience this far then?
[17:59] <friTTe|> i got it on diff machines, even my maindesktop..and that one got pretty much RAM, but the speed is awesome
[18:01] <friTTe|> the minimalism is lovely, tired of Compiz and cubes and stuff =D
[18:01] <johnny77> friTTe|: It's not too bad. I like the simple feel for it, but want to make sure it will give me the options I need.
[18:01] <friTTe|> yeah
[18:02] <friTTe|> you can get most options,
[18:02] <MonthOLDpickle> talking about lubuntu right
[18:02] <friTTe|> yeah
[18:02] <friTTe|> only thing i have changed is added a conky and moved the menubar to the top and added another at the bottom
[18:02] <MonthOLDpickle> Yea I love it except for bluetooth is funky =p
[18:02] <friTTe|> hehe
[18:02] <friTTe|> i havent tried that one tbh
[18:03] <friTTe|> hmm i lied...i have tried and couldnt get the pairing work with my X10
[18:03] <friTTe|> =)
[18:03] <friTTe|> but thats no biggie
[18:06] <johnny77> Well, sorry guys. It looks like it is not allowing me to run one of my programs. I was able to run it in gnome with sh freeplane.sh, but now it's not working.
[18:07] <bioterror> it's not up to lubuntu
[18:07] <friTTe|> sorry to hear
[18:07] <bioterror> what does it say?
[18:07] <johnny77> hold on let me try again.
[18:07] <mark76> Hey bioterror
[18:07] <bioterror> hey mark
[18:08] <mark76> I've just been surveyed by MORI
[18:09] <johnny77> bioterror: Your magic.
[18:09] <friTTe|> =)
[18:09] <friTTe|> johnny77,  did it work now :)
[18:33] <johnny77> is there a way to change the terminal background?
[18:33] <bioterror> for what
[18:34] <johnny77> the blue cloud background in the terminal makes it hard to read the words. Can I change it?
[18:34] <bioterror> what? :D
[18:35] <bioterror> xterm -bg black -fg grey +sb -fn fixed
[18:35] <bioterror> ;)
[18:35] <bioterror> I dont know which terminal you're using
[18:36] <johnny77> it's the lxterminal
[18:36] <bioterror> well
[18:36] <bioterror> have you checked the preferences?
[18:38] <mark76> How long has lxterminal had a blue cloud background by default? :/
[18:39] <bioterror> I'm running 10.10 and I dont have
[18:39] <bioterror> and I have not configured my lxterminal
[18:39] <bioterror> dunno about these mix-up-lubuntus
[18:40] <bioterror> when people are running Ubuntu with kubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-desktop and lubuntu-desktop on same platform
[18:40] <mark76> I'm running KDE, Gnome and LXDE.
[18:40] <mark76> Plus one other
[18:40] <mark76> Oh... And Xfce
[18:41] <bioterror> I've always said apt-get remove --purge kde\* and gnome\* if I'n trying something other
[18:41] <MonthOLDpickle> no openbox
[18:41] <mark76> LXDEE
[18:41] <mark76> LXDE
[18:41] <bioterror> LXDE sounds like a synthetic drug
[18:41] <mark76> It's what you're using right now
[18:41] <mark76> Unless you aren't
[18:42] <johnny77> mark76: You sound like me. I've got all four installed to see which I like better.
[18:43] <mark76> I have five plus PekWM :D
[18:43] <bioterror> oh you boys
[18:43] <mark76> I'd install GNUStep/Windowmaker as well if it still worked
[18:44] <bioterror> are you dating 5 girls at the time, so that you know which one is best? :D
[18:44] <bioterror> mark!
[18:44] <bioterror> http://ricecows.org/wmaker.png
[18:44] <bioterror> running on lubuntu
[18:45] <mark76> No :p
[18:45] <bioterror> oh yes!
[18:45] <bioterror> works like a dream
[18:45] <mark76> It's the GNUStep components that don't work
[18:46] <johnny77> bioterror: do you have only Lubuntu?
[18:46] <bioterror> johnny77, on this laptop yes
[18:46] <bioterror> I have only one wife
[18:46] <bioterror> :D
[18:46] <bioterror> one computer, one os
[18:46] <bioterror> I also have two bikes with only one gear ;)
[18:46] <bioterror> mark76, http://repo.or.cz/w/wmaker-crm.git if you're interested
[18:47] <johnny77> bioterror: Why do you like Lubuntu versus the others?
[18:47] <bioterror> different purposes
[18:47] <bioterror> but I happen to run Linux Mint on my desktop machine
[18:47] <bioterror> which has more cpu and RAM to waste on Gnome
[18:48] <bioterror> but I like lubuntu on laptop
[18:48] <bioterror> it's just fast
[18:48] <bioterror> and looks good by default
[18:48] <bioterror> and that new default ubuntu, it's so fcuked up
[18:49] <bioterror> why they had to move close,min,max buttons to the left side of the tittlebar
[18:49] <bioterror> why it's so daaaamn dark
[18:49] <johnny77> bioterror: do you know how to edit the Lubuntu menu?
[18:49] <bioterror> depends
[18:50] <bioterror> it's handle with .desktop -file
[18:50] <bioterror> it's handle with .desktop -files
[18:50] <bioterror> handled
[20:11] <pizux> yop hello
[20:11] <pizux> is someone could test my script ?
[20:12] <pizux> to create pcmafm to /dir desktop file
[20:12] <pizux> it works with zenity
[20:13] <pizux> http://pastebin.com/CA80A2AX
[21:36] <sam__> hey to all of you  it is kurdistan from a friends laptop
[21:36] <sam__> :) he finally moved from xp to lubuntu
[21:38] <phillw> sam__: welcome :D
[21:39] <sam__> he is a happy :) dude
[21:39] <bioterror> haha, nice move! ;D
[21:40] <sam__> yeah really nice move
[21:40] <sam__> his computer is like light compare to old durty xp
[21:40] <sam__> and it was really durty
[21:40] <sam__> :P
[23:39] <llogiq> Good evening, folks.
[23:41] <llogiq> I think I found out why the brightness hotkeys on my netbook do not work. gnome-power-manager is calling a /usr/sbin/gnome-power-backlight-helper which isn't there.
[23:42] <llogiq> So I don't even need to configure openbox, I just need to somehow get or write this helper.
[23:43] <llogiq> It does not appear to be in any package.
[23:52]  * llogiq is going to file a bug report.
[23:52] <llogiq> :-)
[23:55] <llogiq> cu folks. g'night.